Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: Sir Roger de Beverley
Date: 03 Jul 03 - 03:30 AM

Oombanjo and I met with the BERFF organisers last night for a post mortem on how the fringe and the festival had worked in their first year together. Apart from a few obvious niggles (some of them aired here already)we were pretty happy that the spirit of PVFF had largely survived the transformation into the fringe and that both the festival proper and the fringe had fed each other pretty well in terms of people switiching between festival and fringe events quite freely.

We are now hopeful that the programme next year will contain all of the fringe evnts and will be free. As you know, this depended on advertising revenue from the pubs which, apart from the Sun, was not forthcoming this year. However, we have already signed up the Sun, Hodgson's, Nellies and Tiger and are expextant of getting Foresters& Beehive committed soon. We haven't approached Oddies and Moulders yet because of holidays but we are sure that they won't let us down.

It has been proposed that we try and organise a Mudcat get together as part of the fringe next year and Oombanjo is going to approach one or two people about that soon.

Another idea that has come out of the pubs is to look at a weekend "Celtic Festival" in the winter based mainly on sessions in a small number of pubs (Sun, hodgson's, Oddies?)and maybe a couple of booked acts in the evenings. Any thoughts on that?

Roger

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: Noreen
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 03:23 PM

If you had his money, Richard...

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: GUEST,guest no cookie working
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 02:18 PM

Linda, 'Trainspotter/anoracky types' are usually very friendly, that's the problem, you just don't generally want to mix with them for to long. It's the same as the saddo's who wear imitation football strips. However, I think that when I get my 'Mudcat tee shirt' I'm going to get 'Beckham' & nos.'23' put on the back. Ha would anyone dare talk to me then ?
lots of love and keep it real Richard.

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: GUEST,guest selby
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 01:02 PM

sorry for the guest bit can't get me cookie working.
I was there only mudcatters i knowingly talked to was the Ducks and didn't se a lot of them other places I suppose. As long as you buy me a pint i'll talk to anyone:-()
Keith

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: Noreen
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 10:19 AM

Nah, Linda, the inference was that when people spot you (trainspotters/anoracky weirdo types) they'll run the other way...!

Sorry for not saying hello to everyone there- I did my best!

...you all apear to be in gangs to the exclusion of others... I'm sorry if that was the appearance that was given, but it was not the case. It was my first time at the Beverley festival and I took the opportunity of seeing as much as possible of the different venues, often on my own.

I certainly would have greeted an unknown mudcat t-shirt if I had seen it... I didn't get to the Oddfellow's session (apart from waving through the door), so maybe didn't get to see you, GUEST.

I promise to always wear my Mudcat badge in future (and/or t-shirt) and also promise to be nice to anyone who says hello. :0)

Feedback on the fringe:
I thought it was very good indeed, great concerts and singarounds in friendly pubs. I did wonder though about the pub which was the Friday venue for Cara (Moulder's Arms?). Cara played beautifully as ever, but I think there were only four people in the venue who were at all interested in them being there (including me and Mrs Duck!) The drinkers at the bar carried on talking regardless, except for shouting out requests for the Wild Rover...

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 09:18 AM

I resent the obvious inference that us trainspotters/anoracky weirdo types are unfriendly!

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 08:35 AM

I think that 'Guest' has a valid point. I know it's up to each and everyone of us to join in but sometimes at small venues like pubs and clubs you can feel a bit excluded. I certainly felt that at Beverley a few years ago, sometimes I felt that I was intruding, I know that's obviously not the case. The other thing is that although people may seem like 'good eggs' when on 'the net' they may be 'trainspotters/anoracks/strange weirdo's etc' when you meet them in the flesh. I think I'll buy a Mudcat tee shirt tho' and if you see me wearing it ... please don't talk to me ....(only kidding)
regards Ritchie

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: Red and White Rabbit
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 02:19 AM

I've never tried bear at a fesival perhaps next year!!

all the singarounds I went to were very inclusive - Mrs Duck I support your comment though I left the childers at home - festivals need to tkae into consideration changes that three year olds do not understand

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: smallpiper
Date: 01 Jul 03 - 07:46 PM

ouch!

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 30 Jun 03 - 09:01 PM

i,agree.
ps.dont,have,to,many,bears,
you,might,fall,over,and,hert,youself.

