BS: Schapelle Corby

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: Amergin
Date: 27 May 05 - 05:55 PM

Well, what is really odd, Don, are the stories coming up about the baggage handlers smuggling drugs in the airports...that should have made these so-called judges think there may be something to her story.

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: John O'L
Date: 27 May 05 - 06:42 PM

Ebbie -

No known history with drugs

If is was her own, why would she take 4 kilos to Bali, where it is cheaper than at home?

Not sure how long whe was planning to stay, but I got the impression it was like a two week beach holiday - that sort of thing.

Yes, the ammount is one of many things that should have been queried at greater length. You don't take grass to Bali to sell. As someone else observed, that's like taking coal to Newcastle, and 4K or 9lb is enough to keep a heavy toker going for quite a while, or so I'm told.
Apart from anything else, a bag that size would have been as obvious as the beard on Father Christmas. She is clearly intelligent enough to know that.

There are many answers to question.

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: GUEST
Date: 27 May 05 - 09:12 PM

why did she do it in the first place ?    the guilty eyes tell all when it was first busted ?    GUILTY AS HELL.

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: Ebbie
Date: 27 May 05 - 10:38 PM

I gather that Indonesia is making a point. Kind of like OJ's acquittal. When you are making a 'statement' you don't need to consider truth and rationality.

At this rate, I fully expect the Bali 9 to get the death penalty.

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: dianavan
Date: 27 May 05 - 10:41 PM

Nobody would smuggle pot into Bali. Its absurd.

The judges must know the baggage handlers or...

someone set her up for a possible prisoner exchange.

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: Keef
Date: 28 May 05 - 12:56 AM

The conviction was a foregone conclusion. To those few who have decided she is guilty please try and apply logic rather than prejudice.
Logic says that no sane person attempts to smuggle 4Kg of cannabis in a barely concealed see through bag, to Indonesia when there is no possibility of commercial gain. The fact that law enforcement officers lie and collude to bolster their case should be familiar to anyone who has had involvement with the law. Many innocent persons have spent decades in prison and been exonerated when police corruption was proven.
The fairness and impartiality of the Indonesian justice system is certainly questionable. Even when the alleged heroin supplier to the Bali 9 was killed by police in Jakarta, the important evidence siezed was handled by dozens of ungloved hands and hopelessly contaminated.
There are many other foreigners (less photogenic) who have jailed in Bali by dodgy evidence..and yes I am concerned for them also. The Schapelle corby case is so clearly unjust that many people have finally said...enough is enough. We will not just give up on this one.

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: GUEST
Date: 28 May 05 - 06:47 AM

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: Tam the man
Date: 28 May 05 - 07:17 AM

she commited a crime she should the time.

in other words tough shit

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: hilda fish
Date: 28 May 05 - 07:31 AM

By Australian justice, which has its underpinnings in 'innocent until proved guilty', with the onus on the prosecutor to prove guilt, she most likely would have been found 'not guilty'. By Indonesian justice where the onus is on the accused to disprove guilt, it was inevitable that she be found guilty because she had admitted to owning the body board bag which contained the drugs. The laws in both Australia and in Indonesia by the nature of how they are and their underpinnings, are pretty rigid. In either case their is not much room to move. Consideration is based on the charges on the prescribed limitations fixed around sentencing. The law appears to be an ass in either country in my opinion. However by all reasonable and logical standards, she does appear to be a very innocent party in which case it is a terrible thing that she is facing 20 years in prison, whether it be Australia or overseas. I have no illusions that the appeal is going to help as one can't get around the fact that by Indonesian legal practice she has admitted guilt to possession by saying that the body board container was hers. If she had said that it was not (because she didn't recognise its contents) she wouldn't be legally in deep shit. On another tack, the first couple of times I went overseas my baggage was clearly tampered with including broken locks. Many of my fellow passengers assured me this was usual. I have found out since that it is so now I only take hand luggage and it travels with me. People are gladwrapping their bags but it doesn't help if you are a determined thief which it seems that some baggage handlers here in Australia are. Meanwhile poor Schappelle Corby is facing 20 years and as much as anyone can say 'rot in hell' I don't wish anyone to 'rot in hell'. I have such an uncomfortable feeling about this one and feel very helpless.

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: Tam the man
Date: 28 May 05 - 07:41 AM

she was proved guilty, so tough shit again.

