BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: GUEST,Ron Davies
Date: 27 Aug 05 - 06:06 PM

According to Disney, Mortimer was Minnie Mouse's uncle, "retconned"---- (how's that for a word?--contraction of retroactive continuity)---- in 1936.

Mortimer Mouse was also, as you're probably aware, Disney's name for Mickey, before his wife suggested Mickey was a better choice.

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: Azizi
Date: 27 Aug 05 - 05:39 PM

Severn,

I'm just reading this thread, and want to tell you how much I liked your witty 25 Aug 05 - 11:22 PM post.

I have to admit that it took me two reads to get "srong to the Finnish" , but the play on words that I have to give you the most props for are:

"Now, by the time they'd actually cooked your spinach, it would likely be charred anyway, but the Collard Folks would probably still like it!

(My apologies to the Green Collard Workers....}"

"Collard folks"- LOL!!



Azizi

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: Rapparee
Date: 27 Aug 05 - 04:13 PM

Mortimer Mouse was Mickey's brother, according to Berke Breathed's Outland.

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: GUEST,Ron Davies
Date: 27 Aug 05 - 03:36 PM

Mortimer Mouse needed a makeover and a name change.

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: GUEST,Veronica Rutledge
Date: 27 Aug 05 - 01:37 PM

You are clueless as usual, Cluin. Your offensive remark about Veronica Lodge is nothing more than envious sniping at your betters, in my opinion. I have rather modelled myself after Veronica, my namesake as it were, although she is a brunette and I am not. (I have hair the colour of dark honey, which suits my complexion really quite well.) Veronica has style and she knows how to use it. Betty is a nice girl, but really quite ordinary. She's the kind who ends up working behind a counter, marrying some stupid yobbo who drinks too much, and turning into a fat frump with curlers in her hair in some pathetic walk-up in East London filled with screaming kids.

Veronica Lodge, however, is the type who dates gorgeous men from all over the world, travels to places like Monaco and St Tropez, and gets her picture on the front of famous magazines. My type, in other words. I have studied these things quite carefully, using the example of my Aunt Penelope as my inspiration, and I am now approaching what Aunt Penelope terms the "dangerous age". I intend, like Veronica in the Archie comics, to have adventures, go interesting places, and see interesting people who are fun and extremely rich. The cream does rise to the top, you know.

As for that silly Archie Andrews, I imagine you are right. He's soooo pedestrian. Veronica would never surrender her virtue to a boy like him. Not a chance. Sad to say, there simply ARE no desirable boys in that comic. Not one. Reggie thinks he's desirable, but he's wrong. Archie thinks so too...and he is DEAD wrong! LOL! Even Jughead is cooler than Archie, in my opinion.

* Veronica

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 27 Aug 05 - 11:56 AM

Ronnie Wood and Blondie!
G..

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: Peace
Date: 27 Aug 05 - 01:15 AM

LOL

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: Cluin
Date: 27 Aug 05 - 12:51 AM

Contrary to popular belief, Archie Andrews never made it.

If he would have just quit chasing that stuck-up bitch Veronica, Betty would have let him get his end away long ago.

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Aug 05 - 12:43 AM

Spunky and Tadpole?

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: Peace
Date: 27 Aug 05 - 12:09 AM

Mickey the Rat

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 09:13 PM

Did 8th Man smoke Mary Jane Brand cigaretes?

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: GUEST,Andy the Accountant
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 06:50 PM

So after the raging success of "Bob the Builder" some genius studio execs decided to pilot some other shows of an alliterative occupational nature. There was me, Andy the Accountant, and Carl the Chemist, Randy the Radiologist and lots of others. We all went over like lead balloons. The only one that came close to flying was Milton the Mechanic, but the studio couldn't get him to stop calling hard-to-reach sparkplugs "filthy fuckin' whores" and that just wouldn't do with a mostly preschool audience.

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: SharonA
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 02:56 PM

Thanks for the sites, MMario! I'd forgotten about Tobor's energy cigarettes. Can you imagine him trying to re-energize nowadays? Lots of scenes of him excusing himself to go outside the office, a restaurant, etc., for a smoke -- hmmm, doesn't exactly move the plot along. Besides, the villains would always know where to find him -- they'd just zap all the groups of smokers on the sidewalks and parking lots till they got 'im (while anti-smoking lobbyists cheered them along). Nah, I guess ol' Tobor wouldn't "make it" in TV these days.

