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Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge

Charley Noble 03 Jan 03 - 06:24 PM
Genie 03 Jan 03 - 07:06 PM
Bee-dubya-ell 03 Jan 03 - 07:40 PM
Charley Noble 03 Jan 03 - 07:58 PM
Amos 03 Jan 03 - 08:53 PM
Leadfingers 03 Jan 03 - 09:03 PM
Charley Noble 03 Jan 03 - 09:20 PM
mg 03 Jan 03 - 09:58 PM
Dead Horse 03 Jan 03 - 11:13 PM
mg 03 Jan 03 - 11:45 PM
Dead Horse 04 Jan 03 - 12:56 AM
Genie 04 Jan 03 - 02:44 AM
fogie 04 Jan 03 - 04:10 AM
greg stephens 04 Jan 03 - 05:34 AM
Ship'scat 04 Jan 03 - 06:58 AM
Dead Horse 04 Jan 03 - 09:15 AM
Charley Noble 04 Jan 03 - 09:33 AM
Charley Noble 04 Jan 03 - 09:56 AM
SINSULL 04 Jan 03 - 10:08 AM
raredance 04 Jan 03 - 10:37 AM
raredance 04 Jan 03 - 10:41 AM
Charley Noble 04 Jan 03 - 11:45 AM
Keith A of Hertford 04 Jan 03 - 11:55 AM
Schantieman 04 Jan 03 - 12:58 PM
Charley Noble 04 Jan 03 - 01:12 PM
JennyO 04 Jan 03 - 01:24 PM
Charley Noble 04 Jan 03 - 02:01 PM
mg 04 Jan 03 - 02:50 PM
Keith A of Hertford 04 Jan 03 - 02:53 PM
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Subject: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Charley Noble
Date: 03 Jan 03 - 06:24 PM

Dear Mudcatters-

To while away the winter season I thought I'd make a list of animal songs, where the animal in question, wild or domesticated, is the principal focus. Although I recognize that humans are animals I'm not really interested in them, nor in the regular nautical animals.

Here's my personal list, most of which I've posted previously on Mudcat in some fashion:

1 "Cowardly Act" by Charlie Ipcar
2 "Dead Horse Shanty" by TRAD
3 "Hen Overboard" by Peter Tristam Coffin
4 "Long Time Ago" (Noah's Ark) by TRAD
5 "Mollymauk" by Bob Watson
6 "Old Horse" by TRAD
7 "Owl & the Pussycat"
8 "Rescue of Ship's Cat" by Charlie Ipcar
9 "Rodent Mariners" by Hamish Maclaren

Note, there appear to be no songs staring sheep, pigs, geese, turkeys, turtles, llamas, snakes or other reptiles, insects, kangaroos, bats, wombats, raccoons, dinosaurs, lions, tigers, leopards, elephants, just to name a few. Yes, I'm aware that a few songs have animal titles such as "Aboard the Kangaroo" but a kangaroo is not featured as an animal in the song – no credit for such submissions!

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Genie
Date: 03 Jan 03 - 07:06 PM

Charley, how can you omit "Dead Dog Cider?"!! I know, it's not about the sea, but it IS about a large body of liquid, after all! *BG*

Genie

PS,[thread drift]
got to spend New Year's Eve with Marguerite and other folkies in a jam-session party. Lots of fun.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 03 Jan 03 - 07:40 PM

You can get all the animal related songs in the DT by going to the "Lyrics and Knowledge Search" box and typing in "@animal".

Bruce


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Charley Noble
Date: 03 Jan 03 - 07:58 PM

Bruce-

Thanks for your suggestion. Maybe you'd like to set up the query for "Animals at Sea" with the qualifications above.

Genie-

Nice to hear from you again, and "Dead Dog Cider" doesn't rise to the top of this list. Glad to hear that Cousin Marguerite is still attending song swaps.

Charley Noble


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Subject: Lyr Add: SEA COWS
From: Amos
Date: 03 Jan 03 - 08:53 PM

Well, Charlie, here's a tale for you, although it may be disqualified as "regular" nautical animals....

SEA COWS



(Tune: Angels (Robbie Williams) )

 

I sit and wait; do manatees define my fate?
And do they know the places where we go
When we're grey and old?
'Cause I have been told
That hot springs let their minds unfold
So when I'm lying in my night,
Thoughts I hope will make things right
And I feel that love is dead, I'm loving manatees instead.

