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beachcomber 27 Aug 02 - 07:09 PM
beachcomber 27 Aug 02 - 07:10 PM
Tinker 27 Aug 02 - 07:11 PM
Les from Hull 27 Aug 02 - 07:12 PM
Mr Happy 27 Aug 02 - 09:41 PM
George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca 27 Aug 02 - 09:51 PM
Art Thieme 27 Aug 02 - 10:35 PM
JohnInKansas 27 Aug 02 - 11:01 PM
wysiwyg 28 Aug 02 - 12:44 AM
GUEST,.gargoyle 28 Aug 02 - 01:11 AM
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Sandra in Sydney 28 Aug 02 - 09:20 AM
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Sandra in Sydney 29 Aug 02 - 11:14 AM
JohnInKansas 30 Aug 02 - 05:49 AM
Uncle_DaveO 30 Aug 02 - 10:16 AM
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Subject: Printing off threads??
From: beachcomber
Date: 27 Aug 02 - 07:09 PM

Another thing that I cannot do is print one or more postings alone from a thread. How does one??

beachcomber


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Subject: Printing off threads??
From: beachcomber
Date: 27 Aug 02 - 07:10 PM

Another thing that I cannot do is print one or more postings alone from a thread. How does one?? I usually end up printing the lot and, when the thread is at 100 postings this could become somewhat messy, ??

beachcomber


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Subject: RE: Help: Printing off threads??
From: Tinker
Date: 27 Aug 02 - 07:11 PM

I highlight the section I want and then Print Selection. Hope that helps....

Tinker


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Subject: RE: Help: Printing off threads??
From: Les from Hull
Date: 27 Aug 02 - 07:12 PM

I just copy the bits I want and stick it into a word processing program for further tidying up. Highlight and right click. (This is Windows)


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Subject: RE: Help: Printing off threads??
From: Mr Happy
Date: 27 Aug 02 - 09:41 PM

just highlight [right mouse & hold] what you want[it'll change colour to dark bloo]then go to edit & clik copy then open new page in word. go to edit again & click paste. then you can print as normal


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Subject: RE: Help: Printing off threads??
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 27 Aug 02 - 09:51 PM

The other possible way to do that, is to click on the name of the person who posted the message in the thread.

You'll get a list of ALL the posting made by that person. Just select from the list presented and you have just that message.

More work than that presented above though.


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Subject: RE: Help: Printing off threads??
From: Art Thieme
Date: 27 Aug 02 - 10:35 PM

TINKER,

Thanks so much!!!!!!!! In all the years I've been at Mudcat, I NEVER KNEW how to do that. I've saved whole huge threads when I just wanted one oir two posts because I assumed that is what one had to do. Live 'n learn, I guess.

Thanks again,

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: Help: Printing off threads??
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 27 Aug 02 - 11:01 PM

If you're just printing a single piece of a thread (or any web page) highlighting and then using "Print - Selection" is the simplest.

I usually assemble a few selections by copying and pasting into Word so I can print them all at once - or abide by the rule that anything worth printing should be printed to a file (i.e. saved) nstead of wasting paper.

You can highlight (select) pieces of almost anything on the web, by clicking and dragging over it - or by clicking once to set a "starting point" and holding down the shift key while you click an "end point," then Control-C or whatever "copy" method you use.

If you just "Paste" into your word processor you'll sometimes get a bunch of mangled html, but if you chose (in Word at least) "Edit - Paste Special - Unformatted Text" all the junk disappears. [In Word97 that's "Alt-E, S, DownArrow, Enter. In Word 2000 & later you probably need an UParrow in place of the DownArrow.]

In Word, if you do paste a bunch of trash you can highlight and use "Control-Shift-F9" to "unlink" most of it, although this may convert a few "frames" to "tables" that you'll still need to delete.

John


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Subject: RE: Help: Printing off threads??
From: wysiwyg
Date: 28 Aug 02 - 12:44 AM

Don't forget to make the text size the size you want before you highlight and Print Selection.

