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Subject: Lee Hays/Robert Koppelman
From: Bill Hahn//\\
Date: 12 Mar 04 - 07:15 PM

I hope you can join me at 8 A M( Eastern time )this Sunday (3/14) when I have a fascinating interview with Robert Koppelman. He is the author of a wonderful book of the writings of Lee Hays--with a wonderful intro and bio of the man.   The commentaries preceding the pieces written by Hays are fascintating; and the interview shows us a whole different side of a man we know mostly as the bass singer in The Weavers.

You can listen on line
http://www.wfdu.fm

If you are in our area (NY NJ CT) we are at 89.1 FM


Bill Hahn
Producer/Host
Tabletalk/Traditions
WFDU


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Subject: RE: Lee Hays/Robert Koppelman
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 12 Mar 04 - 08:05 PM

It is also the 90th anniversary of the birth of Lee Hays on Sunday!


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Subject: RE: Lee Hays/Robert Koppelman
From: John Hindsill
Date: 13 Mar 04 - 07:11 PM

Do you folks archive these programs for time shifting on the Sunset Coast? 5am is awfully early, especially on Sunday?
--John (still asleep when you start.)


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Subject: RE: Lee Hays/Robert Koppelman
From: Joe Offer
Date: 14 Mar 04 - 11:56 AM

I'm on the U.S. West Coast, too, and I missed the broadcast. Those of you who heard, please let us know what you learned.
I'm reading Joe Klein's biography of Woody Guthrie, which also gives a lot of information about Lee Hays and Pete Seeger and Millard Lampell and a host of others. Klein doesn't have much good to say about Hays, whom he describes as an ill-tempered hypochondriac.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Lee Hays/Robert Koppelman
From: Joe Offer
Date: 18 Mar 04 - 12:01 AM

refresh


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Subject: RE: Lee Hays/Robert Koppelman
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Mar 04 - 11:09 PM

Is there one-week-later - replay?


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Subject: RE: Lee Hays/Robert Koppelman
From: Bill Hahn//\\
Date: 20 Apr 04 - 06:33 PM

No--but in fact I think I will re-air it in about 2 months. I will keep the list posted.

Bill Hahn
Tabletalk/Traditions


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Subject: RE: Lee Hays/Robert Koppelman
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 08:56 AM

Bill,

Assuming this is the same programme referred to in the *other* "Lee Hays/Robert Koppelman" thread (the first time I clicked on this one I wondered if I had been imagining the other one!), does that mean that it has now already re-aired?

YY
(hoping the answer is "no"...)


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Subject: RE: Lee Hays/Robert Koppelman
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 09:18 AM

Bill has two shows -one called Tabletalk and another called Traditions(which he shares with me).   Bill had Koppelman on both shows recently, and he will be re-airing the Tabletalk program.

Ron


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Subject: RE: Lee Hays/Robert Koppelman
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 03:18 PM

Thanks, Ron... i was getting just a wee bit confused...

YY


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Subject: RE: Lee Hays/Robert Koppelman
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 03:53 PM

Sorry about the confusion! This thread was started when Bill had Robert Koppelman on his program Tabletalk ("interesting conversations with interesting people"). Bill co-hosts Traditions with me, and last week Koppelman was Bill's guest on that show. Bill will be re-running the Tabletalk interview with Koppleman, and he will update this thread when it happens.

To confuse matters even more, I also host two programs on WFDU. I created Traditions back in 1980, a folk music program which is now the longest running program on WFDU. In 2000 I began a Celtic music based program called The Sunday Session.

WFDU broadcasts at 89.1FM in the NYC area, and we stream audio on the internet at www.wfdu.fm (except last weekend when the server was down!)   We are a non-commercial station owned and operated by Fairleigh Dickinson University. Bill and I are volunteers at the station. You can PM either of us, or send us an e-mail at wfdutraditions@aol.com if you have any further questions.

Thanks again for your interest!

Ron


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Subject: RE: Lee Hays/Robert Koppelman
From: Bill Hahn//\\
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 04:43 PM

I should add at this point that the Tabletalk interview--which this thread is-- focuses on the writings of Lee Hays. He was a wonderful essayist as well as a writer of mysteries. Many published in Ellery Queen Magazine. One story won some very prestigious awards. That interview runs 30 minutes.

The other interview for the Traditions program focuses on Lee Hays music and monologues that he performed with the Weavers. That one runs about 1 hour. I am sure I will be re airing it at some time if there is enough interest in my doing so.


