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Tune Req: Princess Royal

GUEST,Gordon (Cutty Wren Folk Club, Marske) 27 Jul 03 - 05:25 PM
McGrath of Harlow 27 Jul 03 - 05:28 PM
Sorcha 27 Jul 03 - 05:30 PM
Leadfingers 27 Jul 03 - 06:31 PM
Helen 27 Jul 03 - 08:14 PM
GUEST,Masato 27 Jul 03 - 08:25 PM
Snuffy 28 Jul 03 - 09:10 AM
clueless don 28 Jul 03 - 09:17 AM
The Borchester Echo 28 Jul 03 - 09:43 AM
The Borchester Echo 28 Jul 03 - 09:55 AM
Ely 28 Jul 03 - 11:25 PM
GUEST,squeezy 29 Jul 03 - 07:45 AM
The Borchester Echo 29 Jul 03 - 08:27 AM
treewind 29 Jul 03 - 05:08 PM
McGrath of Harlow 29 Jul 03 - 05:21 PM
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Subject: Tune Req: Princess Royal
From: GUEST,Gordon (Cutty Wren Folk Club, Marske)
Date: 27 Jul 03 - 05:25 PM

Can any of you good people help me locate the music for this fine tune? I first heard it on Martin Simpson's CD 'The Bramble Briar' and I would like to try to play it on the whistle.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Princess Royal
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 27 Jul 03 - 05:28 PM

There are (at least) two versions, the one on Morris On, and another strange melancholy one they always play at Standon May Festival.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Princess Royal
From: Sorcha
Date: 27 Jul 03 - 05:30 PM

From JC's Tunefinder, take your pick.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Princess Royal
From: Leadfingers
Date: 27 Jul 03 - 06:31 PM

Originally an O Carolan tune Modifeid to use by Morris sides by taking out the minor. Maire Ni Cathasaigh and Chris Newman do the O Carolan and any Morris melodeon player should provide the other tune.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Princess Royal
From: Helen
Date: 27 Jul 03 - 08:14 PM

In Lesley Nelson's page called
Turlough O'Carolan - Music in Midi Format
scroll down to the one called Miss MacDermott (Princes Royal). There are two Midi versions by Barry Taylor. A beautiful tune. It's the first tune I heard Mudcatter alison play on her Celtic harp.

Helen


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Princess Royal
From: GUEST,Masato
Date: 27 Jul 03 - 08:25 PM

Here's a sound clip of "The Princess Royal" on Martin Simpson's Bramble Briar.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Princess Royal
From: Snuffy
Date: 28 Jul 03 - 09:10 AM

There are roughly two dozen different Morris versions of this tune, about equally divided between Major and Minor


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Princess Royal
From: clueless don
Date: 28 Jul 03 - 09:17 AM

I listened to the clip provided by GUEST,Masato. Gad! Nothing wrong with it, but a *very* different tune from the Princess Royal that I know (as performed, e.g. by the Chieftains on "Bonaparte's Retreat" [I think].)


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Princess Royal
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 28 Jul 03 - 09:43 AM

You ain't heard nothing till you listen to the John Spiers arrangement of the Abingdon version of Princess Royal on Bellow (Fellside FECD 175). Cuckoo's Nest (arr Spiers/Boden) is even weirder. But brilliant!


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Princess Royal
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 28 Jul 03 - 09:55 AM

Oh, and the notation is on their website:http://www.squeezy.fsnet.co.uk/spiers_boden/


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Princess Royal
From: Ely
Date: 28 Jul 03 - 11:25 PM

The Martin Simpson one is almost the one I know, only I learned it with even timing, not his slow down-speed up thing. I love the tune, though--I learned it from a concertina player but I play it on the lap dulcimer. (I like the minor version, too, but can't play it).