~S~


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Subject: RE: Help: Printing off threads??
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 28 Aug 02 - 01:11 AM

TO STRIP HTML FROM ANY WEB-PAGE

You really do no want to send friends pop-up ads, boxes and gibberish, in your e-mails....nor do you want them in your print-outs....Therefore, I suggest:

First open NOTEPAD -

Return to the web-page

1. Highlight the text
2. Cut it (easy right click with PC mouse) Edit crap with MAC
3. Paste into Notepad
4. Repeat process until you have harvested all the material that you desire.

Open your word-processing program.

Now highlight the material in the NOTEPAD and paste it into your word-processing program for editing, modification and clean-up.

This process STRIPS the message of all the hidden codes. Now you have straight, clean, good ASSI TEXT that you can modify to YOUR specifications not the original web-designer's excess baggage.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle


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Subject: RE: Help: Printing off threads??
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 28 Aug 02 - 01:12 AM

Ignore WYSWIG - she's a gad-fly around here.


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Subject: RE: Help: Printing off threads??
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 28 Aug 02 - 09:20 AM

I use Netscape & recently found, after more than 6 months of using it, that I have an Edit Page command under FILE! To use technical language this changes the page & creates lots of cute little thingies, which means I can copy the exact bit of the thread I want, whack it into a new message & send it to work to tart it up. I don't do any word processing at home as I am working on a laptop, due to lack the space to fit a real, full size computer.

Previously I just used the Send Page command (also under File) & sent it to work & tinkered till I could cut out the bit I wanted, usually a song, enlarged it to 12 & tarted it up, then printed it.

Sandra


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Subject: RE: Help: Printing off threads??
From: beachcomber
Date: 28 Aug 02 - 02:19 PM

Thank you all so much, gotta sign off now, got some selecting and printing to do (Yes , I'll be careful about copyright )

Thanks again, if this thread lasts long enough, I'll let you know how I get on.

Cheers

beach


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Subject: RE: Help: Printing off threads??
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 28 Aug 02 - 03:03 PM

Gargoyle -

If your word processor is Word - and probably with most others - you get the same effect as running through Notepad by simply using the "Edit, PasteSpecial, UnformattedText" directly into Word. It saves opening another program, and is really quick if you learn the couple of keystrokes to do it from the keyboard: Alt-E, S, one Arrow, Enter. The Arrow key stroke may be up or down, depending on which version of Word you use, but I haven't seen a version that needs more than one arrow stroke.

John


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Subject: RE: Help: Printing off threads??
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 28 Aug 02 - 04:09 PM

There is a duplicate thread at Printing off threads.

It hasn't gotten much action, so it should be allowed to die peacefully, but there were two comments posted that may be of interest:

From: Mr Happy: 27-Aug-02 - 09:41 PM

just highlight [right mouse & hold] what you want[it'll change colour to dark bloo]then go to edit & clik copy then open new page in word. go to edit again & click paste. then you can print as normal

From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca: 27-Aug-02 - 09:51 PM

The other possible way to do that, is to click on the name of the person who posted the message in the thread.

You'll get a list of ALL the posting made by that person. Just select from the list presented and you have just that message.

More work than that presented above though.


I'm not sure about Mr Happy's "right click" to select. Maybe it's a Mac thing? Standard Windows is a left click and drag to select. You can sometimes get better precision by clicking a "start point" and then holding down Shift while you click an "end point." When I try to select large pieces by dragging, I invariably run off the edge of the screen and get one of those "uncontrolled superscrolls."

I wonder if George Seto discovered his method (interesting) when he tried to start a selection in a clicky(?). You do need to find a "dead" space to click to start the selection. You can usually end a selection in a link, but results may be unpredictable. It's usually easier to copy a little extra and delete it after you've pasted into something editable.

Those interested in Sandra in Sydney's "method" may note that IE gives me an "Edit in Word97" option under the File selection that may be what she's talking about. This opens the html page for the webpage in Word - and has the "quaint" feature that you can't close the Word document until you "save" it somewhere. Unless you're editing to re-post on the Web, I wouldn't think it would be too convenient to try to use it for saving someone's comments from a thread.

