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Lyr Add: Around Baghdad (parody Around Nashville)
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: wysiwyg Date: 11 Apr 03 - 09:23 AM To catch up on unanswered items-- The "Ten Posts" comment was a hastily-worded (and poorly stated) reference to the phenomenon that music threads often don't get much posting action till they have hit 10 posts.... at that point it often seems that a thread title that one has seen numerous times, but not opened, suddenly looks "interesting." "Hm, it's catching on; wonder what I'm missing... think I'll have a look." A lot of good music threads are very short. Not saying this is a good one-- don't care if people think so or not, really. :~) Lent is a pretty busy time of year around my house. You can't really assume I'll see or react to any individual post, and if I don't respond, the silence may have no particular meaning. So if one is of a mind to, one can go ahead and have a field day sniping at me and making up things one would like to argue about. Or, of course, one could create a verse for the song.... Oh, and that one about the sewing circle provided a good, deep laugh at our place.... I don't tend to consult ours about much of anything; rather the reverse. But it was a good laugh, and I'm grateful for it. I don't have any new verses at the moment. If I did I would post them, if I had time. ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: clansfolk Date: 11 Apr 03 - 05:08 AM The oil is all burning in Iraq The oil is all burning in Iraq Don't let it burn away Or they'd be no need to stay or go there anyway, to Iraq |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 11 Apr 03 - 01:04 AM She would shag for chad in ol Bagdad; With the troops she was hit. Like an over loose, goosed mongose What we saw was what we'd get. What we saw was what we'd get.
Sincerely,
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: GUEST,Surfer Dude Date: 09 Apr 03 - 11:22 PM Is hang one anything like hang ten? |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: GUEST Date: 09 Apr 03 - 11:20 PM Well she did pass threads don't get posts till they're over ten posts.
With any luck, this one could hang one through summer. |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 09 Apr 03 - 11:17 PM Hey - Wyzy
Given Wednesday's events in Bagdad....don't you have another musical verse to add>?
Sincerely
I'll check through my photo album....if it's photos of MudCatters that bring you inspiration...perhaps one of my best shots can give you a PM highlight for the weekend. |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: The Shambles Date: 08 Apr 03 - 05:07 PM THE FIDDLE AND THE DRUM And so once again My dear Johnny my dear friend And so once again you are fightin' us all And when I ask you why You raise your sticks and cry, and I fall Oh, my friend How did you come To trade the fiddle for the drum You say I have turned Like the enemies you've earned But I can remember All the good things you are And so I ask you please Can I help you find the peace and the star Oh, my friend What time is this To trade the handshake for the fist And so once again Oh, America my friend And so once again You are fighting us all And when we ask you why You raise your sticks and cry and we fall Oh, my friend How did you come To trade the fiddle for the drum You say we have turned Like the enemies you've earned But we can remember All the good things you are And so we ask you please Can we help you find the peace and the star Oh my friend We have all came To fear the beating of your drum Joni Mitchell |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: Bearheart Date: 08 Apr 03 - 12:39 PM Don, Really grateful for your long post and info in it. A friend from the Christian Peacekeepers Team just returned home from Baghdad (to Athens OHio) a few days ago. I went to hear her speak about her experiences in Baghdad where she has been since October. Both chilling and thoughtprovoking. She volunteered in an orphanage for handicapped children, spent much time in the bazaars and with people on the street, and saw first hand the bombs falling and so on. The US has been bombing (children's) hospitals and other civilian targets. Food is scarce, many basic hospital supplies non-existent. There are many who die of routine respiratory and other illnesses for lack of medical supplies. No anaesthetics available for even the simplest procedures. Yet all the people who were there as part of the team were treated kindly and with respect by all.The ordinary citizens know the difference between the American people and the American government. This isn't thread creep-- just some fuel for people more gifted than I in the songwriting department. By the way, official stats on death of children due to sanctions since the Gulf War (UNICEF) 1/2 MILLION. Most of it because they could not get needed medicines. The rate of death due to leukemia 4-7 times the rate before the Gulf War. Bekki |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: GUEST,John Gray in Oz Date: 07 Apr 03 - 11:49 PM The friendly fire is hot and thick round Baghdad, The friendly fire is hot and thick round Baghdad, We've downed two British fighters claimed Khalid, Now that's a lie said Bush - coz we did. The friendly fire is hot and thick round Baghdad. JG / FME |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 07 Apr 03 - 11:21 PM Oh WYSI, oh wysi....step back...let your better-half do the postings!!!!
