BS: What Do Women Want???...

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 05:33 AM

It's not so much about what we want...





...as what we get.







And that's the same for men, isn't it?




..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 05:45 AM

I'm sorry, I can't take advice from a bloke who kissed green women and shagged everything that ever said, in a seductive voice 'tell me about this thing you Hu-mans call luuuuuuuuuuuurvvvve'

LTS

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From: Pied Piper
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 06:29 AM

Hmmm "What do wwomen wan't?"

Their cake and eat it.

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From: el ted
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 06:38 AM

A good seeing to on a regular basis.

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: kendall
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 08:27 AM

To be heard and validated. Simple, eh?

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: SINSULL
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 09:11 AM

This has been going thru my mind for two weeks now. From "I, Claudius":
"I want to be a goddess, Claudius."

That's about right.

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: SINSULL
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 09:16 AM

To be heard and validated????? This from the man who says that "Women who are against abortion are usually too old or too ugly to get pregnant"!

SINS, hiding in the hedges.

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 09:19 AM

Did he really, Sinsull?

Kendall!!!!!

As for wanting to be a "goddess", I'd settle to being elevated to "man's best friend"


Dream on, Ellen


..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: Amos
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 10:05 AM

ELlenpoly:

Raise your sights, darlin' -- that role's been taken by a quadruped!

A

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: Kim C
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 10:24 AM

Some women, myself included, have cultivated the skill of asking for what they want or need. Sometimes this is hard to do, because assertive women are often still seen as being bitchy; and who wants to be thought of as a bitch or a nag?

For myself personally, I still want bras that actually fit and pantyhose that stay up. Jeans that fit would be nice too.

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: SINSULL
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 11:02 AM

Success Kim. A bra company is finally coming out with half cup sizes. A decent fit will soon be a reality. Mine are a feat of engineering but they finally come in colors.

And "Yes, Ellen". Not only did he say it but he did so on the Mudcat! On his behalf I have to add that he did apologize...sort of.

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: kendall
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 11:08 AM

I just got sick and tired of that same old bullshit and decided to stir the pot a little. Most people got the black humor. Now, let it lay.

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: Nerd
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 01:26 PM

Damn funny, too, Kendall...not that I (or you) really believe it.

(Sorry I couldn't let lay those who couldn't get laid.)

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: Kim C
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 01:43 PM

I think everyone wants to be heard and validated, not just women.

I'm keeping an eye out for those half-size bras! Why do you reckon it took some Jenius SO long to think of that? I know Playtex had the Thank Goodness it Fits line, and I tried a couple of those... they were all right, but not fantastic. The fit was mediocre and the styles were dull.

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: GUEST,weerover
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 02:03 PM

Further to Freightdawg's linguistic point, and speaking as one who replied to "Could you take me to the supermarket?" with "Yes, I could" and no indication of moving...well, let's just say it only happened once.

wr.

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: Peace
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 02:06 PM

They want the same things men want: respect, consideration, thoughtfulness from other people, a fair hearing, like that. I don't think there's a magic formula or a secret about it.

Some want material things, just like men. Some want love, just like men. Some are greedy, just like men. IMO, women and men want what people want. No rocket science there.

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: Kim C
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 03:05 PM

Brucie's right - I think the sticking point is that men and women simply process information a little differently, which sometimes leads to misunderstandings.

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: MAG
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 03:07 PM

From me that would have gotten one;s beer snatched and poured on your head, wr.

and I wonder why I'm single ...

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: GUEST,weerover
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 03:34 PM

Brucie,

I can't agree that men and women generally want the same things in all respects: yeah, friends, money, job satisfaction, respect, all that, but a significant enough number want different things from relationships and situations (and interpret situations differently) to say the sexes are different in what they are looking for.

"No, actually I don't particularly like the colour of that new outfit" does not mean the same thing as "You are a bad person and I hate you": why should (many) women want it to be so?

"Tell me what's wrong" does not mean "I know what's wrong but I'm going to pretend that I don't so as not to admit that it's my fault".
Any other guys out there been in this sort of situation?

Sitting back and waiting to be lambasted...

wr.

