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Subject: Right, said Fred From: Murray on Saltspring Date: 24 Sep 98 - 02:53 AM An English friend is looking for a song with the burden "Right, said Fred, ... let's have another cup of tea." It seems to be English, maybe from the Fifties. Any ideas?? |
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Subject: Lyr Add: RIGHT, SAID FRED (M Rudge, T Dicks)^^ From: Joe Offer Date: 24 Sep 98 - 04:02 AM RIGHT, SAID FRED (Cup of Tea) ©1962, by Myles Rudge (lyrics) & Ted Dicks (music) "Right," said Fred, "Both of us together One on each end and steady as we go." Tried to shift it, couldn't even lift it We was getting nowhere And so we had a cuppa tea and "Right," said Fred, "Give a shout for Charlie." Up comes Charlie from the floor below. After strainin', heavin' and complainin' We was getting nowhere And so we had a cuppa tea. And Charlie had a think, and he thought we ought to take off all the handles And the things wot held the candles. But it did no good, well I never thought it would "All right," said Fred, "Have to take the feet off To get them feet off wouldn't take a mo." Took its feet off, even took the seat off Should have got us somewhere but no! So Fred said, "Let's have a cuppa tea." And we said, "right-o." "Right," said Fred, "Have to take the door off Need more space to shift the so-and-so." Had bad twinges taking off the hinges And it got us nowhere And so we had a cuppa tea and "Right," said Fred, " Have to take the wall down, That there wall is gonna have to go." Took the wall down, even with it all down We was getting nowhere And so we had a cuppa tea. And Charlie had a think, and he said, "Look, Fred, I get a sort of feelin' If we remove the ceilin' With a rope or two we could drop the blighter through." "All right," said Fred, climbing up a ladder With his crowbar gave a mighty blow. Was he in trouble, half a ton of rubble landed on the top of his dome. So Charlie and me had another cuppa tea And then we went home. (I said to Charlie, "We'll just have to leave it Standing on the landing, that's all Trouble with Fred is, he's too hasty Never get nowhere if you're too hasty.") Recorded by Gordon Bok & Cindy Kallet and by Cindy Mangsen and Steve Gillette early recording by Bernard Cribbins Anybody know more of a story behind this song? -Joe Offer- ^^ Click to play |
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Subject: RE: Right, said Fred From: Simon in New Zealand Date: 28 Sep 98 - 04:29 AM I remember this song when I was a child, the TV 'video?' clip showed two men moving a piano and 'getting nowhere'. That was along time ago. Same vintage as the 'Hole in the Ground' and 'Winkle Picker Shoes". |
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Subject: RE: Right, said Fred From: Martin Ryan Date: 29 Sep 98 - 03:54 AM The corner of my mind that remembers those days has been struggling to recall who recorded the three songs mentioned: Bernard Cribbins! Regards |
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Subject: RE: Right, said Fred From: Joe Offer Date: 29 Sep 98 - 04:13 AM Anybody got lyrics for 'Hole in the Ground' and 'Winkle Picker Shoes'? -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: Right, said Fred From: Martin Ryan Date: 29 Sep 98 - 11:57 AM Just a start:
There I was, a-digging this 'ole, 'ole in the ground Chorus Don't dig it there! Dig it elsewhere!