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: bobad
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 09:56 AM

If you liked Mr.Wong check out Jesus and his brothers.

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: bobad
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 09:55 AM

Mr.Wong - he never made the big time but you can catch his show here

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: MMario
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 09:31 AM

This brazilian site has a picture of 8th Man smoking his "special cigarette" to renew his energy....

http://www.mofolandia.com.br/index_anime.htm

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: MMario
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 09:21 AM

8THman site

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: Rapparee
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 09:15 AM

The shortest running cartoon series I know of starred Larry Lynx and his sidekick, Vic Vole. You might remember the first and only show, where they got lost in the mountains and Larry got so very, very, hungry....

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: Severn
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 09:09 AM

Licky Louse actually got all his best lines from the ancient Chinese philosopher, Lao Tsze. A case of Poetic Lice-Sense, I guess!

And as for Conway Coon, your brother Ty atually had a running supporting role on Deputy Dawg for a few years, so what are you griping about?!?! Ty, as I remember, was in serious consideration in the '70s as running mate in the Muskie Campaign. Hey, you could be like a California Raisin, and have no Bran Recognition at whatsoever!

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: Severn
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 07:04 AM

Wasn't Baron Barracuda a puppet dangled from on high in the absolutely horrible low-low-budget "Diver Dan", where a guy in a deep sea diver's mask walked around against a blue backdrop talking to wooden fish on strings? Production values were almost non-existant in this one. (Uh oh! Now all the divers out there will bring up the divers-ity question!). Anyway, I always wondered what a nice guy like Dan was doing in a dive like that in the first place!

I'd think that maybe the Puppets Of Yesterday's Saturdays could "stand having a few threads of their own" (so to speak). Someone should definately take a hand in this.

And what about live-action animals, like Lancelot Link?

.....Ahhhh, but they're NOT cartoons!

As for "The Boys From The Bush", Giok, Saturday morning half-hour animated Op-Ed Toons could be the next frontier. Work on it!

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 04:04 AM

Old UK TV Bits

What about the Boy's from the Bush remember them?
There was Pappy George 'Gulf' Bush and the kids George 'What National Guard' Junior, and Jeb 'Where the fuck is Florida' Bush. I wonder whatever happened to them, they were really funny weren't they?
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: SharonA
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 02:59 AM

GUEST Mrr(zy?):

I remember the 8th Man. Also I remember that his name was spelled "TOBOR" (because it was "robot" spelled backward). No one was supposed to know that Mr. Tobor was a robot, so this clever cover-up was devised; I remember being surprised that the inventor of such a mechanical marvel wasn't smart enough to come up with a better ruse.

I remember that Tobor used to change from his disguise-as-a-human to his costume-with-number-8-on-chest in an odd way: a vertical line would appear down the center of his body and then the two sections of his body would retract somehow, like a Star Trek door opening up, revealing the different costume behind the "panels" of the "door". I recall that the sound effect for this was similar to an ocarina going halfway up a major scale (and the change back to the Mr. Tobor disguise was accompanied by the ocarina going back down that half-scale). Or was it down and then back up? Either way, it was cheesy.

I found the lyrics to his theme song:

There's a prehistoric monster who came from outer space,
Created by the Martians to destroy the human race.
The F.B.I. is helpless. It's 20 stories tall.
What can we do?
Who can we call?

Call TOBOR, The 8th Man
Call TOBOR, The 8th Man
Faster than a rocket, quicker than a jet,
He's the mighty robot, he's the one to get.
Call TOBOR, The 8th Man
Quick, call TOBOR, the mightiest robot of them all.

Seems that Ralph Bakshi worked on the animation for the show's title sequence, according to this site: http://www.alphalink.com.au/~roglen/tobor.htm (the site includes a link to listen to the song)

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: dianavan
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 02:38 AM

Baron Barracuda ?????

A vague memory.

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: Peace
Date: 26 Aug 05 - 12:51 AM

"Wasn't that a Hill Street Blues episode, with Vic Hitler, the narcoleptic comic?"

