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BS: Entering Poverty

GUEST, Miss Cornholio Farquath Coughnfarts 10 Nov 05 - 06:01 PM
Bill D 10 Nov 05 - 06:19 PM
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TheBigPinkLad 10 Nov 05 - 06:23 PM
Ebbie 10 Nov 05 - 06:32 PM
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artbrooks 10 Nov 05 - 07:00 PM
The Fooles Troupe 10 Nov 05 - 07:16 PM
M.Ted 10 Nov 05 - 07:25 PM
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Kaleea 10 Nov 05 - 07:38 PM
open mike 10 Nov 05 - 07:51 PM
Metchosin 10 Nov 05 - 08:12 PM
CarolC 10 Nov 05 - 08:53 PM
Dave'sWife 10 Nov 05 - 08:59 PM
GUEST 11 Nov 05 - 04:50 AM
Liz the Squeak 11 Nov 05 - 05:26 AM
alanabit 11 Nov 05 - 06:30 AM
Georgiansilver 12 Nov 05 - 04:38 AM
Gurney 12 Nov 05 - 05:20 AM
Mr Red 12 Nov 05 - 05:32 AM
GUEST,Miss C.F. Coughnfarts 12 Nov 05 - 10:50 AM
Rapparee 12 Nov 05 - 11:04 AM
Little Robyn 12 Nov 05 - 04:02 PM
Stilly River Sage 12 Nov 05 - 04:17 PM
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Subject: BS: Entering Poverty
From: GUEST, Miss Cornholio Farquath Coughnfarts
Date: 10 Nov 05 - 06:01 PM

To Whom It May Concern,

Due to circumstances beyond my control, I am about to take a giant leap into the world of poverty. My life, until this point, has been pleasantly comfortable with little worry for basics. Although my name suggests royalty, I am sad to say that it more accurately reflects the life of a country bumkin, one quite content with many natual wonders of the earth instead of material goods. It is not the joy of entertainment and travel that concerns me as I am very good at entertaining myself and traveling within my own mind with the help of a few good books; why just this morning I journied into the very beginnings of Narnia with Diggory and Polly. Sadly, it is the day to day living that I am concerned with. Utility bills and groceries. I have tightened my belt as much as I can with the utilities and have followed the energy saving tips threads with great interest. That leaves me with groceries and providing meals that are nutritious and hearty for my family. So come all ye fine folk and share your good 'ole down home recipes with me. Help me stretch my pennies so that my nose dive can be an adventure and not a time of despair!

Many Thanks
Yours Truly

Miss Cornholio Farquath Coughnfarts


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Nov 05 - 06:19 PM

well...could I but find my old copy of the "Reed College Starving Students Book of Cookery, Drinkery and Housekeepery" with recipes like 'spiced water' and 'things to do with **rice**.....I shall think.


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: robomatic
Date: 10 Nov 05 - 06:22 PM

marriage


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 10 Nov 05 - 06:23 PM

You need a copy of 'Homeopathic Cookery' available from Breatherian Books Ltd.


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: Ebbie
Date: 10 Nov 05 - 06:32 PM

Every third day: Soup. No cost.

(Good gracious. I sound like gargoyle.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: katlaughing
Date: 10 Nov 05 - 06:56 PM

Well that was weird. My posting just got eaten!

Check this out: Easy Chef's One Million of the world's best Recipe's CD-ROM "Easy and fast recipe library on a CD includes 4000 cookbooks, over 1,000,000 of the world's best recipes, Favorites from 1000's of chefs from around the world. With over a million recipes to choose from on this popular CD-ROM, you will be able to find just about anything you can imagine. You can prepare 3" x 5" recipe cards of your favorites."

You can do a lot with beans and rice.


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: artbrooks
Date: 10 Nov 05 - 07:00 PM

Catchup packets, pepper and hot water...all free at MickyD...makes a tasteless but nourishing bowl of tomato soup.


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 10 Nov 05 - 07:16 PM

Welcome to the Club!

