Subject: RE: plains of waterloo From: skw@ Date: 19 Nov 98 - 03:56 AM Dan, The Corries do a song, Bloody Waterloo: A lassie she was walking all on the banks o' Clyde And the Black Family sing The Warlike Lads of Russia, about the retreat from Moscow, which portrays Napoleon as a great coward. Has your friend got those? - Susanne |
Subject: RE: plains of waterloo From: Wolfgang Date: 18 Nov 98 - 11:13 AM Andy, whenever in future you feel the urge to post a Les Barker parody, don't even try to resist it. I love them and smilingly remember at least Tamlyn and Everything glows (assuming that was you too). Wolfgang |
Subject: RE: plains of waterloo From: Art Thieme Date: 14 Nov 98 - 05:14 PM Peter Rowan does this beautifully as a bluegrass song. |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE TRAINS OF WATERLOO (Les Barker) From: AndyG Date: 12 Nov 98 - 07:27 AM I couldn't resist this:
THE TRAINS OF WATERLOO
Words:Les Barker
AndyG |
Subject: Lyr Add: PLAINS OF WATERLOO From: Liam's Brother Date: 11 Nov 98 - 09:22 AM Hi David! Here's some Mudcat instant gratification for you! I've been singing it this way for 25 years. Should be close to what you're looking for:
Oh, as I was out walking on a fine summer's morning
I stepped up to this fair maid and I said, "My fond creature,
"If Willie Smith's your true love's name, he was a hero of great fame
'Twas on the 18th day of June it ended the battle
Oh, when this fair maiden heard this sad acclimation I just had a look at "Traditional Singers and Songs of Ontario" again and this is pretty close to what Mr. Abbott sang. As I said earlier, 24% of the combatants lost their lives at Waterloo. Many people knew somebody who didn't return, therefore, songs about Waterloo were numerous and popular. Napoleon was seen both as a devil and a possible liberator by the downtrodden in Britain and Ireland. Additionally, that fellow who started out as a nobody and nearly took over all of Europe, did a lot for kindling the flame of ambition in many a mind. There were more songs about Napoleon than Nelson or Wellington. A friend of mine in California, Dick Holdstock, collects Napoleon songs. There are 7 in my book, "A Bonnie Bunch of Roses," including another "Plains of Waterloo" that I got from Fr. Charlie Coen.
All the best, |
Subject: RE: plains of waterloo From: David Polacheck Date: 11 Nov 98 - 01:10 AM Dear Jon Eastmont: I'd like to respond to your kind offer, but I don't know your email. You can reach me at kpolacheck@mail.utexas.edu. All I need are the last two verses. Help! |
Subject: RE: plains of waterloo From: bigJ Date: 09 Nov 98 - 06:07 PM Whoops! Having looked in my own database of recordings I see that the song also appeared on 'Far Canadian Fields' Leader (1975) (LEE 4057) which is effectively a sampler of Canadian songs collected by Edith Fowke. It also features the song 'The Loss of the Ellen Munn' mentioned in a thread elsewhere. |
Subject: RE: plains of waterloo From: bigJ Date: 09 Nov 98 - 05:52 PM You might also try Folkways FM 4051A - that's the LP of O.J. Abbott's that the song appears on. It might only be available on cassette now, of course but it should certainly have the lyrics with the sleeve notes. "Traditional Singers and Songs from Ontario" was published in 1965 by a short-lived but excellent publishing company called Folklore Associates, Inc. of Hatboro, Pennsylvania. It was under the general editorship of the late Kenneth Goldstein. |
Subject: RE: plains of waterloo From: Bruce O. Date: 06 Nov 98 - 06:21 PM Re: www.bookfinder.com. I forget when I ran across it, but have had great difficulty living within my income since I did. Some Edith Fowke works are listed there now, but not the Ontario songs one. |
Subject: RE: plains of waterloo From: Liam's Brother Date: 06 Nov 98 - 02:41 AM Bruce O. points us to a good source. If you are interested, you might want to check ... http://www.bookfinder.com/ This book and others sometimes appears there. I thank Sandy Paton for letting me know about this site. All the best, Dan |
Subject: RE: plains of waterloo From: Bruce O. Date: 05 Nov 98 - 07:20 PM Edith Fowke also published O. J. Abbott's version, with tune, in 'Traditional Singers and Songs from Ontario', #21, 1965. |
Subject: RE: plains of waterloo From: Liam's Brother Date: 05 Nov 98 - 10:12 AM Hi David! If you're interested in a little bit of background, this song comes almost definitely from a broadside. To the best of my knowledge, no actual printed broadside sheet has never been found however. Additionally, it has not been recorded from tradition in the UK or Ireland... only in Canada. I'm sure everyone who sings it got it ultimately from the late O.J. Abbott. (Yes, there was another O.J., thank God!) Mr. Abbott was recorded by Edith Fowke. He was born in Enfield, England and came to Canada when he was 12. He learned his songs early from the people he worked with on farms and in lumbercamps. They were all Irish. In the late '70s, practically every good ballad singer who was taken seriously sang "The Plains of Waterloo." ...Frank Harte, Royston Wood, etc. It is not sung so much anymore, however. Good luck with this one and treat it kindly. It's a really great song. All the best, Dan
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Subject: RE: plains of waterloo From: Jon Eastmond Date: 05 Nov 98 - 07:46 AM David, I've got the album you refer to. Tom learned," the Plains of waterloo" from Martin Carthy. It was collected in the Ottawa Valley by Edith Fowkes. Plains of Waterloo (1) in the index is the closest to the version of the song as sung by the Ranters. It shares the same outline and some of the same lines. I can't find a printed source for the lyrics. If you're really stuck, e-mail me and I'll transcribe them, but it might take a while! |
Subject: RE: plains of waterloo From: Susan of DT Date: 04 Nov 98 - 08:33 PM David - There are at least 5 different Laws numbered songs called either Waterloo or Plains of Waterloo. A search for just "Waterloo" gets 32 hits. Look thru them and see if any of them are what you are looking for. |
Subject: RE: plains of waterloo From: Davd Polacheck Date: 04 Nov 98 - 01:28 PM A appreciate the suggestion, Barbara, but it turns out that those particular texts are not the same as the version I seek. Anyone out there with a copy of the lp "High Level" who can help me? Dave |
Subject: RE: plains of waterloo From: Liam's Brother Date: 04 Nov 98 - 07:42 AM Hi David! You notice that there are quite a few songs about this tremendous battle. I read the other day that 24% of the men present were killed in action or died of wounds suffered. Those were some 3 days! All the best. |
Subject: RE: plains of waterloo From: Barbara Date: 04 Nov 98 - 04:04 AM David, it's in the database. put [plains of waterloo] in the grey search box in the upper right hand corner of the page (like that with the brackets) and it will pull up a couple versions of the song for you. Blessings, Barbara |
Subject: plains of waterloo From: David Polacheck Date: 04 Nov 98 - 12:48 AM I very much need the lyrics to the song "The Plains of Waterloo" as performed by the High Level Ranters on their out of print Leader album "High Level"; sung I think by Tom Gilfellon. Help! |
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