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: Bassic
Date: 30 Jun 03 - 08:55 PM

I think it is a little unfair to comment on the etiquette of sessions in this thread. Especially the informal and ad-hoc gatherings in the food tent!! A reminder to those organising programmed sessions about being inclusive, especially to those faces that are not so familiar, is always usefull, but please acknowlege that it is not an easy task in a regular weekly/monthly session (plenty of threads on that tipic!!) and VERY difficult to get it exactly rite in a busy and bustling festival. "Well done" I say to those who put themselfs forward to organise/lead sessions, those at Beverley that I know personally would, without exception, always do there best to be inclusive, (untill they fall over from beer poisonong that is:-)

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 30 Jun 03 - 07:48 PM

helo,maybe,guest,is,judt,trying,to
make,trubble?
if,so,we,should,burn,him.john

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: Raggytash
Date: 30 Jun 03 - 07:25 PM

Guest, I can't speak for the rest of the festival, but I am sure I can speak for Punch the Horse and their audience when I say that you could not find a more gregarious bunch of people. I have been accepted into this wondeful bunch of nutters and have enjoyed many quite surreal evenings in their company.
My experience of the rest of the festival matched the above, but that was my experience. Please come next year and I feel sure that you will have a great time

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: LesB
Date: 30 Jun 03 - 07:17 PM

I have to agree with some of 'guests' comments and with that in mind I feel I must add my comments. I was there with a dance team (My first time @ Beverley) and could only go to evening events.
Much of this thread has been about the fringe. I go to a fest to see the artists and maybe do a bit of singing and playing.
I would not have bought tickets to see the Line up at this years fest. On Fri I managed 10 mins of Chumbawumba, Then came out to wait for the late night event with Phil Cunningham & Aly Bain etc (Wonderful). The main Sat night 'World Music' concert was a big turn off for me, I went on a pub tour following a rapper side.
Late on, I went into a session in the food tent and having plucked up courage to have a go, I waited for a lull in the proceedings (there was a a couple of guitars being thrashed at the other end of the tent by people completely oblivious to what was going on), and started a tune, only to be told off for not waiting until the they ( The guitar thrashers) had finished. This from someone who had dominated the proceedings up until then

Les

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: GUEST,ossonflags
Date: 30 Jun 03 - 10:59 AM

I am a little puzzled - but there again i usually am - but why do you sign in as GUEST when you have gone to the trouble of buying a mudcat tee shirt? You dont say if you contribute in any way ie.play, sing,get drunk, fallover etc.

I was in most venues over that fantastic weekend (appearing with Pthe H,joint folk club running and at all the singarounds were everyone was given a chance to contribute,in particular at the Oddfellows session on the sunday, were Jim clearly asked several times was there any one who wanted to sing etc. I did not get the impression any one was getting ignored/excluded.

Yeh,you are dead right in one thing though,there is, was and always will be, room for the small voices at anywere the mudcatters, me and friends I know are.

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: The DeanMeister
Date: 30 Jun 03 - 04:42 AM

You are honoured...Can't recall seeing jOhn...erm....

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: smallpiper
Date: 29 Jun 03 - 05:30 PM

yes jOhn did he even waved to me.

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 29 Jun 03 - 04:32 PM

I,think,mrs-duck,is,right.
anyway,there,was,plenty,of,chance,to,arrange,
to,meet,for,a,drink/sing,in,the
"who's,,going,to,beverley?",thread.
I'spoke,to,everybody,that,i,recognised,
.

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 29 Jun 03 - 02:29 PM

I enjoyed Beverley and met many mudcatters that I hadn't met before but must have missed Guest. If you are not willing to identify yourself online are you sure you want to be met?
I had only on complaint about the festival and that was the arrangements for the children's events on Sunday which had been on the field on the Saturday and appeared to be free. On Sunday they were put into the leisure centre hall due to rain even though it was hot and dry by mid morning - no notification so my kids sat for nearly an hour waiting. When we wen to the leisure centre to check times we were told of the move and that it would be £2.50 each (£7.50) for the remaining hour. Needless to say I didn't pay and had two very upset 3 year olds!

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 29 Jun 03 - 12:17 PM

The good lady Duck and myself have too much to organise in general. We look forward to someting such as the Beverley Fringe as a chance to just chill-out. The field where we camped was an ideal play area for our twins. Having youngsters restricts what can be attended, for various reasons, including the fact that they can get restless in long sessions or concerts. It is a pain in the neck if you have to pay a lot of money to go to a concert, then are unable to stay in it because the Littlies are bored. Having a pub which opens onto an enclosed field is a godsend to us.
I certainly introduced myself to anyone who apeared to be a Mudcatter. And I met a few ones I had not previously crossed paths with.
Oombanjo - did you find the Blue Clicky to the Honking Duck, which I left somwhere ? If not - here it is again http://www.honkingduck.com/ . (Any news about the proposed occasional American Old-Time Music session at Nellies?)
Looking forward to a Fringe next year.
Quack!
Geoff the Duck.