After his new industrial Relations Bill passes, John Howard will put out to tender a request for large signs "Welcome to Poverty" for every Aussie travel entry point.


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: M.Ted
Date: 10 Nov 05 - 07:25 PM

Make your own bread everyday. If you are dis-inclined to do the raising, punching and rolling(and I wouldn't blame you if you were) simply cadge a no-longer-used breadmaker from some friend or relative who received it as a gift, used it once, and put it in the garage---

Get a crockpot the same way, and use it to make many things from dried beans/lentils--and buy your dried beans/lentils from the Indian grocery, where you can buy three pounds for the the price of one pound at the Supermarket Chain--

Get a copy of Francis Moore Lappe's Diet for a Small Planet and study carefully the idea of mixing grains/etc to boost nutritional value--

Make your own lunches, snack foods and beverages, and always take them with you when you go out(many families spend more money on prepared foods of this kind than they do on the real meals)--

Get into the habit of planning meals ahead of time--in case you didn't grasp Ebbie's excellent advice: Sunday's Main Course leftovers make Monday's casserole, sandwiches for Tuesday and the bones and pickings make a great soup on Wednesday.

Learn to buy when it's on sale and freeze--

You don't need to be a vegetarian to have meatless meals--and if you plan carefully, you can still have a big Sunday dinner (or whatever day you prefer) without challenging your budget--


It is not expensive to prepare wonderful meals, but it takes planning and research--watch cooking shows, read the food section of the paper, grab up all the cookbooks you can find--Far from tightening your belts, you'll find that you can actually improve your family's quality of life by preparing better meals from them--


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: SINSULL
Date: 10 Nov 05 - 07:27 PM

Miss C.
With the outrageous increases in fuel costs this fall, many towns/cities/states are offering help with heating expenses to people in need. Contact your local agencies and see what is available.

If you new-found poverty is the result of natural disaster, find out what help is available both to cover losses and expenses but also to find employment.

If you can explain your current circumstances - illness? job loss? divorce? - you will get more specific info from people who have been there.

Good luck,
SINS


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: Kaleea
Date: 10 Nov 05 - 07:38 PM

Since I'm one of those ne'er-do-well folks on the dole (Social Security), might I take this opportunity to wish you a fond "welcome?"
   Miss CFC, just pack up the kids, take 4 or 5 buses (including transfers), & get yourself down to the food bank! Everybody knows that welfare recipients are getting rich on what they're giving away there-rice, macaroni, maybe some powdered milk if you're lucky. Then try applying for food stamps. It'll only take 3-4 hours of bus transfers to get to the welfare office. They aren't stamps anymore, and you get a little plastic debit-like card. But they won't let you buy soap or toilet paper with it.   Pop & candy is ok, though.
Then, might I suggest that you try my recipe for "Welfare Recipient's Stew."
   2 gal. water
   any items from food bank
   salt & pepper* to taste
   optional: meat & veggies

   * white packets are salt, black packets are pepper


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: open mike
Date: 10 Nov 05 - 07:51 PM

i know of a song called Entering Marion...
so maybe this is an opportunity to write
a similar song.

getting food direct from the grower at
a farmer's market cuts out the middle
person and some farmers are quthorized
to take food stamps..although i do not
know that these were like a credit card
now.

some places have food buying club where
you can go in with neighbors to buy in
bulk together.,..big bags 25 or 50 puonds
of grains or beans...or flour, etc. this
lasts a long time if properly stored to
keep out bugs, dampness, etc. (you can
often get gallon jars from restaurants
or fast food places to store your food
in.

good luck


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: Metchosin
Date: 10 Nov 05 - 08:12 PM

Well you can save your sheckels and buy a 50 lb. sack of carrots for $4.99 at your local livestock feed store. Then you start trading bags of your carrots with your friends and neighbours, for small leftover portions of moose meat or venison or smoked salmon from their freezer or some of their apples to replace the ones the bear stripped from your tree. Works for me. And boy, oh boy, do I have some variations on carrot soup.

And you'd be surprised how much meat you can get from chicken backs and necks.


