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Subject: BS: An Oirish Quiz
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Mar 05 - 10:58 AM

Well now that Saint Pat's is just around the corner and you got the once a year Irish drinking green beer and the real lads laughing their arses off at them, I thought of a little quiz to see to commemorate this event...Now for me not being Catholic (hell I'm not even Christain), Saint Pat's is just another excuse to get pissed and to listen to good music, as if I really needed one...but anyways here goes:


1. Which of the following signers of the Poblacht Na h-Eireann was shot in a chair due to an infected wound in his foot?

a. Padraig Pearse
b. Joseph Mary Plunkett
c. James Connolly
d. Thomas Clarke
e. Michael Collins


2. Which of the following men were slated for execution in the aftermath of the Rising, but the sentence was commuted to imprisonment. For a bonus answer tell me why.

a. Henry Joy
b. William Pearse
c. Thomas MacDonough
d. Eamonn DeValera
e. None of the Above.


3. Which of the following instruments that are popularly seen as an Irish instrument is of English origin?

a. Uilleann pipes
b. feadog stain
c. bodhran
d. clarsach
e. they are all of irish origin

4. Which of the following songs is truly of Irish origin?

a. Danny Boy
b. The Unicorn
c. Barnyards of Delgaty
d. Follow Me Up to Carlow
e. And The Band Played Waltzing Matilda

5. Who wrote that hauntingly beautiful song Ride On?

a. AC/DC
b. Christy Moore
c. Jimmy McCarthy
d. No one did it is traditional.

6. Who said at a speach over the grave of O'Donovan Rossa "But the FOOLS , The FOOLS, the FOOLS! .. They have left us our fenian dead and while Ireland holds these graves, Ireland unfree shall never be at peace!"

a. Padraig Pearse
b. Michael Collins
c. Eamon Devalera
d. Joseph Mary Plunkett
e. Wolfram

7. Whom did Grace Gifford marry just shortly before his execution in 1916?

a. Bobby Sands
b. Thomas Clarke
c. Joseph Mary Plunkett
d. Tom Barry
e. None of the above. I made it up with insane threads of my own feverish imagination.

8. The 20th century in Ireland had three major events all called Bloody Sunday. What were the dates and the events leading to them being christened that name?

9. The song Back Home in Derry is based on the work of which striker?

a. Francis Hughes
b. Patsy O'Hara
c. Bobby Sands
d. Joe McDonnell
e. No one. It is a traditional song.

10. Slainte means what in English?

a. health
b. cheers
c. piss off
d. salute
e. just drink the fecking thing will ye?

11. True or false. Corned beef and cabbage is a traditional Irish meal.

12. Whiskey is an anglicised word coming from an Irish phrase: uisge bheath. What does that phrase mean?

a. firewater
b. wife beating medicine
c. irish tears
d. water of life
e. liquor

13. The Irish Civil War was started because of what reason?

a. Eamon Devalera being a worhtless cunt.
b. partition of the six counties of ulster fromt he rest of Erin.
c. religion, Catholic and Prod Irish are not meant to be together.
d. the 11 pm closure times at the pub.

14. Tommy Makem once wrote a song about the Four Green Fields. Name them.

15. Who said "The great only appear great because we are on our knees. Let us rise!"

a. Padraig Pearse
b. Michael Collins
c. James Connolly
d. Eamon DeValera
e. Jim Larkin


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Subject: RE: BS: An Oirish Quiz
From: Mrrzy
Date: 16 Mar 05 - 11:39 AM

OK, I know some of this stuff, all from listening to The Clancy Brothers.

1) (Actually I think this was The Dubliners) I think is (c).
8) (From listening to NPR yesterday, OK, it wasn't all the Clancy Brothers) - one Bloody Sunday was when the cops shot into a crowd of (theoretically unarmed) demonstrators and killed 14 of them.
10) I thought it meant Welcome, so there you are. I guess (d).
12) (d)
13) I guess (B) but I'm pretty sure I'm wrong
14) Ulster, Leinster, Munster and Connaught.
15) Wish I knew, what a great quote!


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Subject: RE: BS: An Oirish Quiz
From: GUEST,Sooz (at work)
Date: 16 Mar 05 - 11:40 AM

Too hard - I can only claim around 5 correct answers! I'll have another look when I get home.