And the end:
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Regards |
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Subject: RE: Right, said Fred From: The Shambles Date: 29 Sep 98 - 01:59 PM Interesting fact (or not) about The Bernard Cribbins songs, they were produced in the early sixties by The Beatles producer George Martin. |
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Subject: RE: Right, said Fred From: Murray Date: 01 Oct 98 - 02:43 AM Thanks, Joe--my friend is delighted. Now what about these other songs from Cribbins and Co.? |
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Subject: RE: Right, said Fred From: Celtic-End Singer Date: 06 Oct 98 - 11:37 AM I think the current resurgence in popularity of this lovely little song may be due to the influence of Talk Radio UK DJ Nick Abbott, who has a habbit of playing samples from the recorded version on his radio show almost every night, which you can hear anywhere in the UK (and beyond)every weekday between 7pm and 9pm 1053AM and 1089AM. Thanks for raising the subject I've been trying to find lyrics for this for ages. |
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Subject: RE: Right, said Fred From: The Shambles Date: 06 Oct 98 - 01:30 PM If you are interested about that same time George Martin produced L.P for Peter Sellars called The Best Of Sellars. It is really worth checking out if you can. There is one track that stands out in my mind. It is about a Folk Music collector trying to record the 'real thing'. The best one is the Irish Session, where it all goes a bit wrong. |
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Subject: RE: Right, said Fred From: Joe Offer Date: 31 Aug 00 - 07:00 PM Anybody got a tune? |
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Subject: RE: Right, said Fred From: Bill D Date: 31 Aug 00 - 07:13 PM it's just 'barely' a tune, Joe...more like a melodic chant..*grin*...maybe a bit more tune than talking blues..(do you have HearMe?..I could 'sing' it for you. |
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Subject: RE: Right, said Fred From: Liz the Squeak Date: 31 Aug 00 - 07:16 PM Ah sure, that was a bum note you played there Seamus.... that's all I remember about the Irish Session one.... it errupts into a fist fight. LTS |
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Subject: RE: Right, said Fred From: Bill D Date: 31 Aug 00 - 07:17 PM ohhh.wait...you want the tune to 'Fred' or the "Irish Session"..or something else? |
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Subject: ADD: Right Said Fred ^^ From: Joe Offer Date: 31 Aug 00 - 07:17 PM Bill, I've got a recording from Hills/Herdman/Mangsen, but truly would like to hear your rendition some day. I'm looking for a tune for inclusion in the database. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: Right, said Fred From: Bill D Date: 31 Aug 00 - 08:03 PM The 'tune'I use is from a tape of David Jones at the Mariposa festival maybe 20-25 years ago.... |
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Subject: RE: Right, said Fred From: John in Brisbane Date: 31 Aug 00 - 08:25 PM Joe, I have the tune for Fred firmly planted in my head. I'll try and set up my MIDI keyboard at the weekend, but I must admit that my keyboard timing is not my forte. Still. I need the practice. Regards, John |
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Subject: RE: Right, said Fred From: CamiSu Date: 31 Aug 00 - 10:23 PM Cuppa Tea is also on the February Tapes, which Gordon Bok an friends did several years ago. You can get them from Gordon, or Anne Dodson, but I don't think they're for sale in most stores. |
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Subject: RE: Right, said Fred From: GUEST,Alex Date: 01 Sep 00 - 01:46 AM Hey, John, I'd just like to say for the record that I got your 'orrible pun about your keyboard not being your forte! |
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Subject: RE: Right, said Fred From: Joan from Wigan Date: 01 Sep 00 - 03:43 AM The Guinness Book Of Hits Of The Sixties lists three of Bernard Cribbins' songs as having charted: Hole in the Ground, Right Said Fred, and Gossip Calypso. Shamefully, I can't recall Gossip Calypso. Anyone? Joan |
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Subject: RE: Right, said Fred From: Naemanson Date: 01 Sep 00 - 04:58 AM I've got Cuppa Tea on a David Jones cassette, Songs of Exquisite Taste. It's listed as "Right!" Said Fred. I've heard him do it in person where he only introduces it as particularly moving song by Bernard Cribbins. |
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Subject: RE: Right, said Fred From: John in Brisbane Date: 01 Sep 00 - 08:49 AM Well done Alex, I'm so pleased I made somebody groan. POETS, John. |