Cluin, you might be right. But for some reason I have Deitrich in the pictue. But, my memory ain't what it used to be and never was (with thanks to Will Rogers).

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: Severn
Date: 25 Aug 05 - 11:22 PM

Hey, Sailor!

You may have been strong to the Finnish, Popeye, but the Swedish preferred your rival! However, they DO prefer your FRIED chicken, (even if they stole the rights to "Chicken Pot-Pie" from you!)

And if you were REALLY any good, You'd have a successful chain of SPINACH restaurants. You're just lucky those N'awlins folks made some money off your dance craze years ago and still have a soft spot in their hearts and wallets for you. Not enough to include ANY spinach (or yams, for that matter) on the menu, of course! Now, by the time they'd actually cooked your spinach, it would likely be charred anyway, but the Collard Folks would probably still like it!

(My apologies to the Green Collard Workers. Fuzzy Zoeller made me tell that joke!)

...And how many poor kids got deformed forearms from eating that vile green stuff? And blue toes? What kind of steroids did they lace that s**t with anyway?!?!

What's more, if those folks could have read the funnies in the Chinese papers, They's know that "General Tso's Chicken" was far more hilarious than you ever were, and HE'D have the franchise.

SO THERE!

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: GUEST,Brutus
Date: 25 Aug 05 - 10:12 PM

Get over and let me puch ya right in the eye ya sissy sailor!

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: GUEST,Popeye
Date: 25 Aug 05 - 10:03 PM

I yam disgustipated! Ralphy Rabbit is tellin' lies about how I stole the thunder from Pie-Eye the Sailor Man. I yam innocent! Pie-Eye was an okay guy, but he had some weaknesses. I yam not the type to gossip, so I ain't sayin' what they was, but I did not steal nothin' from him. If you was in reach, Ralphy, your head would be achin' worse, lemme tell ya! What nerve! I yam infuriorated!

Popeye the (real) Sailor Man

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: GUEST,Ralphy Rabbit
Date: 25 Aug 05 - 09:44 PM

Oh, my aching head....

I am just in tears here over all this. So much promise, so many broken dreams...

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: Severn
Date: 25 Aug 05 - 09:35 PM

Anyone remember the League of Animal Super Heros?:

Public Serpent

Trouble Bruin

The Lone Shark

Wonder Whooo, (The Telepathic Owl)

and a couple of nice Catholic girls, MagnifiCat! & The Flying Buttress-Nanny Goat Of Steel!("Nice butt, girl!")

....to go with that overpowering SheSkunk, Maid Scents-Defender Of Law 'n' Odor

"Take THAT!, Insti-Gator!!!!"....Ahhh yes! Those were the days!


.....And who could ever forget the short-lived attempt at a male action hero to cross over to the Saturday Morning Little Girl Market, none other than.....

RAMBO BRITE!!!!

"I'LL teach you to mess with The Color Folk, Hugh Neutral! EAT HOT SPECTRUM, INFIDEL!!!"

"You'll never put any MORE kids to sleep, Lord Kumbaya!"


(Lasted about two weeks.....)


At one time...."All part of this nutritious breakfast!" And far more absorbing than Sponge Bob.

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: number 6
Date: 25 Aug 05 - 09:28 PM

"Bill and Ben... Bill and Ben...
      Bill and Ben, Bill and Ben, Flowerpot Men!"

That's the best I can come up with Bob.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: Rapparee
Date: 25 Aug 05 - 09:20 PM

Winky Dink, and you
Winky Dink, and me
We are pals through fair and stormy weather.
Presto-chango, that's a thing of the past
Winko, winko works twice as fast....


Ah, ou sont les chansons d'antan?

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: Bob the Postman
Date: 25 Aug 05 - 08:38 PM

Please, someone, post the words and chords for the Bill And Ben theme song.

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 25 Aug 05 - 08:29 PM

Some of the Cartoon characters sitting around the Old Tunes Retirement Home are sadder than the ones that never made it. What about the King of Saturday Morning Cartoons? The mouse who made Micky look like a hairdresser? The one who made "Here I come to save the day!" a common figure of speech in the 50s and 60s? The James Bond of rodents who nailed Krakatoa Katy after he lassoed the volcano shut with a cable from the Golden gate Bridge? Mighty Mouse!! What the hell happened? They made a feature film of Inspector Gadget and left Mighty Mouse to fade into a dim memory?! Where's the justice in that? Don't we need him more than ever, really? Jeez.

