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BS: Chocolate...

GUEST,Peter 06 Jun 04 - 05:42 AM
Liz the Squeak 05 Jun 04 - 08:25 PM
The Fooles Troupe 05 Jun 04 - 07:35 PM
beardedbruce 05 Jun 04 - 05:39 PM
fat B****rd 05 Jun 04 - 03:42 PM
Megan L 05 Jun 04 - 03:38 PM
Clinton Hammond 05 Jun 04 - 03:23 PM
Herga Kitty 05 Jun 04 - 01:43 PM
Georgiansilver 05 Jun 04 - 12:56 PM
Stilly River Sage 05 Jun 04 - 12:28 PM
Metchosin 05 Jun 04 - 12:14 PM
Liz the Squeak 05 Jun 04 - 11:23 AM
Blackcatter 05 Jun 04 - 11:16 AM
paddymac 05 Jun 04 - 09:16 AM
LadyJean 05 Jun 04 - 01:38 AM
dianavan 05 Jun 04 - 01:18 AM
Lady Hillary 04 Jun 04 - 11:08 PM
Peace 04 Jun 04 - 06:24 PM
beardedbruce 04 Jun 04 - 06:10 PM
Clinton Hammond 04 Jun 04 - 05:30 PM
harpmaker 04 Jun 04 - 05:27 PM
GUEST 04 Jun 04 - 04:46 PM
beardedbruce 04 Jun 04 - 04:43 PM
GUEST,disgruntled 04 Jun 04 - 04:40 PM
beardedbruce 04 Jun 04 - 04:27 PM
Emma B 04 Jun 04 - 04:23 PM
GUEST 04 Jun 04 - 04:10 PM
beardedbruce 04 Jun 04 - 04:09 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: Chocolate...
From: GUEST,Peter
Date: 06 Jun 04 - 05:42 AM

The benefits are negated by mixing with milk and it's no good expecting anything other than a coronary from the standard British chocolate flavoured hydroginated fat bar from Cadburys.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chocolate...
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 05 Jun 04 - 08:25 PM

I'd rather eat a pound of chocolate than a pound of liquorice - with chocolate I'd be able to leave the bathroom!

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Chocolate...
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 05 Jun 04 - 07:35 PM

There are a couple of very famous (to foodies!) recipies with chocolate as a serious ingredient. I think one was 'Turkey & Chocolate Sauce'. You use dark chocolate. The bitterness is its key contributing aspect to the dishes.

MasterFoods Australia did (I suspect a trial run only) a "Cocoa Pepper" dry blend sprinkle bottle condiment - a truly amazing bitter sweet taste (marked as 'Mild') for barbequed steak & chicken - it also contains cassia, sugar, salt, 'spices'.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chocolate...
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Jun 04 - 05:39 PM

... my only contribution to the DT has chocolate in it...


I believe the active ingredient is theobromine, or something like that.

ANybody have any more info?


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Subject: RE: BS: Chocolate...
From: fat B****rd
Date: 05 Jun 04 - 03:42 PM

And do not forget, Clinton..Licorice (?) gives you a run for your money.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chocolate...
From: Megan L
Date: 05 Jun 04 - 03:38 PM

Ah well I suppose I had better stop reading this and go make my infamous chocolate dessert for the church lunch tommorow.

Biscuit crumb base then melt together 1lb very dark chocolate, 1pint double cream and some alchol of choice, pour over base and let set. not at all fattening :)


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Subject: RE: BS: Chocolate...
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 05 Jun 04 - 03:23 PM

I personally think that chocolate is the single most over-rated flavour in the human pallet...

Give me black licorice any day over chocolate!

:-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Chocolate...
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 05 Jun 04 - 01:43 PM

When you're feeling down, the best way up is chocolate - Marcus Turner obviously got that right!

