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BS: Prince Harry

artbrooks 04 Mar 08 - 02:47 PM
Peace 04 Mar 08 - 01:59 PM
GUEST,Busby on 42nd Street 04 Mar 08 - 01:54 PM
GUEST,Busby on 42nd Street 04 Mar 08 - 01:31 PM
Teribus 04 Mar 08 - 11:47 AM
GUEST,Busby on 42nd Street 04 Mar 08 - 06:57 AM
Teribus 04 Mar 08 - 01:55 AM
artbrooks 03 Mar 08 - 06:40 PM
Teribus 03 Mar 08 - 06:33 PM
GUEST,Busby on 42nd Street. 03 Mar 08 - 02:01 PM
Wesley S 03 Mar 08 - 01:45 PM
Teribus 03 Mar 08 - 01:41 PM
goatfell 03 Mar 08 - 12:08 PM
GUEST,PMB 03 Mar 08 - 11:27 AM
Wesley S 03 Mar 08 - 11:15 AM
Big Mick 03 Mar 08 - 10:23 AM
Backwoodsman 03 Mar 08 - 10:04 AM
Teribus 03 Mar 08 - 01:20 AM
Backwoodsman 03 Mar 08 - 12:09 AM
TRUBRIT 02 Mar 08 - 10:10 PM
Teribus 02 Mar 08 - 10:06 AM
Scooby Doo 02 Mar 08 - 07:37 AM
goatfell 01 Mar 08 - 10:46 AM
Raedwulf 29 Feb 08 - 06:49 PM
Wesley S 29 Feb 08 - 04:09 PM
Scooby Doo 29 Feb 08 - 04:06 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: artbrooks
Date: 04 Mar 08 - 02:47 PM

Last time I looked, effective did not mean the same thing as right. You asked him for information, totally irrelevant to the topic of this thread, so don't bitch when he supplies it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Means to Shorten a War !
From: Peace
Date: 04 Mar 08 - 01:59 PM

I know Teribus and think that maybe the term 'facetious' should enter this thread. There is NO way he'd advocate that.


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Subject: BS: Means to Shorten a War !
From: GUEST,Busby on 42nd Street
Date: 04 Mar 08 - 01:54 PM

Sadly my generation has seen more of the horrors of war due to the age of live television.

No one can find justice or reason for wholesale murder on such a grant scale.

Well it appears one member of this forum has the answer !

When I posed the question on another thread regarding the use and justifaction of internment camps in South Africa during the Boer war, this was the reply I received.

"Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: Teribus
Date: 04 Mar 08 - 11:47 AM


The Boer Kommandos were being supplied and kept "in the field" by sympathisers in the surrounding farms.

The civilians were cleared off their land into "concentration camps" and the Boers lost the supply lines, they eventually decided to negotiate peace terms.

As a means of shortening the conflict and bringing about an end to the war the strategy was effective.

So there you have it, stick everyone (man, woman or child) into concentration camps. To call this "An effective Strategy" is sickening.
    It's not quite fair to take Teribus out of context for the purpose of condemnation. I moved this message back to the original discussion.
    -Joe Offer, Forum Moderator-


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: GUEST,Busby on 42nd Street
Date: 04 Mar 08 - 01:31 PM

"As a means of shortening the conflict and bringing about an end to the war the strategy was effective."

Surely you are not saying the murder of thousands of women and children held in these camps was right ?


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: Teribus
Date: 04 Mar 08 - 11:47 AM

By all means Busby on 42nd Street.

The Boer Kommandos were being supplied and kept "in the field" by sympathisers in the surrounding farms.

The civilians were cleared off their land into "concentration camps" and the Boers lost the supply lines, they eventually decided to negotiate peace terms.

As a means of shortening the conflict and bringing about an end to the war the strategy was effective.

There is only one governing rule in war - Win. Anybody that has any misconception about that is a complete and utter fool, no-one engages in war to lose "nicely", war is not a "nice" business.

