BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston

Subject: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: GUEST,Shakey
Date: 02 Aug 05 - 02:22 PM

Couldn't wait 'til tomorrow, anyway it gives people chance to predict and make a fool of themselves.

Shakey

PS I hope the thread title is ok, does it need UK in front of it? ;-)

England but close (win if Collingwood plays)

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: GUEST,Shakey
Date: 02 Aug 05 - 04:29 PM

Just discovered that it's er Tuesday today, well I've got a lot on. Anyway this thread is now very early.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: ad1943
Date: 02 Aug 05 - 09:18 PM

Do you chaps remember when Tests would run for 5 days and even perhaps be a draw?
Ah! Halcyon days indeed

Allen from Oz

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: muppett
Date: 03 Aug 05 - 11:43 AM

I reckon who ever bats first will win, Edgbaston has a reputation of high scoring test matches, so lets hope England get in First. Watched Michael Vaghan on Sunday seemed to be back to form, but will he be fit for the game, anyone the latest about him.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: Paul Burke
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 04:18 AM

I reckon that whoever gets their game together at the lineout will get more penalty corners, but will only convert them to handovers if they are on pole position in the peloton.

Watch out for the bunker behind the 17th.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: muppett
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 04:22 AM

Yep Paul I second that

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: John O'L
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 04:38 AM

Shakey, you're quick. I was going to revive the other thread, but I didn't want to do it too early. Glad to see you have no such qualms.

If England can hold their catches the're in with a chance.

Should be a good game. Looking forward to it.

Paul -
All Blacks v. Springboks this weekend. Looking forward to that too.
All Blacks by 20.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: Shakey
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 05:09 AM

I'm between contracts (start 1/9) so with the days running into one another I sort of lost track of time and got ahead of myself and I thought it would be easier to have a thread for each game.

Just read England unchanged, shame I wanted Collingwood in, still

McGrath is NOT playing.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: John O'L
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 05:26 AM

McGrath not playing? Well that makes it interesting.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: Hrothgar
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 05:51 AM

Replaced him with a Queenslander. You're still in trouble.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: The Shambles
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 06:43 AM

He will never make a rugby player.............

The choice to field - seems a bad one. 60 for no loss - seems to suggest it was?

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: Shakey
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 07:28 AM

112-1

How does Warne do that.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: Shakey
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 07:34 AM

132-1 at lunch

18 for Trescothic off the last Bret Lee over. Early days but a good start.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: The Shambles
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 08:43 AM

170-3

Pietersen at the crease.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: rhyzla
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 08:59 AM

Ok, I've got a ticket for sunday - what are the odds of me seeing any play??

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: The Shambles
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 09:09 AM

I have this feeling of duja vu - also.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: Alan Day
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 01:39 PM

Well a good start by England,over 400 and hit with aggresion.
Australia were saved by the rain but we will know in the morning.
I feel that the first test result was a relief to the Australians,I think they know they are against a better side than they have played against in years.I think the selectors have shown faith in a young team who would have learnt a lot from the first test.If England do win the next test then what an exciting series this will be.
Great stuff.
Al

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: The Shambles
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 02:00 PM

Perhaps this will be seen as wasted opportunity to pile on a really big score? Mind you to do it at over 5 runs per over was good but i suspect the Australians will be able to match this....

We will see tomorrow.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: GUEST,Hrothgar at work
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 04:49 PM

These Poms are lazy bastards - hitting all those boundaries instead of running!

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: John O'L
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 06:32 PM

I didn't see much of it, but it seems like it was a good first day's play. At the moment it seems that we have a match on our hands.

Vaughn & Bell could have done a bit more, and I can't believe Jones is still in the team, but still, a score to defend.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 06:56 PM

I had thought we may have been in for a bigger total but 407 isn't bad. Tommorrow morning should be interesting. If we do get a couple of early breakthroughs, I might even start getting optimistic.

Trouble wth the aussies though is that if one department falls short, a couple from the other often seem to make up for it...

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: ad1943
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 09:59 PM

At 5 runs per over..could this mean the death of one day cricket?

Allen from Oz

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: The Shambles
Date: 05 Aug 05 - 07:44 AM

I will certainly make the advanced buying of tickets for test matches on Sunday - a bit unadvisable........

I looked first thing if the wickets would be falling quickly - but only three have fallen by lunch. The cricket has not been quite as exciting or the scoring not so fast as yesterday but it has been just as interesting.

The England captain has had a good day as a fielder - including a fine direct-hit and run-out.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: Shakey
Date: 05 Aug 05 - 07:45 AM

118-3 at lunch, I'll settle for that but the ozzies don't look settled.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: A Wandering Minstrel
Date: 05 Aug 05 - 08:06 AM

Well this is much more balanced than the Lords test. Good for Giles. What better way to answer his critics than with Pontings wicket?

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: Shakey
Date: 05 Aug 05 - 12:20 PM

308 all out - 100 behind

Flintoff two wickets with last two balls.

Game on.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: The Shambles
Date: 05 Aug 05 - 12:27 PM

Well 99 to be exact.

