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BS: Grated Cheese

Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 05 Aug 04 - 08:05 PM
khandu 05 Aug 04 - 08:11 PM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 05 Aug 04 - 08:13 PM
khandu 05 Aug 04 - 08:15 PM
The Fooles Troupe 05 Aug 04 - 08:26 PM
TheBigPinkLad 05 Aug 04 - 08:31 PM
MMario 05 Aug 04 - 08:56 PM
khandu 05 Aug 04 - 09:00 PM
jimmyt 05 Aug 04 - 09:10 PM
SINSULL 05 Aug 04 - 09:15 PM
khandu 05 Aug 04 - 09:36 PM
jimmyt 05 Aug 04 - 09:54 PM
jimmyt 05 Aug 04 - 09:57 PM
jimmyt 05 Aug 04 - 10:04 PM
SINSULL 05 Aug 04 - 10:15 PM
SINSULL 05 Aug 04 - 10:20 PM
The Fooles Troupe 05 Aug 04 - 10:25 PM
Scoville 05 Aug 04 - 10:39 PM
jimmyt 05 Aug 04 - 10:41 PM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 05 Aug 04 - 10:42 PM
jimmyt 05 Aug 04 - 10:46 PM
The Fooles Troupe 06 Aug 04 - 12:17 AM
CarolC 06 Aug 04 - 01:01 AM
The Fooles Troupe 06 Aug 04 - 01:06 AM
CarolC 06 Aug 04 - 01:11 AM
JennyO 06 Aug 04 - 01:18 AM
GUEST,Jon 06 Aug 04 - 03:51 AM
The Fooles Troupe 06 Aug 04 - 03:59 AM
Georgiansilver 06 Aug 04 - 04:02 AM
Ellenpoly 06 Aug 04 - 05:36 AM
Dave Hanson 06 Aug 04 - 10:05 AM
GUEST,MMario 06 Aug 04 - 10:25 AM
CarolC 06 Aug 04 - 01:45 PM
TheBigPinkLad 06 Aug 04 - 06:13 PM
The Fooles Troupe 06 Aug 04 - 08:51 PM
The Fooles Troupe 06 Aug 04 - 09:54 PM
Blowzabella 07 Aug 04 - 05:01 AM
GUEST,McGrath of Altcar 07 Aug 04 - 05:08 AM
Mr Red 07 Aug 04 - 05:22 AM
gnomad 07 Aug 04 - 06:17 AM
Wyrd Sister 07 Aug 04 - 06:27 AM
jimmyt 07 Aug 04 - 09:35 AM
Sooz 07 Aug 04 - 10:23 AM
GUEST,Jon 07 Aug 04 - 10:34 AM
Stilly River Sage 07 Aug 04 - 12:36 PM
Big Al Whittle 07 Aug 04 - 03:54 PM
rick-APX4a 07 Aug 04 - 07:01 PM
magician 07 Aug 04 - 08:33 PM
open mike 08 Aug 04 - 12:16 AM
Strollin' Johnny 08 Aug 04 - 03:37 AM
The Fooles Troupe 08 Aug 04 - 05:20 AM
GUEST,GS 08 Aug 04 - 05:24 AM
Sooz 08 Aug 04 - 05:34 AM
The Fooles Troupe 08 Aug 04 - 07:40 AM
Scoville 08 Aug 04 - 02:59 PM
GUEST,Jon 09 Aug 04 - 07:00 AM
GUEST,MMario 09 Aug 04 - 04:05 PM
GUEST,Jon 09 Aug 04 - 04:30 PM
Blowzabella 09 Aug 04 - 08:46 PM
GUEST,MMario 10 Aug 04 - 03:21 PM
Wyrd Sister 10 Aug 04 - 04:17 PM
GUEST,MMario 10 Aug 04 - 04:20 PM
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Subject: BS: Grated Cheese
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 08:05 PM

Hello, this week, i have been mostly eating grated cheezse,
i eated it on, toste, in soup, [mushroom soup], in bacon sandwiges and loads of things like that , unfortunateley the soup and grated chese did not go tooo well, as it went a bit all stuck together.


[there is a special offer on grated cheese in ,my local supermarket, by one get one free, [i got 4]


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: khandu
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 08:11 PM

Potted meat is goot with grated cheese!


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 08:13 PM

that was 4 all together [not 4 and got 4 free].


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: khandu
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 08:15 PM

Too much grated cheese is a good thing!


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 08:26 PM

Certain types of cheese do go well in soup, but the problem is that you must heat it very gently. If you heat it too strongly, you get the effect you noted John. Other types of cheese don't take well to heating at all, especially Low Fat and other 'unnatural forms' of cheese.

It's like cooking with eggs - scrambled eggs should not be cooked too fast or too long, or they go tough.

Robin


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 08:31 PM

Ccareful with the quantities, jOhn. It's not nicknamed 'bung' for nowt ...