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Princess Royal
From: GUEST,squeezy
Date: 29 Jul 03 - 07:45 AM

That slow down thing isn't Martin Simpson's creation, it's called morris slows. So that tells me that he's playing a morris version (haven't heard the recording in question). It's the bit of the dance where the dancers show off how high they can jump/caper etc. If it's in minor key it's probably the Bampton version.

Cheers

squeezy


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Princess Royal
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 29 Jul 03 - 08:27 AM

Martin Simpson said once that he got the tune from Maurice Ogg who was a Lincolnshire concertina player. Having listened to the clip above (which sounds like the melody is being played on an accordian), it did remind me of the one memorable occasion when I saw the Bampton side dance.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Princess Royal
From: treewind
Date: 29 Jul 03 - 05:08 PM

Just been to Squeezy's site (not for the first time) and didn't find any notation for PR. It is buried in the message board somewhere?

Anahata


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Princess Royal
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 29 Jul 03 - 05:21 PM

Basically when the Morris Dancer levitates it's necessary to slow down till he (or she) comes down to earth again...


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Princess Royal
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 29 Jul 03 - 05:27 PM

Hi Anahata

Sorry, maybe I should have explained. You click on CDs in the navigation and then on the Bellow CD cover.   All the lyrics and notation follow. PR is going to sound wild on the cello. But have you heard Jim Younger's version on the mandolin?


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Princess Royal
From: GUEST,squeezy
Date: 29 Jul 03 - 09:05 PM

Sorry Anahata

It's buried, but not in the messageboard.

As countess said basically, the version is my recollection of the Abingdon version learnt while watching the team dancing when i was quite young so no doubt there are anomalies!

So - My homepage/CDs/Bellow cover/Princess Royal - should find the notation.

Cheers

Squeezy


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Princess Royal
From: Sorcha
Date: 29 Jul 03 - 10:14 PM

Weren't any of the ones at JC's the right one? And, is it Princess Royal or Princes Royal??


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Princess Royal
From: Sorcha
Date: 29 Jul 03 - 10:52 PM

Just for completeness, here are the tunes for Princes Royal at JC's:
Click Me, Baby!


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Princess Royal
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 29 Jul 03 - 11:57 PM

Actually, those are all duplicates of the same example. The tune appeared in the contents list of Gow's Repository of the Dance Music of Scotland (part 2, n.d. but before 1807) as The Princes Royal, but this was probably a mis-print, as the tune itself appears, on page 45, as The Princess Royal.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Princess Royal
From: pattyClink
Date: 30 Jul 03 - 08:27 PM

Helen, what an absolutely enchanting site! Thanks for the link.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Princess Royal
From: Snuffy
Date: 30 Jul 03 - 09:02 PM

X: 1
T:Princess Royal, Abingdon (BC)
M:4/4
L:1/8
A:Abingdon
P:A(A2B2)3A
B:Esperance Book
K:F
P:A
cB|
A2G2 F2cB|ABGA F2fe|d2c2 B2d2|cdcB A2c2|
B2A2 G2F2|EFGE C2cB|AGFA G2E2|F6||
P:B
c2|
d2c2 d2e2|f2c2 f3c |fedc BAGF|E2C2 C4 |
F2F2 G4 |A2F2 f4 |f2c2 d4 |c2A2 B4 |
A2B2 c2A2|GAGE C2cB|AGFA G2E2|F6||

X: 2
T:Princess Royal, Abingdon (MDT)
M:4/4
L:1/8
A:Abingdon
P:A(A2B2)3A
K:G
P:A
dc|
B2A2 G2dc|BcBA G2g2|e3d c2e2|d3c B2d2|
c2B2 A2G2|FGAF D2dc|BABG A2D2|G6z2    ||
P:B
e3e e2f2|g2f2 g4 |g2f2 e2d2|BcBA G3A |
G2G2 A4 |B2G2 g3f |g2d2 e4 |d2B2 c4 |
c2B2 A2G2|FGAF D2dc|BABG A2D2|G6z2    ||

