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Lyr Req: hymn to the tune "Star of the County Down

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I HEARD THE VOICE OF JESUS SAY
MURDER OF MARIA MARTIN
ROGER THE MILLER
STAR OF THE COUNTY DOWN
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GUEST,jp a guest in your house 31 Oct 02 - 10:48 AM
MMario 31 Oct 02 - 11:05 AM
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InOBU 31 Oct 02 - 11:28 AM
MMario 31 Oct 02 - 11:29 AM
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Subject: alt. words to star of the county down
From: GUEST,jp a guest in your house
Date: 31 Oct 02 - 10:48 AM

...say does any one out there know the Christian alternate words to
"star of the county down.......?
thanks


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Subject: RE: alt. words to star of the county down
From: MMario
Date: 31 Oct 02 - 11:05 AM

There are many. There are several psalms which have been set to the tune.

Anything in particular you are looking for?


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Subject: RE: alt. words to star of the county down
From: GUEST
Date: 31 Oct 02 - 11:22 AM

how about anything ya got .... do irish trad music
and would like to slip in the gospel once in a while.
there was one version i believe that spoke of Jesus???


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Subject: RE: alt. words to star of the county down
From: InOBU
Date: 31 Oct 02 - 11:28 AM

There are Quaker words to it,(are we Christian? Hmmm depends who you ask... ) see my post about my song, the Ballad of Richard Murrey (an underground railway song...) may also be found in the post about music about slavery... can someone do a blue clicky? Cheers Larry


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Subject: RE: alt. words to star of the county down
From: MMario
Date: 31 Oct 02 - 11:29 AM

see the link above ( I heard the voice of Jesus say) and also this post from Helen in a previous thread


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Subject: RE: alt. words to star of the county down
From: GUEST
Date: 31 Oct 02 - 11:40 AM

MMario..... thanks that is the one i was lookin for........

jp


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Subject: RE: alt. words to star of the county down
From: Lanfranc
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 03:59 AM

Other lyrics sung to "Star of the County Down" or close variants thereof include: "Come all you worthy Christian Men" (aka "Job"), "Dives and Lazarus", "Unquiet Grave", and "Crooked Jack".

According to the Oxford Book of Carols, the tune as applied to the first two above was ".. noted by the late A.j. Hipkins in Westminster and printed in "English County Songs".."

Another Irish adoption of an English tune?

Alan


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Subject: RE: alt. words to star of the county down
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 10:25 AM

This one is always coming up; it was used for practically everything during the 19th century. Star of the County Down seems to have been written in the early 20th century, but has been so widely recorded commercially that almost everybody calls the tune by that name nowadays. Its earliest recognisable appearance in print was with the song Gilderoy (early 18th century, but broadside examples without music date from the latter 17th) in England, but the tune -in that form- may be Scottish or English. Simpson (The British Broadside Ballad and Its Music, 1966) considers it likely that the whole "tune cluster" (Dives and Lazarus, Come All You Faithful Christians, etc.) derives ultimately from an English tune of the mid 17th century, The Clean Country Way.

All this has been said here before, of course. Look especially for Bruce Olson's comments on the subject.


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE CLEAN CONTRARY WAY
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 01 Nov 02 - 03:16 PM

Inexplicably, I typed "Country" instead of "Contrary". May as well quote the tune:

X:1
T:THE CLEAN CONTRARY WAY
S:Cambridge University MS Dd.6.48, fol. 17v
B:The British Broadside Ballad and Its Music, Claude M. Simpson, 1966.
N:Mid-17th century. Originally set for lyra-viol, an octave lower and unbarred.
L:1/8
Q:1/4=100
M:4/4
K:Bb
G2|G2G2_G2D2|B2B2c2c2|d2B2A2G2|G6G2|G2G2_G2D2|B2B2c2c2|d2B2A2G2|G6d=e|
f2d2e2c2|d2B2A2F2|B2B2c2c2|d6G2|G2G2_G2D2|B2B2c2c2|d2B2A2G2|G6|]


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