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: Charmion
Date: 25 Aug 05 - 05:27 PM

Roger Ramjet, he's our man, the hero of our nation,
The only thing that's wrong with him is mental retardation!

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: Cluin
Date: 25 Aug 05 - 05:12 PM

Andy Panda ended up working as a fluffer for the Thundercats.

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: Charmion
Date: 25 Aug 05 - 04:49 PM

I've heard that Oswald the Rabbit ended up sipping Aqua Velva under a bridge, after YOU KNOW WHO squeezed him out of Unca Walt's affections.

And whatever happened to Andy Panda, and Cecil the Seasick Sea Serpent and his little pal Beanie? (Practically the very first thing I remember seeing on television, circa 1960.)

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: GUEST,Mrr
Date: 25 Aug 05 - 04:48 PM

Anybody remember Tobar the 8th man? (there's a prehistoric monster that's come from outer space / it's (something something something) to destroy the human race / the FBI is helpless, it's 20 stories tall! Whom shall we get whom shall we call? Call Tobar, the 8th man - faster than a rocket, swifter than a jet, he's the mighty Tobar, he's the one to get! Call Tobar...) - he had a big 8 on his shirt. This is all I remember about him, other than this had to be before 1966 when we went to Africa, and I thought it was "the ape man" until I noticed the 8.

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: wildlone
Date: 25 Aug 05 - 01:36 PM

The Bumblies song-
Bumbly, Bumbly what do you say?
Let's sing a Bumbly tune.
Bumbly, Bumbly flying away
And shooting over the moon.
I'm Bumbly number one.
I'm Bumbly two, that's me.
I'm the one that's not very bright -
I'm Bumbly number three

The Bumblies

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: Cool Beans
Date: 25 Aug 05 - 12:21 PM

I remember Okey Doaks, and Princess Pomona, his girlfriend.
But what of Alice the Malice and Craig the Plague, a coupla Dennis the Menace comic book knockoffs?
Peter Potamus.
Wuff the Prairie Dog.

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: EBarnacle
Date: 25 Aug 05 - 10:26 AM

What, no one recalls Okie Doaks, from the court of King Korny?

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: number 6
Date: 25 Aug 05 - 10:09 AM

Where they like Bill and Ben the Flower Pot Men?

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: GUEST, Topsie
Date: 25 Aug 05 - 09:12 AM

and not exactly cartoons, but do you remember the Bumblies?

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: Rapparee
Date: 25 Aug 05 - 08:46 AM

And don't forget the re-spelling of Elmer Fudd's last name.

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: gnu
Date: 25 Aug 05 - 08:43 AM

It was originally "Bugger the Bunny", but, with a little PR makeover, it eventually became successful.

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: Rapparee
Date: 25 Aug 05 - 08:36 AM

Winky Dink was on TV during the mid-1950s. I wonder what ever happened to him? Anybody know?

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: Cluin
Date: 25 Aug 05 - 04:13 AM

Wasn't that a Hill Street Blues episode, with Vic Hitler, the narcoleptic comic?

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: Peace
Date: 25 Aug 05 - 12:45 AM

Reminds me of an episode of "Barney Miller" in which a guy was arrested and taken to the station. Deitrich asked him why he was so sad. He said he was sad because no one ever laughed at his jokes. Deitrich asked him his name. The comedian replied, "David Hitler."

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: number 6
Date: 25 Aug 05 - 12:31 AM

Does anyone remember what song Bert the Turtle sang??

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: frogprince
Date: 24 Aug 05 - 11:14 PM

Then there was Winky the one-eyed wonder lizard...

Subject: RE: BS: Cartoon Characters who didn't make it.
From: GUEST,Mr Gator
Date: 24 Aug 05 - 10:34 PM

I had a small comic strip going in the 50's and early 60's. It was cute, but it's gone now. I basically lost out to Walt Kelly's Albert Alligator. I was cuter.