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 03:42 PM

They want a pecker bigger than Martin Gibson's or at least that is what his wife told me after I porked her in the arse.

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: Peace
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 04:04 PM

weerover: KimC said: "I think the sticking point is that men and women simply process information a little differently, which sometimes leads to misunderstandings." Truer words were never spoke.

GUEST: I don't think you should worry so much about Marty's masculinity. You seem to have issues here, but no doubt that's what you're doing on this thread. Keep reading. Eventually you'll find out.

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 04:18 PM

Women know what women want...Men know what women want..but somehow the twain do not meet too well...as the divorce rate testifies.
Best wishes.

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: Nerd
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 04:20 PM

As they say in my neighborhood, GUEST, Daaaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: InOBU
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 04:27 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: Peace
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 04:29 PM

The thinking thing is different, and there is no doubt about that in my experience. However, I think we have to bear in mind that some stuff we attribute to people as being fundamental to the way they are because of their sex (gender) may just be the people. My ex would host a party and prepare, say, sandwiches. They would be cut into those little triangles and the crusts lopped off and each slice of bread would be buttered and carefully arranged with assorted stuff. I would host a part and put a few loaves of bread on the table with stuff and tell people to make their own. My ex would ask if anyone wanted more wine or beer. I would tell folks it was in the fridge (which was in the kitchen). My ex didn't read road maps worth a damn. She never could. I am a guy. I didn't read them at all. Each of us got us lots many times. How much of this is gender related and how much is people I don't know.

I see nothing wrong with putting clothes in a washer. My ex wanted the stuff separated first. (Whites, mixed, etc.) I just put it all in. How the hell was I supposed to know that her new $325 fancy wool sweater from her mother would shrink in a hot water wash? I ask you. And who knows that bleach does that to new shirts? Like, if people find this stuff out, they should let other people know, right? I'm a friggin' teacher/fire fighter, not a chemist.

Folding laundry. I did it in basic because my sergeant said I had to. I ain't in basic anymore. Who the hell folds underwear? My ass will make the wrinkles disappear for gawd sake. The wrinkles in my ass concern me more. And what is this fetish people have with ironing? Guys and gals. If the shirt is comfortable, WEAR IT! The wrinkles will get taken out when you was the thing.

Vacuuming. If vacuum cleaners are worth what ya paid for 'em, then once over a spot should do it. If the speck of whatever doesn't want to get sucked up, then you need a new vacuum cleaner. This 'go over the same spot a few times' routine really gets me ticked.

Dishes: I agree that they should be washed. No question. But some of us--male and female--don't feel that a soak time of a few days is unreasonable.

I am really rambling here. Let me close with this: It's all about expectations.

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: Peace
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 04:33 PM

Sorry abuot the tpyos.

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: GUEST,shy guy
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 04:37 PM

It's simple.

Women have a nearly inexhaustable supply of what men crave. Yet, while they apparently crave it as well, they are the ones how control it. It's surprising to me that date rape isn't even more common than it is.

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: Peace
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 04:43 PM

That's the philosophy that got the US into Iraq. "You got it; I want it; therefore, it's my right to take it." That blames the victim. Rape in any form is about power and the abuse of power.

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: mg
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 04:48 PM

Brucie, I am your sort of housekeeper. mg

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: GUEST,shy guy
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 04:52 PM

this coming from a guy who fucks goats

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From: Georgiansilver
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 05:06 PM

Martin Gibson is alive and well I reckon!

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: GUEST,TTCM
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 05:16 PM

Shy Guy knows this because he was the goat.

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: Peace
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 05:27 PM

It was a girl goat. I know the difference, ya jackoff. You have some serious sexual identity issues, and maybe sometime soon you should get you ashes hauled by a competent workin' gal or guy. It's likely my goat would walk away from you. But then, I doubt you've had anyone in you life but your hand. Try the other had, and you'll think it's someone else you racist piece of shit.

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: Peace
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 05:37 PM

The above post was directed to GUEST who mentioned dear, dear Esmerelda.