The conditions in the British Camps in South Africa became one of the leading points of debate in the General Election and campaigners in the UK won concessions from the Governmment to improve conditions markedly.

South Africa became a self Governing Dominion in 1906 and the Union of South Africa was formed in 1910.

Counter to popular myth the British did not "invent" such camps:

First recorded use of this tactic was in the Spanish 10 Year War in Cuba 1868 -1878 which resulted in the deaths of 300,000 Cuban rebels and civilians.

At exactly the same time as the British were fighting the Boer War the Americans were herding Philippino civilians into camps during the Philippine - American War 1899 to 1902. There the US forces suffered 4,380 casualties whereas the Rebel lost 16,000 and civilian deaths could only be estimated at somewhere between 250,000 and 1,000,000.

While all that was going on the British Forces lost round about 7,700 men in action, plus some 15,000 from disease, Boer losses in action amounted to about 8,000 men with civilain casualties of 28,000 Boer + 20,000 Africans.

Therefore in the scale of things the British camps in South Africa appear to have been a damn sight more "humane" than those operated by either the Spanish in Cuba or the Americans in the Philippines.

Glad to have been of service.


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: GUEST,Busby on 42nd Street
Date: 04 Mar 08 - 06:57 AM

Teribus, Please tell us more about the internment camps they set up in South Africa during the Boer War.


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: Teribus
Date: 04 Mar 08 - 01:55 AM

Art the greatest disater ever to befall Scotland was James IV's invasion of England in 1513 that was fairly short lived and ended with James' death on Flodden Field.

At that time Scotland had lived at peace with England and was prospering. England was at war with France and the French were coming in second. The Queen of France playing to James's sense of chivalry, sent James IV a handkerchief, a ring and a letter pleading that Scotland should come the the aid of their old ally France. James Stuart, then, like a complete and utter prat assembled the largest and best army Scotland had ever mustered and invaded England.

Just over the Tweed a wee bit up from Ford Common he met an old English nobleman, the Earl of Surrey, just recalled from France. He was an extremely experienced soldier and a very capable commander. He enticed the Scots from a dominating position on Flodden Hill, the English armed with Pikes and Halberts lopped the ends of the Scottish lances, the slaughter was immense. The famous and well known Scottish lament, "The Floo'ers O the Forest" was penned about the Battle.


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: artbrooks
Date: 03 Mar 08 - 06:40 PM

Have the Scots, Welsh, Northern Irish, Manx, and whoever else is included ever started any wars? Except maybe for the odd invasion of England? Maybe Wesley S. was right in the first place.


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: Teribus
Date: 03 Mar 08 - 06:33 PM

Well best compare their performance against the superpowers of the day and compare the "Empires" they created

Compared to the British Empire the French, Spanish and Dutch came nowhere close, it never started as an Empire it started as a Commonwealth and has since reverted to a Commonwealth of Nations, second largest international organisation only to the United Nations.

British Army at the height of Queen Victoria's reign numbered 40,000 less men than the US currently have in Iraq. So 42nd Street Busby, if what you say is true, they must have been really good at "kicking the crap out of the natives and looting the countries they took by sword and bayonet" over two thirds of the surface of this planet.

As for your - "They never seem to flex their muscle at the big boys !" - You have got to be kidding, for the best part of 400 years,
they knocked seven bells out of all the "big boys" of the time.


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: GUEST,Busby on 42nd Street.
Date: 03 Mar 08 - 02:01 PM

Teribus, They were good at kicking the crap out of the natives and looting the countries they took by sword and bayonet. They never seem to flex their muscle at the big boys !
Tell us more about the camps they set up in South Africa during the Boer War.


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: Wesley S
Date: 03 Mar 08 - 01:45 PM

Well - the victors DO get to write the history..........