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Subject: RE: BS: An Oirish Quiz
From: Torctgyd
Date: 16 Mar 05 - 11:51 AM

1)b
2)d because the English thought he was Spanish
3)b no idea what it is (penny whistle?)
4)c as I've not had one of them yet and I know Danny Boy was written by and Englishman
5)a (at last an a)
6)e (making a full set)
7)e (as I'm making these answers up as I haven't cheated by looking at t'internet)
8)Well there was one in '69 (people shooting at paratroopers - allegedly)
9)c (thought you were talking about football for a minute)
10)a
11)false (don't know which is worse corned beef or cabbage)
12)d (haha I know this one as I lived in Scotland)
13)a (although d runs it a close second I would think)
14)no idea (aren't Makem's from Sunderland?)
15)e as I've never heard of him.

Well as you can probably tell I'm not Oirish as I probably got 1/15 so I can't go out and have some green beers tomorrow.


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Subject: RE: BS: An Oirish Quiz
From: GUEST,Mrrzy, no cookie now
Date: 16 Mar 05 - 12:16 PM

14) Well, you did ask if we could NAME them, not if we could SPELL them - it's Connacht, not Connaught.

Of course in Irish it's probably spelled something about a mile long - How ARE the 4 provinces spelled in Irish, anyone?


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Subject: RE: BS: An Oirish Quiz
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Mar 05 - 12:23 PM

13 out of 15, plus the extra point.


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Subject: RE: BS: An Oirish Quiz
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Mar 05 - 04:23 PM

the winner gets big mick's used potato


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Subject: RE: BS: An Oirish Quiz
From: Wolfgang
Date: 16 Mar 05 - 04:40 PM

1c
2d (not because they thought he was Spanish, but because he was American citizen and the British wanted the Americans to join WWI)
4d
5c
7c ?
9c
10a
12d
14 the four provinces have been named already
15a

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: BS: An Oirish Quiz
From: PoppaGator
Date: 16 Mar 05 - 05:00 PM

I don't have answers for all of 'em, but I have different answers than those given so far for a few:

2) (d) -- deValera: not because of his Spanish surname, but because he was a US citizen, born in Brooklyn.

6) (a), I think; if not, it has to be (b). That particular funeral speech is famous as a prelude to the 1916 Rising, and I'm pretty sure that the famous (or soon-to-be famous) speaker has to have been Pearse or, if not, Mick Collins.

8) The first of the Bloody Sundays was when British armored cards rolled into Croake Park during a Gaelic football game to massacre a random selection of players and spectators in retalization for that morning's multiple assassinations of counterrevolutionary bigwigs. I'm not too good on dates ~ early 1920s?

The third was the 1969 incident; what was the second?

13) (b) probably is correct; (a) might well be one way of putting it, but is hardly an objective response. The Irish Civil War was a conflict between those willing to accept the Treaty (which included the Partition along with the establishemnt of the Free State) and those who refused and wished to continue fighting the British for control of the entire island by an independent Irish government(preferably, if not necessarily, a republic).


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Subject: RE: BS: An Oirish Quiz
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Mar 05 - 05:02 PM

as wolfgang, except:

6.padraig oearse
7.plunkett
13.B
15.padraig pearse


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Subject: RE: BS: An Oirish Quiz
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Mar 05 - 05:03 PM

3 Is one I've not seen an answer to. b. Penny Wistle. I think that was Clarke.


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Subject: RE: BS: An Oirish Quiz
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Mar 05 - 05:06 PM

30/01/72 poppagator, was the date of the civil rights march.


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Subject: RE: BS: An Oirish Quiz
From: ard mhacha
Date: 17 Mar 05 - 05:35 AM

No problem skated through them all.


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Subject: RE: BS: An Oirish Quiz
From: GUEST,Willy McBoyne
Date: 17 Mar 05 - 05:47 AM

Don't know the answer to any of them. Who gives a fuck, anyway.
Who can answer the following question
Ireland, a middling little tosspot of a nation of outstanding mediocrity, inspires a mixture of pride and self-pity in it's citizens. Why?