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Subject: RE: Right, said Fred From: Snuffy Date: 01 Sep 00 - 09:13 AM I'll have a go at a MIDITEXT of RSF tonight. As for Gossip Calypso, the chorus went:
Gossip Calypso, Gossip Calypso, And one of the verses went something like:
Well, have you heard, dear, Wassail! V |
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Subject: Tune Add: RIGHT, SAID FRED From: Snuffy Date: 01 Sep 00 - 04:28 PM Click to playTo play or display ABC tunes, try concertina.netABC format: X:1 Wassail! V |
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Subject: RE: Right, said Fred From: GUEST,The Invisible Blazoona Date: 02 Sep 00 - 04:10 PM The pride of the "obscure" section of my record collection is a version of "Right Said Fred" sung by Jessica Mitford and Maya Angelou on the aptly named "Don't Quit Your Day Job" record label. |
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Subject: RE: Right, said Fred From: Joe Offer Date: 02 Sep 00 - 05:34 PM Blazoona, I'd say you wint the "Obscurity Award" for the day. I'd love to hear that recording, though. I have two recordings of the song, and I can't decide which I like better. Gordon Bok and Cindy Kallet do a great job on their Neighbors album, but Steve Gillette and Cindy Mangsen also do it nicely on their Light of Day album. Sure is a great song. Wish I could remember all the words and get the tune straight, so I could sing it myself. Thanks for posting the tune, Snyffy. I e-mailed it to Alan of Australia, and it should appear soon at Mudcat MIDIs. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: Right, said Fred From: Callie Date: 02 Sep 00 - 07:09 PM "Right Said Fred" was included in the Australian Broadcasting Commission's list of songs taught to kids in schools in 1977 or thereabouts. Consequently, most 32 year olds in Australia know the song! |
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Subject: RE: Right, said Fred From: Alan of Australia Date: 10 Sep 00 - 09:15 AM G'day, Thanks to Snuffy and Joe, the tune for "Right Said Fred" can be found here at the Mudcat MIDI site.
Cheers, |
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Subject: Lyr Add: GOSSIP CALYPSO (from Bernard Cribbins) From: Sorcha Date: 28 Jul 03 - 12:28 PM GOSSIP CALYPSO Bernard Cribbins
CHORUS: Gossip calypso, Gossip calypso,
Oh, Mrs Brown, well how are you now? I tell you,
Mrs Booze, have you heard the news? That woman,
Oh, Mrs Ware, I do like your hair. who does it?
[No sound file found. Lyrics from: |
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Subject: Lyr Add: RIGHT SAID FRED (from Bernard Cribbins) From: Sorcha Date: 28 Jul 03 - 12:29 PM RIGHT SAID FRED Bernard Cribbins Right said Fred, both of us together, one each end and steady as we go. Tried to shift it, couldn't even lift it, we was getting nowhere, And so, we, had a cup of tea and Right said Fred, give a shout to Charlie, up comes Charlie from the floor below. After straining, heaving and complaining, we was getting nowhere, And so, we, had a cup of tea and Charlie had a think and he thought we ought, to take off all the handles And the things what held the candles, but it did no good, well I never thought it would. Oh, right said Fred, have to take the feet off; to get them feet off wouldn't take a mo. Took its feet off, even took the seat off, should've got us somewhere, but no. So Fred said lets have another cup of tea and we said right-o. Oh, right said Fred, have to take the door off, need more space to shift the so-and-so. Had bad twinges taking off the hinges, and it got us nowhere, And so, we, had a cup of tea and Right said Fred, have to take the wall down, that there wall is gonna have to go. Took the wall down, even with it all down, we was getting nowhere, And so, we, had a cup of tea and Charlie had a think and he said look Fred, I've got a sort of feeling. If we remove the ceiling, with a rope or two we could drop the blighter though. Oh, right said Fred, climbing up a ladder, with his crowbar gave a mighty blow. Was he in trouble, half a ton of rubble, landed on the top of his dome, So Charlie and me had another cup of tea and then we went home. [SPOKEN:] I said to Charlie we'll just have to leave it standing on the landing that's all. You see the trouble with Fred is he's too hasty. Now you never get nowhere if you're too hasty. RA file here: http://www.rexbrough.