X: 3
T:Princess Royal, Adderbury
M:4/4
L:1/8
A:Adderbury
P:A(AB2)4
K:Dm
P:A
A>G|
F2E2 D2A>G|F2E2 D4 |d3c B2d2|c2B2 A3c |
B2A2 G2F2 |E2D2 C2c2|A2GF G2E2|D4   D2 ||
P:B
z2|
c2c2 c2de |f2F2 F3F |B2A2 G2F2|E2D2 C4 |
F2F2 G3G |A2A2 f4 |f2F2 B4 |d2F2 B4 |
B3A G2F2 |E2D2 C2c2|A2GF G2E2|D4   D2 ||

X: 4
T:Princess Royal, Bampton
M:2/2
L:1/8
Q:1/4=140
A:Bampton
P:AAB(CB)2
K:GMin
P:A
dc|
B2A2 G2dc|B2AB G2Bd|e2c2 cdec|d2dc BABd|
c2B2 A2G2|FGFD B,2dc|B2AG F2d2|G4   G4||
P:B
b2b2 b2ab|c'2f2   f4|bagf edcB|AcF2 F4|
G2GA BABc|d2d2   g3g|f2d2 e3e |d2G2 c4|
dcBA GABc|d2G2 G2dc|B2AG F2d2|G4   G4||
P:C
M:2/4
d3c|
M:4/4
L:1/8
B3c A3B|G4 d3c|B3c A3B|G4 d4|e4 c4|c2d2 e2c2|d4 B4|
M:2/4
BABd|
M:4/4
L:1/8
c2B2 A2G2|FGFD B,2dc|B2AG F2d2|G4   G4||

X: 5
T:Princess Royal, Bidford (CJS)
M:4/4
L:1/8
Q:1/4=120
S:CJS
A:Bidford
P:A.(A2BC3)4
K:G
P:A
d>c|
B<cA<B G2d>c|B<cA<B G2cd|e2ed   c2e2|d2dc B2d2|
c2(3BcB A2G2 |F>GA>F D2dc|B<dB<G A2D2|G4   G2 ||
P:B
d2|
e2d2    e2f2|g2GG   G2AB|c2B2   A2G2|F2E2 D4 |
DEFG    A2A2|B2d2   g3g |f2d2   e3e |d2G2 c3c |
B2A2    G2B2|AGFE   D2dc|BdBG   A2D2|G4   G2 ||
P:C
zz|
d3c      Bc3 |AB3    G4 |d3c    Bc3 |AB3 G4 |
c2d2    e4 |e2d2   c4 |e4    d4 |d2c2 B3d |
c2(3BcB A2G2|F>GA>F D2dc|B<dB<G A2D2|G4   G2 ||

X: 6
T:Princess Royal, Bidford (JG)
M:4/4
L:1/8
Q:1/4=120
S:JG
R:Hornpipe
A:Bidford
P:A.(A2BC3)4.AA
K:G
P:A
dc|
BcAB G2dc|BcAB G2cd|e2ed c2e2|d2dc B2d2|
c2B2 A2G2|FGAF D2dc|BdBG A2D2|G4   G2 ||
P:B
zd|
e2d2 e2f2|g2GG G2AB|c2B2 A2G2|F2E2 D4 |
DEFG A2A2|B2d2 g4 |f2d2 e4 |d2G2 c4 |
B2A2 G2B2|AGFE D2dc|BdBG A2D2|G4   G2 ||
P:C
dc|BcAB G2dc|\
M:5/4
L:1/8
BcAB G2d3d|\
M:4/4
e4 e3d|c4 e4|d4 d3c|B4 d4|
c4 B4 |A4 G4|F3G A3F|
M:3/4
L:1/8
D4dc|
M:4/4
BdBG A2D2|G4 G2||