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: CarolC
Date: 10 Nov 05 - 08:53 PM

If you don't have a food buying club near you, but you do have a natural foods store or food co-op near you that has a bulk foods section, buy your grains, legumes, nuts, and seeds that way. Your herbs and spices also. And buy a pressure cooker for cooking the legumes. This will save you a fortune.


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: Dave'sWife
Date: 10 Nov 05 - 08:59 PM

This reminds me of two autumns ago when I volunteered to make a cookbooklet for my local Food Pantry. They were getting complaints because they kept giving people the same things year round, mostly Thanksgiving type items they got donated in great quantities once a year. I came up with 12 things to do with Cranberry sauce and 20 with canned pumpkin. I alo came up with a pretty good Protein bar recipe using dried milk, Peanut Butter, honey and oatmeal. I think I even posted a varient on that here. Mostly, I came up with muffin and quick bread recipes.

Seriously, since Welfare and food stamps really don't exists anymore in the USA unless you have small kids, anyone in need should call their County Food Hotline (all US Counties have one - it's in the Govt pages of the phonebook) and get the addy of the nearest Food Bank. If it's a privately run food bank, so much the better.

Here in Los Angeles, the best and most nutritious food can be found at the Chabad food banks (They are a branch of Lubavitch Judaism). Out local Food Bank solicits donations from local community gardeners and so they hand out lots of fresh veggies as well as dry goods. They are very good and kind people. Most of their clients are on Social Security Disability and do not qualify for any other aid.

Best of luck to the OP. if you need to know what to do with canned cranberry sauce, I'm your gal.


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Nov 05 - 04:50 AM

Rice and beans! When I was home with two kids and very little income, I used to think I was the most fortunate mother in the world because my kids actually liked rice and beans. Even today, when they have many choices, they want rice and beans. No turkey dinners for these guys, they want burritos, enchiladas, chimichangas or taco salad. Add some cheese, tomatoes and avacado and you have a feast. Don't forget the tortillas.


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 11 Nov 05 - 05:26 AM

Get any book by Hugh Fearnsley Whittingstall (known here as Hugh Fearlessly Eatsitall) or anything about the River Cottage (cookbooks) from you library.

Hugh will eat anything and is a master of hedgerow cookery. The guy can make a 3 course meal out of stinging nettles, puffballs and blackberries, all harvested for nothing from the area he lives in (Dorset, not all that far from where I was brought up).

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: alanabit
Date: 11 Nov 05 - 06:30 AM

A mate of mine has just pledged himself to a life of poverty, chastity and obedience. I think he is getting married...


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 12 Nov 05 - 04:38 AM

Buy fruit at the end of the market day and you will find the prices drastically reduced as the traders do not want to take it home. Buy the supermarkets own brands of pasta, bread, pulses, soups, which are usually much cheaper than those by known brands. Roadside sales of fruit and produce can be cheaper. Find a dairy farm and buy your milk direct. Mostly...look around for who/what/where provides the cheapest foods. Get a book which describes the rations that people ate during the Second World War....they ate very healthily but ate what we would think of as little!.......Fortunately I don't have to these days but you can live very cheaply and healthily if you wish. With the extra weight I am carrying it might be a good idea for me to follow my own advice...MMMMMMMM.
Best wishes, Mike.


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: Gurney
Date: 12 Nov 05 - 05:20 AM

There are too many hungry people in the world, and I think they should pay more attention to old folk recipies.

'What d'ye think we had for dinner,
Row, Boys, Row,
Water soup, but slightly thinner,
Row me Bully-boys, Row.'

Seriously, though, if you have two children and no food, the answer is staring you in the face.


also, you could eat your computer!


(I do hope that this is the comic troll that I suspect it to be!)


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: Mr Red
Date: 12 Nov 05 - 05:32 AM

It seems almost heretical to mention that after a long spell of being emplymnet challenged - I found a challenging job.

The bad news is I am so tired I can't find the energy for the next Folk festival.

And you think you have it tough - oh the irony............


