Subject: Found Musical Treasures From: katlaughing Date: 25 Oct 04 - 05:58 PM Bless my brother for making a reel-to-reel recording in the 1950's of mom and dad's old mostly cowboy 78 records. We just found the tapes after not being sure if they had been lost all of these years or not. Treasures! Anyway, I am using Audacity (thanks, Mudcatters!) to put them on my hard-drive, then they shall be Solstice/Christmas pressies for family and friends. If any of you are interested, please let me know. I think for about $3 to cover the cost of a blank cd and postage, I could share copies with you all. Here are the songs included on these two tapes (unfortunately, he didn't write down all of the artists' names. Bet has the original records, but no access for at least a year.):
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Subject: RE: Found Musical Treasures From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca Date: 25 Oct 04 - 06:24 PM Kat. Peg Leg Jack is in the Forum. Have a look at these old threads: |
Subject: RE: Found Musical Treasures From: katlaughing Date: 25 Oct 04 - 06:28 PM Oh! Thanks, George. They didn't come up when I did a search. I suspect because I didn't leave a space between the peg and leg.:-) |
Subject: RE: Found Musical Treasures From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca Date: 25 Oct 04 - 06:30 PM No problem. I looked, and there's a song called Here's to the Ranger on this page: |
Subject: RE: Found Musical Treasures From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca Date: 25 Oct 04 - 06:41 PM If I Had My Druthers - (Li'l Abner) |
Subject: RE: Found Musical Treasures From: Joybell Date: 25 Oct 04 - 06:53 PM How wonderful kat. I'd really love a copy. Speaking of old treasures - By a happy and totally unexpected chance I just came upon two old 78s made by my grandmother in 1948. Didn't even know she sang. Had no idea she'd made them. Not of any interest to anyone else, of course, but wonderful for me and my cousin. Anyway, kat, that's just so great. Joy |
Subject: RE: Found Musical Treasures From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 25 Oct 04 - 06:54 PM Not leaving a space between the Peg & the Leg could be nasty.... |
Subject: RE: Found Musical Treasures From: katlaughing Date: 25 Oct 04 - 06:58 PM :-)FT Thanks, George! Joy, that is wonderful! Another tape we found, which is an absolute family treasure is of my maternal grandmother reading us stories of James Whitcomb Riley and others plus myself reading Goldilocks and the three bears when I was four years old and had a teeny-high-pitched voice. My grandmother was a fantastic storyteller and reader, as were my parents. One friend who heard that tape said she can hear my grandma's delivery/style etc. in my voice. THAT made my day! Thanks, ya'll kat |
Subject: RE: Found Musical Treasures From: Deckman Date: 25 Oct 04 - 07:06 PM What a treasure. I'm 'gonna PM you. $3 is WAY TOO CHEAP! Bob |
Subject: RE: Found Musical Treasures From: Joybell Date: 25 Oct 04 - 07:09 PM kat, that's so great! I'd love to hear you and your grandmother too. I haven't had our treasure put on CD yet. The records are mildewed and scratched, but we hope to hear at least something. I haven't heard my grandmother's voice since I was 5. I wonder if I sound anything like her? She was a preacher with her own church and each record has a sermon on one side and a song on the other. - We think. Joy |
Subject: RE: Found Musical Treasures From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca Date: 25 Oct 04 - 07:19 PM Git Along Little Dogies From the same source: |
Subject: RE: Found Musical Treasures From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca Date: 25 Oct 04 - 07:32 PM Jack O' Diamonds - Lonnie Donegan |
Subject: RE: Found Musical Treasures From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca Date: 25 Oct 04 - 07:57 PM Strawberry Roan |