X: 7
T:Princess Royal, Bidford (SMM)
M:4/4
L:1/8
Q:1/4=120
S:Shakespeare Morris Men
A:Bidford
P:A.(A2BC3)4.AA
Z:vrh 05/03/0
K:G
P:A
dc|
BcAB G2dc|BcAB G2d2|e2ed cde2|d2dc B2d2|
c2B2 A2G2|FGAF D2dc|BdBG AcAF|G4   G2 ||
P:B
d2|
e2d2 e2f2|g2GG G2AB|c2B2 A2G2|F2E2 D4 |
DEFG A2A2|B2d2 g3g |f2d2 e3e |d2B2 c3c|
c2B2 A2G2|FGAF D2dc|BdBG AcAF|G4   G2||
P:C
dc|
B3c A3B |G4   d2c2|B3c A3B |G4   d4 |
e4{g}e2d2|c4   e4 |d4{g}d2c2|B4   d4 |
c2B2 A2G2|FGAF D2dc|BdBG AcAF|G4   G2||

X: 8
T:Princess Royal, Bledington 1
M:4/4
L:1/8
A:Bledington
P:AAB(CB)2
K:Am
P:A
AB|
c2Bc A2ed |c2Bc A2e2|f2d2 defg|e2d2 c3e|
ddc2 B2A2 |GAGF E2e2|dcBA G2B2|A4   A2 ||
P:B
e^f|
g2e2 e^fge|a2e2 d4 |aafe dcBA|B2G2 G4 |
A2AB c2c2 |d2d2 g4 |g2e2 f4 |e2A2 d4 |
cBAG ABcd |e2e2 A2e2|dcBA G2B2|A4   A2 ||
P:C
A2B2 c4   |B2c2 A4 |e2d2 c4 |B2c2 A4 |
e4   f4   |d4   d2e2|f2g2 e4 |d4   c3e|
ddc2 B2A2 |GAGF E2e2|dcBA G2B2|A4   A2 ||

X: 9
T:Princess Royal, Bledington 2
M:4/4
L:1/8
R:Hornpipe
A:Bledington
P:AAB(CB)2
K:GDor
P:A
dc|
B2A2 G2dc |B2A2 G2dd |e2c2 cdec|d2B2 B2-Bd|
c2BB A2G2 |F2EE D2c2 |B2AG F2A2|G4   G2   ||
P:B
de|
f2d2 defd |g2G2 G4   |gfed cBAG|A2F2 F2-FF|
G2G2 B2-BB|c2c2 f2-ff|e2c2 d2dc|B2G2 c4   |
BAGF GABc |d2G2 G2dc |B2AG F2A2|G4   G2z2 ||
P:C
d3c B4   |A4   G4   |d3c B4 |A4   G4   |
d3d e4   |c4   c3d |e3c d4 |B4   B2-Bd|
c2BB A2G2 |F2EE D2c2 |B2AG F2A2|G4   G2   ||

X: 10
T:Princess Royal, Ducklington
M:4/4
L:1/8
A:Ducklington
P:A(AB)2CB
K:Gm
P:A
d>c|
B2A>B G2d>c |B2A>B G2c>d| e2c2   c>de>c|d2B2 B2d2|
c2B2 A2G2 |F>GF>E D2d2 |(3BcB AG A2F2 |G4   G4 ||
P:B
K:Dm
d2c2 d2ee |f2F2   F4   | f2e2    d2cB |A2G2 G4 |
F2G2 A4    |B2c2   d4   | c2A2    B4    |A2D2 G4 |
F2E2 D2FG |A2D2   D2AG |(3FGF ED E2C2 |D4   D4 ||
P:C
      A3G   |
F4    EF3   |
D4    A3G   |
F4    EF3   |M:3/4 L:1/8
D4    GA    |M:4/4
=B2G2 G>AB>G|M:6/4 L:1/8
A2F2 F4 A4 |M:4/4
F4    E4    |
D4    F2G2 |
A4    D4    |M:3/4 L:1/8
D4    AG    |M:4/4
(3FGF ED E2C2|
D4    D4    ||