She is not a poor woman, she was found gulity with drugs in her bag and then she comes out with an excuse that the bagge handlers tampered with her bag, I can beleive that it could happen to anyone, but she was found guilty and she has to do 20 years in prison.
Well welcome to the real world Schapelle Corby.

I don't mean for her to 'rot in hell/prison' but she was found gulity of a crime and mo she must serve her time in Prison.

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: GUEST,moocowpoo
Date: 28 May 05 - 12:44 PM

Tam, on What basis are you assuming she actually IS Guilty?. Yes, the verdict was Guilty but the only piece of evidence, which could have proven her guilt of innocence, was rendered inadmissable, by Indonesian Airport authorities, workers etc .The parcel was pawed at and handed around, covered in countless fingerprints, destroying any previous prints, this WAS discussed in other posts to this thread. If this situation were to arise in Australia, it would undoubtedly be thrown out of court, There is not enough concrete evidence for conviction, as far as I'm aware, there was NO solid evidence.

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: Ebbie
Date: 28 May 05 - 12:55 PM

Tam the man, if I don't smoke cigarettes but was observed holding a cigarette for someone else, you can SAY that I smoke but you would NOT be correct.

Just because one is FOUND guilty, it does NOT mean that one did the crime.

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: Tam the man
Date: 28 May 05 - 01:00 PM

The verdict was she was found guilty, what part of the statment don't you lot understand, she was sent to prison so she is GUITLY.
she went to prison so she must of being guitly, they don't send women or men to prison unless they are guilty, so unless they can prove that she was 100% that she was innocent, then until then she's gulity.

She was found gultiy, you see we in Scotland have three verdicts, guilty, not gulity and not proven. Not proven means that the person is found to be free in other words not gulity but with doubts.

So unless they can prove that she was innocent then she guilty, god sake its like banging your head off a brick wall.

God sake I give UP SHE INNOCENT HAPPY NOW.

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: Tam the man
Date: 28 May 05 - 01:01 PM

Whe don't you get tore into Guest Joe, because they agree with me.
and there are millions of others too

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: Tam the man
Date: 28 May 05 - 01:12 PM

if she was innocent then she wouldn't being sent to prison would she now.

And when am I the only one getting it in the neck, for expressing an opinon, there is guest Joe who said, Fucking who cares, let her rot!get him told as well.
and stop ganging up on me please, all I want is a peaceful life, I wish I had started psting on this thread.
And you lot call yourselves, peace lovers, and yet you all hate me because I said that she was gulity.

As far as I'm concerned (Pardon the spelling) I hope that she is found innocent but until then the JURY found her gulity that's why she was sent to prison, if the JURY had found her innocent then she would be a free woman and we would not be having this talk.

Tom
PS
I will not be answering any more messages anymore on this thread.

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: Tam the man
Date: 28 May 05 - 01:26 PM

One last message to you all, I pray that she's innocent, I'm sorry that I got angry, but as I say it's like banging your head against a brick wall, people just don't want to listen to other people's opinons, you are welcome to yours and I welcome to mine.

let bygones be bygones.

mind there was one time I tried to let bygones be bygones with someone, however that someone didn't want to let bygones be bygones with me, so I told that person to go away.

So I hope that all you people out there accept my saying I'm sorry.

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: dianavan
Date: 28 May 05 - 02:39 PM

Better to bang your head against a brick wall than to be tried for a crime in Indonesia.

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: Keef
Date: 28 May 05 - 06:08 PM

Looks like another case of"collateral damage" in the war on drugs.
Indonesia is reported to have 2 million heroin addicts so it seems the war is not being won.
Under the justice system in Australia and many other countries Schappele would have been tried before a jury and probably been aquitted since the case could not be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
In Indonesia the defence evidence was rejected as hearsay but the word of customs agents who claimed Schappelle confessed ownership (hearsay) was believed. All evidence which pointed to her innocence was called "subjective" and was disregarded.
Schappelle may well be an innocent victim in the "war on drugs".
Baggage tampering is not that improbable. However if it is accepted as a defence then we open up a whole can of worms.
This is why we cannot expect pressure on Indonesia from the Australian government.

