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Origins: Jenny Jenkins DigiTrad: JENNIE JENKINS JENNIE JENKINS (3) JENNY JENKINS Related threads: Lyr Req: Jenny Jenkins (31) Lyr Req: Sweet Jenny Jones (Morris Dance) (18) Origin of Aunt Jenny Died? (12) In Mudcat MIDIs: Jennie Jenkins Jenny Jenkins (Recorded by Mrs. Alice Brown, July 24, 1930, in Bethel, Vermont, from the singing of Mrs. Susan Chase, as learned from her aunt when a little girl. midi from notation in the book) Will You Wear Red? (Noted by Cecil Sharp from Mrs. Delie Hughes at Cane River, Burnsville, N.C., in 1918) |
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Subject: Lyr Add: JANE JENKINS From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 23 Jun 02 - 10:42 AM The other DT file, JENNIE JENKINS, is quoted from a book called A Treasury of Folk Songs (Sylvia and John Kolb); no tune is given or traditional source named. Checking the first line through the Roud Folk Song Index suggests that this version is the one noted by John and Alan Lomax from Mr. & Mrs. E.C. Ball of Rugby, Virginia, in 1937. A tune in ABC notation was given for it in this thread: Tune Add: Please Post Tunes Here (scroll down a bit to find it) but no source was named so I don't know if it's really the right tune for the text. Nevertheless, here is a midi made from it: Jennie Jenkins (midi) (original source unknown). Since the Green Mountain Songster text has come up again, I'll post it as it originally appeared: JANE JENKINS Roud Folk Song Index number 731. |
Subject: Origins: Jenny Jenkins From: masato sakurai Date: 23 Jun 02 - 09:13 AM The Traditional Ballad Index: Jenny Jenkins: Jenny JenkinsDESCRIPTION: The young man/men try to invite Jenny to the dance by asking her what color she will wear: "Will you wear the (red), O ne'er, o ne'er, o, Will you wear the red, Jenny Jenkins?" She objects to most colors, but at last may agree to one of themAUTHOR: unknown EARLIEST DATE: 1823 KEYWORDS: dancing questions courting rejection clothes colors FOUND IN: US(Ap,NE,So) REFERENCES (7 citations): Randolph 453, "I'll Never Wear the Red Any More" (1 text) Lomax-FSUSA 15, "Jennie Jenkins" (1 text, 1 tune) Sharp/Karpeles-80E 65, "Will You Wear Red?" (1 text, 1 tune) Scott-BoA, pp. 48-49, "Jenny Jenkins" (1 text, 1 tune) Arnett, p. 11, "Jenny Jenkins" (1 text, 1 tune) Silber-FSWB, p. 346, "Jenny Jenkins" (1 text) DT, JJENKINS JJENKIN2 RECORDINGS: E. C. & Orna Ball, "Jennie Jenkins" (AAFS 8) Mr & Mrs. Estil C. Ball, "Jennie Jenkins" (AFS, 1941; on LC02) Warde Ford, "Jinnie Jenkins" (AFS 4198 B4, 1938; tr.; in AMMEM/Cowell) New Lost City Ramblers, "Jennie Jenkins" (on NLCR10) Margaret MacArthur, "Jenny Jenkins" (on MMacArthur01) Notes: Often used as a courting game. The boy will ask the girl if she will wear a particular color. She is required to answer in rhyme (e.g. "Will you wear the blue... No, I won't wear the blue, for the color isn't true"). If she fails, she must kiss the boy or, perhaps, go to the dance with him. This has been known to produce some rather strange rhymes -- "I won't wear purple; it's the color of a turtle"; "Orange I won't wear -- and it rhymes, so there!" "Oh, what do you care If I just go bare?" - RBW File: R453 Go to the Ballad Search form The Ballad Index Copyright 2002 by Robert B. Waltz and David G. Engle. .................................................
Recordings:
Jenny Jenkins
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(From: THIS PAGE) ~Masato |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Jenny Jenkins From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 23 Jun 02 - 08:02 AM A song often found in tradition in America, so there are a lot of different versions. The DT text, JENNY JENKINS, was taken from a record by Margaret MacArthur, and is a collation of two variants in Vermont Folksongs and Ballads (Helen Hartness Flanders and Alice Brown, 1931) rather than a traditional set in its own right. The tune and one verse were recorded by Mrs. Alice Brown, July 24, 1930, in Bethel, Vermont, from the singing of Mrs. Susan Chase; to this, Margaret MacArthur has added the bulk of the other text given, reprinted fron The Green Mountain Songster (1823), using Mrs. Chase's interleaved refrain rather than the older one, which is quite different. The DT doesn't give the tune, but I've made a midi from notation in the book for future inclusion; here is a temporary link to it: Jenny Jenkins (midi): Mrs. Chase's tune. A recording made by Sidney Robertson Cowell of Warde Ford in Central Valley, California in 1938 can be found at California Gold: (Library of Congress). I can provide a link to a transcription of the text but it isn't cross-referenced to the audio recording, and so the following link is to a temporary file which will probably expire very quickly. You may have to go to the main page (1st. link above) and browse through the tune titles until you find it. How annoying. Jinnie Jenkins (audio: perhaps) Here is a short set from North Carolina (1918): WILL YOU WEAR RED? |
Subject: Lyr Add: JENNY JENKINS From: masato sakurai Date: 23 Jun 02 - 06:57 AM Four versions.
(1) Jennie Jenkins
Will you wear white, oh my dear, oh my dear?
Will you wear blue, oh my dear, oh my dear?
Will you wear red, oh my dear, oh my dear?
Will you wear pink, oh my dear, oh my dear?
Will you wear green, oh my dear, oh my dear?
Will you wear rose, oh my dear, oh my dear?
(SOURCE: KIDiddles: Song Lyrics)
(2) Jennie JenKins
(SOURCE: AAADA)
(3) JENNY JENKINS
Oh, will you wear blue, oh my dear, oh my dear?
[For additional verses, substitute other colors and rhyming phrases for the underlined words]
(Final Verse:)
[Smart-alec kid: "But what color ribbon will you wear?"]
(SOURCE: Lyrics - Friends)
(4) Jenny Jenkins
Will you wear white
Chorus:
Will you wear green
[chorus]
Will you wear blue
[chorus]
Will you wear yellow
[chorus]
Will you wear brown
[chorus]
Will you wear beige
[chorus]
Will you wear orange
[chorus]
What will you wear?
[chorus]
(SOURCE: Greatful Dead Lyric and Song Finder) ~Masato |
Subject: Lyr Add: JENNY JENKINS From: AllisonA(Animaterra) Date: 23 Jun 02 - 06:20 AM DT link here.
The kid's version I teach and enjoy is: |
Subject: Jenny Jenkins From: GUEST,Lesley Cheetham Date: 23 Jun 02 - 04:15 AM Does anyone have any versions of this song (tune too would be appreciated)? There is one version on the data base but it is not quite the same as the one I heard on a tape of children's folk songs some years ago from some friends in Seattle (tape long since lost unfortunately). Lesley |
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