Your mind is not made up about the war...but you are waiting.... For What?someone seems to think they know my position on this war.... interesting, since I don't, yet, myself
1. To see if the coalition is victorious?
James 1:6,8
Sincerely,
Surely, Thomas Paine had your kindred soul in mind when he spoke of the summer soldier and the sunshine patriot who shrink from the service of their country. |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: robomatic Date: 07 Apr 03 - 07:18 PM Let us not leave out that dubious but fun musical of the mid 50's: "Kismet" starring Alfred Drake and sort of a blend of plots not directly based on but rather inspired by such drolleries as Arabian Nights, Sheherazade, and (wait for it) Thief of Baghdad, to some original music (well known song came out of it: "Baubles, bangles, and beads") Most of the music was ripped off of Borodin's opera "Prince Igor" and other of his works. A semi (in)appropriate song from early in the show, a mood-setter goes: "Baghdad, don't underestimate Baghdad, A city rich in romantic oriental lore.... . . . Bagdad, you should investigate Baghdad"! robo |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: GUEST,Q Date: 07 Apr 03 - 05:38 PM "Bagdad" was also a song in the revue "Sinbad," words by Harold Atterridge and music by Sigmund Romberg and Al Jolson, 1918. Lyrics dull, not worth reproducing. Sheet music in the Levy Collection. Better lyrics showing up here. |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: Rustic Rebel Date: 07 Apr 03 - 05:13 PM The sky is black with smoke around Baghdad The sky is black with smoke around Baghdad. War is not a pretty sight The birds are hindered from their flight Burning oil is our plight around Baghdad. Peace. Rustic |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: GUEST,Q Date: 07 Apr 03 - 04:54 PM That was 1775! |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: GUEST,Q Date: 07 Apr 03 - 02:50 PM Yep, New York City wasn't much in 1875, only some 23000 citizens in the census. The influential towns were Boston and Philadelphia. Much of the trouble in the Middle East really started after the WW 1 Allies carved up the Turkish Empire. Lines were drawn which had little basis in cohesive social, political or economic realities. The destruction of the Palestinian State and the imposition of Israel in 1949 finished the wrecking job. Kuwait (formerly Kowait), the most important port in the area, was "protected" by the British in 1914, creating another source of rancour in what is now Iraq. The present Iraqi port nearby had to be started from scratch. Many Iraqis, regardless of political stripe, would like to regain Kuwait; Saddam's ill-fated and poorly thought out move in the 1990s was supported by many Iraquis. |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 07 Apr 03 - 11:39 AM I suppose Baghdad was a town in Turkey in 1912 the same way Dublin was a town in England around the same time, or New York was a quaint provincial English city around 1775... |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: Grab Date: 07 Apr 03 - 10:10 AM Wrong song, but it brought this to mind... All around Baghdad I will wear Kevlar armour, All around Baghdad forever and a day, And if anyone should ask me the reason why I'm wearing it, It's all for George Dubya, who sent me to Kuwait. |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: Rick Fielding Date: 07 Apr 03 - 10:08 AM Don....Thanks so much for all that effort. I really appreciate it. Makes for interesting reading, but sadly, allows so much 'wiggle' room, that I can easily relate many of the positions to those in the VERY old ballad "The Vicar of Bray". Cheers Rick |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: GUEST,Hawker Date: 07 Apr 03 - 04:44 AM There's a war now going on in Baghdad There's a war now going on in Baghdad Whether you're for war or peace I doubt it's going to cease The death toll will increase - Its bloody sad. |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: Kaleea Date: 07 Apr 03 - 02:49 AM So I was recently doing a sing-a-long in an Alzheimers unit of a local nursing home. The staff was particularly wanting to try to have activities to keep the folks away from the war coverage on TV which caused quite alot of uneasyness among the residents. I noticed (& this is for real!) that one lady was singing with particular enthusiasm: "East side, West side, all around Baghdad . . ." |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: GUEST,Arnie Date: 06 Apr 03 - 09:27 PM Can't find no WMD In Around Baghdad Can't find no WMD In Around Baghdad Told the world it was so Now it's almost time to go At least we got some oil In Around Baghdad |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: mg Date: 06 Apr 03 - 09:20 PM pretty hateful stuff. mg |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: GUEST Date: 06 Apr 03 - 08:38 PM Oh the yanks they shoot the yanks in Baghdad Oh the yanks they shoot the yanks in Baghdad It matters not if day or night They can't seem to get it right And their aim's a load of shite in Baghdad! They say the war is wrong in Baghdad Yes say the war is wrong in Baghdad There's claim and counterclaim 'bout that tyrant called Hussain Will it again be all in vain in Baghdad? |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: Mr. Green Genes Date: 06 Apr 03 - 08:37 PM You can't find a cold beer down in Baghdad There just isn't any cold beer down in Baghdad All the bars stay open 24 hours But not a one has any power No you just can't find a cold beer down in Baghdad All the whores they where bourkas down in Baghdad You just can't trust the whores down in Baghdad It might be her sister or her momma or a suicide bomber It's best to pass on the whores down in Baghdad |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: GUEST,Q Date: 06 Apr 03 - 08:25 PM The Orthodox churches also seem to agree. In this regard, an article in the Calgary Herald reports a speech by a member of the Russian Orthodox Church (excerpted) in which a thoughtful perspective is expressed. "The American people may have an unrealistic perspective on their war in Iraq as a result of their peculiar 'civil religion.' "There are all kinds of Islam and all kinds of Christianity," said Fr. Thomas Hopko, dean emeritus of the Orthodox Church in America's St. Vladimir's Seminary in New Jersey. "And it seems to me that the leaders in this war are not representative of the real traditions of their religions on either side." About America's involvement in Iraq, Hopko said his main concern is "what passes for Christianity" in the U. S., in matters like the reverence invested in political affairs. "From early on, America became a civil religion, with its holy fathers (Lincoln and Washington), its holy scriptures like the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, and its holy places," he said. "As a result, Americans consider themselves to be called by God to show the world how to live." |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: Don Firth Date: 06 Apr 03 - 07:57 PM Rick, in answer to your question, I heard that statement on the news a couple of days ago, and I set about trying to verify it. I came up with the following, which, fortunately, provided me with an incredible number of links—so one can verify this for oneself. A Christian magazine called "The Monthly Messenger" contains an editorial entitled Counterfeit Christianity. This seems to be the prevalent view in most mainstream American Christian churches. This states the position of the American Catholic Church, and here is the position of the Vatican. The Episcopal Church. The United Methodist Church. The Presbyterian Church A Statement by the Presiding Bishop of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America is reflected in an Editorial in the Lutheran Magazine (for twelve years, my wife was Regional Director of the Lutheran Peace Fellowship, so I have access to a lot of information, for example THIS). And, interestingly enough, here is the position of the American Baptist Church. Regarding the Southern Baptists, the following statement can be found in the Religion and Ethics Newsweekly, found on the PBS web site: "A diverse group of more than 100 prominent Christian ethicists issued a statement expressing 'a common moral presumption against a preemptive war.' So far, only a few religious leaders have publicly supported an attack against Saddam Hussein -- among them, Richard Land of the Southern Baptist Convention." If you scroll down a bit, you'll note that this web site contains a long list of links to articles about and statements by American religious leaders about the war on Iraq. I didn't chase down some of the smaller denominations such as the Seventh-Day Adventists or the various Assemly of God churches, but the position of the Unitarian Church and the Friends (Quakers) is well known. The Mormons? Here. And to really pile it on, this web site, provided by Las Cruces Religions for Peace, provides an overwhelming list of churches opposed to the war on Iraq, along with statements and links. Just scroll down. And keep scrolling . . . and scrolling . . . and scrolling. . . . Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: wysiwyg Date: 06 Apr 03 - 05:14 PM If you think you know the truth about Baghdad, Then you're sure you see the truth, about Baghdad. You can feel it in advance, Do that opinionated dance, See the future in a glance, about Baghdad. ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: wysiwyg Date: 06 Apr 03 - 05:09 PM .... someone seems to think they know my position on this war.... interesting, since I don't, yet, myself. Oh I wonder what will happen around Baghdad; I sure wonder what will happen around Baghdad! While opinions swirl around, Here the flames and trolls abound, Yet an inner peace I've found, around Baghdad. It's a SONG thread, folks! ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: GUEST,Q Date: 06 Apr 03 - 04:45 PM So there, too, WYSIWYG! He, he, he. Gird on swords and skewer all pacifists! Make shish-ka-bob of the lot of them. Too bad, Quakers, it was nice knowing you. Ban Quaker oatmeal now! |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: Rick Fielding Date: 06 Apr 03 - 04:31 PM Don, is that true? I know the Pope asked George Bush to try and negotiate some more, but are you sure ALL the major Christian denominations (sans S. Baptist) said "NO" to the war? If they did, then I missed it, and I'm really impressed. Perhaps we've not gotten the full story on this in Canada.....from what we've seen, they APPEAR to support the war effort entirely. Is it just semantics, or did they really say "Mr. Pres. You're WRONG." Many Canadian churches have stuck their necks out and said, "We're not convinced that the reasons given are truthful. But I believe it's been individual churches, rather than unified denominations. I may have this all wrong, cuz it's not an area I've delved into...so info (unbiased) appreciated. Cheers Rick |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: GUEST Date: 06 Apr 03 - 04:28 PM As a preacher's wife you, of all people. should understand this WYSIWYG.
Praying for our enemies . . . making them our friends . . . preserving life, and learning to return evil with good. These are all cited as basic Christian teachings by the liberal political and theological positions. But these are directed to individuals only and not to the heads of state and those acting as their agents. God has a very different mission for the heads of state as set forth in Romans 13:1-6. Verse 4 describes the "One in authority" as not bearing the sword (i.e. the power of life and death) for nothing. Rather, "He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer." There is no biblical support for pacifism, appeasement and "consciencious objection" when confronted with an obviously just war.
It is Sunday lady, shouldn't you be out shepharding the flock? |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: wysiwyg Date: 06 Apr 03 - 03:21 PM Gee, maybe it's kinda hard to be creative when one has one's knickers in a twist over one's beliefs or one's politics... Perhaps a position so "hot" that it gets in the way of the music (from either perspective) about it is a position not yet totally rational.... Oh the rhetoric burns bright around Baghdad, Yes the rhetoric burns bright around Baghdad! Their TV says they've won, But "said" don't equal "done", And there still is much to fight, around Baghdad. ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: GUEST,Q Date: 06 Apr 03 - 03:15 PM Hey, Bernard! You do right to keep this a music thread. Otherwise someone might demote it to the bottom list. |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: Bernard Date: 06 Apr 03 - 03:08 PM Guest Q: I thought BAGDAD was one of them there fancy geetar tunings... |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: GUEST,Q Date: 06 Apr 03 - 03:01 PM Paulo, remember your history. Baghdad was part of the Ottoman Empire of the Turks in 1912, not losing it until WW1 in 1917. Or are you one "of that ilk" who don't read history? |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: paulo Date: 06 Apr 03 - 02:15 PM Pity they didn't know where Bagdad was. Or is that typical amongst Americans of a certain ilk. Paulo |
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Subject: Lyr Add: BAGDAD (O'Dea/Herbert) From: GUEST,Q Date: 06 Apr 03 - 02:04 PM All ye wanna-be composers, this is the way the GREAT songwriters do it. Read and drool! Lyr. Add: BAGDAD Lyrics James O'Dea, Music by Victor Herbert Bagdad is a town in Turkey, On a camel tall and jerky You can journey there and see Just how it used to be- Minarets and temples gaudy, rugs and carpets real and shoddy, Gay bazars that make you say, Dreaming of a bygone day, "Life was fair and fine in Bagdad, Land of languorous delights, Oh, those dancing girls entrancing, And oh, those pink Arabian nights. Ah! Where La Belle Fatima's daughter Was a headline "turkey-trotter," Mecca bound, is Allah's care, Many Pilgrims there Mystic shriner, gone before us, Helped to swell