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 29 Jun 03 - 12:11 PM

i,agree.john

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 29 Jun 03 - 12:08 PM

Sorry spotted no-one in a Mudcat T Shirt except Mrs Duck -I didn't go around in a little gang with anyone!Food tent was appalling and overpriced. Some nice friendly fringe sessions in Hodgsons and Nellies which ,ask me think GUEST you were in the wrong place at the wrong time! -

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: oombanjo
Date: 29 Jun 03 - 09:10 AM

Yeh. and I'm the little fat balled one. Next year we will have an organised get together of Mudcatters at the fest( good Idea)??? Faces to names. This sounds like a job for Mrs Duck

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: Red and White Rabbit
Date: 29 Jun 03 - 05:07 AM

Guest - sorry I didnt see an unhappy catter t-shirt walking around at Oddfellows else I would have said Hi
I dont know most catters only being new to this place but I have found them very friendly

I didnt go near the food tent - out of my price bracket but most people seem to have been disappointed and wanted the scouts back

I thought it was interesting on Saturday afternoon that I could have sat in the car park and enjoyed the sights and sounds of the concert in the festival hall thinggy without having to be hot and bothered inside. Got a bit cofused by the programme only having half the fringe events listed but I understand why that happened

basically had a great weekend but I am now really sorry that GUEST felt so excluded - sorry mate - will try harder next time (with a carnation and I promise I will say hi)

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Jun 03 - 04:43 AM

I was there Food Tent CRAP
Why was Eliza Carthy on late Sunday afternoon and Sunday nightI would have loved to see her but had to travel home this is not the first time Beverley Festival in my opinion has kept the Headline acts back.

I am not moaning I am observing
I am a frequent guest here and would have liked to meet some mudcatters but you all apear to be in gangs to the exclusion of others I was in the oddfellows in a mudcat T shirt and no one wanted to know me although I tried to strike up conversations.
Case in point the thread is about what did you enjoy at beverley and has developed onto a chums meeting place oomabanjo has asked for feedback and has been ignored.

Get the thread back on track and think sometimes people with a small voice do attend mudcat festivals

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: Julie B
Date: 28 Jun 03 - 03:25 PM

Nice to see what the 'proper' festival was like after my first visit to Beverley for the brilliant 'Peoples Voice' Fringe-only Folk Festival last year. Shame about the ghost walk not happening as there were about 15 of us waiting - maybe next year.

The only non-fringe event I attended was the final concert. Eliza Carthy etc very good, but I thought the sound was cranked up far too high for the Lindisfarne set. Stuffed rolled up balls of tissue paper in my ears but we gave it up as a bad job in the end as the hall was pretty hot too! Rest of concert good though.

Julie B

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: Sir Roger de Beverley
Date: 28 Jun 03 - 04:18 AM

Well we have so many Johns in our Tuesday and Sunday sessions that we are all thinking of changing our names to John for simplicity (there was a Monty Python sketch about Australia in which eveyone was called Bruce).

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: GUEST,red and white rabbit
Date: 28 Jun 03 - 03:25 AM

Sir Rog - mucchos apologeticos amigos - no good me multitasking - you got called John by mistake on my earlier missive - my daughter was talking to me at the time and you turned into the boy in her class who isnt as good at her at reading - I can imagine the scene you in a class of five year olds with a fringed hat trying to read real books instead of beer mats! Sorry again Rog. I guess its all the worry over MCFAT's forthcoming duel

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: Pistachio
Date: 27 Jun 03 - 01:58 PM

New to Mudcat site but not new to Beverley. ...Fantastic Fringe! Such a shame we can't get to two places at one time (or 3 or 4). I enjoyed it wherever I was ... but gather I missed some excellent sessions where I wasn't!
Looking forward to seeing Rogers new HAT!. Thanx to PTH for 'fun on friday'. Thanx to The Sun Inn too.
Marquee sessions are a great way to START the day!
I'm off to Warwick, maybe I'll see you there... can't get a pass for Cleckheaton...do enjoy yourselves (no doubt about that)

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: Red and White Rabbit
Date: 27 Jun 03 - 12:12 PM

bloody men - lady bumps - divorces - food and beer

John - it were great and you did a great job of organising - like you say a lot of the fringe is what always went on but I think your beer taste is ace - may the beer fest continue also

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: MC Fat
Date: 27 Jun 03 - 05:22 AM

I agree with bring back the venture scouts for a start Briony and her sis had nice lady bumps. Perhaps Paul you should have said sweat instead of sweet !! As for a divorce perhaps you should be challenged to a duel as well. Will try and get Ray & Johnny back by severely berating them at Whitby !!. Only complaint I have is perhaps there winae room for two sing a rounds on Friday but hey....lets not fight.