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: MMario
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 08:56 PM

cheese in soup is a good thing - cheese in stew is a good thing - cheese on baked beans is a good thing. cheese is a good thing. cheesy scrambled eggs are a VERY good thing.


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: khandu
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 09:00 PM

Dr MMario Sueuss has spoken!!:-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: jimmyt
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 09:10 PM

Have some Cheese, Sir if you please sir, I will cough and wheeze and sneeze sir


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: SINSULL
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 09:15 PM

Grated cheese on steamed broccoli - YUMMMM!

Don't wipe it on your sleeves, sir
Or throw it at Condoleeza


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: khandu
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 09:36 PM

I'd eat cheese with Sir John from Hull
I'd eat cheese with Jethro Tull
I'd eat cheese with Sinsull, too
With jimmyt & MMarioo
On my hands & on my knees
I'd just love to eat some cheese!


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: jimmyt
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 09:54 PM

Cheese and bread and rice and bone
eat some cheese and play trombone
rats love cheese and mice do too
eat some cheese and play kazoo


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: jimmyt
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 09:57 PM

play a banjo with your cheese
swat the flies and smack the bees
fiddle and bow and tambourine
eat the cheese before it's green


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: jimmyt
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 10:04 PM

Cheese on your kitten out on the lawn?
pop in in the oven it's au gratin


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: SINSULL
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 10:15 PM

Squeeze your cheese through a cheesecloth clean
Crank it through a grinding machine.
Cut it! Crumble it! Melt it through!
Cheese is good for me and you.

I'll go to bed now - goodnight jOhn.


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: SINSULL
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 10:20 PM

cheese balls, cheese curds. cheesecake, cheese cubes, cheese pie, cheese pizza. cheese calzone, cheese ravioli, grilled cheese, grated cheese, cheesehead, headcheese, creamed cheese,


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 10:25 PM

One good use for those 'cheese slices' that are not real slices of real cheese, but a sort of cream cheese paste, is to put them in soups/stews. If done carefully, they will emulsify and form a nice cheesy white sauce.

Robin


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: Scoville
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 10:39 PM

My best friend's mother taught us to eat cheese and sugar toasted on a tortilla, as a dessert. I thought it sounded like a horrible idea at first but it's really not bad. Kind of a Tex-Mex cheese danish.

Mostly, though, it's hard to go wrong with cheese. It's got to be real cheese, though, not that Velveeta crap.


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: jimmyt
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 10:41 PM

I like fried goat cheese!


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 10:42 PM

i never heard of fried goats.


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: jimmyt
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 10:46 PM

Grated cheese on crated geese Fried goat CHEESE, jo9hn


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 06 Aug 04 - 12:17 AM

I like cooked haloumi - greek cheese - fried in a pan.


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: CarolC
Date: 06 Aug 04 - 01:01 AM

I miss cheese. But, although I can no longer enjoy cheese myself (sigh), I can still savor the memories of this fine aged cheese.


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 06 Aug 04 - 01:06 AM

You wouldn't be an old cheese yourself then CarolC?


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: CarolC
Date: 06 Aug 04 - 01:11 AM

I wish I could find a way to pretend that I understand what you just said, Foolestroup, but I can't. Can you help me out a bit? Is "old cheese" a euphemism for something where you live?


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: JennyO
Date: 06 Aug 04 - 01:18 AM

Grated cheese in mashed potatoes - YUM!


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 06 Aug 04 - 03:51 AM

I don't think I've ever bought grated cheese but I do find it useful. Sometimes one of our local supermarkets will for example have good blocks of a nice strong cheddar on special offer. Our food mixer/blender has a grating blade so once in a while I do make a bag or two up to keep in the fridge.


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 06 Aug 04 - 03:59 AM

I am probably one myself CarolC.... :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 06 Aug 04 - 04:02 AM

I love to eat cheese 'cause it's so versatile,
I'll be having a slice on my toast in a while.
Putting it in your soup is a wheeze,
But if it goes sticky, well it's just "hard cheese".

Sir John....I love to eat slices of cheese with apple. Cheese and jam toasties are great but let them cool a bit before eating as the jam can burn. Cheese and Branston sandwiches are good too.
Best wishes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 06 Aug 04 - 05:36 AM

I LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE CHEESE!

Unfortunately, it is unrequited.


..xx..e


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 06 Aug 04 - 10:05 AM

Siberian beever cheese? Wensleydale.

eric


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 06 Aug 04 - 10:25 AM

One cheese two cheese
Cream cheese, blue cheese
This cheese has a little rind
This cheese causes one to "bind"
My goodness - look at all the cheese we find!




