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GIBSON Guitar Raffle, Funds for School

Alice 17 Dec 02 - 02:48 AM
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Subject: GIBSON Guitar Raffle, Funds for School
From: Alice
Date: 17 Dec 02 - 02:48 AM

Some of you may know that I live in the same town as the Gibson Guitar plant in Montana. Tonight at the Christmas high school orchestra and choir concert it was announced that Gibson Guitar and the local music shop, Music Villa, have donated a Gibson guitar to be raffled as a fund raiser for the school music program. The tickets are $6 or two for $10. I saw a photo of the guitar on display and the retail price was $3,000 (if I remember rightly). I will get more details on the guitar and a photo if possible tomorrow. If anyone is interested in supporting the school program and getting a chance at this guitar, let me know.
I will find out from the school tomorrow about how out-of-towners can participate in the raffle.
Here is Gibson's Montana web site:
Click here

Alice


To get tickets, if you are not in Montana,
contact me by personal message (click) or by email at:

alice@aliceflynn.com

Click here for explanation of
out-of-state ordering procedure.


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Subject: RE: GIBSON Guitar Raffle, Funds for School
From: bill\sables
Date: 17 Dec 02 - 06:12 PM

I wouldn't mind a gamble of $10 on this one when you find out more Alice.
Cheers Bill


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Subject: RE: GIBSON Guitar Raffle, Funds for School
From: Alice
Date: 17 Dec 02 - 06:34 PM

It gets even better... the guitar is actually worth from 4 to 5 thousand dollars and we have until March 29 to buy tickets. I got a photo of the guitar a few minutes ago and have posted it with the information to buy tickets at this link:
http://my.montana.net/aliceflynn/guitar.jpg

SPECS:
Gibson Super 200 Cutaway Custom Acoustic

The drawing will be held NEXT MARCH during the high school talent show, called "Hawk's Night Live", on March 29, 2003, Bozeman, MT, USA.

You can order tickets through the email address at the above link. Send your email with the subject "Gibson Guitar Raffle" so the tech guys don't delete it as spam. If you want to call the Music Department office directly to get raffle tickets, send a personal message to me and I will give you the office phone number.

Alice


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Subject: RE: GIBSON Guitar Raffle, Funds for School
From: Alice
Date: 17 Dec 02 - 06:44 PM

From the Gibson description of the Super 200 Cutaway Custom
on their website:


This model's body mirrors the Super 400 and the
acoustic SJ-200 designs, but with a cutaway body that
allows full access of the fingerboard. The sound is a
perfect blend of the rich bass and big volume of the
J-200, with the warm mids of the archtops.

                   Body Style: Super Jumbo
                   Top wood: Hand-selected Solid Sitka Spruce
                   Back and Sides: Highly Figured Maple
                   FB & Bridge Wood: Ebony
                   Neck Wood: Highly Figured Maple
                   Fretboard Inlay: Unique MOP Split Block inlays
                   Other Inlays: Double MOP Bridge Inlays
                   Scale: 25-1/2"
                   Tuners: Vintage Gold Imperial
                   Finishes: Antique Natural, Vintage Sunburst
                   Pickup: None
                   Strings: Gibson Hydrophobic Bronze
                   Other Features: Venetian Cutaway
                   Pickguard has multiple binding and distinctive                                                 inlay

----------------------------------
See photo for the finish of the guitar in the raffle:
http://my.montana.net/aliceflynn/guitar.jpg

Alice


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Subject: RE: GIBSON Guitar Raffle, Funds for School
From: SINSULL
Date: 17 Dec 02 - 07:34 PM

seems to me it was a Mudcatter who won a Taylor or Martin at Old Songs this year. Maybe he started a trend. I will take two too, Alice.


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Subject: RE: GIBSON Guitar Raffle, Funds for School
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 17 Dec 02 - 08:39 PM

Hi Alice,

I imagine that they'd be happy enough to sell tickets to prople overseas? I'll contact them direct.

I'm being picky, but does it include a Gibson case?

Regards, John


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Subject: RE: GIBSON Guitar Raffle, Funds for School
From: Fortunato
Date: 17 Dec 02 - 09:16 PM

I may be a bit thick, but Alice what is the most expedient way to purchase a raffle ticket or two? PM me please with the method. I'll be happy to support your music program. What's Bozeman like this time of year? Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays. cheers, Chance.


