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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: RolyH Date: 01 Jun 02 - 05:21 PM Just a reminder that the Union Chapel concert is being repeated on BBC4 at 11.00 pm (BST) on Tuesday June 4th |
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 10 May 02 - 12:51 AM Harry in oldham has emailed the bbc to ask them to show this on normal TV, if enogh people ask them they might do, se the tread calleed Let the BBc know. |
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: Ian Darby Date: 08 May 02 - 08:54 PM I now have 'Down From the Mountain', and the Martin Carthy stuff on video. I also taped the Nico documentary. Its almost worth the licence fee.
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: GUEST,Eliza Date: 08 May 02 - 02:28 PM helloo MC will have been playing his Fylde guitar, if it wasn't the Martin. ec x |
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: Brakn Date: 07 May 02 - 10:33 AM I haven't gone through all the posts........Both programmes on again tonight......Tuesday. |
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: John MacKenzie Date: 03 May 02 - 03:39 PM I'm afraid that the theory about BBC making people want to go digital by tempting them with offerings like this one, is wishfull thinking. We are a minority interest, and small beer as far as the BBC is concerned. Which when you boil it down, means that most of the rest of the world ain't got no taste!! *BG*...Giok |
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: GUEST Date: 03 May 02 - 01:15 PM McGrath, Martin recorded Heartbreak Hotel on his last solo album 'Signs of Life' |
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 03 May 02 - 11:34 AM Noone's mentioned Martin's version of Heartbreak Hotel. What I liked it was the way he played and sang it with respect, no messing about. There's a great album potentially there, which might open up a few eyes to what they're missing. |
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: DMcG Date: 03 May 02 - 11:09 AM BBC4 certainly don't want to make feedback too easy - the message area is only about twenty characters wide! I was at the recording and watched the programmes. The sound on the programme was certainly much better than live - I guess it might make mixing easier if there is less sound through speakers, bouncing off walls etc. There was one song where I felt Eliza's voice was a mixed a little too loud compared to Norma and Martin, but I forget which one and if that's the biggest criticism I can come up with, it can't be bad. Overall BBC4 deserves the praise it is getting for this program. (I just hope it doesn't get shut down before the next one!) |
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: My guru always said Date: 03 May 02 - 10:52 AM Just kept my eyes shut & listened - wonderful! |
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: breezy Date: 03 May 02 - 10:37 AM Martin told me it was on when he bumped into me in Padstow at midnight on Tuesday.Isnt Norma little in life but larger than life when in action .How did her tiangle playing come across at the end? nyaaaaa |
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: breezy Date: 03 May 02 - 10:36 AM Martin told me it was on when he bumped into me in Padstow at midnight on Tuesday.Isnt Norma little in life but larger than life when in action .How did her tiangle playing come across at the end? nyaaaaa |
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 03 May 02 - 09:08 AM It seems that they have already had more feedback to the website than for any other programme yet shown on BBC4. |
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: Abuwood Date: 03 May 02 - 08:01 AM Fabulous TV for once, I hope they do more like that! |
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 03 May 02 - 05:49 AM PS. Bill Sables also plays a Docherty guitar. |
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 03 May 02 - 05:43 AM click here (see the last post in the thread, I have Terry Dochert's phone number PM me if you want it) |
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: Lanfranc Date: 03 May 02 - 04:58 AM John from Hull, Nerdlike to the last, I followed your link, but it led only indirectly to a page for ragtime.org which didn't seem germaine. You've whetted my curiousity, any chance of a relink, because "docherty guitars" and "docherty luthier" searches gave no results on Google and AltaVista? Contributed to BBC4's feedback, though. Alan |
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 02 May 02 - 09:14 PM Unfortunately, the buggers have set the site up so that that link, when accessed externally, takes you to a useless FAQ page. You need instead to go to the BBC4 page: and click on the "contact us" link; it takes you to the same address, but that page has the email form. They obviously don't want to make feedback unnecessarily easy... |
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 02 May 02 - 09:05 PM Another repeat of both programmes together is scheduled for Monday 6th May, starting at 11.35 pm. Before that, at 10.15 pm, is Nico Icon, a documentary about another extraordinary and influential singer; previously shown only in "art" cinemas, so far as I know, and well worth watching, too.
