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Subject: BS: Home secretary and folk music From: greg stephens Date: 08 Jul 04 - 07:55 AM The new plan to make Britain a Very Nice Place is to pass a law to stop incitement of religious hatred. The Home Secretary pointed out that we have anti-racism laws, so we ought to have the same thing for religion. Leaving aside the rather obvious point that race is something you are born with, but political and religious opinions are things you choose for yourself, I'd like to propose broadening this a bit. The Radio Times contains a quote from someone who "loathes" folk music, and offensive twats on Mudcat are always making unpleasant remarks about banjo-players. What I want to know is, what is the Home Secretary going to do about these monstrous affronts to social cohesion?
-Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Home secretary and folk music From: Leadfingers Date: 08 Jul 04 - 07:59 AM Agreed Greg - A law against banjo bias would be a good start ! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Home secretary and folk music From: GUEST Date: 08 Jul 04 - 08:04 AM "offensive twats on Mudcat are always making unpleasant remarks about banjo-players" Banjo players is a lost cause, their is no known medication |
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Subject: RE: BS: Home secretary and folk music From: A Wandering Minstrel Date: 08 Jul 04 - 08:06 AM We could pass a law making it illegal for Home Secretaries to incite intolerance by passing draconian laws? The lady in Radio Times was merely displaying her ignorance, lack of judgement and poor taste. Some of my best friends are banjo players! (Of course they have to suffer the credibility problems associated with knowing someone who plays the bodhran) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Home secretary and folk music From: GUEST,MC Fat Date: 08 Jul 04 - 09:03 AM The current Home Secretary Mr Blunkett visits the South Yorkshire Carols at least once a year. I believe he goes to Outibridge so one presumes he must like at least some folk music |
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Subject: RE: BS: Home secretary and folk music From: greg stephens Date: 08 Jul 04 - 03:01 PM What sort of penalties might be imposed against people guilty of hate crimes against folk music? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Home secretary and folk music From: Wilfried Schaum Date: 09 Jul 04 - 03:02 AM Greg - Performances on three Eurogatherings in a row. That should cure them. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Home secretary and folk music From: Dave Masterson Date: 09 Jul 04 - 03:41 AM It's disgraceful that banjo players are discriminated against - why, some of them are almost human! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Home secretary and folk music From: John MacKenzie Date: 09 Jul 04 - 04:02 AM If the Home Secretary visited other folk events farther away from his Sheffield constituency, it might lend weight to his folkie credentials. Anyway folkies are predominently left wing in their political leanings, and Mr Blunkett is far to the right of Maggie Thatcher, and she was famously described as being to the right of Ghengis Khan. Giok |
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Subject: RE: BS: Home secretary and folk music From: el ted Date: 09 Jul 04 - 06:07 AM Is there anything more heavenly than a banjo/bodhran orchestra playing Bach's Brandenberg concertos? I think not! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Home secretary and folk music From: mooman Date: 09 Jul 04 - 06:32 AM El Ted...in truth I cannot answer that question not having attended such a performance but I think, that with the Mudcat's resources, we could arrange the staging of such a concerto in a mutually agreeable location. I would be willing to make myself available for either the banjo or bodhran section, or indeed as conductor as I am familar with that piece. We could invite Mr Blunkett as a special guest together with Mrs Thatcher and ask them for their reactions. moo |
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Subject: RE: BS: Home secretary and folk music From: GUEST Date: 09 Jul 04 - 06:35 AM "What sort of penalties might be imposed against people guilty of hate crimes against folk music?" They must be made to wear arran sweaters, sandles with socks, grow a beard (including the women), learn to play the banjo and accordion, wear a pewter tankard on their belts, and listen to the Spinners for sixteen hours a day. Kill or cure. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Home secretary and folk music From: el ted Date: 09 Jul 04 - 06:36 AM The only problem is, we would need thirty banjo players who can read standard notation. I don't think there are that many in the world! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Home secretary and folk music From: mooman Date: 09 Jul 04 - 06:44 AM ...and (sadly) probably even less bodhran players... (:>( moo |
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Subject: RE: BS: Home secretary and folk music From: Dave Bryant Date: 09 Jul 04 - 07:02 AM we could arrange the staging of such a concerto in a mutually agreeable location Preferably off-planet - I think we'd need help from NASA on that one ! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Home secretary and folk music From: Grab Date: 09 Jul 04 - 07:25 AM Greg, the difference between race/religion and music is that no-one was ever shot, hanged or burned at the stake for playing a banjo badly. Unfortunately. Graham. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Home secretary and folk music From: John MacKenzie Date: 09 Jul 04 - 08:49 AM You've obviously never heard of Troise, and his Banjoliers, a banjo based band, that used to play for the radio programme Music while you Work, but then that was back in the darkages. Giok |
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Subject: RE: BS: Home secretary and folk music From: mooman Date: 09 Jul 04 - 09:09 AM I remember the programme well Giok. Why...was Troise hanged by his Banjoliers...? moo |