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: MAG
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 05:57 PM

I see nothing wrong with putting clothes in a washer. My ex wanted the stuff separated first. (Whites, mixed, etc.) I just put it all in. How the hell was I supposed to know that her new $325 fancy wool sweater from her mother would shrink in a hot water wash? I ask you. And who knows that bleach does that to new shirts

My most recent ex did this crap, even when I asked him, nicely, to please leave my clothes alone. He ruined my crepe dress slacks and I nicely asked him to not try to "help" me anymore with laundry.

He showed up every night for a week wanting to take me out for a little bit, when I nicely explained I had a program to prepare for, and threw a hissy fit when I finally said no (nicely).

He refused to leave when I nicely told him I needed privacy for a call to my shrink, and got mad when I nicely asked him why he needed to eavesdrop on my need to discuss feeling smothered. Then he got mad, and I said I didn't give a flying fuck.

Can't live with 'em, ... can't live with 'em.

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: Peace
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 06:04 PM

That's the beauty of his/her piles.

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: Peace
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 06:08 PM

So, MAG, you want to be listened to. We are making progress here.

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From: MAG
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 06:13 PM

Brucie, I think what I need is to be a better judge of people.

This same guy promised to learn how to dance for me, and it was a lie. He gave new meaning to the term passive-aggressive.

Now I can't dance anymore but wouldn't mind the occasional good neck and shoulder rub, with reciprocity, of course.

I'm with Liz; winning the lotto so I wouldn't be stressed about the mortgage all the time wouldn't be bad. Not having to work so I could read and practice and garden. (11 years, and counting ...)

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: Peace
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 06:20 PM

I hear you, MAG. Thanks for sharing.

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: kendall
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 07:19 PM

The thing to do is not blame inappropriate people, but to get in touch with why we are attracted to the wrong partners. Sorry to have to say it, but it is not ALL their fault. Sometimes our energies are just not compatible. It's too bad that we all live in a society where someone has to be to blame, and it's always the "Other" person. Makes it easier to avoid examining our own "shit". The problem with that is, we never get beyong that stuck place and we keep making the same stupid mistakes over and over. The definition of insanity is "Performing the same task over and over the same way, hoping for a different outcome." I'm sure as hell guilty, anyone else care to admit it?

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: Peace
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 07:25 PM

Story of my life, Kendall.

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: Pogo
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 07:35 PM

what do women want???

*cough* just taking a guess here...but top of the list would probably be " for men to stop asking silly questions like 'What do women want?' "

...and of course put the toliet seat down

;OD {O)

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 07:40 PM

Toilet seats are supposed to be up. Else why would there be a hinge?

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 07:41 PM

My ex wanted the stuff separated first. (Whites, mixed, etc.) I just put it all in. How the hell was I supposed to know that her new $325 fancy wool sweater from her mother would shrink in a hot water wash?

Another wimp who left his mother to find a substitute.

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: Peace
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 07:43 PM

GUEST: You likely are still with your mother. Tell your dad to use condoms; we don't want too many more of you around.

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: Amos
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 07:57 PM

I would suggest if you don't know how to operate a washing machine safely, just as eith an automobile, you leave it the hell alone. Justifying your stupidity by being arrogant about it is just making you look dumber.

A

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: Peace
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 08:51 PM

And that ius in reference to what, Amos?

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From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 09:15 PM

"Toilet seats are supposed to be up. Else why would there be a hinge?"

Flushing the toilet with the seat up creates an aerosol, which contains whatever was in the water. You really want that shit sprayed around for you to breathe?

Put the bloody lid down when you flush!

Robin
O->

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: Amos
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 09:16 PM

Brucie:

It was in reference to the post by someone who couldn't be bothered to learn what hot water does to cardigans...sorry pal, but I assume you had your tongue in your cheek. If not... see my last post. 'Course, it is also true that someone could have bothered to teach you....

A

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: Peace
Date: 02 Aug 04 - 09:25 PM

Gotcha. I was foolin' around. I did once put bleach in with a new bright-red T-shirt. Wore pink underwear for a while. However, the rest of that is bologna. Received a PM from one gal who liked it. Made my day for me.

Later,

Bruce