If I want to look at the html, I usually just "right click" on the web page and select the "view source" option. If I needed to "send something to the office," I'd probably copy directly from the web page and paste into a Word document, and send it to myself as an email attachment.

I can understand Sandra's reluctance to do "real world word processing" on a portable, but with a $15 "real mouse" plugged into most laptops, most of the select/copy/paste/print options discussed are quite workable. Most laptops of recent vintage will detect a mouse if you connect it before you turn on, and will ignore it if it's not there - so you don't need to carry the mouse with you if you won't need it outside the house.

John
I deleted the other thread and transferred the messages here, so there may be some duplication above
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Help: Printing off threads??
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 29 Aug 02 - 11:14 AM

Hello, JohninKansas

I do have a mouse! - a gift from a colleague (so it didn't cost anything because it was handed in as there was something wrong with it, & it's behaved perfectly since it left the office) - but I work in less than ideal conditions at home & always agrevate my hands & arms which have permanent damage from overusing computers & arthritis. I use the laptop for e-mail & reading Mudcat & other sites which I can't acces from work as we don't have internet access.

I do all the intensive stuff at work using an ergonomic setup, with my arms properly supported, stuff I can't do comfortably perched over my dining table.

But I wouldn't miss Mudcat for quids, it's what I always open up first each night. As my friend Bob Bolton always says it's a great community.

1pm & my alarm is set for 6.30!! so bye for now & thanks for the thoughts & suggestions.

sandra


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Subject: RE: Help: Printing off threads??
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 30 Aug 02 - 05:49 AM

S-i-S

It's perfectly permissible to put your laptop on your tummy while you lie comfortably in bed - with your mouse on a book beside you, if that suits you. (A proper backrest is recommended, of course.)

Most laptops are an imperfect solution for people accustomed to a full keyboard and a mouse - ergonomic or otherwise. Just a tad better than no solution at all. I find that a brief session with the lap top cramps my brain - from constantly concentrating on not hitting the wrong (usually adjacent/multiple) key(s).

The method you mentioned, of opening a page edit, on my machine (with IE) gives me html - which is full of excess codes that would make later editing a real pain. If this is what you are getting ("it opens the page & creates lots of cute little thingies"), try changing the extension on the file you send to the office back to ".htm" - if that's not how it gets there. (Make a copy the first time, and change the copy.) It's likely that if you double click the ".htm" file in WinExplorer it will open in your web browser looking much like the original post, and you won't have to sort out what you want from all the "cute thingies."

You can probably get the same thing with a right-click in any blank spot on the web page, and selecting "view source" from the pop-up menu. Control-A to select all, Control-C to copy, and then open your word processor and Control-V to paste it.

Of course, since I don't use netscape, you may be getting something else entirely.

You can copy most things directly from a web page, just by highlighting what you want and Ctl-C or Edit-Copy, and then paste it directly to your word processor or notepad/wordpad. If you don't want links and stuff, in Word you can just "Edit" "PasteSpecial" as "UnformattedText."

Of course, any method you have for enjoying the 'cat is fine. If it works - use it.

John


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Subject: RE: Help: Printing off threads??
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 30 Aug 02 - 10:16 AM

Forgive my ignorance here, please.

I don't understand the instruction "print selection". Clicking PRINT gives me a window with choices to print the whole document or specified pages. Where do I find "print selection"?

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: Help: Printing off threads??
From: GUEST,sorefingers
Date: 30 Aug 02 - 01:21 PM

My old win95 Netscape V 4.7 box does not offer the rightclick and select print option -after mouseoverselect - my wife's newer win98 box does! I suspect it may be an IE Explorer attempt to challenge Netscape - fat chance ha ha ha -.

Oddly my old now unused Linux Box did as well, it has some kind of hashed up GUI with all kinds of bells and whistles in, what I most miss about that is the power of killing things like popups etc while on the internet. My next Box will be the IBM Linux model :0)


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Subject: RE: Help: Printing off threads??
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 30 Aug 02 - 02:16 PM

Uncle_DaveO

The Print Selection option may not be available with some older printer drivers. It has become so common with newer printers that I'm afraid we've all just assumed everyone has that feature. It is a "standard Windows" feature, but won't appear if your printer (driver) doesn't support it.