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Subject: RE: BS: An Oirish Quiz
From: greg stephens
Date: 17 Mar 05 - 06:04 AM

I seee poeple are fighting a bit shy of answering Q3 in detail(the one about English/Irish origins of certain instruments). The correct answer, I submit is: (a) there is no evidence that any of them are of Irish origin. (b)There is no evidence whatsoever that any of them are of English origin. Anybody who claims otherwise is suffering from chauvinistic wishful thinking(or patriotism as it is occasionally called).


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Subject: RE: BS: An Oirish Quiz
From: ard mhacha
Date: 17 Mar 05 - 06:12 AM

Greg, it dosen`t matter where the instrument originated as long as it is well played, and that also applies to any song well sung, [that sounds like our Chinese Take-away]

I wouldn`t blow a gasket over it.


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Subject: RE: BS: An Oirish Quiz
From: greg stephens
Date: 17 Mar 05 - 06:30 AM

I dont blow gaskets about instrument origin, ard mhacha. If you read my post, you'll see I was pointing out that nobody knows the origin of these things. But that doesnt prevent many patriots from blowing multiple gaskets in all directions trying to claim things for their own. It can't be done! They may be irishm, they may be English,they may be from Papua New Guinea for all we know. It is what you do with them that counts.Come to the Bird in Hand tonight an join in.


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Subject: RE: BS: An Oirish Quiz
From: GUEST,Paul Burke
Date: 17 Mar 05 - 07:40 AM

1. Which of the following signers of the Poblacht Na h-Eireann was shot in a chair due to an infected wound in his foot?

Seems a rather drastic cure, even before penicillin.


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Subject: RE: BS: An Oirish Quiz
From: GUEST,Elfcall
Date: 17 Mar 05 - 08:50 AM

It was James Connolly who was executed whilst sitting, tied to a chair due to a wounded ankle. He had reachedthere by military ambulance and stretcher.

Elfcall


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Subject: RE: BS: An Oirish Quiz
From: PeteBoom
Date: 17 Mar 05 - 08:57 AM

I know a fair number of people who would claim that #13 should be answered either A or B, as they're related, or A AND B...

As for instrument origins, I suspect it depends on which manufacturer and/or marketing person for whistles you believe most. "Origins" for the pipes are arguable as keyed pipes developed much later than others. Does that make them a totally different animal or do they share the same middle-eastern origins? I tend to agree with greg on that one.

Had a chuckle about the origins of the songs... had a bit of a sing-song a couple of weeks ago and someone asked for the "Irish song," Green Fields of France. We discussed it, pointing out that the proper name was No Man's Land, and it was written by a Scot who now lives in Australia. The requestor (who was listening/watching not participating) got mad and said not nice words. We sang it anyway. Worked in a couple other "Irish" songs as well as we were on a roll. Andy M. Stewart stuff, etc. Apparently, to paraphrase Sean Connery in "The Longest Day", "it takes a Scotsman to write a good Irish song".....

Cheers -

Pete


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Subject: RE: BS: An Oirish Quiz
From: Fiolar
Date: 17 Mar 05 - 09:10 AM

Actually regarding question 8, there were only two "Bloody Sundays" in Ireland. The first was on November 21st 1920 and the second was the one on which the enquiry is still ongoing namely January 30th 1972. The original "Bloody Sunday" took place in Russia on January 9th 1905 when a massacre of Russian protestors took place.


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Subject: RE: BS: An Oirish Quiz
From: Wolfgang
Date: 17 Mar 05 - 09:27 AM

The first, on November 13, 1887, happened in London when police violently disrupted a meeting of socialists in Trafalgar Square.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: BS: An Oirish Quiz
From: Wolfgang
Date: 17 Mar 05 - 09:36 AM

The first, on November 13, 1887, happened in London when police violently disrupted a meeting of socialists in Trafalgar Square.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: BS: An Oirish Quiz
From: Wolfgang
Date: 17 Mar 05 - 09:50 AM

The first, on November 13, 1887, happened in London when police violently disrupted a meeting of socialists in Trafalgar Square.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: BS: An Oirish Quiz
From: Wolfgang
Date: 17 Mar 05 - 09:51 AM

I hate this browser here


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Subject: RE: BS: An Oirish Quiz
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Mar 05 - 10:06 AM

Actually Fiolar you are wrong. there were three. One was before 1916.