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: GUEST,Miss C.F. Coughnfarts
Date: 12 Nov 05 - 10:50 AM

This is a mighty interesting list. I wish I could tell you that it's a joke for us but sadly, our income has been cut by over 50%. In hopes of making this into an adventure instead of heartbreak we are focusing on what we CAN do to get through this.

At the moment my concern is in regards to making sure we will have enough money left for food after the utilities are paid. It seems that we will have some but not nearly what we usually will have. We are going to make do and be just fine.

Now-

Rice and Beans
Tuna Casserole
Turkey (luckily we have 3 large turkeys in our freezer and plan to make several meals out of these-including turkey soup-my favorite!)
Bread-I can make that
Eggs-we have chickens
Any other thoughts? I'd love to see some actual recipes here even if it's variations on how to use leftover turkey or 1001 ways to make potatoes.

Miss CF Coughnfarts


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: Rapparee
Date: 12 Nov 05 - 11:04 AM

You might find it easier to purchase bread and like products at the bakery outlet. Day-old bread is quite palatable and fairly cheap. And it freezes okay.

Spaghetti With Out Sauce.
Hot water and ketchup makes a soup.
Don't buy perfect fruits and veggies -- shop lower end markets.
Water and tea instead of soft drinks. Cheap coffee instead of fancy brands -- and buy it in bulk, freeze it by locking out the air.
Boone's Farm (or better, gifts) instead of Kendall-Jackson.
Grow your own veggies instead of buying them.

I, too, used to have a copy of "The Improvished Student's Books of Cookery, Drinkery, and Housekeepery." I lent it and it never came back (but then, it was lent to me and never returned).


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: Little Robyn
Date: 12 Nov 05 - 04:02 PM

You can disguise cheap cuts of meat - make stir-fry with lots of veggies and asian flavouring, turn sausages into meat-balls which can be fried, roasted or boiled up in an onion sauce, and kidney stew is pretty tasty too.
Liver is good for you and usually very cheap and so is Black pudding.
And Cornish Pasties are yummy and with potato, swede, onion, a little bit of meat and home-made pastry, they don't cost very much.
Our supermarkets offer 'shaved' ham or silverside, very thinly sliced. $2 worth gives sufficient meat to satisfy the family, with salads or put into a quiche or served up in gravy or soup.
You become quite inventive after awhile!
Been there, done that, not so bad now but not yet out of the woods.
Robyn


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Nov 05 - 04:17 PM

Fried rice is a good way to extend limited resources. And the kids love it!

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: Allan C.
Date: 12 Nov 05 - 04:33 PM

Endear yourself to a hunter. Many of them take pride in sharing in their harvest. When push came to shove some years ago, I had the good fortune of having such a friend. I learned lots of ways to stretch venison, duck, turkey and a few more exotic meats.

It was suggested above to plant a garden. Space is often an issue in that venture. A very small garden rarely yields enough to justify the effort and initial costs for such things as fencing, nutrients, and so on. However, a large garden can be extremely worthwhile - especially if you don't mind canning or freezing and all the effort those entail.

A large chest freezer (a used one from a second-hand shop or Salvation Army Store,) can be a wonderful asset. Not only can you freeze garden veggies but you can also take good advantage of sale prices on frozen goods.


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: hesperis
Date: 12 Nov 05 - 06:11 PM

Ramen noodles are cheaper than mac&cheese now unless the mac&cheese is on sale... but ramen (mr noodles) are really gourmet with just a bit of onion and some veggies, and maybe a bit of meat. The oriental or vegetable flavour ones are the best for that.

Making soups and stews with a slow cooker is really helpful.

Look up the books by Euell Gibbons, you can pick some foods from what are often thought of as weeds, that are often more nutritious than common vegetables found in stores.


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: bobad
Date: 12 Nov 05 - 06:35 PM

Buy a stewing hen, they are usually sold quite inexpensively, boil it up at a very low simmer for several hours with an onion, celery, carrot some parsley, thyme etc. Let it chill overnight and skim off the fat next day. With the addition of noodles or rice and chopped up veggies you can get about ten nourishing servings of soup. Remove the meat from the bones and with the addition of various root and other veggies make a stew for several more meals. Very tasty, inexpensive and nourishing to boot.