There are also a few programs that invoke their own "print rules," that may not offer the option to print just a selection. It is not too uncommon, for example, to find pdf files that have had a variety of "locks" applied to make your life more interesting.

Just to be perfectly clear, the "Print Driver" is the software that is loaded when you "install" a printer.

Updated drivers are frequently available for free download from the printer manufacturers, so you may want to take a look at whether there is a more "modern" one for your printer, if you don't get a "print selection" option.

If you go to Start - Settings - Printers, or just to Control Panel - Printers, you should see a list of installed printers (maybe just one). If you right-click on one of the listed printers, and select "Properties," you should get a small window, with a bunch of "tabs" along the top. Select the "Details" tab, and it will tell you what printer you are using and what "port" it's connected to; and in a second box, what printer driver you are using.

You can change to another driver here - although Windows may ask you for your "installation disk" or for where to look for your downloaded driver.

You can generally use any driver that "speaks a language" that your printer recognizes.

If you don't want to risk upsetting your existing printer setup, you can look at the "details" tab to be sure what printer you've said you have, and then go back to "Printers" and click the "Add New" option. Install a different but similar printer "to the same port," and you'll get the driver for whatever one you install.

With more than one "printer" available, when you select "File-Print" you should get a box that has a "Properties" or a "Printer" button, or both. If you click there before you continue, you will get the option to change which "printer" the job is sent to.

If the print driver you are using has the capability, "File-Print" should offer the options "Print All," "Print Current Page," "Print pages from x to y," and "Print Selection." Note that if you haven't selected something, the Print Selection will be "grayed out."

If you print by clicking the "Print" icon on the tool bar, you don't usually get any choices. Whatever is set as your default printer will get the job immediately.


Sorefingers - The right click on the desktop should work in Win95 or Win98, but you have to be aware that it is "context sensitive." If you click on "something," it will try to give you things that apply to whatever was where you clicked. If you click on a "blank" space (sometimes hard to find on some web pages) you should get the "print" option. What looks like blank space may actually be part of "something," just invisible there. Clicking "print," if it appears, should give you the same options as going to the top and clicking "File" and then "Print" on the menu that rolls down.

This all probably sounds trivial to those who do it, and like a heap of b.s. to those who haven't figured it all out; but it does usually work if you get set up in "standard" configuration - or something that approaches it.

John


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Subject: RE: Help: Printing off threads??
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 30 Aug 02 - 03:30 PM

The "DUH" method.
Start at top of thread. It is 20 clicks to get to John's message to Uncle Dave, 30aug02 02:16pm. Divide by 2 and tell your printer to print page 10. Out comes the first part of the message (must print 11 to get it all, John used too many words). Bypass all the comfuser stuff.


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Subject: RE: Help: Printing off threads??
From: Mudlark
Date: 30 Aug 02 - 03:43 PM

And I'm stuck with one more wrinkle...I use an iMac with an Epson 800 printer that usually freezes if I try to print straight from Netscape. So I use the highlight, copy and paste into Applewks WP method. Very interesting, tho, to learn about the "edit page" command under "File." I'm not very adventurous and have never actually noticed it before!


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Subject: RE: Help: Printing off threads??
From: GUEST,sorefingers
Date: 30 Aug 02 - 04:57 PM

As well as getting things - grin - in the edit window of Netscape you can write letters, books, make webpages, make photo galleries and lots of things I can't now think of -- oh and make a MP3 server for your local network.

With Netscape since the first commercial release I saved buckets of money on software expenses.

In fact the Edit window - Composer - can be tweaked a little to include all gizmos this site uses, text boxes - buttons - updaters =hidden= - etc.


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Subject: RE: Help: Printing off threads??
From: Mr Happy
Date: 30 Aug 02 - 05:47 PM

john in kansas,

yes, you're right. when i said 'right click to highlight' of course meant 'left clik'.

sorry if this caused cofnusion.


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