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Subject: RE: GIBSON Guitar Raffle, Funds for School
From: Alice
Date: 18 Dec 02 - 12:51 AM

It finally snowed in Bozeman. You can see a photo of the location on the web site of the Gibson Montana Division, link above (where the custom acoustic guitars are made).

I'm going to talk to the person tomorrow who is in charge of the raffle and let them know that Pay Pal would be a good way to pay for raffle tickets for people living at long distance from here. I'll see if they will set up Pay Pal for an email address for the music dept. By the way, you don't have to be present to win when they do the drawing.

Since you have until the end of March to buy tickets, it should be no problem to purchase them by mail. Send an email and get the postal address and the details on sending a check.

I'll ask about the guitar case but I haven't seen a mention of it so far.

Alice


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Subject: RE: GIBSON Guitar Raffle, Funds for School
From: Alice
Date: 18 Dec 02 - 12:57 AM

I just realized there may be some legal issues regarding selling tickets out of state, too, but I will check on that tomorrow and get back to everyone with the info.

Alice


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Subject: RE: GIBSON Guitar Raffle, Funds for School
From: Tweed
Date: 18 Dec 02 - 06:54 AM

That's a beauty Alice!
Here's a link to that pic again and a refresh for those who've got fast scrollers and may have missed it the first time around.
*Click for a look.*

Worth every penny of a six dollar ticket and the odds of winning are better than the Florida Lotto too.


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Subject: RE: GIBSON Guitar Raffle, Funds for School
From: catspaw49
Date: 18 Dec 02 - 11:55 AM

Yep....I'll sign up. If I win, it goes up for sale immediately! Nice ax, but I could use the money!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: GIBSON Guitar Raffle, Funds for School
From: Alice
Date: 18 Dec 02 - 11:59 AM

As I posted last night, I am checking with the county attorney on how we can sell the tickets out of state and do it legally... gambling laws and all, you know.

Alice


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Subject: RE: GIBSON Guitar Raffle, Funds for School
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 18 Dec 02 - 12:03 PM

I sent an email to Marian Struble at the address Alice linked above. Here is her reply:

You may purchase tickets by mailing a check made out to BFOM and mailing it to Bozeman Public Schools Music Office at 404 W. Main, Bozeman, MT 59715. That is if you are in the US somewhere. We are currently checking on the legality of selling tickets overseas.

So, it is apparently legal for out-of-staters to buy tickets. Out of U.S. is still up in the air.

She didn't mention sending a stamped self-addressed envelope, but I think it would be an appropriate gesture.

Bruce
NOTE: See this message (click) - the county attorney says people out of state have to buy tickets through a proxy - Alice, for instance.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: GIBSON Guitar Raffle, Funds for School
From: Alice
Date: 18 Dec 02 - 06:27 PM

Hi, Bruce,
they will call me when they have the answer from the county attorney regarding selling tickets overseas. I volunteered to deal with mailing to Mudcatters and donate the postage cost to the Music Dept if that becomes a problem, especially for international mailing.

ALice


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Subject: RE: GIBSON Guitar Raffle, Funds for School
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 18 Dec 02 - 06:46 PM

Alice, I'm a rabid fund-raiser and wouln't want to see money 'wasted' on international postage. If and when tickets are available to overseas residents I'd be happy to not see a printed ticket - assuming that the evidence of sale was held in trust somewhere.

Regards, John


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Subject: RE: GIBSON Guitar Raffle, Funds for School
From: Alice
Date: 18 Dec 02 - 06:51 PM

Thanks, John, I'll be talking with the Music Dept head again and will mention that to her. Sending a self addressed envelope with payment would help, as Bruce suggested. I was also talking to one of the people today about using Pay Pal once we know where they legally stand regarding international sales.

Alice


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Subject: RE: GIBSON Guitar Raffle, Funds for School
From: Sorcha
Date: 18 Dec 02 - 07:03 PM

Even though I don't play guitar, I think I will order some. I'll do the SASE, thing, Alice.