X: 11
T:Princess Royal, Fieldtown
M:4/4
L:1/8
A:Fieldtown
P:AAB(CB)2
K:G
P:A
GA|
B2A2 G2dc|B2AB G3d |e2c2 c2e2|d2c2 B3d|
cdB2 A2G2|F2E2 D2c2|B2AG A2F2|G4   G2 ||
P:B
Z2|
g2g2 g2fg|a2d2 d4 |g2d2 d2c2|BAGF E3F|
G2AB c2d2|e2e2 g4 |g2e2 g4 |e2A2 d4 |
d2cB A2G2|F2E2 D2c2|B2AG A2F2|G4   G2 ||
P:C
GA|
B4   A4 |G4   d2c2|B4   A2B2|G4   d4 |
e4   c4 |c4   e4 |d4   c4 |B4   d4 |
cdB2 A2G2|F2E2 D2c2|B2AG A2F2|G4   G2 ||

X: 12
T:Princess Royal, Longborough 1
M:2/2
L:1/8
Q:1/4=140
A:Longborough
P:AAB(CB)2
K:GDor
P:A
dc|
B2A2 G2dc|B2A2 G3d |e2c2 defe|d2c2 B3d |
c2B2 A2G2|FFFE D2dc|B2AG A2F2|G4   G2 ||
P:B
z^f|
g2^f2 g2fg|a2d2 d3e |f2e2 d2cB|BABG F2F2|
G2GA B2c2|defd g3g |f2d2 e3e |d2G2 c3c |
B2A2 G2F2|GABA G2dc|B2AG A2F2|G4   G2 ||
P:C
M:2/4 L:1/8
d3c|
M:2/2
B4    A4 |G4   d3c |B4   A4 |G4   d4 |
e4    c4 |d2e2 f2e2|d4   B4 |
M:2/4 L:1/8
B3d|
M:4/4
c2B2 A2G2|FFFE D2dc|B2AG A2F2|G4   G2 ||

X: 13
T:Princess Royal, Longborough 2
M:2/2
L:1/8
Q:1/4=140
A:Longborough
P:AAB(CB)2
K:GMin
P:A
d2|
cBAB G2d2| cBAB G2d2|e3d c2f2 |edcd B2d2|
c2B2 A2G2|^F2G2 D2dc|BABG A2^F2|G4   G2 ||
P:B
d2|
g3^f g2a2| b3B B2f2|bagf edcB |A2F2 F2F2|
B2AB c2Bc| d2d2 g3g |f2B2 e3e |d2G2 c4 |
cBAB G2B2| A2d2 D2dc|BABG A2^F2|G4   G2 ||
P:C
M:2/4 L:1/8
d4|
M:2/2
c2B2 A2B2| G4   d4 |c2B2 A2B2| G4   d4 |
e6    d2 | c4   f4 |e2d2 c2d2|
M:2/4 L:1/8
B3d|
M:4/4
c2B2 A2G2|^F2G2 D2dc|BABG A2^F2|G4   G2 ||

X: 14
T:Princess Royal, Oddington 1
M:4/4
L:1/8
Q:1/4=120
S:Shakespeare Morris Men
A:Oddington
P:A.AB(CB)2
Z:vrh 05/03/0
K:G
P:A
dc|
BcAB G2d2 |BcAB G2d2|efed c2e2|d2dc B2d2|
cBcB A2G2 |AGFE D2d2|B2AG A2F2|G4   G2 ||
P:B
d>e|
f2d2 d2ef |g2G2 G2f2|gagf e2d2|cBAG G2D2|
G2AB c2c2 |defd g3f |g2d2 e3e |d2G2 c4 |
d2cB c2A2 |G2AF D2d2|B2AG A2d2|G4   G2 ||
P:C
M:2/4 L:1/8
d3c|M:4/4
B3c B2A2-|A2AB G4 |d3c B3c |B2A4   AB|
G4   d4   |e4   d4 |c3d e2f2|d4   d3c-|c3c B2d2 |
c2B2 A2G2 |AGFE D2dc|B2AG F2d2|G4   G2 ||

