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Subject: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Bobert Date: 09 Mar 05 - 09:33 PM Well, Lee Atwater would certainly be proud tonight. Yup, The Bush's won't have Dan Rather to kick around anymore. And more importantly to the Bushes, vice versa... Yeah, Dan really messed up during Bush I's administration for nailing him on Iran/contra arms-for-hostages deal and this has bugged the Bushes ever since... So this time around the ghost of Lee Atwater tells one of Bush's dirty trick guys to plant some phony documents and hope that Rather bites... But make it look real good 'cause Dan is a little long in the tooth and been around. Come to think of it Dan Rather waa dodging bullets in Nam while "frat boy" was dodging his Guard duty... But that don't matter none 'cause it worked just like Lee Atwater would have drawn it it up. Rather took the bait and so he's out of the Bush's hair... And though it ain't like I gotta a lotta love fir Dan Rather, I do respect the fact that over the years he has never been shy in putting himself in harms way to get the story... I just find it interesting that after dodgin' bullets from out enemies for going on 40 years that the one that hit him was from supposed "friendly fire"... God Speed, Dan and... as per usual, Devil's speed to Bush and his band of thugs... They'll all rot in Hell... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: GUEST,Auggie Date: 09 Mar 05 - 11:05 PM Sorry Bobert, but I'm glad he's gone. He took my once favorite network from 1st to last in the news ratings. Towards the end I had to keep adjusting the horizontal on my set. Some stories were so obviously slanted they damn near slid off the screen. In later years I found I couldn't trust him anymore than I trust FoxNews, and for the same reason. Both value the success of their respective agendas more than they value giving viewers the true story. There was a time when I and many others automatically took as gospel anything the CBS anchor told me. That anchor however, has been retired for 24 years now, and regrettably Dan has squandered the trust, esteem and respect Walter Cronkite and his predecessors built into the CBS nightly news desk. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Bobert Date: 09 Mar 05 - 11:18 PM Dan didn't... His bosses did... He did his job... Sure, he should have just quit but I reckon even Walter Cronkite would have tried to weather the storm... All the media is controled by Bush now... But, yeah, I wish he had jusy quit a few years back in protest... It still doesn't let Bush off the hook. Like why doesn't he ever have to pay for his multitude of screw ups? Nevermind. I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir. Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 09 Mar 05 - 11:33 PM Hallelujah! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Peter T. Date: 09 Mar 05 - 11:41 PM Because he is rich and privileged, that is why he doesn't have to pay. Haven't you learned anything? yours, Peter T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: open mike Date: 10 Mar 05 - 12:39 AM he will still be on 60 minutes... an NPR news story today said he covered Tienenmen Square, Viet Nam War, 9-11, and all of the other big news stories in the last 2 plus decades.. and will continue to do so. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: open mike Date: 10 Mar 05 - 03:47 AM i think it more like he is biting the bullet.. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: GUEST Date: 10 Mar 05 - 04:10 AM Did the IRA offer to fire it? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: beardedbruce Date: 10 Mar 05 - 04:47 AM Bobert, Perhaps you could give the reasons that "All the media is controled by Bush now..." The rest of the world does not agree with you. I have mentioned the pew report, but you insist on making the unsubstantiated statement. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: robomatic Date: 10 Mar 05 - 05:10 AM That last little scandal didn't do him proud, but it was overblown by the blowhards on the right. My issue is why should such a person as Rather be paid so exorbitantly merely because his were the lips with the microphone in front of them? There are many many people living up to and attempting to perform to the standards of journalism. An anchor may or may not have journalistic expertise, but is mostly the figurehead of a cooperative body of many workers. I didn't watch Rather as a rule and didn't watch him last night. We were ABC news watchers and that's how it went down. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: GUEST Date: 10 Mar 05 - 07:53 AM I'm glad to see him go as much as I am glad to see others of his position finally leave the airways. The heirarchy of the news anchor system is antiquated and no longer useful. Most local news broadcast houses have not only already recognized this, but also have instituted what is more or less equal partnerships among their news staff. This is as I think it should be among the network news programs as well. I hope the rest of the old news anchors just keep on falling off their thrones. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: GUEST,Allan C. Date: 10 Mar 05 - 07:55 AM That 7:53 post was mine. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: John Hardly Date: 10 Mar 05 - 08:39 AM Poor Dan, has to be the sacrificial lamb so that CBS can try to maintain their illusion of objectivity. If the major networks would finally give up this notion of objectivity (I know it got them the power they had for a LONG time), and realize that technology no longer allows them the power of the spike, they could get back to the advocacy journalism in which they wish to engage in the first place. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Donuel Date: 10 Mar 05 - 09:21 AM With the successful political assasination of Dan Rather the RW beltway buzz is now questioning the need for any national nightly news programing what so ever. That they have killed the messenger while praising Caesar is truly a victory for totalitarianism. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Don Firth Date: 10 Mar 05 - 01:55 PM A classic example of the Tactics of Diversion. Of course, what gets lost in all of this is that, even though the document turned out to be bogus, the story itself, about Bush ducking out of his National Guard obligations, is true. The document was not the only basis for the charge, it was merely one of several pieces of evidence, and the only one that turned out to be bogus. Even before that document showed up, it was well establishe that Bush had been disqualified from flying because he didn't show up for his required physical, many Guard members remembered that he wasn't at meetings, a welcome was planned for him (the son of a VIP) when he transfered to Alabama and he didn't show up, several of his guard-mates testified that, although he was a fairly pleasant fellow and a real party animal, he was cocky and seemed to think the rules didn't apply to him. . . . Throw a lot of mud at Dan Rather, and while everybody's watching that spectacle, Bush tip-toes unnoticed out of the room. Could it be that someone handed Rather a dead fish? Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: GUEST,TIA Date: 10 Mar 05 - 02:04 PM Amidst all the righteous indignation about "falsified" or "forged" or "fake" memos, Bush supporters always, always, always forget Marian Carr Knox. She's the one who typed the real memos. And, she says that "those aren't the memos I typed", but "their CONTENT IS ACCURATE"! So, ultimately, Dan Rather was driven out for reporting the truth. And didn't the righties used to cry light mad about Clinton caring more about symbolism that substance? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Once Famous Date: 10 Mar 05 - 04:16 PM Dan Rather got his. Too cool. His biased "reporting" did him in. No more Dan "Rather" than Walter. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Bill D Date: 10 Mar 05 - 04:58 PM I wonder why biased reporting doesn't do in Bill O'Reilley, Joe Scarbourough and Robert Novak? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: GUEST,marks Date: 10 Mar 05 - 05:03 PM I am sending an application to CBS to take over Dan Rathers job. I am completely qualified. I can read. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Bobert Date: 10 Mar 05 - 05:13 PM Well, well, well... Seems like quite a few folks don't particularly like poor 'ol Dan Rather. Heck, I'll admit that I'm not much of a CBS fan myself, except for "60 Minutes"... But the point I was trying to make had less to do with Dan Rather than about the power of the current administration... And they are not above "dirty tricks"... I mean, Karl Rove makes Lee Atwater look like a Boy Scout... With the recent arrempt by the FCC to further consolidate media ownership, I am fearfull that the Bush asministration has gone a long way toward silencing the press. Even the Wsahington Post admitted that it had not been vigilant in questioning Bush's pre-invasion statements. Like when a newspaper such as the Post backs down from reporting the news, that is pretty scarey and doesn't bode well for Thomas Jefferson's warnings that the success of democracy depends on an informed electorate... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: gnu Date: 10 Mar 05 - 05:17 PM Over fourty years of excellent service. Some in harm's way. Many, many times defending the poor and ignorant against the rich and knowledgeable. And it's being trivialized for one mistake, IF it was that. It's a damn shame. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: John Hardly Date: 10 Mar 05 - 05:22 PM The press has gone a long way toward silencing itself. The times they are a-changin'. MOST people get MOST of their "news" from the internet. Then they might tune in to the evening news to see moving pictures of what they've already made up their informed minds about. The news cycle is too fast, too 24 hours, to expect much from the evening news. And alternative, even better sources are out there -- Sources that admit their biases so that you can better make up your mind. More importantly, there are now sources out there that make it impossible for stories to get "spiked" as they once did. Used to was that you'd watch the news and wonder why the logical conclusion of the story never seemed to happen. Now you see stories unfold and the better sources show themselves pretty fast as their "predictions" come true (while the not-so-good source's "predictions" don't). |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: DougR Date: 10 Mar 05 - 08:08 PM I don't understand why folks like Don Firth still insist that the story about Bush's National Guard duty is true. If it were, EVERY network would jump on it like flies on you know what. You say you can prove it, Don, send your information to CNN, ABC, or NBC. I'm confident they would love to broadcast it. Hell, even Fox would broadcast it, provided of course the information you provide is credible. DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Bobert Date: 10 Mar 05 - 10:35 PM And then DougR woke up... That's what we are talking about, Dougie.... Your guy ent AWOL and like he can'r prove he didn't so guess what? Well, I'll tell ya what. Dan Rather, who dodged bullets in Nam, is gonna take the wieght for yer guys' AWOL!!! Don't bother you? Din't think so.... Just remember how amny folks jumped on the bandwagon on Germany in the late 30's. Same crap, different day... You can chooze to just make jokes about it. Heck, that's fine with me 'cause we *both* know that yer guy is not aonly a crook but a facist.... Hey, like Walter Cronkite used to say: "That's the way it is." I can live with facists better who are honest about it than folks who deny it... Lets start getting real here. Have you studied history? No, not the mythology that is taught in public schools... but history? Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Don Firth Date: 10 Mar 05 - 11:09 PM The information has been out and around for a long time, Doug. Established. If you missed it, it's because you had your nose pressed to the screen, filling your eyes and mind with Bill O'Reilly and friends. I could give you a pretty good list of links to documents, but they've already been posted several times, and you wouldn't believe it anyway. It's all "liberal press." Anything that doesn't praise Bush to the skies is obviously "liberal press." Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Pauline L Date: 11 Mar 05 - 12:02 AM Today's NY Times carried a scathing article on Dan Rather. Some of the issues raised are: 1. There is a traditional rivalry/enmity between print and TV journalism. (This may account, in part, for the scathing nature of the article.) 2. Dan Rather liked to think of himself as a reporter rather than a news anchor. He believed that he could do more than read the news. 3. Rather tried to be the news, not just write it. 4. Walter Cronkite said that CBS should have chosen Bob Schieffer, not Dan Rather, to succeed him. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: DougR Date: 11 Mar 05 - 05:42 PM Pauline, the report I heard was that Cronkite said, Bob Schieffer or someone else. Don: if, as you say, there is absolute proof that what Dan Rather reported about Bush is true, there are numerous Liberal organizations that would scramble to be the first to demand that the Pentagon revoke President Bush's Honorable Discharge from the Texas National Guard, and refund all funds he was paid as an active duty member of the Guard. That is a fact, and I don't see how you can refute it. You accuse me of bias. I admit that I am, but what about you, my friend? DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Don Firth Date: 11 Mar 05 - 06:13 PM Yes, I'm definitely biased. But I'm not making this up, Doug. Various liberal groups have already called for the revocation of Bush's honorable discharge from the ANG, but remember, that's Texas. They've been studiously ignored. What else is new? Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Bobert Date: 11 Mar 05 - 07:17 PM Right now the "liberal" are getting out muscled and out shouted, Doug, so you here much of anything out of them... That's what bugs me about the media... 51% of the people get 90% of the media coverage... Yeah, tune into any talk radio or talk TV (C-Span) and it's 90/10 or 95/5... That's why you don't know what is really going on... Like did you know that the Demopcrats were "locked out" of the the Congressional conference room last year where the Medicare "Peek-a-Boo, Now-Yer-Covered-Now-Yer-Not" Medicare perscription drug legislation was written. That's right. Locked the heck out. Like Key in the danged door, thank you. No, I didn't think you knew that. Why. Because this media didn't bother to report it... Heck, as far as I'm concerned this is a much bigger story than Clinton messing 'round with Monila Lewinski. But the media didn't bother to bring it up. That's what I mean... The media is going along with what ever Bush wants and if they should stray, they will also get a bullet. This was a serious shot fired accross the bow of the good ship "Truth"... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Louie Roy Date: 12 Mar 05 - 10:14 AM I got to the point where I couldn't stand that arrogant SOB over a year ago so I turned off CBS.I missed a lot of good shows that CBS had to offer,and I watched CBS go from # 1 to a dismal # 3.I turned CBS back on the other day after Dan was gone and found out after a year maybe there are other station just as good and maybe better.Everyone to their own opinion but mine is this Dan shafted the public for 20 years and it was about time he got hit in the ass with a bullet |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Troll Date: 12 Mar 05 - 10:25 AM Bobert, if the media didn't report it, how did you find out about it. Just curious. Rather committed the cardinal sin for journalists. He lost his credibility, possibily through carelessness and possibily because of hubris. When he kept insisting that the documents were genuine even after the experts had said they were not, he became a liability to CBS. Without solid credibility, a journalist is nothing more than a gossip columnist. In the eyes of his bosses at CBS (bottom liners to a man) poor credibility equals no job. Follow the money, Bobert. Rather cost them money so he had to go. Call it CBS' move to regain THEIR credibility. troll |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Susu's Hubby Date: 13 Mar 05 - 10:16 AM "and doesn't bode well for Thomas Jefferson's warnings that the success of democracy depends on an informed electorate..." I thought that is what happened....Rather was given false information, that information was broadcast as real, information proved as false thus informing the electorate that CBS news cannot be trusted to tell the truth. CBS is once again singled out for doing nothing but showing blatant bias towards the left and going as far to have reported something as fact when obviously, as most liberals often do, they have built their hopes and dreams upon the sand and then bitch about their bad luck when high tide comes rolling in. But somehow, I think you guys will find a way to blame the rich man for your short- sightedness. Rather should have gotten the boot the day after he was made to apologize to the dozen or so viewers that CBS has left. Hubby |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Don Firth Date: 13 Mar 05 - 12:36 PM And they called Reagan "the Teflon president." No matter what he did, nothing would stick to him. Compared to what Bush gets away with, Reagan was a piker. So Rather's staff screwed up on verifying a couple of documents. Several people, including Bush's commanding officer, have verified that even though the documents were not the original copies, what they revealed about Bush was true. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Bobert Date: 13 Mar 05 - 04:04 PM Make that "main stream media", troll... There *are* better sources for getting more fatcual information... The internet being one... Pacifica another... "The Lowdown", etc... And, hubby, as Don pointed out, CBS not being able to verify the documents 100%, in spite of the woman who typed them agreeing that they represented the crux of what they contained was true, this does not changes the facts of the case. Bush didn't finish out his obligation. Ken Starr, if given a small staff, budget and supaona power could prove this in a couple of weeks... I mean, if you bother to research it, there's enough info that has been posted here in Mudburg to get any reasonable jury to convict... No, not a bunch of handpicked Bush worshipers such as yourself but *reasonable* people... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Susu's Hubby Date: 15 Mar 05 - 07:47 AM Bobert, I'm afraid that you've stepped a little far out on that limb this time......Leave the new manufacturing to the guys who are good at it.......the guys at CBS, NBC, ABC, MSNBC, CNN and the numerous liberal media outlets available on the net. At least when they manufacture a story, it takes at least thirty minutes to find the correct info to discredit them. Unfortunately, in your case, as soon as we see your moniker, we instantly know we're getting ready to read a load of BS. Hubby |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Bobert Date: 15 Mar 05 - 08:26 AM Those who live in glass houses..... and as fir the "liberal media" BIG LIE? Hahahahahahahahahahah..... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: beardedbruce Date: 15 Mar 05 - 02:43 PM Bobert, As I have said, SHOW ME THE NUMBERS! All the studies I have seen over the last 15 years show a LIBERAL bias in the TV and print media. I have given examples- why can't you provide even ONE instance, if you think that the conservatives control the media? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Don Firth Date: 15 Mar 05 - 02:53 PM Fox News Service. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Don Firth Date: 15 Mar 05 - 02:58 PM That's ONE instance. But let's get down to the nitty-gritty. Who owns what? You don't bite the hand that owns you. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Alba Date: 15 Mar 05 - 03:35 PM Well if Dan Rather got false information and reported it as fact then got fired for not doing his homework...well...(aside from taking the heat off regarding GW's Military record...sadly...) that's how it is when you go ahead stating unconfirmed information as Truth. Thankfully though no-one got killed through Dan the Man's bad intelligence. What I can't grasp is when the information regarding Nuclear programmes in Iraq was found to be false but reported as Fact and a War was started using said dubious information...why is the President Bush still in Office! Seems the the loss of Dan Rather (regardless of your opinion of the Man) will have less Global impact than the fact that 51% of the People in this County chose to ignore the false information that was used to put our Military into Iraq and re elected the people that didn't do THEIR homework. The battle cry in the beginning was not "to bring them Democracy". It was most definetly and clearly that Iraq/Hussein was a threat to the World due to his Nuclear/Chemical weapon program and Colin Powell had the documents to prove it ( producing them at the UN) and the President confirmed these ( now known to be false...but not to the man at the top???) facts when he addressed the Country about his decision to send in the Troops to oust Saddam and find the WMDs. None of the people who Spun that Tale lost their jobs in fact they got to keep them for another 4 years, some of them got promotions! Confused and just a bit pissed off at the double standards applied. A lie is a lie no matter who the Liars are. The consequences though are vastly different! Jude |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Bobert Date: 15 Mar 05 - 03:54 PM Don, Thanks for the assist... But don't expect it to change any of bb's arguments since all the so-called "studies" that he will point to are studies that have been conducted by folks like the Hertige Council... In other words, not actual objective studies but academic exercises to keep the loyal followers in the dark... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Susu's Hubby Date: 15 Mar 05 - 04:16 PM Whew.... I'm sure glad to find out that Bobert is the only "enlightened" one among us.... I need a beer...... Hubby |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: beardedbruce Date: 15 Mar 05 - 07:58 PM Pew? What exactly WILL you accept as an "impartial" viewpoint- the Guardian? I may have been unclear- I will agree that Fox is somewhat to the right of center in many opinion programs- BUT the studies look at the media as a WHOLE, asking about the reporters, editors, and newsgatherers. In those studies, the majority have been to the LEFT of center. Regardless of Bobert's opinion, if MOST of the media is LEFT of the POPULATION if is trying to "enlighten, that is a LIBERAL BIAS. Please show me a single study of the media that shows any other bias. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Susu's Hubby Date: 15 Mar 05 - 09:29 PM BB, You are exactly right in what you are saying. Even the selection in what news stories that are going to run every night are left up to people with an opinion. Those opinions are going to be what makes up the news. It doesn't matter what the political leanings are of the person delivering the news, it only matters when the finished product is presented to the people. How it's decided upon, formed, shaped, edited, and presented, even what words are emphasized, are carefully crafted by people with opinions on that particular subject. It's even amazing on what people think is newsworthy. Bobert, evidently, thinks that anything that remotely shows the Bush administration in a negative light is newsworthy. I, on more than a few occasions, have been accused of being a KOOL-AID drinker or follower or whatever it was that was said. But at least I take the time to research the things that are important to my family and me. If I can see what may be a good thing for us then I will support it. There are a few things that I disagree with Bush about. But I digress. The point is that as long as fallible humans are responsible for relating information to the rest of us then we are at the mercy of what their particular beliefs are whether they are left or right of center. Unfortunately, most of the reporters and editors are far left of that mark. I don't think that anybody can be truly "center". Hubby |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Bobert Date: 15 Mar 05 - 09:32 PM Hey, bb, yer SCREAMIN' (like ahhh, caps... that's like screaming in cyberworld) doesn't make yer' you arguements any more believable, whci they aren't... If you were to spend one day in the mind of someone from the other side you'd then know just how friggin' ignorant you sound... We know about the media. You can't possibly because yer brain has been scubbed so hard that its a wonder you don't have migraines... But if it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy, you and hubby just keep chantin' that right winged mantra and offering proof by posting one right winged organization's "study" after another... Bottom line, you can't defend Bush's servie record so you and hubby would rather engage in "rope-a-dope", this-study-and-that-study tactics... Will either one of you answer me this question? When back in October before Bush ordered then invasion of Iraq there were anti war demonsrations in just about every major city in the entire world. Heck, the one in D.C. drew a quarter million folks and guess what? Did the supposed "liberal" put these demonstrations on the front page? Page 2? 