And through it all they offer me compassion
Tolerant and kind affection, whether I'm right or wrong
And down the river course, wherever it may lead
My heart will never bleed
And she will answer, and that is all I need
I'm loving manatee instead.

When I'm feeling pale or gray
And my pain becomes a runaway
I look to sea and I know
I always will be free
And as it grows, she breathes things only sea-cows know,
And when love is dead, I'm loving manatee instead

And through it all they offer me compassion
Tolerant and kind affection, whether I'm right or wrong
And down the river course, wherever it may lead
My heart will never bleed
And she will answer, all I need
I'm loving manatee instead.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Leadfingers
Date: 03 Jan 03 - 09:03 PM

I know its NOT at sea song but the Drover's Dream gets a fair few Australian Beasties in,though NOT a kangaroo.So Clancy where the hell are the flaming Sheep?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Charley Noble
Date: 03 Jan 03 - 09:20 PM

Maybe we need to write some new ones for all the missing beastie mariners!

I do seem to remember a long poem about a circus steamer that went down in Penobscot Bay back in the 19th century.

How 'bout the two weevils meeting each other in the middle of a sea biscuit; we could write a song about the lessor of the two.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: mg
Date: 03 Jan 03 - 09:58 PM

one more river..

Irish Rover..dog drowns


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Dead Horse
Date: 03 Jan 03 - 11:13 PM

Derby Ram (there's ya sheep, Bluey)
Donkey Riding
Old Moke (Pickin on a Banjo)
Hogs Eye
Wild Goose
Any number of *Bullies*
......and does a Mermaid count as half a fish?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: mg
Date: 03 Jan 03 - 11:45 PM

Has anyone ever put some of the verses to the Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner to music? There's the Albatross. mg


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Dead Horse
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 12:56 AM

What flavour is it?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Genie
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 02:44 AM

How about that *%!@*! "Unicorn" song that all the Irish groups hate? "...the waters rose up and just floated them away...".

And, Charley:
"Dead Dog Cider" doesn't rise to the top of this list.
GROOAANNNNN!!

¤'-)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: fogie
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 04:10 AM

I know one about sheep at sea which might be Clare ,but I'm afraid I'm the worst at organising and remembering. I heard it sung in Oswestry I think ten years or so ago and it became a firm favourite. It has an eery quality which makes me think of all those mid-europeans going to concentration camps. Excuse my lines, and I can't put down the music either.

Once when I was down in Baltimore,
A man came round to me and cried,
See I have 18,hundred sheep,
And we must sail on the morning tide,

And if you'll sail with me young man,
50 guineas I'd lay down,
These 1800 sheep I take ,
From Baltimore to glasgow town.

He paid me 5o gns down,
I sailed with 1800 sheep,
And soon we'd left the harbour ground ,
And rolled upon the endless deep.

The first night we were on the sea,
Those sheep were peaceful in their minds
The second night they cried for fear,
They smelt no pastures on the wind.

They cried poor things for their dear green hills,
They cried so loud I couldn't sleep,
For 50 thousand guineas now,
I wouldn't sail again with sheep

rept 1st vs.

I think this qualifies


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: greg stephens
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 05:34 AM

This is a bit vague, but a famous cow got dropped in the sea off a ferry in the outer hebrides a while ago, and swam ashore some considerable distance away. And someone definitely wrote a song about it. More than that I cant remember.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Ship'scat
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 06:58 AM

Sparkey asks "Where we goin', boys?". The mate replies

"Oh, we're bound for the Hamburg show [off to the Hamburg Zoo] [wild west show],
To see the elephant and the wild kangaroo,
An' we'll all stick together
In fair or foul weather,
For we're going to see the damn show through!"

"And in this corner we have the lion, the only pussy that eats you", etc

Definately found at sea by John Dos Passos in 1920


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Dead Horse
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 09:15 AM

And there are always *Black Sheep* the euphomism for the slave trade.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Charley Noble
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 09:33 AM

Not a bad harvest considering the challenge!

Dead Horse-

"Darby Ram": a shanty?
"Donkey Riding": a fine traditional shanty
"Ol' Moke": "moke" IS slang for a mule but I suspect the reference is to a black man playing on the banjo
"Hog Eye": a bit of a stretch
"Wild Goose Shanty": well, sure, why not?

Mary- good catch on "Wild Rover"!

Fogie- you certainly deserve major credit for cotributing a traditional sea song featuring 1800 sheep on the deep! Wow! Any clue to the tune?

