Happy! - Oct 1 (Joe Heaney)

Subject: Happy! - Oct 1 (Joe Heaney)
From: Abby Sale
Date: 01 Oct 05 - 10:17 AM


Happy Birthday!

Joe Heaney

classic sean nós ("old style" Irish ballad) singer, teacher, etc.,

born 10/1/1919
in Carrah, County Galway
(d.May 1, 1984 in Seattle, Wash)

[Ron Olesko's WFDU FM's "The Sunday Session & Traditions", archived (but not available just now) at Mudcat Café,
Joe Heaney Tribute]

Also:
10/1: Happy International Music Day!
Initiated for UNESCO in 1975 by Lord Yehudi Menuhin (a pretty good jazz & folk fiddler)

Copyright © 2005, Abby Sale - all rights reserved
What are Happy's all about? See Clicky

Subject: RE: Happy! - Oct 1 (Joe Heaney)
From: Jim McLean
Date: 01 Oct 05 - 01:27 PM

A good old friend of mine, we shared a room together in the sixties, in London. There was Nigel Denver, Jacky O'Connor, Joe and myself. He once accused Jackie of using up the money in the gas meter by sitting too close to the gas fire!

Subject: RE: Happy! - Oct 1 (Joe Heaney)
From: Folkiedave
Date: 01 Oct 05 - 02:03 PM

One of the finest singers I ever heard. Can I recommend:

http://www.mustrad.org.uk/articles/heaney1.htm

for those who wish to know more about the man.

Best regards,

Dave

Subject: RE: Happy! - Oct 1 (Joe Heaney)
From: Folkiedave
Date: 01 Oct 05 - 02:05 PM

And I do believe it is Carna and not Carrah.

Dave

Subject: RE: Happy! - Oct 1 (Joe Heaney)
From: Abby Sale
Date: 01 Oct 05 - 05:20 PM

Dave - thanks for the correction. Good interview, too.

Jim - good story. I think these stories keep the people real. BTW, you wouldn't happen to know exactly when in March of 1814 The Sutherland Clearances began, (and/or ended) would you?

Subject: RE: Happy! - Oct 1 (Joe Heaney)
From: Jim McLean
Date: 01 Oct 05 - 05:32 PM

Hi Abbey,
I wrote a series of Clearance songs in the mid sixties and 'The Shores of Sutherland' song is dated 1811. I got a lot of background from a book called 'Gloomy Memories' written by Donald (?) Mcleod who had gone to Canada. His book was in respose to Harriet Beecher Stowe's book called 'Sunny Memories' of her visit to Scotland. She was sent to Scotland by an irate an curious American Press who saw these destitute highlanders turning up on their shores. She was considered a sympathetic person to investigate their plight as the writer of Uncle Tom's cabin. She stayed with the Duchess of Sutherland..'nuff said!

Subject: RE: Happy! - Oct 1 (Joe Heaney)
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 01 Oct 05 - 05:43 PM

I can't think of any particular musical connection, but happy birthday to President Jimmy Carter, too.

~ Becky in Tucson

Subject: RE: Happy! - Oct 1 (Joe Heaney)
From: Jim McLean
Date: 02 Oct 05 - 05:54 AM

The Peanut Vendor?

Subject: RE: Happy! - Oct 1 (Joe Heaney)
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 02 Oct 05 - 04:26 PM

Yeah, I was trying to think of a peanut song (but not trying very hard). :-)

~ Becky

Subject: RE: Happy! - Oct 1 (Joe Heaney)
From: johnross
Date: 02 Oct 05 - 06:54 PM

Ooohh...what a great opening for this story about Joe Heaney.

Late in his life, while he was living in Seattle, Joe heard folklorist Jens Lund's young daughter singing the peanut song. You know, the one that begins, "Found a peanut, found a peanut...".

A few weeks later, he was recording some songs for somebody at the U of Washington Ethnomusicology Program. After a bunch of things in Gaelic, he said "Now this is a song that I learned from a young girl called Katie Lund...[sings in full Irish brouge]Found a peanut, found a peanut..."

Jens said that when he heard the tape, he fell out of his chair laughing.

Subject: RE: Happy! - Oct 1 (Joe Heaney)
From: Brían
Date: 02 Oct 05 - 09:30 PM

Fuair mé pis talún
Fuair mé pis talún
Fuair mé pis talún go díreach anois

"Fuair mé an t-amhrán ó pháiste beag darbh ainm Katie Lund..."

Yeah, you're probably thinking correctly. I have no life.