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Subject: RE: GIBSON Guitar Raffle, Funds for School
From: Alice
Date: 18 Dec 02 - 07:14 PM

By the way, BFOM in their mailing address stands for "Bozeman Friends of Music" a group of volunteers (mostly parents of music students) that work to provide funds for music education from Kindergarten through 12th grade in the Bozeman Public Schools. The money goes to fund scholarships, trips for the orchestra, band or choirs to travel to a competition (they take turns each year rotating which group goes on a trip). Scholarships for kids are money to be applied toward workshops, lessons or instruments. My son last year applied for a scholarship to get a decent violin bow. He had to write an essay and get a recommendation from the orchestra teacher. The BFOM gave him a scholarship of $250 to apply to the purchase of a violin bow. He worked to get the rest of the money. Without this group of volunteers doing fund raising and giving their time to put on the spring talent show, the schools would not have the great music programs that they have now.

Thanks to all for your support.

Alice


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Subject: RE: GIBSON Guitar Raffle, Funds for School
From: SINSULL
Date: 18 Dec 02 - 07:14 PM

I will be happy to buy the tickets for overseas 'Catters, put them in a sealed envelope and live with the outcome. PM if you are interested and I will order the raffle tickets on DECEMBER 23 (trusting I will be reimbursed even by losers).
Mary


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Subject: RE: GIBSON Guitar Raffle, Funds for School
From: Alice
Date: 18 Dec 02 - 07:28 PM

Hi, Mary,
I'm sure the school wants to be careful about what they do with this legally. They certainly would be surprised to have to ship the guitar somewhere that it legally wasn't supposed to be won. So, I'm hoping this all works out that it is ok so sell out of the country. Today I was talking to the parent volunteer who is the head of the raffle committee and she was telling me that they had to be careful not to raffle something that was not over $5000 in value.

The Hawk's Night Live talent show where the drawing will be held is a HUGE event here in Bozeman. It runs two nights, is on the largest stage in town (same place the opera performs) and is always a sell out crowd - lots of students audition to be in, sometimes in more than one act between the two nights. It is the biggest fund raiser for the music department and is videotaped, done very well. Students from the speech class, dressed in tuxedos, do the MC job between acts. There is high tech lighting, stage set ups, etc. and it is amazing how professionally all these students turn out, including the stage crews. The MC guys are witty and entertaining, the acts creative and talented and wide ranging, from acting to arias to dance and more. An awesome jazz trio was one of the winners last year.

Many prizes are donated by the community for the prizes given on the two night event. The talent show is open only to the high school students.

The audience waits with bated breath to hear the winners announced and will, I am sure, be very interested this year in the Gibson raffle. I hope Gibson does this every year from now on!!

Alice


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Subject: RE: GIBSON Guitar Raffle, Funds for School
From: Alice
Date: 18 Dec 02 - 08:17 PM

By the way, I do know the WHOLESALE price was $2900.


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Subject: RE: GIBSON Guitar Raffle, How It Works
From: Alice
Date: 19 Dec 02 - 12:37 PM

UPDATE from the county attorney on how he set up this raffle for the school (yes, we can do it):


The buyers of raffle tickets must be in the state of Montana, but any buyer can be a PROXY for someone else in another state or country.
A written agreement between the proxy and the non-Montana buyer would state that the proxy will enter the purchased tickets in the name of the out of state buyer with the proxy's phone number. If the ticket wins, the proxy will be called and will answer, "I am the proxy for (winner's name)".

I am assured that it is legal for me to enter into a private agreement with anyone to be their proxy in buying raffle tickets for the guitar.

If you do want to buy tickets, I have a Pay Pal account which makes it very easy to purchase online from anywhere in the world. You could also mail a check if you prefer.

Send a personal message to me and I will send a statement that I will
be your proxy for the tickets puchased in your name. Print out a hard copy of my message that will include the ticket numbers.

I will be updating the info on the photo of the guitar to have instructions in how to contact me to act as a proxy buyer.

If anyone thinks this thread is too confusing for new readers to digest, maybe Joe or a clone can edit it down to the correct info on how this transaction will work.

