BS: Do human beings really exist?

Subject: RE: BS: Do human beings really exist?
From: GUEST,God
Date: 16 Sep 04 - 07:51 PM

Archie, you may well be right about that. Cockroaches are hardy and resourceful creatures. Certainly if humans continue on their present wasteful course they will soon put themselves in a very bad spot and possibly consign the future of the planet to your race instead.

Subject: RE: BS: Do human beings really exist?
From: GUEST,archie the cockroach
Date: 16 Sep 04 - 07:47 PM

well suppose there were as many humans as there are cockroaches and we will be around long after you humans are gone so you had better beware.

Subject: RE: BS: Do human beings really exist?
From: GUEST,God
Date: 16 Sep 04 - 07:47 PM

I lay down no rules or restrictions about that, brucie. "Yo, God!" is perfectly all right. It's the inner intention that counts.

Subject: RE: BS: Do human beings really exist?
From: Peace
Date: 16 Sep 04 - 07:44 PM

Like if this is really God, I hope "Yo, God" is OK with you when I pray.

The ape thing: neat idea.

Subject: RE: BS: Do human beings really exist?
From: GUEST,God
Date: 16 Sep 04 - 07:42 PM

brucie...that is a very good point. If there were 6,000,000,000 apes on the planet Earth at this moment, it would cause quite a problem. To put it mildly: It would not be "more fun than a barrel of monkeys"!

Subject: RE: BS: Do human beings really exist?
From: Peace
Date: 16 Sep 04 - 07:36 PM

True about apes being less destructive; however, there ain't 6,000,000,000 of them either.

Subject: RE: BS: Do human beings really exist?
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 16 Sep 04 - 07:36 PM

Bonobos are okay. I've met bonobos I wouldn't mind having a drink with.

Subject: RE: BS: Do human beings really exist?
From: Peace
Date: 16 Sep 04 - 07:34 PM

"This one is really Brahman."

Like in lotsa bull?

Subject: RE: BS: Do human beings really exist?
From: GUEST,God
Date: 16 Sep 04 - 07:33 PM

Human solipsists have navels. There is no doubt about that. As CarolC has cleverly inferred, this confronts the solipsist with direct evidence of the fact that he once had a mother...and by implication a father. This despite the fact that his view of reality is that only the self (his own self) can be known to exist! (Or her own self, in the case of a female solipsist.) The navel is a direct refutation of that false presumption.

The way the solipsist gets around that is by misinterpreting the evidence provided by the navel or simply ignoring it. This is similar to the way people in religions willfully misinterpret or ignore various information to suit their basic assumptions about reality. It is also true of many atheists and non-religious people, although their use of the same deceptive strategem is usually more subtle than in the case of the religionist.

Chongo - Well, I am pleased to see that you are proud of your species, and not afraid to take a stand in its defence. I will readily agree that apes are far less destructive to the natural environment than humans, and that indicates that they are more in tune with Divine Plan in a number of ways than their human brothers and sisters are. However, don't forget that it took a human mind to erect the Empire State Building! King Kong merely climbed up to the top of it.

Subject: RE: BS: Do human beings really exist?
From: Teresa
Date: 16 Sep 04 - 07:31 PM

Chongo, I like chimps, and I also like bonobos. I really would like to be a bonobo when I grow up. Maybe that gets me in trouble with you, but ... ;)

Oh, and my dysnumeric tendencies got me in trouble ... that number of humans was actually 6.1.

T

Subject: RE: BS: Do human beings really exist?
From: CarolC
Date: 16 Sep 04 - 07:26 PM

There are no librarians in Schenectady. I have this on good authority.

Subject: RE: BS: Do human beings really exist?
From: Bill D
Date: 16 Sep 04 - 07:25 PM

Brahman? I thought it might be a librarian in Schenectady with a silly sens of humor?

Subject: RE: BS: Do human beings really exist?
From: Peace
Date: 16 Sep 04 - 07:24 PM

"it's useless to discuss, since all discussions are only manifestions of YOUR exhalted Divine imagination.....sorta like a Solipist gazing at his own navel..."

"Would anyone care to propose alternatives to what Bill D has suggested?"

". . . at his own belly button..."

Yo, God, is this what you had in mind?