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/rsfr.html Songwriter Information: by Ted Dicks (music) and Myles Rudge (lyrics) -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: Lyr Add: HOLE IN THE GROUND (from Bernard Cribbins From: Sorcha Date: 28 Jul 03 - 12:30 PM HOLE IN THE GROUND Bernard Cribbins There I was, a-digging this hole A hole in the ground, so big and sort of round it was There was I, digging it deep It was flat at at the bottom and the sides were steep When along, comes this bloke in a bowler which he lifted and scratched his head Well we looked down the hole, poor demented soul and he said Do you mind if I make a suggestion? Don't dig there, dig it elsewhere Your digging it round and it ought to be square The shape of it's wrong, it's much much too long And you can't put hole wher a hole don't belong I ask, what a liberty eh Nearly bashed him right in the bowler Well there was I, stood in me hole Shovelling earth for all I was worth There was him, standing up there So grand and official with his nose in the air So I gave him a look sort of sideways and I leaned on my shvel and sighed Well I lit me a fag and having took a drag I replied I just couldnít bear, to dig it elsewhere I'm digging it round co's I donít want it square And if you disagree it don't bother me Thatís the place where the holes gonna be Well there we were, disscussing this hole A hole in the groud so big and sort of round Well it's not there now, the groundrs all flat And beneath it is the bloke in the bowler hat And that's that RA file here: http://www.rexbrough.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/hitg.html Songwriter Information: by Ted Dicks (music) and Myles Rudge (lyrics) -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: Right Said Fred / Bernard Cribbins songs From: Joe Offer Date: 28 Jul 03 - 01:21 PM Was Cribbins the songwriter on these three, or did he just record them? Now, can we find "Winkle Picker Shoes" -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: Right Said Fred From: Murray MacLeod Date: 28 Jul 03 - 01:22 PM Well done Sorcha. For the record, the name of the artist who recorded these masterpieces has been misspelled Godknowshowmanytimes on this thread. Hs name is BERNARD CRIBBINS. Devotees of Fawlty Towers (of whom there are many in the States as well as here) may oe may not be aware of the fact that Bernard Cribbins appeared in one of the funniest episodes of all, the one about the Hotel Inspectors. He played the part of the cutlery salesman who Basil mistakenly assumes to be a hotel inspector. I recollect the classic dialogue ... "Are the peas fresh ? Yes of course they are. They're not frozen ? Well, yes they're frozen, but they were fresh before they were frozen." Murray Thanks for the spelling info. I have made the corrections. Whew! --JoeClone, 15-Aug-03. |
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Subject: RE: Right Said Fred / Bernard Cribbins songs From: Sorcha Date: 28 Jul 03 - 01:23 PM Home site for the lyrics says "Hole In the Ground/Wrinkle Picker Shoes". Don't know if that means they are the same song. |
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Subject: RE: Right Said Fred / Bernard Cribbins songs From: Sorcha Date: 28 Jul 03 - 01:26 PM And, Joe, it appears that Cribbins was a recording artist, not the songwriter. |
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Subject: RE: Right Said Fred / Bernard Cribbins songs From: Snuffy Date: 28 Jul 03 - 07:37 PM "Hole In the Ground/Winkle Picker Shoes" would be the A & B sides of a 45 single. |
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Subject: RE: Right Said Fred / Bernard Cribbins songs From: kendall Date: 28 Jul 03 - 08:31 PM So, who has the words to :Why Paddy's Not at work today"? By the way, what the hell were they trying to move? Was ir an organ? |
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Subject: RE: Right Said Fred / Bernard Cribbins songs From: GUEST,mike leatt Date: 28 Jul 03 - 08:46 PM Bernard Cribbins is an actor who has appeared in Carry On films etc. His records are of a novalty variety such as Lee Marvin etc. who, probably, should not be let loose near a michrophone !!! |
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Subject: RE: Right Said Fred / Bernard Cribbins songs From: GUEST,Anne Croucher Date: 28 Jul 03 - 09:02 PM It was never specified as to what exactly it was they were moving - but I always envisaged a pianola style instrument - doors to the place for storing the rolls, candlesticks, bench seat etc. The fresh/frozen thing is going to run and run - we get 'fresh frozen' printed on packs of sweetcorn now and that is just not possible - either it is fresh, or frozen you just don't get both - not in English. Anne Croucher |
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Subject: RE: Right Said Fred / Bernard Cribbins songs From: Sorcha Date: 28 Jul 03 - 09:14 PM Thanks, Snuffy. |