Alice
To get tickets, if you are not in Montana,
contact me by personal message or by email at:

alice@aliceflynn.com


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Subject: RE: GIBSON Guitar Raffle, Funds for School
From: Joe Offer
Date: 20 Dec 02 - 01:43 AM

All you gamblers, please note updated raffle ticket ordering information in the first message, and in the message immediately above this one.
Good luck!
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: GIBSON Guitar Raffle, Funds for School
From: Alice
Date: 20 Dec 02 - 11:36 AM

Thanks, Joe. MUCH appreciated.


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Subject: RE: GIBSON Guitar Raffle, Funds for School
From: Alice
Date: 21 Dec 02 - 12:41 AM

In doing this proxy role, I am starting to get flashbacks to the movie Waking Ned Devine.


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Subject: RE: GIBSON Guitar Raffle, Funds for School
From: kendall
Date: 26 Dec 02 - 02:28 PM

Please don't mark me a wise guy, but, who says this is worth 5k ?


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Subject: RE: GIBSON Guitar Raffle, Funds for School
From: Alice
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 08:29 PM

Kendall, Gibson says it retails for $5,000.


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Subject: RE: GIBSON Guitar Raffle, Funds for School
From: Alice
Date: 21 Jan 03 - 11:42 AM


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Subject: RE: GIBSON Guitar Raffle, Funds for School
From: Alice
Date: 27 Jan 03 - 07:53 PM


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Subject: RE: GIBSON Guitar Raffle, Funds for School
From: Alice
Date: 05 Feb 03 - 03:44 PM

I will be going in to the office to get raffle tickets for new purchasers the end of this week.


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Subject: RE: GIBSON Guitar Raffle, Funds for School
From: SINSULL
Date: 05 Feb 03 - 05:41 PM

My check is in the mail. "Waking Ned Devine"? I'd rather not win if it means I am going to die...


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Subject: RE: GIBSON Guitar Raffle, Funds for School
From: Alice
Date: 27 Feb 03 - 08:23 PM

I will be going in to the school office again next week, the first week of March, to buy tickets for those of you sending funds.

Alice


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Subject: RE: GIBSON Guitar Raffle, Funds for School
From: Alice
Date: 02 Mar 03 - 03:26 PM


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Subject: RE: GIBSON Guitar Raffle, Funds for School
From: artbrooks
Date: 02 Mar 03 - 04:29 PM

2 tickets for Jenn, please...Paypal on the way.


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Subject: RE: GIBSON Guitar Raffle, Funds for School
From: Peg
Date: 02 Mar 03 - 04:48 PM

I just sent you $$ for two tix via paypal, too. Good luck everyone!


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Subject: RE: GIBSON Guitar Raffle, Funds for School
From: SINSULL
Date: 02 Mar 03 - 04:57 PM

I've got mine. Good luck, everyone.


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Subject: RE: GIBSON Guitar Raffle, Funds for School
From: Alice
Date: 23 Mar 03 - 07:22 PM

This week is the last chance to get raffle tickets for the Gibson guitar. Contact me if you want them.

Alice


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Subject: THE WINNER..GIBSON Guitar Raffle
From: Alice
Date: 30 Mar 03 - 10:36 AM

The drawing was held last night on the second night of Hawk's Night Live, the annual talent showcase,
And the Winner is...

Fern Hoolan.

(Not a Mudcatter, but I had my fingers crossed for all of you.)

Thank you to everyone who participated to support the Bozeman school music program. The money raised goes to scholarships for students to attend music camps and music lessons or help in purchasing instruments or instrument repair. Mudcatters contributed $270 to the raffle, and the funds are GREATLY APPRECIATED. There are video/DVD recordings of the two night performances if anyone is interested in seeing the talented young musicians. Contact http://www.bozeman.k12.mt.us/music/ for information on how to get a video or DVD. One young man sang his original song, Dreaming Shoes - powerful lyrics, had me close to tears.

From original compositions to classical concertos to Santana and jazz, the high school student performers were excellent. There were 48 performances over the two nights involving hundreds of students.
Thank you all!!

Sincerely,

Alice


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Subject: RE: GIBSON Guitar Raffle, Funds for School
From: SINSULL
Date: 30 Mar 03 - 10:52 AM

But where is MY guitar?????

Thanks for the update, Alice. Hope Fern enjoys it.


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