X: 15
T:Princess Royal, Oddington 2
M:4/4
L:1/8
Q:1/4=120
S:Shakespeare Morris Men
A:Oddington
P:A.AB(CB)2
Z:vrh 05/03/0
K:G
P:A
dc|
BcAB G2d2 |BcAB G2d2|efed c2e2|d2dc B2d2|
cBcB A2G2 |AGFE D2d2|B2AG A2F2|G4   G2 ||
P:B
d>e|
f2d2 d2ef |g2G2 G2de|fgfe d2c2|dcBA G2D2|
G2AB c2c2 |defd g3g |g2d2 e3e |d2G2 c4 |
B2cB c2A2 |AGFE D2d2|B2AG F2A2|G4   G2 ||
P:C
M:2/4 L:1/8
d3c|M:4/4
B3c B2A2-|A2AB G4 |d3c B3c |B2A4   AB|
G4   d4   |e4   d4 |c3d e2f2|d4   d3c-|c3c B2d2 |
c2B2 A2G2 |AGFE D2dc|B2AG F2d2|G4   G2 ||

X: 16
T:Princess Royal, Sherborne 1
M:4/4
L:1/8
Q:1/4=120
A:Sherborne
P:A.AB(CB3)3
K:G
P:A
dc|
BcAB G2d2|BcAB G2c2|e2ed c2e2|d2d2 B2d2|
c2B2 A2G2|FGAF D2c2|B2AG F2d2|G4   G2 ||
P:B
d2|
e2dd e2f2|g2G2 G4 |g2gf e2d2|BcBG E2EF|
G2A2 B4 |c2d2 g4 |f2d2 e4 |d2B2 c3e |
d2d2 c2A2|FGFE D2c2|B2AG A2d2|G4   G2 ||
P:C
M:2/4 L:1/8
d3c|
M:2/2
B4   A3B |G4   d3c |B4   A3B |G4   c3d |
e4   e3d |c4   e4 |d4   d3c |B6   d2 |
c2B2 A2G2|FGAF D2c2|B2AG F2d2|G4   G2 ||

X: 17
T:Princess Royal, Sherborne 2
M:4/4
L:1/8
A:Sherborne
P:AAB(CB)2
K:F
P:A
cB|
ABAG F2c2|ABAG F2c2|d2c2 B2A2|c2B2 A2A2|
B2A2 G2F2|EFED C2B2|A3F G2c2|F4   F2 ||
P:B
c2|
d2c2 d2e2|f2F2 F4 |f2fe d2c2|ABAG F3F |
F2G2 A3A |B2d2 f3f |e2c2 d2d2|c2A2 B3B |
B2A2 G2F2|EFED C2B2|A3F G2c2|F4   F2 ||
P:C
M:2/4 L:1/8
c3B|M:2/2
A3B A3G |F4   c3B |A3B A3G |F4   B3c |
d4   d3c |B4   d4 |c4   c3B |A4   c3A |
B2A2 G2F2|EFED C2B2|A3F G2c2|F4   F2 ||

X: 18
T:Princess Royal, Stanton Harcourt
M:4/4
L:1/8
Q:1/4=120
A:Stanton Harcourt
P:A2B4
K:Gm
P:A
GA|
B2AB G2cB |B2AB G2d2|e2c2 cdef|d2c2 B3d |
ccB2 A2G2 |FGFE D2d2|cBAG F2A2|G4   G2 ||
P:B
d=e|
f2d2 d=efd|g2d2 c4 |gg=ed cBAG|A2F2 F4 |
G2GA B2B2 |c2c2 g2g2|f2d2 e2fe|d2G2 c2dc|
BAGF GABc |d2d2 G2d2|cBAG F2A2|G4   G2 ||


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Princess Royal
From: Helen
Date: 31 Jul 03 - 01:36 AM

pattyClink,

The Contemplator site is probably my favourite music site on the 'Net, not counting Mudcat of course which is in a league of its own.

