BS: More from George Galloway

Subject: BS: More from George Galloway
From: dianavan
Date: 30 May 05 - 02:48 AM

I hope the voice of George Galloway is heard by all Americans.

"Your president stole the presidency in Florida using his brother and his brother's close friends to cheat the people of the United States out of their freely elected president who was undoubtedly Al Gore. Even if you only counted the votes that actually made it through the hoops in order to be cast, the president was really Al Gore. And in Ohio, and I've read the stuff that Congressman Conyers is doing and I commend it, it's clear enough on the face of it that there was substantial fraud in that state and thus delivering the Electoral College vote for president Bush."

He has also commented on the fact that his testimony was "air-brushed" from the congressional record.

"...if you saw the testimony, you'll know why. Because what I managed to do, and I thank God for the breath that he gave me to do it, was blow away the smokescreen that these people are trying to throw up to divert attention from the very real crimes, high crimes and misdemeanors that they themselves are responsible for. And I've had, and I'm not exaggerating this, more than 12,000 emails from the United States."

I also think he should be very, very careful. These men are criminals and will stop at nothing to retain their power. Mr. Galloway is a very real threat to them and he's not afraid to wade right into the thick of it. We all know that people like Mr. Galloway do not live long in American politics.

Subject: RE: BS: More from George Galloway
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 30 May 05 - 03:59 AM

Career politicians have always been afraid of the truth, in their view the truth should not be what it actually is, but what they say it is. Anything that threatens their slice of the pie will be immediately removed from the public's eyes and ears. Light and air that's what government needs.
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: More from George Galloway
From: Alba
Date: 30 May 05 - 09:31 AM

The thing is Dianavan GG is not a part of "American Politics".
The Political Machine here in America brought him into their Arena.
The thing is, that by doing so, they shone the spotlight on an MP from another Country and provided him with the stage.
That is the benefit of not having to "live" for any time whatsoever in American Politics as there is no investment in that arena.
This can make a voice be heard above the rest and would seem so in GG's case.
The onlooker sometimes sees the most!
If no-one within American Politics is able, due to possible repercussions, to say it like it is, sometimes it takes a voice from the sidelines to do it.
GG was invited to speak and now they are getting to hear what he has to say.
This is one time perhaps that the result of accusation has given birth to the Accused clearing his name and making sure that he says exactly what he feels about those within American Politics that attempted to bring that name down into the gutter.
When you stir a pond....things rise to the surface.
No I don't think George Galloway has much to worry about from this side of the Pond's Political machine.
I do however feel that perhaps it would have been prudent to 'Know thine Enemy" on the part of those that launched the attack against George Galloway in the first place.
It will be interesting to see how this all pans out and who in the process gets taken down....for someone will have to indeed pay the Piper on this issue, that I am sure of, but I wouldn't be too quick to say it will be George Galloway.
A lot can be said in the meantime and now People are listening...so I am thinking to myself, let's wait and see. Most definetly to be continued though.
It certainly is like a window opening and letting some light into a dark Room and depending on which side of the Political Fence you happen to be on here in the US will influence how you see the Decor inside.


Jude

Subject: RE: BS: More from George Galloway
From: robomatic
Date: 30 May 05 - 10:03 AM

The thing is that the quote that opens this thread is opinion and not fact. I can toss a nickel down any American street and cover a couple of dozen people who would spout something equivalent, and at least an equal number of people who would spout the opposite.

The New York Times spent a considerable amount of money researching the Florida vote. They actually published the results if you will take the trouble to go out and read it. And, by the way, The New York Times is not considered to be a pro-Bush institution, in case you didn't know.

That all was two elections ago. There has been no valid challenge to the legality or authenticity of the last Presidential election. The preponderence of Republicans in Congress is consistent with the fact that the voice of the American people has been heard and is being represented.

What I think I can validly conclude from the first post on this thread is that the author of it is not happy with the voice of the American people. But the author has not troubled to find anything to reference that is related to fact. The author would rather quote an opinion of convenience.

Alles klar, Herr Kommissar

Subject: RE: BS: More from George Galloway
From: akenaton
Date: 30 May 05 - 08:33 PM

Robomatic... Politics has very little to do with so called "facts" and more to do with presentation and manipulation.

Occasionally someone like Mr Galloway appears, whos conviction and emotive quality are most unusual.

In the thread I started before George Galloway went to America, I urged sceptical Americans to listen to him speak and mentioned that he would make the hair stand on the back of their necks.

Whether Georges qualities of oratory and emotion are real or sham is basically of no importance, because he retains the power to affect most people who hear him, very deeply.

He makes people think!! He makes them want to be involved in the shaping of their future and that must be a good thing....Ake

Subject: RE: BS: More from George Galloway
From: Peace
Date: 31 May 05 - 08:06 PM

Good post, Ake. Very.

Subject: RE: BS: More from George Galloway
From: robomatic
Date: 31 May 05 - 08:42 PM

I had no problem with him appearing before Congress, and I enjoyed the performance, but what he said was such a mix of obfuscation and hot air that it left me feeling like I'd just watched a 'very special' episode of "Everybody Loves Raymond."

I wouldn't mind more fireworks like that in our deliberative bodies, to show that a fair number of its members actually have a pulse.

Subject: RE: BS: More from George Galloway
From: Peace
Date: 31 May 05 - 08:49 PM

We have a Senate like that here, Robomatic. They are appointed; we in turn are disappointed.