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Lyr Add: Whilst the Gamekeepers lie Sleeping DigiTrad: WHILE GAMEKEEPERS LIE SLEEPING Related threads: Lyr Req: Long Tom the Old Yorkshire Gamekeeper (12) Lyr Req: While the Gamekeepers Lie Sleeping (19) Lyr Req: gamekeepers, bonny may -june tabor? (8) |
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Subject: Whilst the Gamekeepers lie Sleeping From: MMario Date: 10 Sep 02 - 10:44 AM The lyrics presented by John Paddy Brown in FolkSongs of Old Hampshire appear to me to be different enough from those in the DT version to warrant posting them. The tune (per Brown - from F. Purslow in Marrow Bones)appears to be the same. These lyrics listed as collected by george B. Gardiner from "a resident of Marchwood" in 1907.
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whilst the Gamekeepers lie Sleeping From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 10 Sep 02 - 11:58 AM Roud Folk Song Index no.363. The song as given in Marrowbones (EFDS Publications, 1965), where it appeared as Gamekeepers lie Sleeping, includes the following source information. Gardiner H.651/H.1134. Chas. Bull, Marchwood, Southampton. June 1907 and Jas. Ray (a 21 year old gipsy) Petersfield, Hants. August 1908.No indication is given as to which bits are from whom, but guessing from Purslow's standard practice in that book, I'd expect that Bull's text was amplified from Ray's. The tune with the DT file has what appear to be some rather eccentric note-durations, but these may be the result of making the midi with Noteworthy, which doesn't appear to conform to normal standards; or of an unusually meticulous transcription by ear from a record. Whatever the case, if these are regularised and the tune re-barred, it's identical to that in Marrowbones. That being so, I'll add the comment from that book. This time-signature is very approximate. The song should be sung very freely, and the accompaniment should be non-rhythmic.For some reason, Brown has altered the text. Verses 5 and 6 as collected used the historic present: I picks her up and I smooth her down, |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whilst the Gamekeepers lie Sleeping From: Micca Date: 10 Sep 02 - 06:02 PM Malcolm, get hold of June Tabors recording on her Airs and Graces album, the timing and length of notes in that are a bit variable!!!(if you have trouble finding a copy, I could send you a tape) |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whilst the Gamekeepers lie Sleeping From: harpgirl Date: 10 Sep 02 - 07:32 PM I've always loved this song. Is it not a variant of "The Lincolnshire Poacher?" |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whilst the Gamekeepers lie Sleeping From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 10 Sep 02 - 08:31 PM I've heard June Tabor's arrangement, and the guitar part is intelligent, though I think she perhaps rushes the song a little; so far as I can remember, it's based on the traditional set collected by Gardiner, but with the textual alterations mentioned above. It isn't related to The Lincolnshire Poacher. |
Subject: Lyr Add: HARES IN THE OLD PLANTATION From: RTim Date: 09 Jul 08 - 08:56 AM HARES IN THE OLD PLANTATION. Collected by George Gardiner from Charles Bull of Marchwood June 1907 - I believe he actually lived at Longdown when collected from, which is between Marchwood and Ashurst. However, when younger he lived in the Magazine Cottages, Magazine Lane, Marchwood, and his father - Samuel, lived at Longdown and worked as a shepherd. These are the actual Bull words, not the Purslow amended version using Ray's words, etc., to be sung with Bull's tune. I had a dog in my father's care, 'Twas in his care and keeping, To catch some game was my intent, While keepers they lie sleeping. My dog and I now scent could tell, All around their habitation, So up jumps one and away she runs, Right into the plantation. "Tan, tan" she holloed, "tan, tan" she cried, "There's something stops me running," I says "be still you silly thing, For your Uncle's just a-coming." My dog and I now scent could tell, Twas in a field on further, Up jumps one and away she run, My dog and she struck murder. I picked her up and I cracked her crown, And in my pocket I put her, Thinks I to myself "I better be off, Before the keeper's coming." I went into a neighbour's house, And asked what they would give me, They said they'd give me a crown a brace, If I could bring them fifty. I went into a public house, There I sat and got mellow, I spent that crown and another one too, Wasn't I a jolly fellow? Tim Radford |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whilst the Gamekeepers lie Sleeping From: Tradsinger Date: 09 Jul 08 - 11:10 AM Here's my version, as on my CD and as learnt (apart from verse .. from gypsy Wiggie Smith in Gloucestershire and possibly the only folk song with to contain the word 'airgun'. I took my dog and my airgun too And then I took a ramble I rambled round for a mile or two To see what I could find-oh. I had not gone two fields from home Before up jumped a hare-oh Oh, up she jumped and away she ran Made my dog, made her squeal murder I had not gone three fields from home Before up jumped another Up she jumped and away she ran Right into my plantation. See how she laughs, see how she cried Then something stopped her running Lie still, lie still, oh you poor pussy cat For your now is a-coming. I popped that hare into my bag Not noticing of her features Oh let her be a buck or doe She was a charming creature. I took that hare along the road And sold her for a crown-oh Tbey said they would give me a crown a brace If I could bring them fifty. If your're quick, you can hear it on the Music Well billboard, as 'I took my dog.' Tradsinger |
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