Subject: RE: Found Musical Treasures From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca Date: 25 Oct 04 - 08:02 PM That link to the Ranger Ballads has as its first lyric, Texas Rangers I haven't located King of Borneo, Going Back To Texas (lots of references though), Dolan's Poker Party, Jolly Coppersmith (again lots of references to sheet music), and I learned about Woman From Her. I haven't started on the stuff after the Old Chisholm Trail. Some of the others are SO certain to be in the DT that I haven't linked to them. Red River Valley, Cowboy's Lament, Big Rock Candy Mountain are some of these. |
Subject: RE: Found Musical Treasures From: katlaughing Date: 25 Oct 04 - 08:09 PM Great stuff, George!! Thanks! When I have the time, I will post lyrics of the ones you can't find. Some folks have PM'd to say they think I am being to *cheap*:-) If anyone feels moved to send a little more than the three bucks, I wouldn't refuse it. Also, for those outside the US, I do have a PayPal acct and will give you the addy if you send me a PM. Thanks a bunch, folks. It's sure fun to share with ya'll. kat |
Subject: RE: Found Musical Treasures From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca Date: 25 Oct 04 - 08:31 PM Here's most of the rest. Some of them are too easy, as I mentioned above. Simple search in the DT will find those. O'Holligan's Ball and Punching the Dough I haven't located. Though there are tons of links to Punching the Dough. Title like Jesse James is a little hard to work with.(See Below). I'm Betting The Roll on Roamer |
Subject: RE: Found Musical Treasures From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca Date: 25 Oct 04 - 08:32 PM Thanks Kat. Those that aren't in the DT, If no one else does it, I will post them here tomorrow. Gotta run. |
Subject: RE: Found Musical Treasures From: katlaughing Date: 25 Oct 04 - 08:33 PM Also, forgot to say, I am going to try to edit out some of the hisses and other noise, though they are not too bad, at least the first one which I did today. I haven't done that before, so there will be a learning curve, though I have read up on it, here. If anyone wants them "raw" just let me know and I will sned them as is (which would also get them to you sooner.:-) |
Subject: RE: Found Musical Treasures From: katlaughing Date: 25 Oct 04 - 08:49 PM George, listening to these for the second time, I find the lyrics are different from either of the versions you've listed for if I had my druthers. I'll try to get them posted tomorrow. They're really neat. |
Subject: RE: Found Musical Treasures From: GUEST,Art Thieme Date: 25 Oct 04 - 09:45 PM Kat----Be sure to put me down for one as well. It sounds like a great lineup. I suspect that "Mac" is none other than Harry (Haywire Mac) McClintock himeslf. He was the best of all the balladeers of that type and era in my opinion---- and the writer of "Big Rock Candy Mountain". Art |
Subject: RE: Found Musical Treasures From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 25 Oct 04 - 10:39 PM I would be interested in a copy - but it may cost a little more to get it to Australia. Robin |
Subject: RE: Found Musical Treasures From: Seamus Kennedy Date: 25 Oct 04 - 10:48 PM Kat, me too. Seamus |
Subject: RE: Found Musical Treasures From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 25 Oct 04 - 11:09 PM I'll be getting one too - thank you. And at the most convenient season.
Sincerely,
imagine the simple dna structure from a hair is captured multiple from the air - ahhhh - what wonders transformed beyond reason. |
Subject: RE: Found Musical Treasures From: katlaughing Date: 25 Oct 04 - 11:25 PM Art, already gotcha covered, darlin'...you were one of the first I thought of.:-)I'll bet you're right about "Mac." Robin, I'll find out how much to OZ, okay? Can't be that much more. Seamus, no problem, thanks. Please folks be sure to let me know if you want them "as is" or after I edit some hissing, etc. greg/garg...don't know how. I am not willing to share personal info with you, so there'd have to be a trustworthy go-between if you want a copy. kat |
Subject: RE: Found Musical Treasures From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 25 Oct 04 - 11:29 PM It is done - the skids were greased.
