Irish Folk Song Course

Subject: RE: Irish Folk Song Course
From: Liam's Brother
Date: 25 Jan 99 - 08:12 PM

billy j,

You don't need this course. Just get out and breathe the air around you.

All the best,
Dan

Subject: RE: Irish Folk Song Course
From: BillyJ
Date: 25 Jan 99 - 05:46 PM

Large sigh very downhearted our bus does not go that far and why are all the good venues in america :-(

billy j co antrim N.I.

Subject: RE: Irish Folk Song Course
From: Dave Brennan
Date: 23 Jan 99 - 10:46 PM

I'm pretty sure that by now,judging from all the threads, that you've probably got the words. But, if you still want the words to the version I used to sing, let me know.

Subject: RE: Irish Folk Song Course
From: Kathleen Morgain
Date: 20 Jan 99 - 07:53 PM

Comhaltas Ceoltori Eirann can be found at

http://www.mayo-ireland.ie/CCE.htm

Subject: RE: Irish Folk Song Course
From: Liam's Brother
Date: 20 Jan 99 - 04:18 PM

The first class of the Irish Folk Song Course at The Irish Arts Center in Manhattan (New York City) is tomorrow night, 21JAN @ 6PM. The telephone number to register is 212-757-3318.

A few Mudcatters have expressed an interest in participating in a Singers' Circle. I should tell you that the class is followed by an open-to-all Singers' Circle starting at 7PM; there are 28 enrolled in the class, so there will be plenty of good company. Anyone who lives near NYC or who may be in NYC on a Thursday night for business or pleasure between 21JAN and 11MAR is invited to stop by The Irish Arts Center to join us in song. The Center is located at 553 West 51st Street.

I hope to see you.

All the best,
Dan Milner

Subject: RE: Irish Folk Song Course
From: johnm
Date: 13 Dec 98 - 11:38 AM

MM Thank you. I have ordered the disk johnm

Subject: After Aughrim
From: mm
Date: 09 Dec 98 - 01:59 PM

After Aughrim is sung by The Voice Squad on the Liam O'Flynn (Liam Og O Floinn as was) record Out to an Other Side.

Subject: RE: Irish Folk Song Course
From: Big Mick
Date: 09 Dec 98 - 10:51 AM

Ermma,

Where do you live? Perhaps I can direct you to some sources.

All the best,

Mick

Subject: RE: Irish Folk Song Course
From: Barry Finn
Date: 09 Dec 98 - 10:28 AM

Emma, if you do a forum search using Sean Nos you'll find some past threads on the subject. Also depending on where you are you may find some singers that could offer some guidence.You might also want to research the regional & local styles, if Mick gets any info on that book I mentioned above it'll be of some help but nothing comes as close as being able to hear live a few singers singing in the different styles. This you may find at the many Irish festivals that would have sean nos workshops. If you're in Dan's area you might look into his workshop. Actually, where are you, others may know of singers close by. Good Luck. Barry

Subject: RE: Irish Folk Song Course
From: EMMA MC ERLEAN
Date: 09 Dec 98 - 09:29 AM

I WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE HAD INFORMATION ON SEAN NOS SINGING AND THE SINGERS. I AM STUDYING THIS PARTICULAR STYLE OF SINGING AS PART OF MY DEGREE. aNY INFO WOULD BE GRATELY APPRECIATED. GO RAIBH MAITH AGAT.

Subject: RE: Irish Folk Song Course
From: Big Mick
Date: 05 Dec 98 - 10:52 AM

I have just sent an email inquiry to Comhaltas Ceoltori Eirann on "Traditional Songs and Singers". I will let you know when they respond.

All the best,

Mick.

Subject: RE: Irish Folk Song Course
From: Liam's Brother
Date: 05 Dec 98 - 10:13 AM

Hi Susan-Marie!

In addition to the book Barry mentions above, you might also want to check out...

Shields, Hugh. Narrative Singing in Ireland. Dublin, Irish Academic Press, 1993.

Hugh Shields, a teacher at Trinity College in Dublin, is one the foremost Irish folk song collectors. You can probably get the book over the internet.