Seriously - cheese is so versatile - so yummy - and there is such a variety of it! One of the groceries was having a "blue cheese" special last week - they had to have had close to twenty different varieties - and they ranged from a soft (ripened) cheese to a very hard grating cheese - the "blue" veins actually ranged from white, to green, to light blue, to a very dark blue; while the bodies of the cheese also ranged through white to dark orange. I wish I'd had more money - I would have gone on a cheese tasting orgy!

Lately I've tended to take cheese trays to parties or other gatherings that are "pot lucks" - usually because of convenience - I don't have to keep something refrigerated and or hot - and I usually am heading to the function from work - which makes it even more difficult. and now you can get a good variety - unlike when I was a kid and all you could find was cheddar; "american"(= fake) and if you were LUCKY - mozzerella - maybe some cans of the dried up grated parmesan.


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: CarolC
Date: 06 Aug 04 - 01:45 PM

Maybe what those of you in Australia call an "old cheese", we in the US call an "old fart". Yeah... I guess I'm officially one of those, or will be in a couple of years. What's the official age of onset of "old cheese/old fart"ism? (I'm not quite fifty yet, but almost.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 06 Aug 04 - 06:13 PM

It can't possibly be 50 ... ;o)


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 06 Aug 04 - 08:51 PM

Well, 'old cheese' is 'mature'..... ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 06 Aug 04 - 09:54 PM

What? The Norwegian Blue Sir? Beautiful plumage.


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: Blowzabella
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 05:01 AM

In the north east - and Yorkshire, I understand, it's the custom at Christmas to serve a slice of Wensleydale cheese with Christmas cake (rich dark fruit cake). Sounds a bit odd but it is yummy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: GUEST,McGrath of Altcar
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 05:08 AM

Cheese and fruit cake is so good it should be illegal.

A Scaffolder's breakfast is a good use for cheese.

it consists of

cheese on
fried eggs on
beans on
toast.

Put it under the grill to melt the cheese into the eggs.


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: Mr Red
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 05:22 AM

Now isn't that a coincidence. I put grated cheese into soup towards the end of the warm-up lap. And then drop a few more bits when it is in the bowl. It will not be surprising that I prefer tomato.

I haven't tried this in Mushroom because the bowl is usually full (not mush room!) . I'll get my coat..........


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: gnomad
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 06:17 AM

Another good thing with cheese is apple pie.

My Dad used to say "an apple pie with no cheese is like a kiss with no squeeze"


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: Wyrd Sister
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 06:27 AM

"It's not bad in salads: this ballad's not sad. Sing O! the hard cheese of Old England..."
Is this a music thread now?
(Martin Carthy singing Les Barker for those less fortunate to recognise)


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: jimmyt
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 09:35 AM

Cheese he cut in blocke
cheese he cut in wedges
cheese he cut in slices
chese that he grates
cheese that he shaves... oh yes,

I prefer Cheeses Shaves as a catchy phrase


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: Sooz
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 10:23 AM

Gnomad - that's like an old Lincolnshire saying -
"Apple pie without some cheese is like a kiss without a squeeze".

I rarely buy cheese ready grated, but cannot resist a bargain when it's on "Two for one". Well done jOhn, you are a canny shopper. Buy more and freeze it while the offer is still on!


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 10:34 AM

I'd said above that I did't think I'd bought grated cheese but now I remember a time when we did. I don't know if they still do it and there is not one near me but at one time Asda used to do a sort of mixture of what I guess were the left over bits from maybe cutting to get pre-packed stuff - there was more than one cheese in it and it was nice and quite cheap.


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 12:36 PM

My kids love macaroni and cheese, and I'm able to use some good soy cheeses to make it. When I stopped eating diary my regular (it seemed) sinus headaches went almost entirely away. I miss cheese and yogurt, but I don't miss the headaches. On those occasions when I do eat it, I take a sudafed chaser. :)

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 03:54 PM

with four packets to hand, you won't need to grate very much cheese.....the grate escape!


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: rick-APX4a
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 07:01 PM

This week, I are mostly tried grated cheese wi' bacon. Trouble is, pig wouldn't sit still. Suggestions please?!


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: magician
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 08:33 PM

Cheeses at Watering Hole on a Sunday lunchtime!!! :-)

Nus, Ritz Biccy's, peanuts, pies (pork)----- Crisps (or for our colonial bethren, potatoe chips!)-----Bombay mix --PICKLES--------Branston. Shall we go on?????

Wohhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Sunday lunch provided.

P.S. Welsh rarebit??


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: open mike
Date: 08 Aug 04 - 12:16 AM

burrito!


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 08 Aug 04 - 03:37 AM

I used to work in a cheese-dairy when I were a lad (yes Sooz, I can remember that far back!). I could tell you lots of stories about cheese and cheese-making but, for the sake of public decency, I'll restrain myself! :0)

Didn't put me off cheese though, still lurve it (Stilton kept in a barrel of port is better than sex - almost!)