Subject: RE: BS: Do human beings really exist?
From: mack/misophist
Date: 16 Sep 04 - 07:21 PM

Yet another guest hiding behind a pseudonym. It's time to out these imposters. This one is really Brahman. So there. Go back to sleep, guy.

Subject: RE: BS: Do human beings really exist?
From: GUEST,God
Date: 16 Sep 04 - 07:18 PM

That is a fascinating sculpture, Bill D, and well done too. Thank you for contributing that.

Subject: RE: BS: Do human beings really exist?
From: CarolC
Date: 16 Sep 04 - 07:17 PM

Do solipsists really have navels?

Subject: RE: BS: Do human beings really exist?
From: Bill D
Date: 16 Sep 04 - 07:08 PM

well, then...here is a wide concept of a human being

Subject: RE: BS: Do human beings really exist?
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 16 Sep 04 - 07:05 PM

So you're open to any opinion, huh, "God"? That's good, cos I have a strong opinion to lay on you, Bub. Human beings ain't more advanced than anthropoid apes! Apes have proven over and over again that we are at least as advanced as humans and probably more so. Most of the humans I know come up short on the chimp scale of intelligence and efficiency, lemme tell ya. A buncha self-important bozos, I call 'em. And prejudiced! They think the world is their oyster. I'm here ta tell you it ain't.

Chongo Chimp

Subject: RE: BS: Do human beings really exist?
From: GUEST,God
Date: 16 Sep 04 - 06:55 PM

That person clearly has a very narrow concept of the term "human being".

Subject: RE: BS: Do human beings really exist?
From: Teresa
Date: 16 Sep 04 - 06:53 PM

Someone in another thread said there were 1.6 human beings, so they must be quite rare.

T

Subject: RE: BS: Do human beings really exist?
From: GUEST,God
Date: 16 Sep 04 - 06:50 PM

Understand, I have no personal stake in this. I demand nothing. I am open to all opinions, and I object to none. Carry on. I eagerly await your expressions of unique individuality.

Subject: RE: BS: Do human beings really exist?
From: Bobert
Date: 16 Sep 04 - 06:47 PM

Subject: RE: BS: Do human beings really exist?
From: GUEST,God
Date: 16 Sep 04 - 06:46 PM

Ah. "Human being". Very well. We can assume, merely for the purposes of this discussion that the term "human being" indicates a group of intelligent or at least semi-intelligent hominids of the genus Homo Sapiens on the little planet you call Earth. Those hominids would appear to be of several different races or colors, but they share certain basic characteristics. They are bipeds. They are more advanced than anthropoid apes. They form what are termed civilizations, usually making use of the written word (but not always) and the spoken word. They usually wear some sort of clothing and use a variety of manufactured tools.

Is this clear?

Subject: RE: BS: Do human beings really exist?
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 16 Sep 04 - 06:45 PM

Human beings certainly do exist as the real God knows. Some of them assume what can be concieved as pathetic disguises, some even calling themselves Guest God. People who are in this way deluded are often very inadequate and have to make themselves appear something they are not or ever could be.
Best wishes.

Subject: RE: BS: Do human beings really exist?
From: GUEST,God
Date: 16 Sep 04 - 06:41 PM

That is an interesting viewpoint, Bill D. You seem to be leaning toward a dismissal of the validity of your own human existence. I'm not sure why you would choose to disempower yourself in that manner, but it's one way of looking at it.

Would anyone care to propose alternatives to what Bill D has suggested?

Subject: RE: BS: Do human beings really exist?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Sep 04 - 06:38 PM

define human being.

Subject: RE: BS: Do human beings really exist?
From: Bill D
Date: 16 Sep 04 - 06:33 PM

it's useless to discuss, since all discussions are only manifestions of YOUR exhalted Divine imagination.....sorta like a Solipist gazing at his own navel...

Subject: BS: Do human beings really exist?
From: GUEST,God
Date: 16 Sep 04 - 06:30 PM

Yes, do human beings really exist...or are they just a figment of my Divine imagination? A temporary blip in the eternal stream of consciousness that I am? Mere phantasms of space/time, playing out their imaginary and fleeting roles in the worlds of illusion?

Discuss...