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Subject: RE: BS: Home secretary and folk music From: A Wandering Minstrel Date: 09 Jul 04 - 09:25 AM Guest, I was going to make a cutting response over your concepts of punishment. However as I was reaching for the keyboard I overturned my pewter tankard and while attempting to avoid soaking my socks in ale I somehow got my beard entangled in my sweater. I'd be delighted to beat along with the Brandenburg. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Home secretary and folk music From: Michael Date: 09 Jul 04 - 09:36 AM When I was a kid we had had a record (78rpm) of Troise and his Mandoliers, so did he have both? Mike |
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Subject: RE: BS: Home secretary and folk music From: mooman Date: 09 Jul 04 - 09:39 AM ....even worse if he was hanged by his Mandoliers... moo |
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Subject: RE: BS: Home secretary and folk music From: GUEST Date: 09 Jul 04 - 10:14 AM "Guest, I was going to make a cutting response over your concepts of punishment. However as I was reaching for the keyboard I overturned my pewter tankard and while attempting to avoid soaking my socks in ale I somehow got my beard entangled in my sweater." But were you listening to the Spinners, and was the sweater of the arran variety? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Home secretary and folk music From: GUEST,Art Thieme Date: 09 Jul 04 - 10:24 AM A plague on all your shells. You are no better than Golapagos Tortoises which, like the terrorists that you all are, tosses heinous bombs and swiftly climbs into the anonymous safety of a protective shell. Alas, banjos are and always have been the absolute best ever since their inception when they were first invented as an I.U.D. for Catherine The Great. The one who pulled them out (so to speak) of their closet (no comment) and found out that they made such heavenly music ought to have statues erected (no pun in-ten-did) all over the world in their honor, and these ought to be made un-pull-down-able unlike all the monuments to those actual twats like Generalisimo Franco, Mussolini, Martin Gibson, Hitler, Saddam, and various other shrubs--(and you know who you are). As I said, banjos are the best and they are in need of a few good men (and I guess women too) to rise, as if my Viagra's magic, to their defense. I have started a new thread to accomplish this good thing that is, to my way of thinking, devoutly to be wished!!!!!!! Love, Art Thieme |
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Subject: RE: BS: Home secretary and folk music From: GUEST,Art Thieme Date: 09 Jul 04 - 10:29 AM That ought to read "as if BY Viagra's magic"----not "MY Viagra's magic". Art |
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Subject: RE: BS: Home secretary and folk music From: GUEST,Art Thieme Date: 09 Jul 04 - 11:15 AM It was just a freudian undergarment. Art again |
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Subject: RE: BS: Home secretary and folk music From: Dave Bryant Date: 09 Jul 04 - 11:18 AM Getting back to the original subject - why can't folkies and other musicians have equality with people who watch televised sport in pubs - ie the right to do it without a license ! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Home secretary and folk music From: John MacKenzie Date: 09 Jul 04 - 11:51 AM Yes I'm afraid that Troise and his Mandoliers also existed in another lifetime. Giok |
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Subject: RE: BS: Home secretary and folk music From: GUEST,Van Date: 10 Jul 04 - 03:28 AM How about the right to throw a banjo through the broadscreen showing sport in a pub. No licence required - just good taste (and decent beer). |
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Subject: RE: BS: Home secretary and folk music From: Dave Hanson Date: 10 Jul 04 - 04:21 AM I play banjo but I also know that it can be used as an offensive weapon. There should be NO mention of bodhran players here, the are NOT musical. eric |
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Subject: RE: BS: Home secretary and folk music From: The Borchester Echo Date: 10 Jul 04 - 01:26 PM Oh, I don't know. It must take some sort of musical skill to be able to bash so consistently just ahead or behind the beat. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Home secretary and folk music From: Dave Hanson Date: 11 Jul 04 - 01:41 AM education, education, education. eric |
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Subject: RE: BS: Home secretary and folk music From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 11 Jul 04 - 02:40 AM "Oh, I don't know. It must take some sort of musical skill to be able to bash so consistently just ahead or behind the beat." Syncopation mate! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Home secretary and folk music From: Dave Hanson Date: 11 Jul 04 - 04:50 AM Could be worse, could be a piano accordion. eric |
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Subject: RE: BS: Home secretary and folk music From: Folkiedave Date: 11 Jul 04 - 09:14 AM David Blunkett does indeed normally attend the carols. I do believe it is more likely to be at the Bl*ck B*ll which lies within his constituency. Another venue would be R*d L*on in the village where he used to live. I have used asterixes because a terrorist could easily read this and find out where he might be. And in these two pubs no-one would notice them a couple of terrorists. Dave www.collectorsfolk.co.uk |
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Subject: RE: BS: Home secretary and folk music From: A Wandering Minstrel Date: 12 Jul 04 - 08:13 AM Guest, The sweater is of course, of the arran variety with a rather pleasing (if unseasonal) pattern of reindeer and snowflakes. The tune on the gramophone at the time of my original message was little micks spirited rendering of Twelve Days of Christmas with tutu obbligato Stereotype, who are you calling a stereotype. put my bodhran down! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Home secretary and folk music From: Wyrd Sister Date: 12 Jul 04 - 05:34 PM I would like to point out Oughtibridge IS a long way from Blunkett's constituency. We're talking England's biggest village here! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Home secretary and folk music From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 13 Jul 04 - 05:18 AM home secratery is rubbish, and i bet he's not really blind, he's just after a free dog. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Home secretary and folk music From: GUEST Date: 13 Jul 04 - 07:59 AM and a frewe telly licence and bus fares |