Bill Hahn
Traditions/Tabletalk
WFDU 89.1 FM


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Subject: RE: Lee Hays/Robert Koppelman
From: bflat
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 12:04 AM

Yes, please do a re-airing.


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Subject: RE: Lee Hays/Robert Koppelman
From: GUEST,Robert Koppelman
Date: 05 May 04 - 02:39 PM

I am honored to have been a guest with Bill Hahn on two programs recently, discussing my recently published anthology of writings by Lee Hays. Thanks to all of you for listening.

Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions, comments, or further interest in this book.

Robert Koppelman

rkoppelm@aol.com

rkoppelm@broward.edu


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Subject: RE: Lee Hays/Robert Koppelman
From: Once Famous
Date: 05 May 04 - 04:44 PM

I am wondering about Lee Hays.

Was he in reality a drunk? I have heard that he was and would like some clarification on this.

Also, I have read that Lee Hays was detrimental to the Weavers winning young folk fans and being a part of the great folk scare during the late 50s/early 60s due to the fact that Hays was, well so old looking.

Any thoughts on this?


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Subject: RE: Lee Hays/Robert Koppelman
From: Bill Hahn//\\
Date: 05 May 04 - 05:50 PM

I am sure that Mr. Koppelman would be able to give you a more definitive answer than I can; and, so, I would recommend you read his very readable and informative book.

But to say that Lee Hays was a creative force in the group would be an understatement---he may well have been the core of the group. He also related to children with another group--The Babysitters (which included the young Alan Arkin). He was also a prolific author of essays and short stories.

Again--I recommend you read the book for a wonderful read and insight into Lee Hays. An earlier book by Doris Willens is also a must read on the subject.

Bill Hahn


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Subject: RE: Lee Hays/Robert Koppelman
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 05 May 04 - 10:45 PM

Doris Willens books is a must read. Robert Koppelman did a superb job collecting Hays writing, but it is not a biography.   Doris Willens was a member of the Babysitters with Hays and she had access to his files and friends when she wrote her biography of him. The two books really will give you a great insight into Lee Hays.

I really can't comment on the first question Martin, but as for the second part, I don't think the age and/or look of Lee Hays had anything to do with the Weavers not winning folk fans during the late 50's and early 60's. If anything, Hays was very welcoming to young fans and his home in Croton became something of a mecca for many during the latter decades of his life. In fact, the movie, Wasn't That A Time, was created by a young fan.   The Weavers did not win many new fans during that period because their time had passed, unfortunately.

Hays was by many reports difficult to work with. The Weavers during the "folk scare" of the late 50's and 60's were rather passe by that time, in my opinion. Seeger had left the group and while I think the recordings that came after he left are every bit as good as when he was a member, the Weavers were faced with an uphill battle. The effects of the blacklist was still strong, and they could not get gigs on TV and very little radio airplay. The traditionalists who were taking hold of the folk scene also downplayed the Weavers for many of the same reasons that the Kingston Trio were looked down upon. The Weavers commercialized the sound of folk music, they copyrighted traditional songs, and they were not singing in "authentic" styles. Tastes had changed. However, many of the musicians who came of age during that period often point to the Carnegie Hall comeback album of '55 as an inspiration.

While the Weavers at Carnegie Hall albums were seminal recordings, I contend that it was really the 1980 "comeback" that solidified the Weaver's stature in the folk world. That brilliant documentary and album reminded everyone of what they accomplished, plus it glossed over the "orchestra" sound of their early 50's "hits" and I don't remember there being a single mention of Seeger's replacements in the group. It captured the original four Weavers, told their story, and showed how their music was still vibrant and important in the 1980's.

I was at the Clearwater festival for their final appearance, a few months before Lee Hays passed away. They billed it as a "rehearsal", and it truly had that feel. However, I do remember a huge crowed had gathered that year to witness the event, young and old. It was a way of saying "good-bye" and "thank you".


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Subject: RE: Lee Hays/Robert Koppelman
From: GUEST,banjopicker
Date: 28 Nov 11 - 07:24 PM

I always thought about that too after watching the documentary 30 thousand times ( about why the other members weren't mentioned ) I think Lee really missed them as it shows when hes talking about petes circle and seasons album and hears fred and ronnie on the last track he gets kind of emoitional. I dont think Erik was doing the music thing at that time. Personally I think that Lee wanted the orginal four to preform one last time together and to hang out one last time because he knew his time was coming. Of course I cant speak for the guy but thats what I think anyways. Im not sure what Frank or Bernie or Erik werent credited it at all I know lee wrote the script for the movie though


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