BS: BIG Oil's BIGGEST PROFITS EVER!!!

Subject: BS: BIG Oil's BIGGEST PROFITS EVER!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Feb 05 - 09:20 PM

Exxon and Shell! Biggest corporate profits in the history of the friggin' world! 'dey loves them Bush/Blair boys, and 'dey loves the "Middle East Peace Plan for Freedom and Democracy!"

Because they are manly men who love freedom.

The cash register's ringin'
For me an' my pals
The price we been riggin'
For me an' my pals...

Long Live King George! Hail to the Thief!

Subject: RE: BS: BIG Oil's BIGGEST PROFITS EVER!!!
From: Bobert
Date: 03 Feb 05 - 09:22 PM

Hey, when you let the oil lobby write your national "Energy Policy" what do you think yer gonna see????

Don't take a weatherman to tell which way the wind blows...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: BIG Oil's BIGGEST PROFITS EVER!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Feb 05 - 07:25 AM

Yet, these wars are not about oil. Fascinating, isn't it, how bamboozled we been!

Vote against your own interests folks! Vote Republican cuz they kick everybody's ass, including yours!

Subject: RE: BS: BIG Oil's BIGGEST PROFITS EVER!!!
From: Peter T.
Date: 04 Feb 05 - 07:37 AM

Oil 1, Earth 0 (and counting)

yours,

Peter T.

Subject: RE: BS: BIG Oil's BIGGEST PROFITS EVER!!!
From: Stu
Date: 04 Feb 05 - 07:42 AM

Oil be buggered.

Subject: RE: BS: BIG Oil's BIGGEST PROFITS EVER!!!
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 04 Feb 05 - 08:12 AM

How can anyone in this world be cold and hungry when Shell are making a million pounds an hour profit ?

This company needs nationalising immediately and these obscene profits put to better use.

eric the red

Subject: RE: BS: BIG Oil's BIGGEST PROFITS EVER!!!
From: DougR
Date: 04 Feb 05 - 12:05 PM

And just how have you all been harmed by the big oil company's making big profits? That's what they are in business to do. That's how they pay their thousands of employees who would be out of jobs if the company didn't exist. That's what the thousands of shareholders expect. That's why they invest their nesteggs in those companies. That's capitalism.

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: BIG Oil's BIGGEST PROFITS EVER!!!
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 04 Feb 05 - 12:08 PM

Well done Shell.

Subject: RE: BS: BIG Oil's BIGGEST PROFITS EVER!!!
From: Peace
Date: 04 Feb 05 - 12:17 PM

It's the old shell game, innit?

Subject: RE: BS: BIG Oil's BIGGEST PROFITS EVER!!!
From: Peace
Date: 04 Feb 05 - 12:19 PM

You are of course correct, Doug. I think, however, that many people will object because some shortages have been created in the past, and some folks don''t see the multi-nationals as being all that honest about things. Less than candid as it were. But you are correct: That's capitalism.

Subject: RE: BS: BIG Oil's BIGGEST PROFITS EVER!!!
From: Don Firth
Date: 04 Feb 05 - 12:49 PM

Part of those profits come from having to pay in excess of $2.00 a gallon at the pump. That's a pissed off consumer.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: BIG Oil's BIGGEST PROFITS EVER!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Feb 05 - 12:55 PM

If this war is "all about cheap oil," how come my gasoline prices keep going on up?

Subject: RE: BS: BIG Oil's BIGGEST PROFITS EVER!!!
From: Amos
Date: 04 Feb 05 - 01:09 PM

No, Doug, they do not pay their employees out of profit, but out of overhead. As to how we have all been harmed, money that we had to spend on Shell's excessive margin of profit is denied other things we need or want. I'd be interested to see what the cost of that profit is. Anyone know?

A

Subject: RE: BS: BIG Oil's BIGGEST PROFITS EVER!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Feb 05 - 02:39 PM

No, no--not about "cheap" oil. Just about oil, and who is going to be rolling the dough for controlling it and dispensing it, now that we have a billions of people all over the planet addicted to it.

What kind of day do you suppose YOU will have, when several billions are going through petroleum withdrawal ALL AT THE SAME TIME???