Kitty


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Subject: RE: BS: Chocolate...
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 05 Jun 04 - 12:56 PM

Not read any of the previous threads on this "Topic" (scuse the pun) but there is an enzyme in chocolate which works on the endorphins in the brain to give one a feeling similar to that one gets when in love.
This is the likely reason for many people (mostly women and this is not sexist) turning to chocolate for comfort after marriage or relationship break up. Enjoy your chocolate folks. Be Blessed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chocolate...
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 05 Jun 04 - 12:28 PM

Lady Hillary, I agree--I made a similar discovery last week. I stopped off at a little Russian cafe, bakery, and gift shop near where I work. They had a large bar of dark chocolate with cranberries--it was the best chocolate we've tried in years. It wasn't inexpensive, though.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Chocolate...
From: Metchosin
Date: 05 Jun 04 - 12:14 PM

No BS - Have a Little Slavery with your Chocolate


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Subject: RE: BS: Chocolate...
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 05 Jun 04 - 11:23 AM

Not to mention all the songs about chocolate.......

I've been telling my doctors for years that chocolate isn't just a treat, it's a way of life - maybe they'll believe me now.

I'm also wondering if I could change my religion to Mayan - that would surely count for something?

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Chocolate...
From: Blackcatter
Date: 05 Jun 04 - 11:16 AM

Hi Clinton - not that I care about this thread, but it appears we only had 4 threads prior to this one and all were fairly short (69 the longest - and who doesn't like a long 69? - Somebody squeeze the hot fudge on me!)

Here are those other threads:

Complete BS (Hot Chocolate)

SEX MEETS CHOCOLATE

BS: Your favorite chocolate cake recipe

BS: 10 reasons chocolate is better than men


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Subject: RE: BS: Chocolate...
From: paddymac
Date: 05 Jun 04 - 09:16 AM

GUINNESS, and, presumably, kindred very dark beers, is/are also a very good source of bioflavinoids. Sure, 'tis the only reason I drink the stuff meself. Perhaps not so coincidentaly, Guinness and chocolate are a very pleasant combination. Brucie's chow-co-la-tay is also said by some to be quite companionable to a cool pint. Of the three, however, the pint is the least caloric, although the high caloric impact of chow-co-la-tay is mostly indirect. )-:


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Subject: RE: BS: Chocolate...
From: LadyJean
Date: 05 Jun 04 - 01:38 AM

I reccomend Tobelrone bars for PMS. I had PMS in Switzerland once, and I hardly noticed it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chocolate...
From: dianavan
Date: 05 Jun 04 - 01:18 AM

I'm a chocolate lover and was glad to hear these statistics (as small and insignificant as they may be) but would caution mothers who breast feed to pay attention. My mother warned me that if I ate chocolate and breast fed, it would give the baby diarrhea. I thought it was just another 'old wives tale' but ... turns out it was the same for me and mine. Maybe this is just a genetic predisposition but beware. Oddly enough, chocolate doesn't have the same physical effect on me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chocolate...
From: Lady Hillary
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 11:08 PM

We are hereby offering to take part in a replication of this study.

The study group was really not large enought for true statistical significance. To really do this correctly, the groups should be at least 100 each, possibly nested with several different types of each type of chocolate within each of the major variables.

[I just discovered a really good imported Russian dark which tastes richer than Lindt and costs less.]

EBarnacle and Lady Hillary


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Subject: RE: BS: Chocolate...
From: Peace
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 06:24 PM

Chaw-co-la-tay (with the accent on the third syllable): slang expression for grass, which is a slang expression for weed, which is a slang expression for boo, which is a slang expression for--ah, hell, you know!


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Subject: RE: BS: Chocolate...
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 06:10 PM

typist


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Subject: RE: BS: Chocolate...
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 05:30 PM

Haven't we had a million threads on this topic already?


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Subject: RE: BS: Chocolate...
From: harpmaker
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 05:27 PM

I used to love choc' as a kid, but i went off sweetstuffs alltogether when I was about 14.
Now Iam a little older(!) i eat it just about everyday.
Maybe its a hormone thing, -or its 'cos i cant spell.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chocolate...
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 04:46 PM

Are you a shitty speller or just a shitty typist, BB?


