BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: The Shambles
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 02:23 PM

There will be some Sunday play after all.....

It looks as if tomorrow Warne is going to have to win the game with his batting.

Any predictions for the outcome? I think my money must now be on a tie. I suspect the bookies would now be making England favourites.

It is probably more likely that they will get two wickets than Australia get their hundred or so runs - but who can tell with this contest?

Bring it on........

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: R. Padgett
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 02:24 PM

Freddie man of the match 8 wickets down for Aussies! at 6.30pm Sat

are we up for it!
Ray

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 02:37 PM

I'll stick with my last one for Australia - 260 all out.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: The Shambles
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 04:43 PM

That brave prediction has been noted.

Whatever the outcome tomorrow - it is clear that the rest of the series will be tightly contested. And if only England can get someone other than Flintoff, Pietersen and to a lesser extent Trescothick and Strauss - to stay at the crease and get some runs - England should even win.

Simon Jones at least stayed around long enough with Flintoff and it was only this parnership that gave Australia any sort of target to chase. It would only be honest to say that the rest have not really justified their selection as batsmen. With just a few more second innings runs - this game would have been over.

Despite this - there does seem to be a fighting team spirit and everyone seems to know what to do in the field - so perhaps the team should be left as it is? Not that there appears to be too many altenatives....

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: RobbieWilson
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 06:07 PM

What a great, well balanced test this has been and it could still go either way. Just shows what a difference having McGrath in the team makes.

Perhaps in order to keep the series interesting England should be allowed at the start of each match to pick a member of the Australian squad who would be ineligible to play.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 07:37 PM

Looks like it did miss when MC went down...

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I think I'd leave the team as it is. The minimum they will have achieved is to give the aussies a big scare and as you note they all seem to be pulling together as a team in the field. Perhaps with a bit more confidence the bating will improve.

I think this one has offered us the best chance with McGrath out of action and possibly Ponting's strange (to me) decision on winning the toss but I do think we should be able to make a game of all these tests.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: John O'L
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 08:35 PM

I don't think Oz can win this match now, but I didn't think the Springboks could beat the All Blacks either.

Whatever happens, the series is alive. Jon, if you're picking a team for next test I'd lose G. Jones if I were you.
Oh yeah, and Flintoff too. Lose Flintoff eh?

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 06 Aug 05 - 09:00 PM

You may have a point there John, I would agree that he is the most suspect. Now I know a keeper I really would like but I don't think you would part with him...

Lose Flintoff - you have (and are) to be joking. Funny thing with him though is when I first saw him, I think I would have lost him... I thought he was just going to be what you sometimes see over here branded as the next Botham but wasn't going to come to much.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 04:21 AM

Watching Freddie, I'm nervous that we might lose him through that shoulder thing. Hope our physio's up to the challenge and has him fully fit before round 3.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: Rasener
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 04:52 AM

Why are you all so obssed with this silly game called cricket.

Where supposed men dress in white and rub their balls so hard you think they would do some harm.
They stand around in the field all day doing nothing, unless you are the bowler.
They sit in the pavilion all day if they are not batting.

Having said all that - come on ENGLAND
Stuff it up them big headed Aussies.
Get it over quickly so I can take my family out and save a great big scene.
Freedie is world class and I bet the Aussies hate that.

10 minutes to go. Can't wait. LOL

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: The Shambles
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 06:06 AM

Only 62 runs to win..........

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: RobbieWilson
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 06:32 AM

30 to win
13 off the last over
last man in. What a game

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: Rasener
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 06:33 AM

I think I have put the mockers on England

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: RobbieWilson
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 06:47 AM

20 to win, bloody hell!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: The Shambles
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 06:48 AM

20 to win

A prediction.

Its not going to be a drawn game.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 06:53 AM

LOL. This is too tense.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: RobbieWilson
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 06:56 AM

perfect tense

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: RobbieWilson
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 06:57 AM

bloody adverts, fuck off

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: RobbieWilson
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 07:00 AM

dropped catch, 8 needed

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: gnu
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 07:06 AM

The suspense is tense. I am glues to the PC screen for your next post.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: RobbieWilson
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 07:07 AM

5 needed

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: gnu
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 07:08 AM

Jeepers!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: RobbieWilson
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 07:10 AM

4 needed Lee hit on the hand at 90 mph dropped his bat and ran without it. Why not come into chat

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 07:12 AM

WOW!!!!!

What a game.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: Tam the man
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 07:12 AM

England won aye Just!

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: The Shambles
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 07:13 AM

Who predicted a 3 run victory?

Not much wrong with the England wicket keeper...

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 07:18 AM

G'day lads,

Well, that's nice ... we still have an interesting Test series ahead.

Congratulations!