Sincerely, |
Subject: RE: Found Musical Treasures From: katlaughing Date: 25 Oct 04 - 11:49 PM Whatever... |
Subject: RE: Found Musical Treasures From: Jim Dixon Date: 26 Oct 04 - 01:23 AM I'm intrigued by the one called O'HOLLIGAN'S BALL. I'd bet that's a misspelling for O'HOOLIGAN'S BALL, which was recorded by Frank Crumit in 1928. Either way, I haven't heard it, and it sounds like it would be a good addition to our collection Lyr Add: Irish songs about balls, wakes, soirees. So I'm interested. This web page says the flip side of Crumit's O'HOOLIGAN'S BALL was DOLAN'S POKER PARTY, which I see is also in your list and probably also fits the genre. Hey, I'll bet there's enough info on the Internet to compile a complete description of those records, even if you don't have the labels. |
Subject: RE: Found Musical Treasures From: beardedbruce Date: 26 Oct 04 - 01:34 AM sounds like a great collection. I'll PM |
Subject: RE: Found Musical Treasures From: Lin in Kansas Date: 26 Oct 04 - 03:09 AM Kat, I'd love a copy. Will PM you. Aren't family treasures great? So glad your brother thought to record them! Lin |
Subject: RE: Found Musical Treasures From: katlaughing Date: 26 Oct 04 - 11:49 AM I'll bet you're right, Jim! My sense is my brother would have done one record, both sides one after another, BUT both of those songs are on separate sides of one tape, so maybe not. It certainly sounds like you've got it right, though my bro is usually very meticulous about getting names right, etc. It maybe that my dad sang it as O'Hooligan's and my brother wrote it the way he heard it. I know I've done that with the old songs when I am singing them...dad and mom's versions always come through no matter what some lyrics might say. Same with tunes.:-) Folks, thanks so much for your interest. I will catch up to you via PM over the next couple of days. I am doing the second r-to-r tape, today, then will start the editing. |
Subject: RE: Found Musical Treasures From: katlaughing Date: 26 Oct 04 - 12:55 PM Have listened to the second tape, now, and it is definitely "O'Hooligan's Ball." |
Subject: RE: Found Musical Treasures From: DADGBE Date: 26 Oct 04 - 01:00 PM Hi Kat, I want one o' them CDs myself. Just let me know where to send the three dollars! Best regards, Ray Frank |
Subject: RE: Found Musical Treasures From: open mike Date: 26 Oct 04 - 01:01 PM oh this sounds like a wonderful collection...count me in! i might wait for the cleaned up version in case that makes quality better -- i don't want to miss a measure! Laurel i have a 78 of my dad which i found..and it is a comical song about sitting on a keg in the cellar...i am gonna go dig it out again! |
Subject: RE: Found Musical Treasures From: katlaughing Date: 26 Oct 04 - 02:50 PM Jim, I am sorry. That was a typo on my part in the track listing. Youa re absolutely right about it being a HOO, not a HOLL! I totally misread your point. Have corrected it now. Thanks. Laurel, you are counted...do you want the hissing version or the spiffy one? I think I've answered everyone's PM now. Please let me know if I missed you. Thanks a bunch, kat |
Subject: RE: Found Musical Treasures From: katlaughing Date: 26 Oct 04 - 05:14 PM Just tried out the editing program, shareware Goldwave. Wow, thanks to whomever recommended it a couple of years ago. It is going to take me some time to learn to use it, so I just wanted to let you all know...edited versions will not be ready for a while. Sorry...I will try to have them done well before Christmas. Things should slow down a little after next week!:-) |
Subject: RE: Found Musical Treasures From: Joybell Date: 26 Oct 04 - 06:04 PM Kat, you have several family treasures don't you. Your brother qualifies as one, I reckon. Cheers, Joy |
Subject: RE: Found Musical Treasures From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca Date: 26 Oct 04 - 06:11 PM Kat, looks like the title "I Learned about Woman From Her SHOULD be I Learned About Women From Her. That was the title of one of Frank Crumit's recordings. It was also recorded by Goebel Reeves, but I haven't found the words. |
Subject: Lyr Add: DRUTHERS; TEXAS RANGERS; SAM BASS; etc. From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca Date: 26 Oct 04 - 06:34 PM From http://www.geocities.com/WileyMike/2Live.html Druthers
Texas Rangers
Sam Bass
Here's to the Ranger!