3?... Well, I'll tell what... It barely got reported. Page 17 in the POst and then the 15 or so war monging Bush-heads got as much press as the 250,000 anti war folks... Real friggin' "liberal", guys... Yeah, real friggin' liberal... Same thing happened in November... Millions of people around the world in the streets. May 500,000 in DC... Larry in New York reported at least 500,000. London: 1,000,000!!! But did your "liberal media report any of this on the front pages and if some papers did where was the placement of the story??? Bottom left where it gets lost... But don't let me interupt that circle jerk that you and hubbt got going... Must be nice to be so barinwashed that you don't really actually have to think... Now go find another "study" by the Heritage Council to post... BObert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: beardedbruce Date: 15 Mar 05 - 09:33 PM And THAT is the reason that ALL sides of the political spectrum should be listened to, and given a chance to present their views. It seems that some here feel the ONLY acceptable viewpoint is their own. And yes, I mean YOU, Bobert. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: beardedbruce Date: 15 Mar 05 - 09:47 PM ALL I saw were the anti-war demonstrations- I did not see ONE single demonstration asking Saddam to comply with the UN requirements Which would have prevented the war. - So what does that say about the media? Oh, NONE of you ever demonstarted about THAT? Seems rather narrow minded of you...... Not to mention completely against the anti-war stand that you claim to support... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Don Firth Date: 15 Mar 05 - 10:04 PM I can't think of any better way to get bb and hubby to accuse a genuine think-tank (as opposed to organizations such as the Heritage Foundation and that ilk), or any other agency--or for that matter, a totally disinterested visitor from Arcturus Twelve (say, and alien anthropologist studying the various life forms on earth)--of being liberally biased that to have them conduct a totally independent study and come to the conclusion that the media is not to the left of center, but to the far right. Guaranbloodyteed! And although he is a gentleman and a scholar and very bright, highly perceptive fellow, Bobert is not the only "enlightened" one among us. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: beardedbruce Date: 15 Mar 05 - 10:09 PM http://secure.mediaresearch.org/news/MediaBiasBasics.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_bias#Liberal_versus_Conservative http://www.fairpress.org/identify.htm But, of course, ONLY the LIBERAL media is allowed to present the "Proper" view about liberal bias in the media..... But try to address the POINTS presented rather than the fact you don't like the source- Or are you saying one should not bother to read about anything one doesn't agree with already? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dan Rather Takes Bullet.... From: Bobert Date: 15 Mar 05 - 10:12 PM Quit screamin', bb, and maybe some folks would take you more seriously. If you want to make a point use *'s around the word or phrases that you want to emphasize. Your behavior is rude and you won't win any arguements in cyberworld by trying to shout down others... Might of fact, until you learn to act more like a civilized person, sans the *juvinilistic screaming*, I think I'll just go back to ignoring yer ignorant self... And as fie yer claim about Saddam... All the media did was pound that crap into the American people's head with one headline after another about WMD's and CBS night after night pounding that PT brainwash crap into people heads... But don't belive me... Google Washington Post, the suppopsed "liberal" newspaper and register and go back yourself and read the head lines starting in Late September up until the invasion. One day after another of Bush PR druming... No, don't believe you. Just pull up one of yer right wing Bush sites and read a few warm and fuzzies over there... They'll make you feel better... Yeah, you want to get the rest of the story? How about coming back with a list of the headlines from the Post from September until the invasion... No, don't go cherry pickin'... List 'um all... And then tell me just how liberal the press is... Or, if facts ain't yer cup of tea then just keep on proving that "an ignorant man is Hell bent on proving his limitations"... Bobert |