the Pilgrim's Chorus And they chanted, yes, they did, "Allah's great but oh, you kid!" Life was fine and fair in Bagdad, In the balmy summer air, Oh those date trees, simply great trees, And oh, those sloe-eyed damsels there. Ah! Hold up copers, pistol toters Taxi cheaters, female voters In old Bagdad were taboo, Bread and butter charges, too- To increase the population Was the favorite recreation, Allah smiled on all such things Allah always pulls the strings, Life was fair and fine in Bagdad, City fair of mystic spells, Oh, those olden temples golden, And oh, those spicy garlic smells. Ah! From that unforgetable Broadway musical comedy, "The Lady of the Slipper," Victor Herbert and James O'Dea, 1912. Sheet music in the Levy Collection. Bagdad |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: Don Firth Date: 06 Apr 03 - 02:00 PM "The Churches tell the boys to kill in Baghdad" Fact:-- All major Christian denominations in America have issued statements opposing this war, except the Southern Baptists. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: Nigel Parsons Date: 06 Apr 03 - 12:53 PM Watch for 'Stop' signs in your bus around Baghdad Or you'll make all your relations very sad Whilst you may not be a traitor They "shoot first; ask questions later" That's the way the army do it in Baghdad! Nigel (sticking to WYSIWYG's scansion; "In Mobile" ?) |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: Neighmond Date: 06 Apr 03 - 12:41 PM Where were you when the lights went out in Baghdad? Say where were you when the lights went out in Baghdad? There were deeds done in the dark That would chill the human heart And that was just a start, down in Baghdad! Chaz |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 06 Apr 03 - 12:32 PM "The Churches tell the boys to kill in Baghdad" - well, this time anyway this is, with a very few exceptions, definitely not the case. Well the armies ready waiting round Baghdad, They've put checkpoints on the roads around Baghdad. In plain English, they say "Stop", Then the bullets start to pop. Best not take your kids to shop, around Baghdad. |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: Neighmond Date: 06 Apr 03 - 11:57 AM Guest: Aside from your snide and asinine little dig I don't see you writing anything. If it's such a pile then get up off your chump and write one that is better. Chaz |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: GUEST Date: 06 Apr 03 - 10:43 AM A lot of threads don't get posts till they're over ten posts. Hey??? How does that work? Gargoyle is right, though. Your 'effort' is a pile of shit. |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: wysiwyg Date: 06 Apr 03 - 10:36 AM Not at all.... no one pays any attention to that one. A lot of threads don't get posts till they're over ten posts. I bet people think it's a war-BS thread that never got moved to the BS section, not realizing from the title that it's a music thread. Davomaniacs will post if they see it, I bet. ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: Alba Date: 06 Apr 03 - 08:28 AM Oh well that killed this thread stone dead!!! |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 05 Apr 03 - 10:46 PM It ispathetic WYSIWYG.
Sincerely,
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: wysiwyg Date: 05 Apr 03 - 09:37 PM Excellent. Hope to see more, from any view. ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: GUEST,Uncle Davophile Date: 05 Apr 03 - 07:05 PM Great Idea. Uncle Dave would probably have been a flag waving Dubya supporter, but thank God not everyone is! The Churches tell the boys to kill in Baghdad Wastin' ragheads is a thrill in Baghdad The enemy's s'posed to just lay down Come on in, destroy our town But that's not the way it's goin' down in Baghdad. Christ can see what's goin' on in Baghdad In his name we're killin' souls in Baghdad How many deaths til we kill Saddam "no other options"? Just like 'Nam Bring 'em home both gals and men, from Baghdad |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: catspaw49 Date: 05 Apr 03 - 06:00 PM I'm the Minister of Information in Baghdad I'm the Minister of Information in Baghdad We've killed the bastards en masse But why's this Abrams up my ass? A suppository's being given me in Baghdad. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Around Baghdad From: Alba Date: 05 Apr 03 - 05:50 PM The air is thick with fear around Baghdad Oh the air is thick with fear around Baghdad and a tear will sting your eye watching soldiers fight and die As we watch the bullets fly around Baghdad Like you say Susan for it or against it, you can't be impervious to it. Who's next then! |
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