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Subject: RE: BS: An Oirish Quiz
From: Torctgyd
Date: 17 Mar 05 - 12:12 PM

An apparently "Dirty Old Town" is an Old Irish Folk Song being sung by 70,000 football fans on Saturday!


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Subject: RE: BS: An Oirish Quiz
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Mar 05 - 08:05 PM


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Subject: RE: BS: An Oirish Quiz
From: Sorcha
Date: 17 Mar 05 - 08:55 PM

OK,
Who was so hated by the English that he was beheaded?
Where, and why was he so hated?
Which gaol were all of the above held in?
Where is that gaol and what is it now?
Who was the Irish 'king' who invited the English/Normans in?
Why?
Who arrived to 'save the day' then?
Which of the patriots was condmened to death, but given a repreive and
allowed to die in gaol?
Why?
Whose shadow is indelibly on the wall at above prison?
Why was Mick Collins assinated by his own 'side'?
Has that gaol been in a film T or F?
Who was The Big Guy? Why the nickname?

Finally, a retoric question...what might have happened to Ireland if The Big Guy had been elected President instead of de Valera? Interesting alternative history there.


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Subject: RE: BS: An Oirish Quiz
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 18 Mar 05 - 08:31 AM

One of the above questions states "Whiskey is an anglicised word coming from an Irish phrase: uisge bheath."

I am sure lots of Scots would dispute that.

From 'A brief history of Scotch Whisky'. What is certain is that the Ancient Celts practised the art of distilling, and had an expressive name for the fiery liquid they produced - uisge beatha.

Yet another case of anything Celtic being automaticaly called Irish? Surely as the Celts progressed from south east to the north west, Ireland would have been the last place they settled wouldn't it? Therefore lots of countires between Africa and north west europe can lay prior claim to all things Celtic? Including Uisge Beatha.

Or did the Celtic migration only pause at the Emerald Isle for a couple of Millenia and then resume to cross the Atlantic? What we are seeing now with the Celtic language, if that is the case, is possibly the same thing that has happened to the English language when that went west?

Make you wonder;-)

Other interesting point is that the term for Brandy where it was first used as a medicine in French monastaries was Eau de vie. Easier to work out that meaning. Similar ring to it don't you think?

DtG

BTW - found out last night that the major surviving racial trait of the Celtic peoples is a long body and short legs. So, all of you who are not of Gnomish dimensions, bugger off from our Celtic heritage:-)


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Subject: RE: BS: An Oirish Quiz
From: Den
Date: 18 Mar 05 - 04:35 PM

1. Which of the following signers of the Poblacht Na h-Eireann was shot in a chair due to an infected wound in his foot?

c. James Connolly



2. Which of the following men were slated for execution in the aftermath of the Rising, but the sentence was commuted to imprisonment. For a bonus answer tell me why.

d. Eamonn DeValera because he was born in America. They had no such pangs of conscience when it came to th Irish.



3. Which of the following instruments that are popularly seen as an Irish instrument is of English origin?

Don't know if any of them are uniquely Irish

4. Which of the following songs is truly of Irish origin?

d. Follow Me Up to Carlow


5. Who wrote that hauntingly beautiful song Ride On?

c. Jimmy McCarthy


6. Who said at a speach over the grave of O'Donovan Rossa "But the FOOLS , The FOOLS, the FOOLS! .. They have left us our fenian dead and while Ireland holds these graves, Ireland unfree shall never be at peace!"

a. Padraig Pearse


7. Whom did Grace Gifford marry just shortly before his execution in 1916?

c. Joseph Mary Plunkett


8. The 20th century in Ireland had three major events all called Bloody Sunday. What were the dates and the events leading to them being christened that name?

I only know of two 1920 and 1972

9. The song Back Home in Derry is based on the work of which striker?

c. Bobby Sands


10. Slainte means what in English?

b. cheers


11. True or false. Corned beef and cabbage is a traditional Irish meal.

False

12. Whiskey is an anglicised word coming from an Irish phrase: uisge bheath. What does that phrase mean?

d. water of life


13. The Irish Civil War was started because of what reason?

b. partition of six of the counties of Ulster fromt the rest of Ireland.