Ship'scat- Never knew that "The Wild West Show" ever made it out to sea.

I expected someone to mention Lyle Lovett's song about "the pony in the boat"

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Charley Noble
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 09:56 AM

I suppose I should post at least one verse of the Lovett song:

If I had a boat
I'd go out on the ocean
And if I had a pony
I'd ride him on my boat
And we could all together
Go out on the ocean
Me upon my pony on my boat.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble, who has nothing better to do this day but shovel snow


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: SINSULL
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 10:08 AM

Charlie, Didn't you sing the song about a cow falling out of the sky and landing on a Japanese fishing boat?


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Subject: Lyr Add: OLD HOSS
From: raredance
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 10:37 AM

Here's a variant to Old Horse. It is from the manuscript "Chanties and Other Songs of the Sea" recalled by William H Smith of Liverpool, Nova Scotia. Mr. Smith was born in 1867. The lyrics were taken down and typed by his son in 1940. The first verse is similar to the Martin Carthy version. The sailor's ration of usually salt beef or pork was known as "salt horse" to the sailor's. A mocking jest to be sure, but who is to say it was never true. Maybe the modern day equivalent was the "McDonald's uses kangaroo meat in their burgers" rumor some years ago. Doerflinger has commented that before the meat was cooked it sas "soaked for days in the 'harness cask' on deck, to make it edible.". According to Edith Fowke, verses like these were often chanted when the meat was served and were sometimes called "The Sailor's Grace".

OLD HOSS

Old Hoss, old hoss, how came you here?
You've carted poles for many a year.
With kicks and cuffs and sore abuse,
You're salted down for sailor's use.

From the foremast to the pump
You'll find me salted down in junks;
Now I think i'm donw at last,
But if you think I lie,
You'll find my hoof in the bottom of the harness cask.


rich r


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: raredance
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 10:41 AM

The of course there's the dog in Sailor's Burial at Sea.

"Our bark was out far, far from land..."

rich r


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Charley Noble
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 11:45 AM

Rich-

Nice version of "Old Horse" and I'm sure your "bark" pun is worse than the "bite" the poor dog was buried in.

Cheerily.
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 11:55 AM

Chicken on a raft, by Cyril Tawny.
Also, The Hartlepool Monkey was a seafarer before he washed ashore.
Keith


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Schantieman
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 12:58 PM

And then there was the dog that fell overboard at Cowes a few months ago and swam 10 miles or so back up the Hamble.

Did you ever see a wild goose sailing 'cross the ocean?

Jolly difficult pulling on all those ropes using your wings.

Steve


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE RODENT MARINERS
From: Charley Noble
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 01:12 PM

Sinsull- "Cowardly Act" listed above is the title to my song about the cow that sank a Japanese fishing trawler.

Here's the lyrics to a song about sea rats by the same composer as the one I got "Yangtse River Shanty" from:

By Hamish MacLaren, Sailor with Banjo, © 1930
Adapted by Charlie Ipcar
Tune adapted from: "Blow the Candle Out"


THE RODENT MARINERS

Dm-------Am----Dm
We are the rodent ma-ri-ne-ers,
Am/Dm---Am
As nobody needs be told,
------------Dm----Am--------Dm
For there's no mis-taking our nau-ti-cal airs,
Am/Dm---Am-----Dm
Our rolling eyes so bold;
Dm-------------------Am
There's never a ship leaves English ground,
------Dm----------------Am
From Liverpool Docks to Plymouth Sound,
----Dm---Am---Dm
For Frisco Bay or Bombay bound,
--------------Am--------Dm
But we have free run of her hold!


We march aboard in companies,
All in the dead of night,
Over the hawsers from the quays
In the shadow of the watch lamplight;
Each roving rat his ship will choose,
From nose to nose we pass the news
Of cargoes, destination, crews,
And none can us affright.

Each roving rat his ship will choose,
From nose to nose we pass the news
Of cargoes, destination, crews,
And none can us affright.

We'll eat like kings once we set sail,
Each vessel leaving land,
A wandering larder which entails
A feast for every hand;
Maize, apples, salmon, barley, rice,
Nutmegs, olives, South Sea spice,
Meats and India merchandise,
And all at our command!

We know the ports of all the world
All warehouses, all quays,
All islets coral-ringed and pearled,
The Blue Hesperides;
And men may search until they die,
And men may blow great fleets sky-high –
But rats alone can hold for aye
The Freedom of the Seas!