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: Teribus
Date: 03 Mar 08 - 01:41 PM

I do believe Big Mick that I did address my post specifically to Wesley S, so that I certainly am a bit mystified as to what your post of 03 Mar 08 - 10:23 AM is all about.

But I will stand by my statement England, Great Britain, the UK, call it what you will, has started very few wars. Those that we did get drawn into we generally finished them in pretty good shape - and that does include your War of Independence which took on a global perspective in which Britain enhanced her trading position in the Carribean, Africa and in the Far East at the expense of Spain, France and the Netherlands.


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: goatfell
Date: 03 Mar 08 - 12:08 PM

So the Irish Republic is not a DEMOCRACY, then.


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: GUEST,PMB
Date: 03 Mar 08 - 11:27 AM

But we do call all USAians "Yankees".


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: Wesley S
Date: 03 Mar 08 - 11:15 AM

I used the term England because that's where London and Parliment are located. I'll assume that the seat of your government would be the proper place to look when it comes getting the wars started. I can see why y'all would want to spread that honor around a little.

True - America started this most recent war - but not with my approval. England, Great Britain, and the United Kingdon were all dragged into the war - we put a gun to your head and forced you. So sorry. It's not your fault. You're blameless.

There - is that better?


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: Big Mick
Date: 03 Mar 08 - 10:23 AM

Teribus and Backwoodsman, I resent the generalization that says "they don't understand that calling......" and the implication that we are all ignorant louts. One person made an assertion. If you were as enlightened as you seek to portray yourselves, you would have addressed your nasty little comment to the person who made it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 03 Mar 08 - 10:04 AM

Teribus, they don't understand that calling the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, "England" is like us calling the United States of America, "Texas". Now wouldn't that wind some of them up?

All English people are British, but not all British people are English. Not exactly rocket-science, methinks.


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: Teribus
Date: 03 Mar 08 - 01:20 AM

"The United Sates has only been able to start wars for the last 232 years. England however has been around a lot longer and has had lots more experience starting F////// wars." - Wesley S

Wesley if you go off and do a bit of research you will find that "England" has not started all that many wars, F//////, or otherwise.


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 03 Mar 08 - 12:09 AM

No


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: TRUBRIT
Date: 02 Mar 08 - 10:10 PM

Any evidence that Harry is a a 'ginger beer' --- and do we care? i suppose I must if I am posting..


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: Teribus
Date: 02 Mar 08 - 10:06 AM

"they have not work a day in their lives and yet it us the tax payer that pays their wages great job sitting on you fat arse all day but mind you the queen is a very mean woman she hardly gives her staff good enough wages at all." - Arran

Ah Tom, you do spout a load of complete and utter crap at times, as pointed out in a couple of other threads the cost to the British Tax payer of the "Civil List" amounts to 62 pence per person per year. Because the Queen accepts the £37.2 million from the "Civil List" the UK Government pockets the entire income from the Crown Estates which amounts to £190 million. Don't know about you Tom but I make that a deal that is decidedly in favour of the UK Tax Payer.

As for "they have not work a day in their lives" you chum would not last a week if you tried to follow their working schedule.


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: Scooby Doo
Date: 02 Mar 08 - 07:37 AM

I disagree with you Arran DOWN WITH THE REPUBLIC AND UP WITH DEMOCRACY.


Scooby.


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: goatfell
Date: 01 Mar 08 - 10:46 AM

who gives a damn really about the royal family, they have not work a day in their lives and yet it us the tax payer that pays their wages great job sitting on you fat arse all day but mind you the queen is a very mean woman she hardly gives her staff good enough wages at all.
so as a protestant UP THE REPUBLIC


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: Raedwulf
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 06:49 PM

More to the point, Wesley, we eventually learnt that starting wars was a bloody stupid idea. And you've no excuse. We never had anyone to learn from, but you could've learnt from us...

Now we just ride on your coat tails. When are you going to learn what we learnt? Maybe then the assholes in charge of us will stop getting us involved in your dumb mistakes...