Subject: RE: Irish Folk Song Course
From: Barry Finn
Date: 03 Dec 98 - 08:54 AM

Susan-Marie, "Traditional Songs & Singers" put out by Comhaltas Ceoltoiri Eireann & prepared by Seamus Mac Mathuna (1977) is quite a book. The collection of singers is unbelievable, Paddy Tunney, Geordie Hanna & sister Sarah Anne O'Neill, Sarah & Rita Keane ( Aunts of Dolores), Siney Crotty. Tomas O Coisdealbha (Tom Phaidin Tom, as famed & respected in his home county of Conamara as Joe Heaney was abroad), Micheal O Suilleabhain, Liam Weldon, Elizabeth Cronin, Len Graham & plenty more. It dicusses their style of singing the tradition of the song (post Gaelic, national songs, street songs, etc). It also goes into inerpretation & a discussion on the songs that each contruibted. The only problem would be on how to get a hold of the book. Maybe some of the better informed Irish here could help. Good luck. Barry

Subject: RE: Irish Folk Song Course
From: jtmulque
Date: 03 Dec 98 - 08:51 AM

To Dan Milner

Thanks for the information about After Aughrim's Great Disaster.

John Mulqueen

Subject: RE: Irish Folk Song Course
From: Susan-Marie
Date: 03 Dec 98 - 08:03 AM

Barry - Thanks for "outing" Dan's authorship. I have numerous collections of songs, but what I'm looking for is a discussion of history, sytles, great performers - stuff I'd pick up if I'd been hanging out with folk singers all my life instead of scientists.

Subject: RE: Irish Folk Song Course
From: Liam's Brother
Date: 02 Dec 98 - 10:09 PM

Hi!

Alison, it has been an unbelieveable 60F here for days. Of course, it's not February yet.

Will put down the words for 'After Aughrim's Great Disaster' or 'Sean O'Dhuir a Gleanna' tomorrow. There is a great recording of it sung by The Voice Squad on Liam O'Flynn's CD, "Out to Another Side." It is a super song. You have fine taste.

The classic useful collections of Irish folk song in the English language are Colm O Lochlainn's Irish Street Ballads and Sam Henry's Songs of the People. If you want a collection of "pub songs," then get Soodlum's Irish Ballad Book distributed by Oak Publications in the USA. There are books on singing style too but nothing beats listening to a lot of good singers.

One thing I hope to do in my home in NYC is get some talented touring singers here for an afternoon of give and take with approximately 10 good local singers for the purpose of discussing singing style, repetoire, sources, etc. The per person charge would be 2 or 3 times the cost of a concert ticket but it would be a great way for local singers to get right into the topic. This is something that could be done in Washington or Pennsylvania or anywhere else.

BSeed, I will tell you about Liam another time. It is a very funny story and likely worth the wait.

All the best, Dan Milner

Subject: RE: Irish Folk Song Course
From: Barry Finn
Date: 02 Dec 98 - 06:16 PM

Susan-Marie, Seeing that Dan won't blow his own horn, here's a great book. "Songs Of England, Ireland & Scotland - A Bonnie Bunch Of Roses" Oak Publications, 1983, by Dan Milner. Barry

Subject: RE: Irish Folk Song Course
From: BSeed
Date: 02 Dec 98 - 04:28 PM

Hey, Liam's brother--When are we gonna get the real thing, Liam? --seed

Subject: RE: Irish Folk Song Course
From: Bert
Date: 02 Dec 98 - 12:18 PM

and stop off on the way in Pennsylvania.

Subject: RE: Irish Folk Song Course
From: Susan-Marie
Date: 02 Dec 98 - 09:33 AM

Dan - I used to live in New York city (Brooklyn) but that was before I discovered folk music. I wish I was still there so I could take your class. Can you recommend any books on Irish folk songs I can read in lieu of commuting to NYC every Thursday (which would mean missing choir practice)?

Or maybe we could entice you into coming to the Wash D.C. area to offer this course?

Subject: RE: Irish Folk Song Course
From:
Date: 02 Dec 98 - 08:46 AM

Do you know the song "After Aughrim's Great Disaster"? I heard it once by a singer called either Nick West or Mick West. I think in an album called Fine Flowers and Foolish Glances. I have not been able to find the album, and would like to lyrics to the song Thanks for any help

Subject: RE: Irish Folk Song Course
From: alison
Date: 02 Dec 98 - 07:08 AM

Hi,

Nice to feel wanted....... **grin**

Slainte

alison

Subject: Irish Folk Song Course
From: Liam's Brother
Date: 01 Dec 98 - 08:26 PM

If you live near New York City, you might be interested in an 8-week course (21JAN to 11MAR) on Irish folk song that I'll be teaching at The Irish Arts Center on Thursday evenings between 21JAN and 11MAR.

Registration details are available from the Center at 212-757-3318. I understand the catalogue with this and many other music courses is being printed now.

An open Singers' Circle will follow at 7PM so, if you're in town on a Thursday evening, please stop by for a song.

Anyone who lives near Sydney is advised to stay there. The weather is likely to be better.

All the best, Dan Milner