You can email the BBC to tell them how much you enjoyed the Carthy programmes, how much you would like to see more like them, and how you think they ought also (and soon) to be shown on terrestrial channels:
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 02 May 02 - 09:04 PM The guitar in question is a Docherty Click Here It was a good programme, it's about time we had something decent on the BBC instead of Eastenders and the usual shite, I would have taped it, but my video is knackered. |
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: Pete Jennings Date: 02 May 02 - 08:01 PM Mmmmm...a dreadnought with no pickguard. Only guitar make I know that readily fits is a Lowden, but not having seen it, it could've been hand made. Any 'Catters able to solve this mystery? Pete
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: Lanfranc Date: 02 May 02 - 07:43 PM No, Pete, I know his old Martin well. This was a rosewood dreadnought with no pickguard and a smallish mother of pearl inlay on the peghead, otherwise pretty plain. Unfortunately, no-one has yet trained cameramen to linger on pegheads long enough to satisfy us guitar nerds! Alan |
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: Pete Jennings Date: 02 May 02 - 07:36 PM Didn't see it, groan. Don't have digital TV and anyway I was away on biz. Just to add to my misery, my wife phoned me at the hotel to say my mate Andy had just phoned to say turn on the TV quick. Lanfranc, if it was a Santa Cruz then it's the first guitar he's bought in about 39 years. It was probably his old Martin. Pete |
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: Lanfranc Date: 02 May 02 - 07:28 PM We need more programs like this, and on mainstream channels rather than tucked away on digital TV. How good to have a pair of programs that assumed an attention span greater than that of a fruit fly. Martin and Norma are one hell of a couple, and the concert was great, even if a lot of "Prince Heathen" was lost in the mix. Was that a Santa Cruz he was playing? The Troubadour scenes in the documentary brought back memories - my wife swears she saw me in the background, which was possible, but we didn't record it so I'll have to watch more closely next time they run it! More, BBC, More!!! Alan |
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: Ian@whitby Date: 02 May 02 - 01:48 PM I reckon Norma to be one of the best living singers, period. Her voice raises the hair on my spine; and her live performance is so much better - she really lets a song move her. I'm noticing, too, that Eliza's voice and style are beginning to approach her mother's rather closely, but are still different enough to make their duets truly listenable. |
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: GUEST,Greycap Date: 02 May 02 - 03:07 AM Good, wasn't it? |
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: Big Tim Date: 02 May 02 - 02:47 AM I reckon he meant that she's his favourite singer. Previously, I hadn't paid much attention to the Watersons but I will certainly be investigating, and investing in them, now. |
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 01 May 02 - 09:33 PM He may have said it lightly enough, but I reckon he meant it - and he was right. And the singing's only half of it, the way she weaves spells with her hands while she's singing is amazing. |
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: Big Tim Date: 01 May 02 - 07:40 AM Martin wasn't far off when he remarked, lightheartedly, that is wife is "the best singer in the world". What a voice indeed. |
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: GUEST,Bullfrog Jones (on the road) Date: 01 May 02 - 07:19 AM Didn't you hear? Dave Swarbrick died in Coventry a couple of years ago. I thought he looked remarkably good considering! |
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 01 May 02 - 07:03 AM I wondered where that post went to! It belongs on this thread.
