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Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: GUEST,forever undulating Date: 16 Jan 04 - 07:22 AM I saw the many minds that speake With such a flow and ebb Upon the little patch of thread That catters call the web it's like a mirror, bright and clear reflecting every face And every wand'ring mind that speaks upon this open space for as we mingle in this flood of faces, friends and foe we do reveal our own true hearts our inner secrets glow. while to ourselves we may be blind as our catharsis bleeds our psychic entrails flood the page within our words are seeds seeds of life and seeds of hope of bitterness and grief as in our public purging we ensure our own relief. would that i could see into my own soul as i can see in yours for then my own world would be whole effect would know its cause.. f.u. |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: GUEST,Jim Knowledge Date: 16 Jan 04 - 07:49 AM I once `ad that Wordsworth in my cab, I drove `im up to Brixto `ill. I asked `im what `e wanted there, `E said " To see a dafferdil". I says there aint one to be found. A dandelion p`raps or two. `E sighs and says to me in tears. "I s`pose that two`ll `ave to do" Copyright 2004 johnh.hills@virgin.net (Apologies to Hugh Jampton) |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 16 Jan 04 - 07:51 AM Various forms of sonnet - the one Amos cited (14 lines, ababcdcdefef gg) is the Shakespearian version. Also available in the original Petrarchian variety, the Spenserian and the Miltonic, all of which also have fourteen lines. There's also the Curtal-Sonnet invented by Gerard Manley Hopkins, which has ten and a half lines. And the metre in English normally is iambic pentametre. I didn't know all that off the top of my head - I checked it in a handy book called "A reader's guide to Literary Terms". And while doing so reminded of the enormous variety of poetical forms we don't bother to use. As Amos said up above, rhyme is not the beginning and end of verse. In fact it's completely dispensable. Getting the metre/rhythm right (even in free verse - in fact especially in free verse) is far more important - as with music, where getting the rhythm wrong is far more damaging than getting the notes wrong. |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: Amos Date: 16 Jan 04 - 08:49 AM JK, That was odd, but loverly! A |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: The Shambles Date: 16 Jan 04 - 10:28 AM The bottle may be shattered But it's the message that matters So if it washes on your shore Don't join the roars Of clashing egos and crashing bores Roger Gall 1997 As the point of both song and poetry is communication - does not the detail and form of how the idea is written, presented or performed matter far less than that the idea is conveyed? After the original idea is conveyed, many knowledgable critics may subsequently be able to identify the meter that a poet has used or the tune used by a songwriter and to suggests ways that it could be improved. |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: Thomas the Rhymer Date: 16 Jan 04 - 10:56 AM T'was I "Thomas the poet", forsooks in deed I would Fathom whats below it, there, the shelf where knick knacks stood For in those books of metered rhyme, are many forms and 'ameters And when I'm done with pickled time, I choose my own perameters But this is my organic toast to open and invention For twisted is the braggarts boast, exclusive intervention If you are so offended by a certain form or meter Your thoughts are not desended from beyond the gates of Peter A rhyme can be a rhythm's crown, though you'd distain to know it But cynics dominate the town, and aren't afraid to show it Nibble a carrot with a frown, illusions did not grow it Process does not know reknown, critique can't make a poet |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: The Shambles Date: 16 Jan 04 - 08:01 PM With appreciation and in the hope that imitation will be considered as the sincerest form of flattery. 'Ad that William Blake, on my bus 'Ad a 'bow of burning gold' I said " you can't bring that on 'ere Didn't do what 'e was told Produced these 'arrows of desire' The passengers got quite fruity Chucked 'im off before his sword woke up Well, I 'ad to do 'me duty Bugger me! I looked behind Missiles 'shootin' past 'me ears 'E was riding this 'chariot of fire' And 'chuckin all these spears 'E told the clouds - to unfold 'Then 'e overtook – the sod I told 'im to get off and walk 'Im and the 'Lamb of God'! I looked as 'e speed away Over 'those 'clouded hills' Me countenance - less than divine I 'ad one of me pills Thought about his building plans Though I admire a man with vision 'E 'ad better not go building 'ere Not without planning permission Well Jerusalem has trouble enough Don't think 'e will improve it England's pastures green or not Not the best idea to move it Move 'the wailing wall' to Surrey? Is 'e the one to try? For 'e's the bloke that tries to rhyme 'Symmetry' with 'eye' *Smiles* |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: Thomas the Rhymer Date: 16 Jan 04 - 10:07 PM Nice peice o wark! Truly up to date... A+ ttr |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: Cluin Date: 17 Jan 04 - 01:42 AM All sing in chorus: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings, On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings, On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings, On the cowardly nature of GUEST... Post... Ings!... We simply must... Say... I'm sorry. We're out of time. |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: The Shambles Date: 17 Jan 04 - 04:46 AM I did come up with another contribution for here but as it was bit musical and on-topic too - it can be seen by clicking on the following thread. What is folk? IN SONG |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: GUEST,Jim Knowledge Date: 17 Jan 04 - 07:15 AM Oi, Would you Adam & Eve it. That Shambles is only nicking my customers. I`ve got two wives, a baby and Stout and Bitter to support. Struth!! |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: The Shambles Date: 17 Jan 04 - 09:20 AM All of us knows our place No need to make a fuss Wordsworth can afford a taxi Billy Blake would take the bus LOL |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: The Shambles Date: 18 Jan 04 - 04:17 AM If we see ourselves - as others see us Maybe the truth will finally free us? BBC Radio 2 Folk message board |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: freda underhill Date: 18 Jan 04 - 07:53 AM if effect then knows its cause then we'll solve the planet's wars for each side will take some blame and then move on - to a different game. |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: GUEST,back to the top Date: 18 Jan 04 - 09:52 PM it worked |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 18 Jan 04 - 10:02 PM heloo, how do you write things in a different name? |
Subject: RE: BS: On the cowardly nature of GUEST postings From: Ella who is Sooze Date: 16 Feb 04 - 04:25 AM Dear all... I'm a bit perplexed and a little bit annoyed... But, the above postings by Guest ella, were not from me - I've just discovered this by looking for a thread I contributed to a while ago and didn't see for ages and spotted this ella. I don't get much time nowadays to post, so have been popping in a catching up on the threads when I can. With regards all Ella |