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Subject: Lyr Add: Keep Your Saddle Tight aka IF Your Saddle From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca Date: 26 Oct 04 - 06:40 PM From http://www.smsu.edu/folksong/maxhunter/1014/ Keep Your Saddle Tight
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Subject: RE: Found Musical Treasures From: katlaughing Date: 26 Oct 04 - 06:47 PM Sometimes he is, Joy...when I listen to his classical compositions he definitely is!:-) If you like non-avant-garde classical, esp. piano, I'll send you one of his, too. George, you have earned a copy, hands-down! If you'll PM me your addy I'd be happy to do that. Now, I shall transpose I learned about womEn from her, |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE LADIES (Rudyard Kipling) From: katlaughing Date: 27 Oct 04 - 04:51 PM Boy, don't I feel like an idjit! My dad would be so disappointed in me! Just talked with my brother and told him how much fun this has been. He reminded me that the one song, "I learned about women from her" is actually Kipling's poem, "The Ladies!" So, here 'tis...I will also post it in a LYR ADD thread of its own: Rudyard Kipling: The Ladies I've taken my fun where I've found it; I've rogued an' I've ranged in my time; I've 'ad my pickin' o' sweet'earts, An' four o' the lot was prime. One was an 'arf-caste widow, One was a woman at Prome, One was the wife of a jemadar-sais, An' one is a girl at 'ome. Now I aren't no 'and with the ladies, For, takin' 'em all along, You never can say till you've tried 'em, An' then you are like to be wrong. There's times when you'll think that you mightn't, There's times when you'll know that you might; But the things you will learn from the Yellow an' Brown, They'll 'elp you a lot with the White! I was a young un at 'Oogli, Shy as a girl to begin; Aggie de Castrer she made me, An' Aggie was clever as sin; Older than me, but my first un -- More like a mother she were -- Showed me the way to promotion an' pay, An' I learned about women from 'er! Then I was ordered to Burma, Actin' in charge o' Bazar, An' I got me a tiddy live 'eathen Through buyin' supplies off 'er pa. Funny an' yellow an' faithful -- Doll in a teacup she were, But we lived on the square, like a true-married pair, An' I learned about women from 'er! Then we was shifted to Neemuch (Or I might ha' been keepin' 'er now), An' I took with a shiny she-devil, The wife of a nigger at Mhow; 'Taught me the gipsy-folks' bolee; Kind o' volcano she were, For she knifed me one night 'cause I wished she was white, And I learned about women from 'er! Then I come 'ome in the trooper, 'Long of a kid o' sixteen -- Girl from a convent at Meerut, The straightest I ever 'ave seen. Love at first sight was 'er trouble, She didn't know what it were; An' I wouldn't do such, 'cause I liked 'er too much, But -- I learned about women from 'er! I've taken my fun where I've found it, An' now I must pay for my fun, For the more you 'ave known o' the others The less will you settle to one; An' the end of it's sittin' and thinkin', An' dreamin' Hell-fires to see; So be warned by my lot (which I know you will not), An' learn about women from me! What did the Colonel's Lady think? Nobody never knew. Somebody asked the Sergeant's wife, An' she told 'em true! When you get to a man in the case, They're like as a row of pins -- For the Colonel's Lady an' Judy O'Grady Are sisters under their skins! |
Subject: RE: Found Musical Treasures From: katlaughing Date: 27 Oct 04 - 04:57 PM Also, I guess these are not going to fit on just one CD, so ya'll will be getting two of them...around two hours of songs! In light of that...if you've already sent the three bucks don't worry about it; if you haven't a little more would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! |