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Subject: RE: Right Said Fred / Bernard Cribbins songs From: GUEST,Wyrd Sister Date: 29 Jul 03 - 03:45 PM OK, so how about words to 'It was on a (Monday etc) morning-O, the (weather facts here: rain it was a-raining/day was not a hot one). Saga about a double bed. Ends up 'did she answer, not a word, for she'd been struck by lightning. And all at once the weather started brightening....' |
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Subject: RE: Right Said Fred / Bernard Cribbins songs From: Ralphie Date: 30 Jul 03 - 04:16 AM And Wyrd, while we are on the subject of lost Cribbins.... "Verily, thou art two faced, and protesting, thou art chaste, is verily, very verily, hardly the best of taste. thou wert doing, the pursuing, verily...!" And don't mention The Bird on the Second Floor ! Ralphie |
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Subject: RE: Right Said Fred / Bernard Cribbins songs From: Nigel Parsons Date: 30 Jul 03 - 04:47 AM Wyrd Sister: All The While or "She'd been struck by lightning is in the DT Nigel |
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Subject: RE: Right Said Fred / Bernard Cribbins songs From: Nigel Parsons Date: 30 Jul 03 - 04:54 AM Guest Anne Croucher: I believe a piano was intended, as even then a pianola (with doors concealing the works and spare rolls) was not a commonplace. The 'Door' referred is not part of the piano: "Have to take the door off, - Need more space to shift the so and so" would sem to suggest removing an internal house door to create more space . Nigel Messages from multiple threads combined. Messages below are from a new thread. |
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Subject: Lyr Req: Right Said Fred - final detail From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 31 Jul 03 - 09:46 AM It's been a battle, but I have managed to fit all the words to Right Said Fred to the MIDI supplied by Joe Offer. But the following words don't seem to fit. "I said to Char-lie, "We'll just have to leave it Standing on the landing, that's all. Trouble with Fred is, he's too hasty Never get nowhere if you're too hasty." Are they a spoken tag that came after the rest of the song? ----------- Someone made the comment that the song didn't have much of a tune, and I agreed at the time I read it. However, after working with the MIDI, I conclude that Certain People have been performing the song without knowing the tune. ------------- Thanks to the people who made this song possible. I visualize singing it with my husband at the next family gathering. It will amaze and delight the gang. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Right Said Fred - final detail From: Kevin Sheils Date: 31 Jul 03 - 09:59 AM From memory (long time ago) the original recording did fade out on a spoken section so you may be right. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Right Said Fred - final detail From: GUEST,Fred Date: 31 Jul 03 - 10:06 AM Yes - the last bit is a spoken tag it's still on the landing - there is now a visitor's centre & a museum in the building dedicated to me |
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Subject: RE: Right Said Fred / Bernard Cribbins songs From: Joe Offer Date: 31 Jul 03 - 10:51 AM You can blame Snuffy for the tune, leeneia. Bill D will attest to the fact that I am one of those Certain People that tend to take liberties with tunes (or ignore them completely). I wonder about songwriters Miles Rudge and Ted Dicks - and Bernard Cribbins, for that matter. Are they Americans, English, or what? I imagine "Fred" as a New England song, probably becasue I've only heard New Englanders sing it. It musta been Fred or somebody started a second new thread on the "Fred" song, and I couldn't see a reason to split the discussion. So, I had a cuppa joe, and then I combined the three threads. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: Right Said Fred / Bernard Cribbins songs From: Kevin Sheils Date: 31 Jul 03 - 10:58 AM Bernard is definitely English, Joe, so I guess the songwriters are as well. As referred to above he was a regular in the "Carry On" films as well as an appearance in Fawlty Towers. |
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Subject: RE: Right Said Fred / Bernard Cribbins songs From: Steve Parkes Date: 31 Jul 03 - 12:00 PM Not to mention the policeman in the first-ever BBC Comedy Playhouse, Barbara's dozy boyfriend Ian[?] (also a PC) in that awful film Dr Who and the Daleks, all the voices for The Wombles (original BBC version), Perks in The Railway Children ... and so many charcter parts in almost everything else. Steve |
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