Regards,

Bob

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: The Shambles
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 07:18 AM

Warne didn't do too bad with 42 but top scorer was Lee with 43. All credit to the tail-enders.

This result does make the series more intersting.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: RobbieWilson
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 07:19 AM

2 run victory

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: John O'L
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 07:19 AM

Jones managed to glove one. He would have been a dead man if he'd let that one go through.

The series is alive. Not a convincing win by anyone's standards but it's one all and that's good.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: The Shambles
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 07:24 AM

2 run victory

I stand corrected.

But I would have settled for even one run - as long as England won.

Not very good at this prediction lark are we?

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: R. Padgett
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 07:32 AM

I have been on the end of my seat since 10am and it didnt get underway until 1030am

Freddie surely man of the match just got £2000 and magnum of Champagne !!

Warne played brilliantly too

Full house at Edgbaston, yesterday overspill to filed and Big TV screen, brill spectators and carnival dressing upo atmosphere right spirt

Next Test match at Old Trafford (3rd in series, big momentum to next game for England ( 1 each so far)

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 07:34 AM

deep deep joy!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: Tam the man
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 07:36 AM

COME ON AUSSIE from a Scotsman

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: GUEST,Taffy
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 07:54 AM

COME ON ENGLAND AND WALES from a Welshman. You all forget that it's not the English Cricket Club.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: Leadfingers
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 08:08 AM

So England won by two runs !!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: RobbieWilson
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 08:20 AM

England won by 2 runs on a wrong decision. The hand hit was not on bat that is not out.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 08:26 AM

Ah well it wasn't a bad wrong decision and there had been wrong decisions go the other way... Who'd be an upmpire?

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: John O'L
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 08:30 AM

Robbie, Robbie, Robbie...

Check the scoreboard. It says he was out.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: Tam the man
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 08:52 AM

When has the Englsih supported Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Outboasting
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 09:33 AM

Unless there has been a rule change, a hit on the glove (if the hand is one the bat handle) is out.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: The Shambles
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 09:35 AM

Perhaps a word for the umpires (it is a good job they are not Scotch)?

Seeing their decisions subject to slo-mo and all the other gadgets and gizmos - the surprising thing is not that that they may sometimes get it wrong (in the spit seconds they have) but how often they are shown to be right.

There are of course some good and not so good decisions but they do tend to cancel each other out.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: Tam the man
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 09:36 AM

May I remind you Shambles the word Scotch is whisky, the people from Scotland are called SCOTS

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: GUEST,Tam the Scotchman
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 09:52 AM

Scotch is an adjective and can be applied to anything. It just so happens that some tight arsed Scotch Presbyterians don't like to be compared to whisky. Read your Burns Tam the man and you'll find there are Scotch lawyers as well as Scotchmen ... lighten up.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: Flash Company
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 10:49 AM

Adverts are bad enough, but Channel 4 Racing yesterday? Come on!!!
I had to be out this morning, and just got back in time to see the final wicket. I'm not sure my heart would have stood the strain of watching it all.
Roll on Old Trafford.(Rain forecast for the Manchester area for Thursday!)
FC

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 01:25 PM

I get annoyed by the racing too but I can remember at least one occasion where they did manage to delay going over because of the state of the game. If they have to do it, wish they did it the other way round and make those with the satelite equipment (for Film 4?) watch the horse racing. I gather the cricket goes elsewhere next year which I think, even alowing for horse racing and ads, is a bit of a shame as I have liked thier coverage.

Rain at Old Trafford eh? My bet with myself for the series was 3-1 to Australia with 1 draw. Perhaps that one will be the draw then...

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: RobbieWilson
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 01:49 PM

The ball hit the glove but the hand was not on the bat. Not out would have been the correct decision

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: Skipper Jack
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 02:14 PM

Well who you do you, fellow mudcatters, think should be the man of the match? Both Warne and Flintoff are worthy contenders. But I shall go with Flintoof on the account of his batting as well.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 02:25 PM

Well as Flintoff got it, I'll go for him.

Subject: RE: BS: Ashes 05 Edgbaston
From: The Shambles
Date: 07 Aug 05 - 02:44 PM

May I remind you Shambles the word Scotch is whisky, the people from Scotland are called SCOTS

You may indeed remind me but perhaps I can remind you that this is a thread about cricket and England even had a Scotch captain once.

As a resident in Scotland for twelve years I do not need reminding that (some) folk in Scotland do not like to be referred to as Scotch.*Smiles*

And I have (in the earlier thread) made the point that many English people do indeed support the sporting endeavours of the Scotch and Welsh.


I think that had Australia won - Warnes contribution to that victory would have made him man of the match. As England won - it was Flintoff's individual contribution to that victory that deserves to makes him the man of the match. Without his 73 and those sixes - there would have been no match.

Nice to see him console Bret Lee at the end. That probably sealed it