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C-flat 13 Apr 02 - 05:03 AM
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fat B****rd 13 Apr 02 - 02:47 PM
C-flat 13 Apr 02 - 03:17 PM
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greg stephens 13 Apr 02 - 05:45 PM
C-flat 14 Apr 02 - 04:06 AM
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Subject: Django fans click here
From: C-flat
Date: 13 Apr 02 - 05:03 AM

A new Stephane Grappelli film "A life in the Jazz century" has just been released and features all known footage of Django Reinhardt including 7 minutes of new and unseen footage of "The Hot Club Quintet of France". Other contributions come from Martin Taylor, Yehudi Menuhin, Jo Venuti & Eddie Lang, Nigel Kennedy and others. For more info. look at www.musiconearth.co.uk Sorry, can't make blue clickies!


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From: 8_Pints
Date: 13 Apr 02 - 09:02 AM

Blue Clicky try this URL .

Bob vG


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From: Mr Red
Date: 13 Apr 02 - 12:53 PM

Has it got the any music of Django playing with the Glen Miller Orchestra? I bought into that and got the LP when it became available in the 70's and it turned out to "members of" (Ray McKinley? +) and it was of course the AEF orchestra. Had dozens, with & without SG. Lost em all in the move from UK to NZ to UK.
I guess I am a fan!
The curious thing is I was into Jazz at the time and a girlfriend bought the record but it described him as Folk & Gyspy not jazz!
It was another girlfriend who introduced me to folk clubs!


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Subject: RE: Django fans click here
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 13 Apr 02 - 01:28 PM

Thanks for the info C flat. Really appreciated.

Rick


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From: fat B****rd
Date: 13 Apr 02 - 02:47 PM

A real treat !!. Sad to note that Django's son passed away recently.


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From: C-flat
Date: 13 Apr 02 - 03:17 PM

Mr.Red; according to the site there is footage of Django with Ellington's big-band. I wasn't aware of any collaboration with Miller but I would be interested to find out more. Reinhardt never seemed to make it work with the American big-band scene, probably too much of an individual improvisor, nor could he make the transition to the electric jazz guitar successfully. That said, he could probably have got more out of an elastic band than I can with my modern, precision-built guitar and full compliment of fingers!


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From: GUEST,MCP
Date: 13 Apr 02 - 05:36 PM

There is a short (ca 1min) Quicktime video of Django playing available on the net. It's linked from several of the Django sites including this one.

Mick


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From: greg stephens
Date: 13 Apr 02 - 05:45 PM

Why cant anybody play like Django and Eddie Lang anymore? It's very upsetting to me, as I basically believe in progress.


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Subject: RE: Django fans click here
From: C-flat
Date: 14 Apr 02 - 04:06 AM

The only other person I've heard is a guy I've mentioned here recently, Stockolo Rosenberg. I have a tape of the Rosenberg Trio and this fella's playing is devastatingly good! Other great players have tried and failed, Martin Taylor, a tremendously gifted jazzer, was given the opportunity to duet with Grappelli and released a C.D. "The Spirit Of Django". After their time together Grappelli was asked what he thought of Taylor. "Well he's no Django Reinhardt" came the reply!


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From: C-flat
Date: 14 Apr 02 - 04:13 AM

Bye the way, Rosenberg is another gypsy, from a family of gypsy musicians. I have a theory that you need to learn to play flamenco style and then come at the jazz from that playing perspective to get near to Django's style. Notice I only said STYLE, if I could play some of his throw-away licks I would write a song around them!


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From: van lingle
Date: 14 Apr 02 - 05:48 AM

Thanks C-flat, for the info. Re Taylor being "no Django...", Django was no Martin Taylor. All due respect to Grapelli (another one of my heroes), Rheinhart and Taylor had very different styles. Taylor certainly isn't as wild and passionate as Django was but he's one of the most unbelievable fingerstylists to ever pick up the instrument.
Birelli LaGrene used to play very capably in a style inspired by Django back when he was a teenager. vl


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Subject: RE: Django fans click here
From: Dave T
Date: 14 Apr 02 - 10:49 AM

C-Flat: Thanks for the info...I don't agree completely though, with the statement, "...nor could he make the transition to the electric jazz guitar successfully." Granted he didn't receive much recognition for his electric work nor could he make a commercial success of it(maybe that's what you meant??) but that was at a time when he wasn't really popular anymore anyway. I was just listening to the 2nd disc of the "Peche a la Mouche", 2CD set released on Verve, and his playing there (mainly electric) is still incredible, especially, on Blues for Ike, Nuages, September Song and Night and Day.
Anyway thanks again for the info

- Dave T


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From: Mr Red
Date: 14 Apr 02 - 02:24 PM

C-Flat
as I no longer have the LP it is from memory.
In paris after the liberation, maybe just after the war. A few of The Miller military band went or were in France and sought out Django (et al). The LP really only had two or three collaborative tunes, the rest were archive recordings from the same era, certainly Django and maybe some of the Miller band. Can't remember the record company but if there were a more recent CD I doubt it would be the same company - I bought it as a remaindered copy from Dobell's in London.
greg stephens
As for people who can play like Django - a guy called Paul Degville - who specialises in managing Jobcentres (Gov Dole offices) has had the knack for 30 years or so he lived in Malvern for many years but where he moved to I know not.
AND though Chris Newman probably doesn't promote that side of his talent because he wants to excel at his own style (and boy does he, along with Maire ni Chathasaigh) but he was equally skilled at the Django sound-alike.


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Subject: RE: Django fans click here
From: C-flat
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 05:18 AM

Van Lingle; I agree entirely with you, I thought that Grapelli's comment was artless. I've seen Martin Taylor myself and I know what a rare talent he is! Dave T; Regarding Django's electric jazz playing, what I meant is that Django himself felt unable to make the transition from accoustic to electric and was occasionaly frustrated by what he felt were shortcomings in his electric guitar playing. As you rightly point out, there are some wonderful recordings of him using an electric guitar, I suppose only Reinhardt himself knew where he felt most at home, musically speaking. Mr.Red; Thanks for the info. I shall keep a look out Paul Degville and Chris Newman, they're new to me. Thanks to all for your comments. C-flat.


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