And men may search until they die,
And men may blow great fleets sky-high –
But rats alone can hold for aye
The Freedom of the Seas!

This is the kind of ballad I'm really looking for.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble, and it's still snowing!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: JennyO
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 01:24 PM

"Dead Puppies" - The words I know are somewhat different from the ones on the digitrad:

Dead puppies aren't much fun
When you call them they don't come
Dead puppies aren't much fun.

When you pick them up they sag
When you go for walks they drag
Dead puppies aren't much fun.

                        that's all I know and probably just as well!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Charley Noble
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 02:01 PM

JennyO- no points for "animals at sea" as it stands but maybe we can adapt this one for warping the ship into the dock. It's definitely belongs in the "warped" sea shanty category.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: mg
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 02:50 PM

the camp song..God said to Noah going to build me an arky arky..build it out of cedar? Hickory? barkey children of the Lord

the animals they came by ones and toosies..elephants and kangaroosies..

mg


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 02:53 PM

Rodent Mariners reminds me of Stanley The Rat, also by Cyril Tawny


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Subject: Lyr Add: SALT HORSE
From: SINSULL
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 03:12 PM

And still another variant of "Old Horse". This comes from my Secret Santa gift, "50 Sailor Songs Or Chanties", Londin, Boosey & Co. (no author; no date). Notes as appear in the book.

            SALT HORSE

Salt Horse, Salt Horse, both near and far
You're food for every hard work'd tar.
In strongest brine you have been sunk,
Until as hard and coarse as Junk.*
To eat such tough and wretched fare
Would whiten e'en a nigger's hair.
Salt Horse, Salt Horse, what brought you here?

Salt Horse, Salt Horse, we'd have you know
That to the Galley** you must go;
The cook without a sign of grief
Will boil you down, and call you beef.
And, we poor sailors standing near,
Must eat you though you look so queer;
Salt Horse, Salt Horse, what brought you here?

*Old condemned rope
**The cookhouse on shipboard


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 04:00 PM

Someone else will have to write the song (Charley, you're good at that), but author Rumer Godden told a story about her father aboard a ship loaded with elephants. This was before the days of radio or other communication and could have resulted in the ship going down (in the Indian Ocean as I remember) with no one knowing why. Anywho, the elephants all started swaying from side to side in unison in their stalls. The ship was saved when someone (I think her father) switched every other elephant around in their stalls, thus counteracting the sway of the others.

Linn


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Charley Noble
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 04:44 PM

Whew! For a while there, Linn, I thought you were going to suggest that the survivors floated away in the trunks...

Nice one, Sinsull!

And, Keith, thanks for reminding me of "Stanley The Rat"; it certainly belongs in this collection.

I'm now laborously typing out the verses to "The Fate of the Royal Tar", the saga of the circus steamer that burnt and sank. It's all terribly long, totally unsingable, BUT it's got all them animals in it, few of which survive.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble, who's admiring his freshly plowed driveway


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Dead Horse
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 06:01 PM

Charley Noble: Derby Ram (as shanty)given in Hugill (Shanties from the Seven Seas)p328, collected by Colcord (as forebitter)
Hugill states pumps & sometimes capstan. (Never uses it meself, arghh)
*Old Horse* (Sailors Grace)tradition was well known & documented, and the barrel used to store the beef in was known as a *horse cask* which is another reason for sailors to suppose he was eating Dobbin for dinner;-)
Old Moke definately referred to negroes, not donkeys. And of course Donkey Riding itself had nothing to do with sailors enjoying a run along the beach astride any animals! (tho I have been known to suggest this, just to see what reaction I get from an audience)
Now then, hows about another doggy offering,
Boney was a warrior, (a warrior, a terrier?)
.............running away, giggling insanely.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Charley Noble
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 07:17 PM

Thanks, Dead Horse, for the chapter and verse on "Derby Ram", "Old Horse" and "Old Moke."

And here's a bone for your terrior!

I've been reconsidering mermaids/mermen and they simply don't fit in. There're half people and half fish and either way would be disqualified.

How about a nice goat song?

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Dead Horse
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 09:19 PM

What do you mean *They don't fit in*? At 36 28 3/6d a pound, they fit.
Goats?
Billy Riley?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: SINSULL
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 10:34 PM

Unsinkable or unsingeable????? Or unsingable?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: JennyO
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 10:59 PM

I hit the Submit Message button last night, then went to bed. At some point I woke up and thought - "Dead Puppies" weren't at sea - they're gonna shoot me down in flames AAAAAAARRRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!