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: Bill D
Date: 28 May 05 - 06:39 PM

You don't seriously believe those "judges" decided this verdict, do you? I'd bet my grannie's girdle they were told exactly what to do from 'higher up'. Indonesia, Singapore, Myanmar....some of those places are getting to be pretty awkward places to visit. Justice doesn't have the same definition everywhere.

What a world!

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: John O'L
Date: 28 May 05 - 07:02 PM

Tam -
Can I suggest that your posts were specifically replied to as a mark of respect, because you actually had something to say? Guest Joe had nothing to say. "Let her rot" is not worthy of a response. You were not being attacked, you viewpoint was being criticised. That's what happens sometimes when you have a viewpoint.

In the spirit of such friendly criticism, I think it's pretty naive to think that if a person is found guilty they must be guilty.Especially when there is so much obvious evidence that the trial was a fix.

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: Hrothgar
Date: 28 May 05 - 09:20 PM

Tell it to Timothy Evans, Tam.

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: Tam the man
Date: 29 May 05 - 05:10 AM

I stand corrected, and as for Tim Evans, I cannae because he's dead.

And that was a miscarrage of Justice, however as I said if it had been in Scotland both Tim Evans and Schapelle Corby would be free and alive.

Sorry about all the things I said, I just get a bit angery that's all.
As I said when I thought about it, I hope that she is found innocent, and that she will be free. it could happen to anyone.

SORRY SORRY SORRY

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: GUEST,Realist
Date: 29 May 05 - 05:49 AM

So Schapelle Corby and her supporters would like us to all believe that she is the innocent victim in a drug smuggling ring.

I hesitate at this notion that the drugs were put into her bag for transport to Sydney or any other part of the world for the following.

Here we have 4 kilo's or about 10 pounds of cannabis that's worth around 30 thousand dollars.

I have serious reservations that any drug dealer would relinquish control of his stash. but here goes the scenario.

Think of the position he puts himself in. Firstly either he or a friend (who will want to get paid for the endeavour)needs to enter a highly secure area (an airport) with a large bag of dope. What idiot would try this as even if they think they can get away with it the chances of discovery are increased with the area they are going into.

This person then has to find a piece of baggage that's going to the destination of choice that has enough room to fit 10 pounds of dope in it and is in a position that allows him to get the dope into the bag without being detected. Very risky in a secure area even if you know what's going on.

Let's say the end destination is Sydney. The person now has to put the next guy in the line in the loop and tell him what flight and which bag. The possibility of the next guy being in the right place at the right time without anybody being around is very low as the selection of the bag etc is random and who knows where loader no. 2 is going to be working in Sydney.

Can he get to the correct flight baggage and find the correct bag in time.

(How long would it take for Airport staff to find your baggage if you had to be offloaded from a flight - 10 minutes 20 minutes???)


Loader N0 2 then has to get the dope out and secret it in the airport somewhere without another person knowing before heading to the next person who is probably the buyer.

Lets get real here, if the dope is only worth 30K how much is it going to cost to pay the loaders, lets say a grand each - which is chicken feed to earn if you could be caught with 10 pounds up your jumper. Even 5 grand each probably wouldn't do much to entice and that's 30% of the value of the product.

The risk that's inherent with at least two other people handling your product is high even in an honest transaction.

The possibility of the package ending up at the correct destination is very very low. but this drug dealer is going to take the chances because driving to Sydney is far too risky!

Why on earth wouldn't you just hire a bloody limousine and have some one drive you from Brisbane to Sydney. I'm sure it would be cheaper, comfortable and a little less risky.

For all that say "yeah but It happens" I say to you that if the shipment is 4 kilos of coke then the profit is so high and the money to offer the loaders is irresistible. For 4 kilos of dope - I doubt it very much.   

Think of it like this, how good would your chances be if you had a pillow case stashed with 30000 dollars in 50 dollar notes and you took the above steps to get it from Brisbane to Sydney.

How many of you would try it and succeed if it was filled with feathers. Would the chances of you getting the pillow case in Sydney be 50/50... Probably less and the Corby supporters swear that this is how the dope got into the bag.

The reality is that dope dealers don't let chance come into the delivery of the product without trying to negate it. They usually have mules to transit the drug. When there are no mules they pay high prices to make sure it gets through and cannabis doesn't earn enough to be in this class of drug travel.

