BS: Marketing & Hard Selling Kerry for Prez

Subject: BS: Marketing & Hard Selling Kerry for Prez
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 08:43 PM

So how many progressive left Democrats do you suppose this "New Democrat" strategy will fire up?

From today's Washington Post:


Old-School Team To Sell Kerry as Modern Centrist

By Jim VandeHei
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, April 21, 2004; Page A01


As he prepares for the most ambitious and defining phase of his presidential candidacy, Sen. John F. Kerry (Mass.) is relying on image-makers schooled in traditional Kennedy liberalism to sell himself anew to voters as a 21st-century centrist Democrat, a muscular hawk on national defense and deficits...

It is Shrum's word and Kiley's polling data and Donilon's ads shaping a soon-to-be-released media campaign introducing Kerry to voters in battleground states. But it is Mary Beth Cahill, campaign manager and another longtime adviser to Kennedy, calling the final shots and overseeing the fast-growing operation.

Their lofty mission: to set aside a long-running feud within the Democratic Party over its direction to position Kerry as the presidential candidate who is pro-national defense, pro-middle-class tax cuts, pro-balanced budgets -- with the rhetorical dash and inspiration of John F. Kennedy, a hero to Kerry and many of his top aides.

For instance, Kerry and his advisers seek to blend a traditional populist rant against big corporations with policies designed, in part, to placate business -- such as his across-the-board tax break for corporations...

...Cahill said Kerry has great flexibility in repositioning the party because liberals are more concerned about winning the White House than the ideological war...

Subject: RE: BS: Marketing & Hard Selling Kerry for Prez
From: el ted
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 10:31 AM

Boring.

Subject: RE: BS: Marketing & Hard Selling Kerry for Prez
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 11:29 AM

I found it quite interesting actually. Especially that part where Kerry's campaign manager said that liberals are more interested in winning, than in ideology.

Looks to me like they are obsessed with winning, regardless of the cost, and will say and do anything to get elected. Now I agree, that is no different than most politicians, so I do understand how that could be boring for you, el ted. But if you are so bored with these threads, why do you keep reading them and adding your "boring" posts? Do you really expect me to care if you find what I write boring?

Subject: RE: BS: Marketing & Hard Selling Kerry for Prez
From: el ted
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 11:36 AM

Nope. Just expressing an opinion like the rest of of do. just not at such great length.

Subject: RE: BS: Marketing & Hard Selling Kerry for Prez
From: Rapparee
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 11:39 AM

So what else is new? (yawn) Bush is doing the same. If Nader had the bucks he would too.

Subject: RE: BS: Marketing & Hard Selling Kerry for Prez
From: Amos
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 12:02 PM

The same complaint -- that they will say anything to have their way -- ha sbeen levied against Bush and company many times. Politics brings out strange traits, but I would say Kerry is far less of a deceiver than Bush, who is obsessive about lying.

And, m.ted, go play with yourself. Your boredom is your problem.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Marketing & Hard Selling Kerry for Prez
From: el ted
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 12:18 PM

It's el ted, not m.ted. m.ted is a different mudcat character.

Subject: RE: BS: Marketing & Hard Selling Kerry for Prez
From: M.Ted
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 05:00 PM

Yes, I am a very different Mudcat character than El Ted--but I think that Kerry is boring, as well. I don't want him to be boring, but he is--

Instead of emphasizing all the stuff listed above, I would like someone to teach him to speak in simple, declarative sentences--and to remember that, in order to survive on TV, you have to say things that the average 10 year old can understand. That is not a bad thing--I remember that there is scientific rule of thumb that goes, "If you can't explain it so a 10 year old understands it, you probably don't understand it yourself."

As to wanting to be president, Kerry needs to want to be president more than anything else, and who projects that to the voters. The truth of the matter is that the presidency always goes to the person who makes becoming president more important than anything else--no one wants a president who has other priorities--

Subject: RE: BS: Marketing & Hard Selling Kerry for Prez
From: Amos
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 05:34 PM

http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,63179,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_1

should bring you to this article which is an update on the Wired story.

Sorry for the bad link.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Marketing & Hard Selling Kerry for Prez
From: Amos
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 05:35 PM

My profound apologies for confusing you with el ted, M. Ted!


A

Subject: RE: BS: Marketing & Hard Selling Kerry for Prez
From: M.Ted
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 06:53 PM

And after all we've be through, Amos;-) I am not confusing you with anybody else, though, since Marion was just here and I grilled her thoroughly about all the folks she has visited--

Subject: RE: BS: Marketing & Hard Selling Kerry for Prez
From: Amos
Date: 22 Apr 04 - 07:51 PM

Oh, it was just a passing dyslexia -- it wasn't the persons I confused!! That would be TOO insulting. :>)

A