Brían

Subject: RE: Happy! - Oct 1 (Joe Heaney)
From: Brían
Date: 03 Oct 05 - 01:18 PM

Well, as if to confirm my self-appraisal

Fuair mé ceann eile
Fuair mé ceann eile
Fuair mé ceann eile
Go díreach anois
Go díreach anois
Fuair mé ceann eile
Fuair mé ceann eile
Go díreach anois

Agus ansin d'ithim é(And as Vonnegut said, "etc. and so on")

B

Subject: RE: Happy! - Oct 1 (Joe Heaney)
From: johnross
Date: 03 Oct 05 - 01:46 PM

Just in case this inpired nonsense enters the oral tradition: I have forgotten Jens Lund's daughter's name. It may or may not be Katie, but I grabbed that name out of the depths of my fuzzy memory when I typed the story upthread. Other than that, the details of the story are true.

Subject: RE: Happy! - Oct 1 (Joe Heaney)
From: Brían
Date: 03 Oct 05 - 05:05 PM

Too late. It has been catapulted into the vortex of the collective consciousness of the folk process. Get over it. Feel better now?

Joe was a great singer and gentleman who touched and inspired so many that the contagion affected even a simple fool like me.

To his memory, may we continue to see the likes of him in the corners of pubs and kitchens on either side of the Pond.

Brían

Subject: RE: Happy! - Oct 1 (Joe Heaney)
From: Jim McLean
Date: 03 Oct 05 - 05:34 PM

I remember going to O'Donoughues (can't spell at this time of night) to meet Ronnie Drew (I was the Dubliner's first roadie in 1967). It turned out Joe was there on a visit from America .. the first time I'd seen him in about ten years. No one would take my money for drinks as Joe had told Mary not to accept my money .. he had covered it. I had helped him in London years before. A real gentleman with a long memory.

Subject: RE: Happy! - Oct 1 (Joe Heaney)
From: Brían
Date: 05 Oct 05 - 10:15 AM

Can someone tell me more about Ron Olesko's WFDU FM's "The Sunday Session & Traditions and how to access it. There appears to be a dead clicky in the middle of the thread and it's taking me on the road to nowhere.

Brían

Subject: RE: Happy! - Oct 1 (Joe Heaney)
From: Jim McLean
Date: 05 Oct 05 - 01:11 PM

I have just discovered some old negatives of pictures taken by my wife, Alison Chapman McLean, which were taken in the Singer's Club in 1962/3 I think. They feature Joe, McColl, Peggy Seeger, Bert Lloyd, Enoch Kent, The Havarim, Louis Killin, Bobby Davenport and Bruce Dunnet who ran the club. I'll have to scan the negs and get some good prints but will post them somewhere.

Subject: RE: Happy! - Oct 1 (Joe Heaney)
From: Abby Sale
Date: 05 Oct 05 - 03:24 PM

Brian - that's some of the thousands of links that have to be discovered and rewritten after The Fall last month. I'm sure that given enough patience they will be.

Subject: RE: Happy! - Oct 1 (Joe Heaney)
From: Brían
Date: 05 Oct 05 - 10:28 PM

thanks, Abby. Patience I have. I'm just worried I'm not technically advanced enough sometimes.

Brían

Subject: RE: Happy! - Oct 1 (Joe Heaney)
From: Brían
Date: 05 Oct 05 - 10:31 PM

A PM I just received tells me that this blicky will will take us ti WFDU.

Brían

Subject: RE: Happy! - Oct 1 (Joe Heaney)
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 10:22 AM

Hi, I just noticed this thread.   Mudcat has had some technical issues and they have not been able to relaunch the radio archives. Unfortunately, WFDU's site does not have the space required to store archives either. I have rebroadcast the show a couple of times since the orignal broadcast, and while I have no plans at the moment, if I do another re-broadcast in the future I will be sure to make a note hear on Mudcat.

Thank you for the interest in the program.   It was a memorable experience for me as I was able to learn and share so much about Joe Heaney.

Subject: RE: Happy! - Oct 1 (Joe Heaney)
From: Brían
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 10:38 AM

Thanks, Ron. Is is possible to purchase audio tapes of the broadcast through WFDU? If so, how would we reference it and where would we send the query?

Brían

Subject: RE: Happy! - Oct 1 (Joe Heaney)
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 10:54 AM

Sorry Brian, because of copyright restrictions on the music contained in the program, we are unable to offer tapes of the broadcast.

Subject: RE: Happy! - Oct 1 (Joe Heaney)
From: Brían
Date: 06 Oct 05 - 11:28 AM

I was concerned about that very fact. Thank you for the prompt reply.

Brían