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 12 Nov 05 - 07:12 PM

In the DT Things About Coming My Way

http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=7263

Ain't got no money
Can't buy no grub.
Backbone and navel
Doin' the belly rub.

The pot was empty
The cupboard bare
I said," Mama
What's goin' on here?"

And for a variation on the theme their is Langston Hughe's:

"Ballad of Roosevelt," New Republic 31 (November 14, 1934): 9.
http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/5096/

The pot was empty,

The cupboard was bare.

I said, Papa,

What's the matter here?

I'm waitin' on Roosevelt, son,

Roosevelt, Roosevelt,

Waitin' on Roosevelt, son.

The rent was due,

And the lights was out.

I said, Tell me, Mama,

What's it all about?

We're waitin' on Roosevelt, son,

Roosevelt, Roosevelt,

Just waitin' on Roosevelt.

Sister got sick

And the doctor wouldn't come

Cause we couldn't pay him

The proper sum—

A-waitin on Roosevelt,

Roosevelt, Roosevelt,

A-waitin' on Roosevelt.

Then one day

They put us out o' the house.

Ma and Pa was Meek as a mouse

Still waitin' on Roosevelt,

Roosevelt, Roosevelt.

But when they felt those

Cold winds blow

And didn't have no

Place to go

Pa said, I'm tired

O'waitin' on Roosevelt,

Roosevelt, Roosevelt.

Damn tired o' waitin' on Roosevelt.

I can't git a job

And I can't git no grub.

Backbone and navel's

Doin' the belly-rub—

A-waitin' on Roosevelt,

Roosevelt, Roosevelt.

And a lot o' other folks

What's hungry and cold

Done stopped believin'

What they been told

By Roosevelt,

Roosevelt, Roosevelt—

Cause the pot's still empty,

And the cupboard's still bare,

And you can't build a

bungalow

Out o' air—

Mr. Roosevelt, listen!

What's the matter here?

Sincerely,
Gargoyle


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Nov 05 - 07:15 PM

Good songs. Perhaps Amos will detect a kernal of a song challenge and update these to the current administration?


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 07:50 AM

Our family were so poor:-
They were so poor that we had to paint our feet black so that other children thought we wore shoes to school.
We were so poor that we took great delight in catching the odd fly...so we could all have a leg.
We were so poor that I felt sorry for my sisters....I was born a boy so at least I had something to play with.
We were so poor that when the mobile butcher came we used to watch next doors dog as the butcher always gave him a bone...and if we saw where he buried it, we could dig it up to make soup. It was difficult eating the soup with a fork as we could not afford spoons.
We were so poor that our family lived with 'hand me down' clothes....which was hard to do as I am male and my sisters clothes never fit me anyway. I once wore one of her dresses to school and the teacher had the same sort of dress on...I don't know who was most surprised...him or me.
Ah well such is life.
Best wishes, Mike.


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: KT
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 08:24 AM

look here for lots of links to lots of recipes. You have the right attitude about making it an adventure! Do just that, and enjoy the journey.


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 11:54 AM

A quick cheap and nutritious dish. (North Africa meets India meets Harlow)

One largish onion
A cup of cous-cous or bulgar wheat (or half a cup of each)
A fair-sized saucepan full of some random collection of beans, chick peas, cauliflower, carrots spinach, what have you. (Frozen, tinned or fresh - if canned keep what you don't use in fridge for next time and the time after that.)
Various spices - notably turmeric and paprika, coriander.(Maybe ginger, coriander, madras curry...)
A spoon or so of cumin seeds.
Clove of garlic.
Half a tin of chopped tomatoes.
Generous splash of olive oil (quarter of a cup maybe?).
Tomato ketchup.