So now you've forced me to do this.........

I didn't wanna do it..........honest!!!!!

When you throw them off a boat
They don't swim and they don't float
Dead puppies....aren't much fun.

No animals were harmed in the making of this song - I promise!!!!


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Subject: Lyr Add: SWING A CAT (Meg Davis)
From: MikeOQuinn
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 11:01 PM

Hrmmm... *rummages through his Corsairs shanty library*

There's the "Irish Rover", a wonderfully punny song.

Then there's Tom Lewis' "Sailor's Prayer" (Cho: "Lord above, send down a dove, with beak as sharp as razors/ to cut the throats of them there blokes, what sells bad beer to sailors")

There's also "Swing a Cat" (no lyrics in DB, but a Req in the forums, reproduced below for your convenience), with cats and rats both included (not to mention sailors, flea-ridden beasts that they are :)

SWING A CAT
Meg Davis

It was just after midnight that I heard the captain shout
"Curse the Devil! Behold! There are rats about!"
They were crawling up the gangplank, they were climbing up the sheets
Every sailor had a hundred snapping at his feet
"What can we do?" cried the sailors as the rats began to dance
"It's a hopeless situation, but we have one chance.
Every man go ashore, searching this way and that.
Don't ever show your face until you find a cat."

Cho:
Swing it high, swing it low, if it hollers let it go
If it's down, there's only one way to take care of that
You must grab it by its feet, swing it high, swing it neat
You can save a life, at that, if you can swing a cat

So we sprang to the docks and we bolted through the town,
Every young man among us searching up and down
Three hundred sailors running loose, what do you think of that?
And every salty sailor surely found a cat
Back to the docks we came running with our prizes,
There were cats of many colors, there were cats of many sizes
When they rats saw us coming, they all began to shout
"Curse the devil! Behold! There are cats about!"

So we turned our kitties loose upon that unsuspecting horde,
While the rats by the thousands scrambled overboard
They were swept out to sea, every germy little tail
And the sun rose upon us as we hoisted sail
Now we sail the mighty ocean, and we're such a happy crew
With our kitties here to help us, there is nothing much to do
If a cat has two fishies, he will surely give you one,
And he'll sing you off to sleep when your day is done


Heh... my cat heard that song start, and bolted to the other room... I think she's learning.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: raredance
Date: 05 Jan 03 - 12:16 AM

The Owl and the Pussycat by Edward Lear was melodized and recorded by the Simon Sisters.

rich r


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Ship'scat
Date: 05 Jan 03 - 09:29 AM

Aha - More noble beasts

"I'm dirty and lousy and full of fleas
Said Barnable Bill the Sailor"

(louses and fleas count as two)

"In the progress of civilization
From anthropoind apes down to man
The palm is awarded the Navy
For frigging whatever it can.

Exhaustive experimentation
By Darwin and Huxley and Hall
Has proved that the ass of the hedgehog
Can hardly be buggered at all

We therefore believe our conclusion
Is incontrovertibly shown:
Comparative safety on shipboard
Is enjoyed by the hedgehog alone"

Heather Wood's Hedgehog Song goes on to add verses dedicated to other potential animal "targets" to include the:

bear, horse, donkey, ox, fox, shrew, asp, wasp, elephant, bee, termite, beetle, ladyird, cat, rabbit, ermine, rat, mouse, roach, dog, giraffe, yeti, fly, cow, boar, piglet, stoat, sow, ram, ewe, tiger, seal, eel, crab, bat, snake, quetzal, billy, nanny, kid, slug, snail

That's 42 animals not counting the anthropoidal ape and the hedgehod himself.

Interestingly enough Heather doesn't connect her piece back to the Naval reference.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Charley Noble
Date: 05 Jan 03 - 10:37 AM

Too many incoming to deal with!

I think Mike O Quinn's contribution "Swing a Cat" by Meg Davis deserves special mention for being right on target. Any Jenny-O has, indeed, redeemed herself with her new verse for "Dead Puppies."

The other contributions fall into the category of incidental mentioning of animals, rather than full stories. To these I would add "Rolling Down to Rio" with its "dillying with an armadillo", "Wreck of the Athens Queen" with its cow on a sofa being rowed ashore as salvage, and the shanty "Boston Harbor" with its chorus of "big bow-wow".