Helen


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Princess Royal
From: GUEST,Barry Winkworth
Date: 31 Jul 20 - 07:58 AM

Can anyone point me in the direction of notation for Sam Sweeney's version of Princess Royal on his album Unearth Repeat, please?

Many thanks
Barry


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Princess Royal
From: RTim
Date: 31 Jul 20 - 10:10 AM

The dance from Abingdon is called - "Princes' Royal".......

Tim Radford


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Princess Royal
From: GUEST,Barry Winkworth
Date: 01 Aug 20 - 05:00 AM

Here is a link to the Sam Sweeney track:

Sam Sweeney - Princess Royal

Can anyone advise which of the above ABC's is closest, please?

Thank you,
Barry


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Princess Royal
From: leeneia
Date: 01 Aug 20 - 10:59 AM

Hi, Barry. Thanks for the link to the Sam Sweeney recording. He is a fine fiddler. Basically he is playing the Turlough O'Carolan 'Princess Royal' embellished with typical fiddle ornaments and variations. It's easier to listen to them and imitate than to work out the notation.

In case you don't know, Carolan, also called O'Carolan, was an Irish harper and composer, died 1737, I believe.

At the site abcnotation.com you can search for Princess Royal and get lots of versions. The one Sam is playing is called 'Carolan's Princess Royal', and you can get sticks & dots, MIDI, PDF or ABC of it.

I am copying the ABC below just to spoil you. Enjoy.

X:2557
T:Carolan's Princess Royal
C:Turlough O Carolan
I:abc2nwc
L:1/16
M:2/4
Q:1/4=90
K:Bb
dc|B2A2 G2dc|B2A2 G2d2|e2ed c2fe|dedc B2d2|
cdcB ABAG|F2E2 D2dc|B2AG BAG^F|G4G2:|
|:d2|g2gf g2a2|b2B2 B2b2|bagf edcB|ABcA F2GA|
B2AB c2Bc|d2d2 g3g|f2d2 e2fe|dcB2 c3d|
cBBA GBAG|F2E2 D2dc|B2AG BAG^F|G4G2:|

=================
Threads on The Princess Royal get confused fast, because some songs called that seem to be about the woman, the Princess Royal (of whom there have been seven, ending in today's Princess Anne) and some of them are about a boat called The Princess Royal. Tunes vary, but the Carolan tune is probably the most common.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Princess Royal
From: GUEST,Barry Winkworth
Date: 03 Aug 20 - 12:04 PM

Thank you leeneia


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Princess Royal
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Aug 20 - 12:43 PM

There's a commemorative statue to O'Carolan in the centre of Mohill, Co Leitrim, just off the N4 Dublin- Sligo road.

If you're heading northwest and love his miusic, well worth a visit?


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Princess Royal
From: Helen
Date: 03 Aug 20 - 05:30 PM

Thanks Guest. If I ever make it to Ireland that statue to O'Carolan would be #1 on my list of places to go.

This thread has solved a mystery for me. I have heard different versions of The Princess Royal which seem like totally different tunes. Now I understand about its use in Morris dancing and working the tune to fit the dance moves.

O'Carolan's tune Miss MacDermott Roe/The Princess Royal is a beautiful tune.

The music notation is in the O'Carolan tunes section of
O'Neill's Music of Ireland

Scroll down to find Princess Royal (just before the Planxty tunes in the index) for links to music notation and a MIDI file.

Note: the Old Music Project, O'Neill's Music of Ireland is a brilliant site. One of my absolute favourite sites on the internet.

The tune was first published in the book by Edward Bunting The Ancient Music of Ireland

and later in the comprehensively researched book by Donal O'Sullivan: Carolan: The Life Times and Music of an Irish Harper


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Princess Royal
From: GeoffLawes
Date: 03 Aug 20 - 06:17 PM

A lot to choose from on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=princess+royal+tune+youtube


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