I noted that the demeanour of Corby c hanged within minutes of the sentence, her normal hysterical self was able to try and clam her mother. She was in control and certainly showed to me that perhaps all the previous hysteria was for the courts benefit.

It amazes me that in this accelerated would she wouldn't submit to the court simple things like polygraph tests etc. If the innocence was that profound this would have been a marvellous test to start the court case with.

This has been a well orchestrated press sale that has produced excellent profits for the news agencies her in Australia. What a better cause to exploit - beautiful girl in a Bali prison...we lapped it up like puppies in a feeding frenzy

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: freda underhill
Date: 29 May 05 - 06:30 AM

All they had to do was fingerprint the plastic bag - that would have shown whether she touched it or not. And the security video that showed her reaction mysteriously disappeared. What chance did she have?

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: Tam the man
Date: 29 May 05 - 07:03 AM

At last someone with a bit of Sense, realist.

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 29 May 05 - 07:19 AM

Whether she did or did not commit the crime, her case highlights the risks we all take when travelling. For a start, we tend to ignore the fact that when abroad we are subject to the laws and processes of the countries we visit, and these can be very different to the ones we are used to. The idea is that by choosing to go there, we also accept their way of life, their laws etc. To then turn round and try to flout the laws, or bypass them, after the event, does not seem right - if we have a beef with a coutry's laws we should take it up with them through diplomatic and other processes at some "neutral" time. Otherwise, by continuing diplomatic relations with such a country while not complaining about their legal system we are tacitly accepting it.

One may argue that there are of course exceptions, in the case of dictatorial or otherwise objectionable governments with which we choose to retain diplomatic relations for other reasons (usually business). But it's such a fine line between upholding unwritten international behaviour codes and respecting a country's sovereignty.

5-6 years ago three Turkish long-distance drivers were arrested in Saudi Arabia for possession of illegal stimulants, and were duly sentenced to death and executed. The "stimulants" were "keep you awake" energy-sweets that you can buy in any sweet shop in the UK, which the drivers were using to keep them going for the long hours of driving. What a crime! But they did not know they were illegal in Saudi, and paid with their lives for that.

Had they been US, UK, Australian, French or German citizens, a deal would have been negotiated between the respective ambassador and the authories, I am sure. But they had the additional misfortune to be Turkish - a country with very little pull in the theocracies of the Middle East, being a secular (albeit Muslim) country, and with no economic might.

Which only serves to show that there is one rule for the mighty, and another for the weak; one for the rich, and another for the poor; even at those exalted levels of.

So - back to Schapelle: She stood no chance of being found innocent, given the legal system of the country she visited; whether she committed the crime or not. But she may yet be a little lucky: The Australian Government is trying to get her to serve her sentence in Australia.

Lucky she wasn't Turkish.

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: Keef
Date: 29 May 05 - 07:05 PM

Hi Mr Realist.
You are of course welcome to hold your opinions. Neither of us were there on the day so what both of us hold is just that, an opinion.
The reasons that I think allow sufficient doubt for such a conviction and sentence are as follows.
Frequent police blockades of interstate roads (including the back roads) using highly sensitive sniffer dogs. Known involvement of airport baggage handlers to make interstate shipments. Arrest of Qantas baggage handler for cocaine importation on same day as Schappelles flight.
Baggage handlers never checked on leaving airport at end of shift thus providing ample opportunity. Instances reported previously of drugs found in travellers bags in Bali and reported to Australian consulate (0n official record). No evidence of Scappelle being a grower, therefore who would give $40,000 worth on consignment. Schapelle has offered blood samples to show zero use of cannabis. When "busted" at airport how is she supposed to react, what facial expression would be acceptable to the cynics? Surprise? Fear? Shock, Disbelief. How do you define a look of "guilty as hell".
In summary ....plenty of reason for reasonable doubt.

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: John O'L
Date: 29 May 05 - 07:25 PM

Add to that the Keystone Kops manner of her arrest and the requirement by the chief judge that she name the person who put the dope in her bag.

I don't think there's any drug syndicate involved, I think it was orchestrated by the Indonesian authorities from beginning to end, either as an example or for a prisoner exchange. That's the only possible scenario that makes sense of all the inconsistancies.