And, no credit to Dead Horse for suggesting "Billy Riley" as a goat shanty when we all know that Billy Riley was a dancing master, with an oh so lovely daughter. Now if you can send "Bill Broghan's Goat" out to sea, lash him down on a wave in the path of an Exxon tanker, then, just maybe we might grant credit. What do you all think?

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: Lyr Add: I HAD A HIPPOPOTAMUS (Patrick Barrington)
From: COINWOLF
Date: 05 Jan 03 - 02:24 PM

The alternative Hippopotamus song should not be forgotten, but who is the author?


I had a Hippopotamus, I kept him in a shed,
I fed him up on vitamins and vegetable bread,
I made him my companion on many a cheery walk
And had his portait taken by a celebrity in chalk.

His charming eccentricities was known on every side
The creature's popularity was wonderfully wide
He frolicked with the Rector in a dozen friendly tussles
Who couldn't but remark upon his hippopotamuscles

If he should be afflicted by depression or the dumps,
By hippopotameasles or hippopotamumps,
I never knew a particle of peace till it was plain,
He was hippopotamasticating properly again.

I had a hippopotamus, I loved him like a friend
But beautiful relationships are bound to have an end
Time takes alas our joys from us and robs us of our blisses
My hippopotamus turned out a hippopotamisses.

My housekeeper regarded him with jaundice in her eye
She didn't want a colony of hippopotami
She borowed a machine gun from her soldier nephew Percy
Who showed my hippopotamus no hippopotamercy

My house now lacks the glamour that the charming creature gave,
The garage where I kept him is as silent as the grave,
No longer he displays amongst the motor tyres and spanners,
His hippopotamastery of hippopotamisses

No longer does he gambol in the orchard in the spring,
No longer do I lead him through the village on a string,
No longer in the mornings does the neighbourhood rejoice,
To his hippopotamusically modulated voice.

I had a hippopotamus, but nothing upon earth,
Is lasting in its happiness or constant in its mirth
No joy that life can give me can be strong enough to smother,
My sorrow for what might have been a hippopotamother

I had a hippopotamus, I loved him like a friend
But beautiful relationships are bound to have an end
Time will take alas the joy from you, and rob you of your blisses
When your hippopotamus turns out a hippopotamisses.

If you know where this came from please let us know.
Trying to trace owner, nearest known source in Cheltenham Uk, but furthest source to date in Connnecticut, USA

Festival Cat
www.uptonfolk.org


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Amos
Date: 05 Jan 03 - 02:30 PM

I think that second hippopotamisses should be hippopotamanners, no?

A


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: fogie
Date: 06 Jan 03 - 06:32 AM

Is this any use to you. It's my crude attempt at ABC for SHEEP
in C more or less one not per syllable

C C B A G G A3 G G4
A A A G3 G C d e/d/C d4
f f f e3 C A3 G G4
A A A G3 G/G A B C4 fill in instr between vs.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Charley Noble
Date: 06 Jan 03 - 08:43 AM

Well, I added the Hippo song to my burgeoning collections of such songs (which includes "I Dreamed I was a Hippopotamus" as sung by Hilary Spencer of Artisan) BUT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SEA. Unless, of course, it's in the key of C...

Thanks, Fogie, for the ABC's; I'll spread them out on a napkin and see what I can make of them. Don't suppose there is a similar traditional tune you could suggest?

My mother was muttering that apart from "Rolling Down to Rio" we were ignoring a wealth of other Kipling poems with domestic animals at sea. I'm sure at the age of 86 her mind is playing tricks with her. She often comes up with brilliant "Kipling poems", only to confess later that she's rewritten them in her sleep.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Dead Horse
Date: 06 Jan 03 - 11:49 AM

So! Your mother Kipples! What a noble pasttime;-)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 06 Jan 03 - 12:48 PM

What, no mention yet of Tom Lewis's "Bunts" the sea-going dog?

~ Becky in landlocked Tucson


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Charley Noble
Date: 06 Jan 03 - 12:58 PM

Becky-

Because people of good taste have deleted Tom's yarn from their memories? Nahhh! Thanks, for the suggestion.;~)

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Dead Horse
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 08:28 AM

On Baggyrinkle CD they do "A Pound And A Pint" but it wasn't about a dog pound, unfortunately, or I would post it;-)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Animals at Sea Song Challenge
From: Charley Noble
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 08:34 AM

Well, Dead Horse, we might save that one for singing during the "dog watches," assuming they haven't been curtailed again!

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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