SJ :0)


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 08 Aug 04 - 05:20 AM

But is Sex and a Barrel of Port as good as Blue Cheese?


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: GUEST,GS
Date: 08 Aug 04 - 05:24 AM

strollin' johnny......
cheese....sex? cheese....sex? cheese....sex..sex..sex...sex....sex
No contest.


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: Sooz
Date: 08 Aug 04 - 05:34 AM

I believe you SJ :-) BTW You can't grate stilton.


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 08 Aug 04 - 07:40 AM

I think Stilton is great: grated, or not!


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: Scoville
Date: 08 Aug 04 - 02:59 PM

I heard of the Yorkshire cheese-and-cake thing from reading (believe it or not) James Herriot. He didn't specify what kind of cake, though. Now that I know it's fruit cake I'll be sure to try it at Christmas. I'm not sure I can get Wenselydale here, though; is there a substitute that's more common in the U.S.?


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 09 Aug 04 - 07:00 AM

Scoville, I'd suggest Caerphilly, Cheshire, or Lancashire, as possible alternatives.


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 09 Aug 04 - 04:05 PM

hmmmm - I *think* I've seen both wenslydale and caerphilly. Never seen Cheshire or Lancashire for sale here in the states. *sigh*

we are living on the cheese deprived shore of the pond.


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 09 Aug 04 - 04:30 PM

I don't know MMario. I had heard there were good American cheeses.

Looking through the "Real Cheese Book" (ISBN 07112 04756), a book I have at the desk now, I see it has a few US entries under the same category (Semi-Hard Cheese) as it lists the ones I mentioned in:

Brick, Chantelle, Colby, Cornhusker, Gold'n'Rich, Montery Jack, and Sno-Belle. I have never come across any of these.

BTW, while looking through this book, I discovered that there is more than one Wenslydale. To me I put it in my own "white crumbly with a bit of a 'lactic taste' category" but there is also a blue which until 1930 was better known. Apparently neither of these were the original. The book says it started life as a ewes milk cheese not a cows milk one and indicates it and similar cheeses came to the Yorkshire Dales after the Norman Invasion in 1066 and this one was a recipe "owned" by Cistercian Monks.


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: Blowzabella
Date: 09 Aug 04 - 08:46 PM

If you can't get Wensleydale, Scoville, then look for something mild and, yes, crumbly. Lancashire cheeses are so widely differing in their tastes - some (Grandma Singleton's Lancashire Tasty, for instance) are incredibly strong (and get stronger by the day!). A white Cheshire might be ok. Not Red Leicester though.

We do seem to have a wonderful selection of cheeses nowadays in the UK - much much better than when I was growing up - and more supermarkets which stock local and regional specialities. Not just cheese, but breads, cakes, biscuits - yum!


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 10 Aug 04 - 03:21 PM

well - I've never seen Chantelle, Cornhusker, Gold'n'Rich, or sno-belle either...

Colby and monteray jack are available - NOW - 20 years ago you wouldn't have seen them outside of the cities...- your choice was cheddar - - if you were lucky a sharp as well as a mild - or "american" (ie: fake); pre-grated canned parmasan, and if you were really lucky - mozzerella -


I was in my 40's before I saw goat cheese for retail sale outside of a specialty gourmet shop - (with the exception of my great-aunt's farm) - for decades my only experience with Brie and Camenbert were the little foil wrapped wedges sold as snacks - which are no more Brie and Cammembert then "american" cheese is.

I remember being thrilled the first time I was ever able to get Edam cheese


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: Wyrd Sister
Date: 10 Aug 04 - 04:17 PM

You poor benighted soul! Have you ever considered emigrating?


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 10 Aug 04 - 04:20 PM

yes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: Cluin
Date: 11 Aug 04 - 01:01 AM

Grated cheese bears a distinct olfactory resemblance to dried smegma.


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 11 Aug 04 - 02:44 AM

Well, I have heard it referred to as 'cheese', but I never thought of grating it...


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: catspaw49
Date: 11 Aug 04 - 06:11 AM

ODE TO CHEESE

Cheese that is grated
And cheese that is not
Cheese served cold
And cheese served hot.
Cheese that is white
Cheese that is yellow
Cheese that is sharp
And cheese that is mellow.
Cheese that is sour
And cheese with full flavor
Cheese just to snack on
And cheese you just savor.
Eat cheese by candlelight
Relaxed in the tub
Eat cheese stacked high
On your favorite sub.
Cheese on a picnic
Reclined in the grass
Eat all that cheese
And it'll plug up your ass.


Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Grated Cheese
From: GUEST,Elfcall
Date: 11 Aug 04 - 08:51 AM

Just back from France and my fridge STINKS - Pont L'Eveque, Livarot, Roquefort, Chaumes and Camembert for baking whole !! MMMMMMMMMM worth the nasty niffs !!

Elfcall


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