14. Tommy Makem once wrote a song about the Four Green Fields. Name them. Ulster, Munster, Leinster and Connaught

15. Who said "The great only appear great because we are on our knees. Let us rise!"

e. Jim Larkin


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Subject: RE: BS: An Oirish Quiz
From: Fiolar
Date: 19 Mar 05 - 08:25 AM

Den: "Slainte" means "Health" and the Civil War started because Dev refused to accept the terms of the Treaty as signed by Michael Collins and Co.
Regarding the Bloody Sundays. I can only trace two taking place in Ireland as I already mentioned.


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Subject: RE: BS: An Oirish Quiz
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Mar 05 - 12:25 PM

the first one was a strike in dublin in 1913. it gave helped give rise to connolly's irish citizen army.


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Subject: RE: BS: An Oirish Quiz
From: GUEST,Paddy
Date: 19 Mar 05 - 12:29 PM

What the fuck is Oirish? you engish cunt!


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Subject: RE: BS: An Oirish Quiz
From: gnu
Date: 19 Mar 05 - 01:49 PM

So, is anyone, GUEST in particular, going to post a list of the correct answers ?


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Subject: RE: BS: An Oirish Quiz
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Mar 05 - 10:57 PM

1. Which of the following signers of the Poblacht Na h-Eireann was shot in a chair due to an infected wound in his foot?

c. James Connolly


2. Which of the following men were slated for execution in the aftermath of the Rising, but the sentence was commuted to imprisonment. For a bonus answer tell me why.

d. Eamonn DeValera-He was born in the US and the Brits wanted the Americans to join World War 1, and so were afraid of offending them.

3. Which of the following instruments that are popularly seen as an Irish instrument is of English origin?

b. feadog stain-This is the tin whistle. invented in England

4. Which of the following songs is truly of Irish origin?

d. Follow Me Up to Carlow; Danny Boy was written by an Englishman, The Unicorn by American writer Shel Silverstein, and And The Band Played Waltzing Matilda was written by Eric Bogle


5. Who wrote that hauntingly beautiful song Ride On?

c. Jimmy McCarthy


6. Who said at a speach over the grave of O'Donovan Rossa "But the FOOLS , The FOOLS, the FOOLS! .. They have left us our fenian dead and while Ireland holds these graves, Ireland unfree shall never be at peace!"

a. Padraig Pearse

7. Whom did Grace Gifford marry just shortly before his execution in 1916?

c. Joseph Mary Plunkett

8. The 20th century in Ireland had three major events all called Bloody Sunday. What were the dates and the events leading to them being christened that name?
The first one was in August 1913 in Dublin during the Lockout. It helped to give rise to Connolly's Irish Citizen Army. The second one was also in Dublin. Michael Collins sent his squad out to assassinate 14 British Intelligence officers. Then the RIC raided a Gaelic Football game at Croke park, killing 14 innocent people. Then two high ranking IRA officers were arrested and killed in suspicious circumstances. The assassinations of the Intelligence officers crippled the operations of Dublin Castle. The third Bloody Sunday was on January 30, 1972. Soldiers from a British parachute regiment fired upon a crowd of unarmed peaceful civil rights protesters in Derry, killing 13 people and wounding several others. The British government's tribunal found the soldiers were not guilty of shooting the civilians in cold blood.

9. The song Back Home in Derry is based on the work of which hunger striker?

c. Bobby Sands

10. Slainte means what in English?

a. health

11. True or false. Corned beef and cabbage is a traditional Irish meal.False

12. Whiskey is an anglicised word coming from an Irish phrase: uisge bheath. What does that phrase mean?

d. water of life

13. The Irish Civil War was started because of what reason?

b. partition of the six counties of ulster fromt he rest of Erin.

14. Tommy Makem once wrote a song about the Four Green Fields. Name them. Connaught, Leinster, Ulster, and Munster

15. Who said "The great only appear great because we are on our knees. Let us rise!"

e. Jim Larkin


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Subject: RE: BS: An Oirish Quiz
From: gnu
Date: 21 Mar 05 - 05:46 AM

Thanks.


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