Mind, I don't think Martin Carthy would have any objection to it being in here. As he pointed out a couple of times in that first programme, movements for peace and civil rights were the driving force in the folk music upsurge in the sixties. |
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: greg stephens Date: 01 May 02 - 06:53 AM Well, I don't think I'll follow McGrath's diversionary tactics. On the subject of Martin Carthy, I was glad to see the documentary ended with "I bid you goodnight". It's all very well that old English traditional stuff, but when you get down to it we're all old skifflers at heart. |
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: GUEST Date: 01 May 02 - 06:49 AM I don't quite follow, McGrath? |
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 01 May 02 - 06:47 AM Yes, there are seeds of hope - the tragedy is the shoots get crushed when they start to grow. Here's an article from last September about the Palestinian Center for the Study of Non-Violence, a Palestinian peace group in Hebron. I wonder what's become of this in the year since? |
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: Mikey joe Date: 01 May 02 - 05:42 AM Can anyone tell me what is wrong with Dave Swarbrick. I didn't know he was ill. hope it's nothing very serious although he didn't look well. Cheers Mj |
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 30 Apr 02 - 07:49 PM It's been repeated NOW.john |
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: RolyH Date: 30 Apr 02 - 06:57 PM The documentry was great,and the sound on the concert didn't come out as bad as the people who went to the live show said it would be.Got that down on CD. |
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 30 Apr 02 - 06:37 PM Just finished watching it, both the documentary and the concert. Well the concert was obviously going tobe great. But the documentary was brilliant, brought it all together. And as always, Martin got it right, including about the politics. "CND and anti-apartheid werte the engine of folk."
I taped it - but I'm hanging on to the tape, I'm afraid. (I will see what I can do to get my act together to copy it, if noone else does.)
But they are going to have to put it out on a mainstream channel before long. I think right now they are putting on a few gems like this to encourage people to go digital and get BBC Four TV. |
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: Llanfair Date: 30 Apr 02 - 06:24 PM I've just finished watching the programmes, sorry, didn't video it, we don't know how. It was such a treat to have 2 hours of folk on the telly, and, as Martin is a hero of mine, it was extra special. It was also good to see Swarb in action again, he looked much better than he did at Cropredy the year before last. Altogether, it was damn good. Cheers, Bron. |
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: NELLIE Date: 30 Apr 02 - 02:40 PM Anyone video this for me. I will gladly pay video and post. Thanks if anyone can. Jenny |
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 30 Apr 02 - 07:42 AM Bearheart - might be an idea to write to the BBC about it. That kind of thing might even help them sell it, and you could likely get on a mailing list to be told if it's likely to surface somewhere. (And you could email the Carthy Waterson site) |
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: GUEST Date: 30 Apr 02 - 04:13 AM *refresh* It's on tonight |
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: Bearheart Date: 28 Apr 02 - 09:18 PM Does anyone know if any public TV channels in the US will be picking this up? I don't do TV but my sister does and would be very interested. How can we get a station here to get it? Bekki |
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: Noreen Date: 28 Apr 02 - 03:37 PM refresh |
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on UK TV From: Mr Red Date: 28 Apr 02 - 11:54 AM actually it was a whole new thread - one on digital TV at least and one on MC on BBC4. I have an offer of a recording from a catter, if it all comes together I can pass it on. PM me if you want to form a chain. Do not break the chain .........***BG*** |
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Subject: Martin Carthy on UK TV From: Hilary Date: 28 Apr 02 - 10:40 AM A program entitled 'Martin Carthy : English Roots' is listed for BBC 4,tuesday 9pm & BBC 4 sessions, tuesday 10pm BBC on my TV doesn't go beyond 2 - so I guess it's on digital stations. - now digital tv - that's a whole other thread. Hilary |
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: GUEST Date: 26 Apr 02 - 05:22 AM There was a thread about Tara TV a few weeks back |
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: Big Tim Date: 26 Apr 02 - 04:36 AM Speaking of digi tv, anyone know why Tara suddenly disappeared about two weeks ago? |
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: DMcG Date: 25 Apr 02 - 05:04 PM I hope to, but I may well forget if I am watching it as well! |
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Subject: RE: Martin Carthy on BBC4 From: Mr Red Date: 25 Apr 02 - 02:52 PM Bugger! Bugger! Bugger! No digital here. anyone recording them? |
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