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Subject: RE: BS: Chocolate...
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 04:43 PM

I'm sorry, but I am a victim of the cultural conditioning by those who raised me, and the society as a whole. Don't blame me.


                                           8-{E












please note this is a sarcastic comnmment.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chocolate...
From: GUEST,disgruntled
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 04:40 PM

Men of course can't be comforting or nurturing, hence this conclusion. it started out a good thread, but this kind of silliness can send it downhill fast.


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Subject: RE: BS: Chocolate...
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 04:27 PM

"and all round good guy! "

I always considered chocolate more of female than male... comforting, nurturing,...


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Subject: RE: BS: Chocolate...
From: Emma B
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 04:23 PM

I just knew chocolate had to be good for you!
Had a bar of 70% chocolate solids flavoured with chilli peppers last weekend - perfect anti-depressant (apart from addictive qualities), stimulant, and all round good guy!


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Subject: RE: BS: Chocolate...
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 04:10 PM

recent studies show that cocoa has a great many cancer preventative compounds in it.


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Subject: BS: Chocolate...
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 04:09 PM

From a mailing...
By Ed Edelson
HealthDay Reporter
From HealthDayNews

June 1 — For those who think the world is a bitter place, medical science offers this sweet health tidbit: Chocolate might be good for you.



Not just any chocolate, and always in moderation, said Mary Engler, a professor of physiological nursing at the University of California, San Francisco, School of Nursing. But her new study does find that biting into the right stuff can make arteries expand, increasing blood flow and thus reducing cardiovascular risk.

Milk chocolate won't do, Engler sressed, because it's, well, too milky. Look for darker chocolates, because darkness is an indicator of high levels of flavonoids, the chemicals that loosen up the arteries.

And this is one instance where good taste and good health go hand in hand, Engler said.

You can tell that a chocolate has a high flavonoid content because "the flavor is so intense and rich," she said.

It's All in the Flavonoids


The study that Engler and her colleagues are reporting in the Journal of the American College of Nutrition had 11 willing participants eat 1.6 ounces of flavonoid-rich chocolate every day for two weeks. Another 10 volunteers, sacrificing themselves for science, consumed an equal amount of low-flavonoid chocolate.

Ultrasound measurements showed that expansion of the arteries in response to greater blood flow increased by 10 percent in the flavonoid consumers, while there was a slight decrease in those who got the flavonoid-poor chocolate. Blood levels of a powerful flavonoid, epicatechin, rose more than eightfold for the high-flavonoid group and remained unchanged for the others.

The study was done in collaboration with the Jean Mayer USDA Human Nutrition Research Center on Aging at Tufts University. Jeffrey Blumberg, chief of the center's Antioxidant Research Laboratory, said the work has expanded to look at other flavonoid-containing foods.

"Not only chocolate, but also tea, oat bran, almond skins and blueberries, all are good sources of flavonoids," Blumberg said. "We're trying to get a better understanding of vital chemicals, flavonoids being one of the larger groups."

Chocolate "happens to be a rich source of flavonoids," Blumberg said, but he added that "we are not trying to position chocolate as a health food."

In addition to flavonoids, chocolate also has a lot of calories and a lot of saturated fat, neither of which is good for the arteries, he said.

"But in the context of a reasonable diet, chocolate is not only a pleasurable food but might contain some health-promoting ingredients," Blumberg said.

Recommendations about chocolate can be compared with those about wine, Engler said. An occasional glass or two of wine has been shown to be associated with a reduced risk of cardiovascular disease, she said, "but people should not be overindulgent with wine. The same is true of dark chocolate in moderation as part of a well-balanced diet."


Now, I for one will have to consider asking my health plan to pay for chocolate, as well as the gym membership...


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