1)Boil kettle of water.
2)Put cous-cous and or bulgar wheat in a bowl, cover with boiling water, and set aside for till you will need them in a few minutes.
3)Fill up saucepan with your beans and such like, add enough water to boil, and put on to boil.
4) Chop up the onion
5)Heat up the olive oil in a wok or large frying pan, and stir in the cumin seeds.
6)Add the onion, and stir about till soft.
7)Stir in the various spices and chopped garlic. (Generous teapoons of most of these.)
8)Add the cous cous /bulgar wheat.
9)Drain the vegetables and stir in to the wok mixture.
10)Stir in big dollop of tomato ketchup. (And salt to taste, as they say.)

Eat, hot right now, or cold over the next couple of days (or reheat); a spoon of yogurt goes well with it; so does naan bread or mashed potato, or colcannon. Always tastes different, since the vegetable combination varies according to what you have, and so do the spices, if you like. I haven't worked out how much it costs, but it's very cheap as well, especially if you have enough of the ingredients to make it a couple of times a week, so you don't need to use full tins of anything.

What with ten stages, and all those ingredients it sounds complicated, but it isn't. The most difficult part is chopping the onion, in fact.


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: Little Robyn
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 01:32 PM

We had something similar last night!
Cous cous with herb stock and spring onions, and black pudding in cooked chopped tomatoes with home-grown olives.
I looked at a tin of beans to go with it but changed my mind when I found the olives which I'd bottled last year.
Robyn


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: Joybell
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 04:00 PM

A copy of the old Folk-tale, "The Magic Soup Bone" wouldn't go astray. Cheers, Joy


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 07:34 PM

Black pudding, now there's an idea. Works well with fish fingers. Not too sure about the olives though. But I'll try it if I find we've got any - basically I believe in the bung-it-all-in school of cookery.


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: Peace
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 07:37 PM

One moose will keep you in protein for a year.


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 07:57 PM

the last time I saw a yummy Black Pudding it was in the very expensive gourmet section of the most expensive & posh supermarket in Sydney! I went looking after I saw it on a menu in a fancy restaurant so ordered it, & only got a small slice, waaahhh.

Bloody nouvelle cuisine, I remember when it was poor folks food. Is it still poor folks food in your (separate) neck of the woods, Little Robyn & McGrath?


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: Peace
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 08:15 PM

Black Pudding--also known as blood sausage or blood pudding is the ULTIMATE in food. I love that stuff with some Keen's Mustard. Hard to find it these days. It is expensive in the stores here, too, and hard to find.

The commercial stuff is OK but it ain't as good as the stuff I grew up with, IMO.


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: Peace
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 08:15 PM

Here, too is Alberta, Canada.


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: Peace
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 08:21 PM

Black Pudding Links here.


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: robomatic
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 02:20 AM

You can buy beans and rice in bulk if you have a dry pest-free place to store 'em. I also buy maza harina and make my own tortillas with an inexpensive press.

Other ways to save money: If you pay for utilities, check and possibly improve your domicile's insulation rating. In the not too distant past my roomies and I closed off rooms we didn't need to heat and kept the temperature down. Our friends complimented us on our 'efficiency' because they didn't need to hang up their coats when they came over.

Avoid supplementing your heat with electric heaters. In fact, if you pay for electricity you can reduce the bill by putting in those new low-wattage screw-in bulbs, now available at Costco for low prices.

If you buy a chicken, save the remainders and bones and make stock. I have used a channel-lock to break the big bones so the marrow goes in, too. To make the stock last, pour it into ice-cube trays, about six 'cubes' make a cup.

Start a potato patch. Start a rhubarb patch, know where to find the good blackberries. Before you spray or uproot dandelions in the spring, make salad from the astringent but wholesome leaves.

And now for my song contribution (it's in digitrad):

SQUALOR
(Peter Berryman)

In the squalor of her awful little shack she sat
With her grungy cat and her parakeet
With rats a-runnin' 'round the size of caribou
Playin' peekaboo with her filthy feet

Eatin' donuts with a spoon and drinkin' Ovaltine
Through a scum of green floating leisurely
In a coffee cup of plastic from the Sally Ann
Shakin' in her hand out of misery

cho: And it's all because she didn't eat her vegetables
It's all because she didn't eat her vegetables as a kid
Or maybe she didn't chew them properly if she did.