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: Kampervan
Date: 26 Jun 03 - 03:53 PM

Well I thought this year was bloody fantastic too. And I got engaged to MC Fat's wife, I'm just waiting for her double divorce to come through.

Anyway, about the Festival.

Yup, brilliant follow up to last year's wonderful fringe weekend.

Only real complaints,
1. Some of the rooms at the pub venues were a bit small

2. The Sun couldn't get an extension on Sunday night.

3. The campsite tea tent.
Why cheap chemical-rich chicken in brown sauce? Why not bacon butties?
Really slow service at breakfast. Badly organised although the young guy serving on Sunday was working really hard.
No tomato ketchup on Sunday morning.
Shut early on Sunday night.

No-one has done it better than the scouts in their last few years before they driven out by the great god 'profit', and no,it really isn't rose-tinted specs.

So, pretty good all round, but let's keep it to a weekend. There are other really good week-long festivals; but Beverly's strength has always been that it's short, sweet and very very friendly.

And bring back the Barnsley boys.

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: oombanjo
Date: 26 Jun 03 - 02:58 PM

The whole weekend was great. But I am touting for your comments on the fringe to feed back to the council, so if u have any compliments or critisisms put them into this thread.

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: Sir Roger de Beverley
Date: 26 Jun 03 - 08:35 AM

Apologies for anyone who turned up to do the ghost walk on Saturday evening. The guy who runs it got mixed up.

He did, however, turn up to do the historical walk on Sunday as arranged and did apologise to those who had turned up in vain the previous evening.

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: Red and White Rabbit
Date: 26 Jun 03 - 02:17 AM

does that mean I cant marry Paul?

does that mean my marriage to MCFAT is not legal?

oh well, it was good whilst it lasted Jim - btw glad I could help with the work problem

anyway - whoever I am married to I had a good weekends singing and some nice falling down water
(and for your information husbands numbers 1 & 3 I was genuinely ill on Saturday half my staff have been off this week so it wasnt a hangover or bad beer at the Odds or Sun Friday night.)

Sir J it was nice to put a face to a name and I realy enjoyed the fringe it was my first time in Beverley for 22 years - brought back a few memories - I might even come back if you'll let me!

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: oldgit
Date: 25 Jun 03 - 02:52 PM

great singing and great beer
bit of a shock to find my missus had bigamously married some fellow called Mcfat
serves me right for arriving late!
I'll make the whole weekend next time

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: JeZeBeL
Date: 25 Jun 03 - 02:20 PM

FANTASTIC.....saw Barachois for their last gig as they're retireing!! :( AJ the DJ was very good....I got very drunk on the saturday night and vaguely remember being very ill and passing out about six am on sunday!!

The perfect end to a perfect weekend if you ask me!!

Em

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: GUEST,Mrs MCFAT
Date: 25 Jun 03 - 02:06 PM

well I must have enjoyed it as I passed out on my honeymoon!!!!

Raggy - love the photos on the other thread
glad you like the hunting tartan guitar - marriage would have been over before it started if i had painted the original - perhaps next year when I want a divorce to marry Paul - he asked me before I left on Sunday and since MCFAT is going off on his world tour we might as well get divorced!!

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: MC Fat
Date: 25 Jun 03 - 06:01 AM

Yeah so is shit hot

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: Noreen
Date: 25 Jun 03 - 05:56 AM

That's two words

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: MC Fat
Date: 25 Jun 03 - 04:24 AM

The word is double fantastic

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: sweetfire
Date: 25 Jun 03 - 03:45 AM

The word FANTASTIC comes to mind...

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: The DeanMeister
Date: 25 Jun 03 - 03:43 AM

Had a splendid time thanks, Dodgy. And we're not jealous at all of you being in Ibiza, cos its beautiful, hot and sunny here, too!!!

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Jun 03 - 09:20 PM

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: ET
Date: 24 Jun 03 - 02:27 PM

It was excellent. John is very restrained!!   I hope all the pubs concerned will tick the "entertainment" box for next year!!! or we might have mass arrests by the sponsoring council!

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 24 Jun 03 - 12:11 PM

It was brilliant!

Subject: RE: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 23 Jun 03 - 08:16 PM

i,enjoyed,it.
it,was,really,nice.john

Subject: Review: beverley fest did you enjoy?
From: GUEST,oddfellows
Date: 23 Jun 03 - 06:46 PM

hello peeps unfortunately as you all know we is stuck in ibiza but the wonders of mondern technology are here and we would just like to say a huge thanks to everybody for making it a most stupendous weekend and soz for deserting you all. cheers all see ya in a week.
p.s.it,s 1 am so i shall apologise if this don,t make sense.