And yep, Doug my man, those Exxon and Shell employees are not only going to be going through petroleum withdrawal, but they'll be out of a job too!

And actually, Doug, it isn't just about making a buck. Petroleum is about what water you are going to be drinking, what food you are going to be eating when all them chemical fertizers are gone....

Subject: RE: BS: BIG Oil's BIGGEST PROFITS EVER!!!
From: Barry Finn
Date: 04 Feb 05 - 07:42 PM

How are we harmed by oil companies making a quick buck?

Can you say Exxon Valdez? She only spilt 37,000 tons of oil, she's failed to make it to the top 50 spills. Still the damage is felt & now Alaska is dealing with another spill from the Selendang Ayu built 2001 as a SINGLE HULLED TANKER. Another fairly small spill but it's potential as an enviormental disaster is growing presently. There's no dollar amount that can be estimated for the damage caused by the E.V. spill. BP payed out in fines, clean up, to the peoples that made their living in the fisheries. They still decline to say who was responsible. Now 37,000 tons is hardly considered a major spill. So who bears the brunt these spills? Not the oil industry, they've some how managed to continue building single hull tankers, off loading & transfering cargo at sea, putting to sea with untrained & shorthanded crews & these are only a few of the ways to save a buck.

Here's only a partical list of spills over 100,000 tons.


1967/Scilly Isles/the Torrey Canyon/119,000 tons

1972/Gulf of Oman/Sea Star/115,000 tons

1976/Spain/Urquiola/100,000 tons

1978/Amoco Cadiz/Brittany/223,000 tons

1979/Alantic Empress/Tabgo/287,000 tons

1980/Irenes Serenade/Greece/100,000

1983/Castillo de Bellver/South Africa/252,000 tons

1988/Odyssey/Nova Scotia/132,000 tons

1991/ABT Summer/Angola/260,000 tons

1991/Haven/Genoa/144,000 tons

and list goes on & on & on &on. Lioyds a few yrs back said that 52% of tankers that can carry over 10,000 tons of oil are still in operation. The Exxon Valdez still sails with oil for her cargo, she's just under a different name. The Odyssey still transports oil but is not allowed in Nova Scotian waters (slap my wrist will ya) It's thought that over the past 35 yrs that at least 5 1/2 million tons of oil has been spilt into the seas. This kind of corprate behavior is not capitalism, it's outright international RAPE, a violation of the enviorment. The fish we eat, if their high on the food chain, is either farmed or toxic. The costal habitat is slowly becoming dead zones. Clam, mussel, scallop & oyster beds are constantly closing. Tuna, Swordfish, Halibut, Shark, Marlin & other large species are becoming less available & more toxic. We're now selling & eating fish that only a few decades ago would've been considered not fit for eating (mussels & sharks are some good examples).

This is only a part of the damage that oil companies bring to our waters & they're not very good stewards when it comes to land & air either. It's all in an innocent days profit.

Barry

Subject: RE: BS: BIG Oil's BIGGEST PROFITS EVER!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Feb 05 - 05:13 PM

jest keep them wars agoing

Subject: RE: BS: BIG Oil's BIGGEST PROFITS EVER!!!
From: dianavan
Date: 05 Feb 05 - 07:24 PM

Oil pollutes air, land and sea so when you complain about the price of gas you are justifying the aggression of the U.S. oil companies and the pollution of our earth. Montreal is under a smog alert today (four months earlier than usual).

I've heard speculation that gas will reach $3.00 a gal. this summer.

When will people stop complaining about the price of gas and start demanding effecient, public transit? When will people start walking and riding bikes again? When will city planners stop making roads bigger and start building bikeways and pedestrian walkways? Not until people start calling for (and funding) a radical change in our system of transportation.

Subject: RE: BS: BIG Oil's BIGGEST PROFITS EVER!!!
From: Peace
Date: 05 Feb 05 - 11:39 PM

Maybe it's that too many people do not give a damn for the future of this planet because they won't be here to live it. Maybe that's it. Then of course it makes a guy wonder why he had children, but hey, I'll be dead, right? Won't bother ME at all. Right? Right?