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: Wesley S
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 04:09 PM

I'll bet you do Scooby. England is a country full of big hearted people.


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: Scooby Doo
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 04:06 PM

Sorry Wesley but i don't have a heart.


Scooby.


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: Wesley S
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 03:59 PM

Scooby - That's not fair. The United Sates has only been able to start wars for the last 232 years. England however has been around a lot longer and has had lots more experience starting F////// wars. We're catching up as fast as we can. Have a heart.


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: Scooby Doo
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 03:49 PM

So what if he is a Windsor or a Hewitt he has more guts than you or I have in fighting in this F////// war which the Americans started.

Scooby.


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: Big Mick
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 02:49 PM

Nice to have a thread which gets us off of the interminable discussion of US politics.

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: GUEST,Windsor Knot
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 02:48 PM

Very intersting.


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: Rapparee
Date: 26 Feb 07 - 09:16 AM

Like so many other things, why should I care?


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: GUEST,Robbie
Date: 26 Feb 07 - 08:04 AM

Refresh


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: GUEST,ib48
Date: 25 Feb 07 - 11:53 AM

definately hewitts,is that why they want him to go to the front line?   I WONDER


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: Alba
Date: 24 Feb 07 - 07:42 PM

See Thread titled BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield for more views on this very topic Robbie!
Best Wishes
Jude


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: GUEST,Robbie
Date: 24 Feb 07 - 07:10 PM

See he's following his fathers footsteps in the army. Being posted in Iraq shortly.


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Nov 05 - 07:38 PM

The butler did it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: Shanghaiceltic
Date: 06 Nov 05 - 06:41 PM

Well Ed and William are out of the picture on this one.


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 06 Nov 05 - 07:22 AM

But then... Hewitt and are very similar in appearance.... go back and look at both links.

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Nov 05 - 07:16 AM

Spitting image of James Hewitt, who thinks your view counts Teribus ? if your other opinions are anything to go by!


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: Teribus
Date: 06 Nov 05 - 03:23 AM

Thanks for the links provided by *daylia* (05 Nov 05 - 02:33 PM) and by Liz the Squeak (05 Nov 05 - 05:00 PM)

Liz as you draw attention to it, Harry is the spitting image of his Grandfather.


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: Peace
Date: 05 Nov 05 - 07:28 PM

That's why she was called "The Virgin Queen". No doubt she and Sir Walter were having it off (did I say that the British way? And correctly? Certainly wouldn't care to use the term 'shag'). Anyway, she was so referred to because she had no children--well, that she KNEW of, anyway. And with that, I wish you ALL a goodnight.


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 05 Nov 05 - 06:07 PM

Elizabeth the First was ginger haired.

But the Royals aren't descended from Elizabeth the First. No one is.


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: Cluin
Date: 05 Nov 05 - 05:07 PM

"Was there any Gingers among the Royals ?"

Sure.
They may cost a bit extra, but those blokes are rich.
They've always liked to spoil themselves.






Q. How do you know when a redhead has reached orgasm?

A. She unties you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: Cluin
Date: 05 Nov 05 - 05:04 PM

Nobody can dispute THAT side of the parentage, Liz.


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: Cobble
Date: 05 Nov 05 - 05:03 PM

Elizabeth the First was ginger haired.


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 05 Nov 05 - 05:00 PM

Look at pictures of Harry and then look at pictures of his uncle and grandfather Spencer here.

He's a Spencer through and through....

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: *daylia*
Date: 05 Nov 05 - 02:33 PM

Prince Harry was two years old when James Hewitt met his mother.


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Nov 05 - 10:19 AM

Well then he can't be charlie boys either cos he's got a chin.


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 05 Nov 05 - 10:11 AM

Harry can't be James effin Hewitts son because Harry has got a backbone.

eric


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Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Nov 05 - 05:16 AM

There are a few Gingers among the Royals, isn't the Queen's youngest son a Ginger Beer !


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