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: GUEST,Somebody offended by the whole rotten affair
Date: 30 May 05 - 09:06 PM

I realize I'm American, and this isn't really my business or affair. It's for her own nation and relatives to deal with. But what the hell were they thinking? Ten well-armed trained mercs could have extracted her from the courtroom and had her out of the country in a matter of minutes! A simple matter of wiping out the officials at the front of the courtroom and dragging her out to the street for a helo extraction. She could've been feet wet in minutes and on a ship a hundred knots out of Indonesian territorial waters in an hour. So why the hell were her family crying and making a spectacle instead of doing what was necessary to get her loose!!! This is the sort of thing that creates fueds here in the States that've killed hundreds. It's at least grounds to assasinate the judges and their families in retaliation! So why were they standing around wailing like lost souls instead of doing something.

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 31 May 05 - 12:22 AM

Troll alert

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: John O'L
Date: 31 May 05 - 01:35 AM

At the weekend the Salvation Army conducted its Red Shield Appeal. Apparently the Salvoes reported a large number of people wanting assurance that the money they donated would not be going as aid to Indonesia.

Not quite swinging on vines with a knife between the teeth, screaming "Ah, oh-ah, oh-ah, oh-aaaah", but hey, it's a start.

The shame of it is that the people of Bali and the people of Aceh will be the ones who end up suffering from it.

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: dianavan
Date: 31 May 05 - 02:08 AM

If they want to start a boycott, why target the Red Shield Appeal? The punishment should be a natural consequence - a sharp drop in the number of tourists to Indonesia might do it. Anyone who would go to Indonesia after an incident like this is playing Russian roulette, anyway.

Embassies should issue a tourist advisory!

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: GUEST,kay
Date: 31 May 05 - 02:51 AM

Why would a baggage handler put the drugs in a bag that was tagged international. They would put it into a bag that was domestic between Brisbane and Sydney. They wouldn't put it in a bag destined international. Doesn't make sense to me.

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: dianavan
Date: 31 May 05 - 03:01 AM

Maybe their intention was to put it into a domestic bag but when their plans were thwarted (for whatever reason) they quickly stashed it where they thought it could be re-routed and retrieved at a later date by another baggage handler.

Who knows? However it ended up on a flight going into Bali which makes no sense from a commercial stand point. It was obviously thought to be a safe way to hide the contraband TEMPORARILY as it wasn't concealed very well at all.

This is a sham.

Is a prisoner exchange in the works?

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: GUEST,John O'Lennaine
Date: 31 May 05 - 06:07 AM

The wheels are in motion

Ir will be interesting to see who they want.

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: GUEST
Date: 31 May 05 - 09:10 AM

Were the Indonesian court asked, as freda pointed out, that the bag could/should have been fingerprinted. Sounds real logical . And what was their explanation about the missing tape?

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: Keef
Date: 31 May 05 - 07:54 PM

There is a story going around amongst those who hold the guilty view that the dope was to be delivered to Schappele's sister who runs a surf shop in Bali. The dope was for sale to Aussie surfers who like the green grass of home. Now I doubt that the profit margin (if any) would be sufficient to justify the risk, however if I was going to make the attempt, here is what I would do.
Carefully slice the boogie board down the seam, hollow out the core, insert dope, seal the edge with silicon, thoroughly clean down board to remove any lingering dope smell. That should give me a good chance of avoiding detection by dogs or customs.
Here is what I would not do.
Stuff a huge see through bag of dope in the pouch of the board bag and not even bother to lock the zipper.
The alternative scenario which is a stuff up by bent baggage handlers looks more likely with new revelations every day of criminal activity at Sydney airport.
In Australia flights are used for the domestic leg of the journey before departing overseas. Baggage handlers have been involved in diverting baggage from international baggage carousels to domestic to avoid customs inspection.

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: Keef
Date: 01 Jun 05 - 06:48 AM

One more thing folks.
It would be expected that normal procedure at Brisbane airport is to check outgoing bags for explosives, native fauna etc. (Budgies are frequently smuggled in men's speedos).
If I had just checked in a bag containing a barely concealed stash of dope, then I would be feeling slightly tense.
Photos and videos of Schapelle at Brisbane airport show a happy and relaxed person looking forward to her holiday.
If airport personel did not X ray her baggage, or undo the zipper and inspect it then where is the post Sept 11 security.
If she really was allowed to check in such a large package of organic material and have it loaded on board a plane in Brisbane, then have it pass through Sydney airport undetected, then what sort of clowns are in charge of security.
I know that when I came through Brisbane airport a few years ago, customs pulled me over because the X ray showed something that looked a bit like a block of hash. It was in reality a small piece of wedding cake that I probably should have declared to quarantine.
So, which is the most likely scenario, dodgy handlers making use of their easy entry and exit to secure areas..or .. Bold and brazen smuggler risking huge penalties for very low profit if any?