All England's batsmen have to do to win - is to bat for two days............That should be easy...... We will see.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 05 Aug 05 - 02:34 PM

Overall, a very pleasing day for us and a very good position. I think I will be hopeful for a victory now.

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What do the aussie's think of Warne's batting today? I'd thought he might at least have tried to stick around a while and I know he can bat well but he seemed to me to be almost intent on commiting suicide.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: The Shambles
Date: 05 Aug 05 - 04:07 PM

Warne's batting was 'iffy' but he is after-all - in the team for his bowling. Which on the evidence of the delivery that got Strauss's wicket - is worrying as the pitch is only going to favour him more.

The only hope is if the match position does not allow Ponting to set the sort of close attacking fields that helped make Warne's bowling so effective at Lords.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: Alan Day
Date: 05 Aug 05 - 05:56 PM

Although I am hoping England win this one and two more,I cannot but marvel at Shane Warne`s bowling.His two dismisals of Strauss were breath taking,but overall his bowling is a pleasure to watch.He will be sadly missed when he quits test cricket and it is rumoured that this is his last tour,but what a craftsman.
This Ashes clash is so far living up to and surpassing all expectations.Out lads will fight to the finish win or lose.
What a combination of Peterson and Flintoff, at last they both clicked together and with a bit of experience they will be feared by teams Worldwide.I must applaud the selectors for taking a chance on Peterson they would have come in for a lot of stick if he had let them down.
Can we get another 250?
We shall know tommorow.
Al

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 05 Aug 05 - 06:30 PM

Agreed Alan, Warne is an outstanding bowler. I remember seeing him when he first played a test over here and was amazed and I was still amazed watching Strauss fall today. Mind you, having seen him spin the ball so often, I was probably even more amazed at his bouncer at Pieterson in the first test.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: ad1943
Date: 05 Aug 05 - 08:41 PM

Gentlemen

You are watching history with Warne. I have been watching Tests since the early 1950s and have never seen a bowler as good. I have seen Tyson, Statham, Roberts , Lillee, Thomson, Griffith, Garner, Snow, Lock, Benaud, Lindwall, Miller, Hall and countless others who were superb but this bloke is amazing. A good test this one

Enjoy

Allen from Oz

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: The Shambles
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 06:10 AM

31-4

All England's batsmen have to do to win - is to bat for two days............That should be easy...... We will see.

Not looking too likely at the moment.........

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 07:00 AM

Oh dear, Pieterson gone too. I'm not sure it was the right decision but 74-5 now.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 07:04 AM

And 75-6. Just as well we had 99 lead...

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: alanabit
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 07:13 AM

It's lovely when England get pasted in the Ashes. It is what is supposed to happen!

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 07:17 AM

Our time will come again alanabit.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: The Shambles
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 07:36 AM

95 - 6 at lunch.

Time for some predictions - Will England's second innings last until tea?

In the unlikely event that it does - what will be the score at tea?

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: John O'L
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 07:43 AM

Anything can happen. This series has been full of surprises and I'm expecting more twists & turns before it's decided.

Speaking of twists & turns, Flintoff's arm doesn't look good, does it.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 07:49 AM

We will go on to make 200 and then bowl them out for about 260.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: Tam the man
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 07:57 AM

I'm Scottish and I support the best team and that is AUSTRALIA/AND SCOTLAND.

TAM

Ps.
I do haope that England do well.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: John O'L
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 08:15 AM

Ahhhh!

Tony bloody Greig and Geoff bloody Boycott!

Give us a break!

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 08:35 AM

And a pleasant Saturday evening opens before us...just after 10 pm Australian est and the poms are 7fer...and these old ashes continue to enthrall. Good to see some fibre in the old firm, but one suspects valiant defeat looms again! And for diversion, we get to see the All Blecks and the 'Boks bash each other at rrugby...ah, this sportin' life!

O>O>O>oy oy oy
cheers, a fan

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: The Shambles
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 08:46 AM

At least someone brave enough to make a prediction.

England will struggle to make about 150 and fail to bowl Australia out.

It looks as if Flintoff (the best England bowler) will not be able to bowl and as there will be no time pressure - the Australians will be able to make the required runs very easily.

But I hope that I am proved completely wrong........

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: Tam the man
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 09:31 AM

Cricket and Amercan Football nust be one of the most boring 'sports' in the world.

I mean come on 5 days.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 09:35 AM

Not at that moment Tam, even for you I doubt!

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 10:00 AM

OK, 282 to win. A bit short of my prediction but we could still win.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: The Shambles
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 10:00 AM

Well 181 and they didn't make the tea interval.

It is just possible for England to still win - but with a batting performance like that one (a few notable exceptions)- would they deserve it?

Warne's final tally was 7 - I think. A bowler that is definitly over-the-hill......

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: The Shambles
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 10:08 AM

No test side has scored more than 280 to win on this ground. It is interesting that the bookies currently have Autralia as favourites to win.

They are not often wrong. We will see if they are this time.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 11:12 AM

5 minutes ago, I was thinking "it's no good, they are finding it too easy", now we get 2 Flintoff wickets!