Subject: Lyr Add: Going Back To Texas - Partial From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca Date: 28 Oct 04 - 06:15 PM Found a link to a MP3 clip among those references to the song Going Back To Texas. It seems to be a Texas Swing type of song. Very nice. Here's the part out of that clip: Going Back to Texas I started out from Texas, about a year ago |
Subject: RE: Found Musical Treasures From: GUEST,Penny @ singout0122@netscape.net Date: 28 Oct 04 - 07:47 PM Thanks Kat. What a wonderful thing. I would love one. Let me know what to do! Penny |
Subject: RE: Found Musical Treasures From: Jim Dixon Date: 28 Oct 04 - 08:49 PM Here are some tentative identifications of some of your records. I've compiled this list by searching for records that have 2 songs from your list, mainly at The Online Discographical Project. Some of the songs are so rare that this is easy; the technique sort of breaks down when lots of people have recorded the same song. And I suspect there are some cases where your tape includes one side of a disk but not the other. Carl T. Sprague: Here's to a Texas Ranger / If Your Saddle Is Good and Tight, Victor VI40066, 1926. Frank Crumit: Abdul Abulbul Amir / Frankie and Johnny, Victor VI20715, 1927. Frank Crumit: O'Hooligan's Ball / Dolan's Poker Party, Victor VI21579, 1928. Frank Crumit: I'm Betting the Roll on Roamer / The Return of Abdul Abulbul Amir, Victor 22482, 1930. Haywire Mac (Harry McClintock): Get Along Little Dogies / Trail to Mexico, Victor VI40016, 1928. Jules Allen: Days of '49 / Home on the Range, Victor VI21627, 1928. Marc Williams: Jesse James / Little Joe the Wrangler, Brunswick 269, 1928. Paul Hamblin: Under Dakota's Cross / Strawberry Roan, Victor VI40260, 1930. |
Subject: RE: Found Musical Treasures From: Joybell Date: 28 Oct 04 - 08:51 PM Thanks Kat, but our musical development is not at the stage to understand or properly appreciate avant-garde classical. That's how True-Love puts it. He is just starting on Bach. Me - well I'm stuck somewhere a few centuries back with singing milk-maids and street ballad-mongerers. Your rendition of "The Three Bears" would be greatly appreciated though, along with your grandmother's story-telling and your collection of 78s. Thanks again Kat. Cheers, Joy |
Subject: RE: Found Musical Treasures From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 28 Oct 04 - 09:25 PM Some of these songs, like "Trail to Mexico," have several tunes that have been used. It will be interesting to see the tunes used for the songs in this collection by the various singers. "Days of '49" was in one of the San Francisco songsters for 1872 (anon. but probably by Charles Rhoades (Silber and Robinson printed some of the words in their book). It was really tied down with new music by Abe Zimmer in 1876 (reproduced in Lingenfelter and Dwyer). I have the lyrics and music (much changed from that printed in 1876) by Jules Verne Allen in his book (1933). It will be nice to hear his recording. |
Subject: RE: Found Musical Treasures From: katlaughing Date: 28 Oct 04 - 10:00 PM Jim, thanks so much! That's just wonderful. Your input, too, Q, thanks! Joy, we hate avant-garde! My brother does, too. His "hero" is Mozart. When he was at university, he ticked off all of his profs because he refused to write avant-garde and/or minimal. His music is very tonal, classical in the "good" sense, i.e. listenable! The one symphonic piece we have was recorded at its premiere in 1984 and is called the "Ode to the Rockies." The rest is piano, some of it very romantic and rather ravishing.:-) |
Subject: RE: Found Musical Treasures From: Billy Weeks Date: 29 Oct 04 - 06:25 AM While I think about it, has anyone heard the 78rpm recording of 'Goodbye Old Paint' made by Tex Ritter in the 1930s? It would be difficult to imagine a more authentic, spine tingling performance. It should be reissued with other examples of like (but couldn't possibly be better) kind. |
Subject: RE: Found Musical Treasures From: Billy Weeks Date: 29 Oct 04 - 06:32 AM Is this maybe the 'Old Paint' on kat's tape? |
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