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: Tam the man
Date: 01 Jun 05 - 01:14 PM

You are going around saying that this lady is innocent of a crime, and yet you go and commit one by not declaring that you have food with you when landed at Brisbane.
I thought that you weren't allowed any type of food on planes in Australia, or is that just arriving in Australia Keef, lucky for you you were let off.

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: Keef
Date: 01 Jun 05 - 06:10 PM

Righto, I will go and lock myself up in the shed for 20 years..guilty as hell!

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: Joybell
Date: 01 Jun 05 - 09:16 PM

Just a comment after our recent holiday. Travelling from America on international flights check-in luggage must be left unlocked. Locked luggage is not accepted. Just presenting a locked bag is viewed as suspicious. Your check-in luggage can be examined at any point.

In Australia the rules are different and check-in luggage is examined while you are present - if you are selected for this. We only took what we could carry on board and bought what we needed in America. Joy

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 01 Jun 05 - 10:40 PM

G'day,

Today's Sydney Morning Herald, p. 1, says:
Qantas security chief sacked

A disgraced former drug detective who was mentioned adversely during the Police Royal Commission in 1996 has been sacked as a security m,anager at Qantas. He was stood down following a security review conducted by the airline ...

(continues ... probably online at www.smh.com.au ...)

... er yes ...

Regard(les)s,

Bob

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 01 Jun 05 - 11:35 PM

Somebody sent some white powder in an envelope to the Indonesian Embassy in Canberra. Apparently now claimed to be harmless, but everyone was decontaminated. Made front page of all Indonesian Newspapers, who mostly took no notice of her trial.

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 12:01 AM

G'day again,

A couple of blickies:

Qantas security chief sacked

and:

Bacteria powder "not dangerous"

Of course, it must be right ... I read it in the paper!

Regard(les)sly,

Bob

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: dianavan
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 01:36 AM

What is bacteria powder???

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 02:38 AM

G'day dianavan,

Errr... good question! It's the phrase used in an earlier version of the SMH article - presumably meaning that they had determined that the "white powder' had some organic / bacterial content ... but weren't sure what it was. Now it seems it wasn't anything dangerous - just "threatening" in the context of the 360 such anthrax/etc. postings in the US that followed the WTC attack.

I wasn't expecting it to be anthrax ... we don't have the sort of fulltime chemical/biological warfare units that provided the material in the US. It might just as well have been talcum powder ... the same full decon and evacuation would have occurred.

Regards,

Bob

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 07:00 AM

Since Little Johny made such a big fuss about insisting on the right to invade SE Asian countries to attack terrorists, I wonder if we should start worrying about the next Indonesian 'Boat People'?

:-)

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: Keef
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 07:57 PM

There is solid evidence of criminal activity among airport security and baggage handlers. It makes sense to send dope from Brisbane to Sydney because Sydney is the biggest city and the biggest market.
Sending by road risks detection. Baggage handlers enjoy safe access to airport..no checks on what they carry in or out.
Baggage handler puts dope in zippered compartment on boogie board, nice and obvious for easy removal in Sydney.
Now this system has a fatal flaw, if the Sydney handler fails to collect the stash...oops!
Reasons for failure to collect could include...big cocaine shipment on same day (fact), undercover agent in Sydney airport has blown his cover (fact).
If the handler in Sydney had any suspicion that he was being watched then he would simply let the package go through.
The defence team has asked repeatedly for forensic testing of the bag and contents. Just one fingerprint belonging to a baggage handler would have been conclusive proof.

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 08:05 PM

I had a friend whose boyfriend worked in Brisbane, and he used to regularly turn up with nice coats left behind on planes, and pockets full of miniature alcohol bottles - which were supposed to be dumped from overseas planes landing here as no customs tax had been paid.

Subject: RE: BS: Schapelle Corby
From: Leadfingers
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 08:10 PM

One more for the ton !