Her brother slept behind the shack without a bed
With his battered head resting on his knee,
As the roaches and the traffic sang a lullaby
The water pipes would sigh a little harmony.

With the stogies he had found wrapped up in cellophane
To keep out the rain when the night was through
He would stumble down the alley pickin' junk sometimes
Or try to beg for dimes on the avenue.

Her mother as a seamstress never brought in much
'Cause she'd lost her touch in a codeine haze
Now she staggers in a stupor through the city streets
Wrapped in ratty sheets from her sewing days

Her crazy little face is hidden in the shade
Of a hat she made from a cardboard box,
The hair beneath her hat is so in need of care
It doesn't look like hair, it looks like dirty socks.

Her uncle'd come to see her in his tattered clothes
With a runny nose and a pint of wine
And a bucket full of bullheads he had caught that day
On Monona Bay with a hand held line

She would spread a little blanket on the apple crate
Where they always ate when they had the food
They would eat and they would drink and when the grub was gone
They would carry on if they were in the mood


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: matai
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 06:24 AM

Attend as many book signings and art show openings as possible and gatecrash all the neighbourhood parties. The time will pass and one day you may wake up to find some kind relation has left you some money. (-: (-;
Oh and only take on a lover who brings the food and cooks it for you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 06:34 AM

"Nouvelle cuisine"? Isn't that tiny portions of inedible raw fish and stuff like that, tastefully distributed around the plate?

Black pudding you can get in supermarkets here, no problem. Or proper butchers, if you can find one.

Porridge for breakfast keeps you healthy and solvent.


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: bobad
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 10:38 AM

Peace

If you like blood pudding there is a Polish/Ukrainian variant that contains buckwheat (kasha) called kashanka. I'm sure you can find it in Edmonchuck at any place where they make/sell sausage.


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: GUEST,Miss CF Coughnfarts
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 11:30 AM

Hello All!

   Thanks for many of the suggestions. While I do live in the country and I do maintain a rather lovely garden, winter is now upon us and I will not be able to garden until later this spring. The herbs are the only thing remaining as they don't seem to mind the cooler temperatures. The brusselsprouts (EW) are doing quite well too.

   As for blood pudding, I've had it once and that is all I EVER intend to have it. I refuse to subject my loved ones to such nastiness. I suppose it's perfectly lovely if you like chewing on a blood filled sponge. *cringe*

   One thing we have found that is wonderful is fresh fish. Luckily we live near many streams that have yet to freeze over and that means trout! The larger ponds are full of sunfish and perch which are quite tasty as well.

    We made it through our first weekend without some of our usual luxeries and managed to be quite happy anyway, imagine that! :)

Miss CF Coughnfarts


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: Peace
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 12:57 PM

Thanks, bobad. I wasn't aware of that. Next time I'm in the big city I'll search around. Oh, hey, one of the caretakers at the school is Ukranian. I'll ask him. Thank you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: Charmion
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 02:52 PM

As a graduate student, I went through a period of extreme brokeness that I now refer to as my time as a financial vegetarian. Fortunately, I lived fairly close to a Sikh grocery that catered to a large community of vegetarian South Asians and poverty-stricken students. I acquired a second-hand Indian cookbook with recipes for things like dal curry and never looked back.


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: Allan C.
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 03:14 PM

Learn all you can about "soul food." Much of those recipes make good use of the less costly meats. When you think about its origins it only makes sense that traditional "soul food" was created to stretch available ingredients as far as possible. There are lessons to be learned from old Russia as well. They can do some amazingly delicious things with beets, turnips and eggplant, for instance.


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Subject: RE: BS: Entering Poverty
From: Little Robyn
Date: 15 Nov 05 - 06:02 AM

Hi Sandra. Here in NZ the supermarkets usually have black pudding at the end of the meat section - next to the offal and it's usually very cheap. The last one was under $2! Shall I send you one over?
Robyn


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