BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: Ebbie
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 11:14 AM

As the inimitable jOhn might say: oh.

Thanks, Jeri.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 11:17 AM

fudgepackers?
someone fucked a monkey

you are wasted on us Martin.
do you write songs like this?

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: Once Famous
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 11:35 AM

Yes, I did start this thread as Jeri pointed out. She also pointed out that I do speak truth. She also is extremely aware of the fact that what I write brings out some of the worst in the hypocritical Mudcat world. This, at times, cobined with my truth, is extremely rewarding to me.

The Guest, Sissy thread was co-mingled with this one by the clones. Notice the name is different in the subject line.

So you morons as usual are not paying attention, which is totally not surprising.

dianavan and other howlers. Your chain is pulled! You speak but for a very few. Your tolerance of decadence is laughable in the name of tolerance and I am seriously glad that you do not have many leaders in this country that think the way you do, about politics or what is and what is not moral.

This movie is a box office bomb for a true reason. Deal with it.

Weelittle, I don't really care to write songs, just interpret others. There have been many renowned performers and singers over the years who have done just that. If that doesn't make sense to you, why would I think your songs make any sense to me?

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: Amos
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 11:48 AM

But it's not a bomb, Martin -- it's a resounding success and has been widely acclaimed. Are all your conclusions this slipshod?

I don't think it is true that all gay impulses are "decadent" -- I suspect there is some sort of fixed idea behind this assertion about what constitutes moral goodness, or at least moral conformance. But it is mighty presumptuous of you to determine that this fixed notion is some sort of objective truth, which must bear on all human lives. Presumptuous, and worse, kinda dumb.

I don't go in for gay activity myself, but I do kind of think that there is little enough love in the world for anyone to afford to ridicule one form or another of it. I guess people who are overly concerned with being right about things, rather than discovering the truth about them, might find such ridicule an acceptable option, but I think it just contributes to the misery caused by obsessive rightness, which requires making less of others in order to cling to some hope for yourself. (Pretty pathetic, really, when you think how much more joy there is in the world outside such a small game).

A

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: Jeri
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 12:06 PM

I think there already is a monkey-fucking song somewhere. HIV in people didn't start with that. The most reasonable thing I heard was a blood exposure (cut or puncture wound) when somebody was butchering one for dinner. That's just a guess though. Also, fuckees are at a greater risk that fuckers, so if, in this Bosch-like vision of hell, the virus jumped to people from monkeys by sex, it would likely have been from somebody being fucked BY a monkey. Probably up the wazoo, no condom, and no dinner and drinks before.

I'd apologize for my rudeness, but I spent a significant amount of time in Public Health interviewing people who had sexually transmitted diseases about their experiences, and the Great Thread Gerbil has already clawed its way through this one. Plus, until Spaw comes back, somebody has to provide the disgusting element.

Martin, what's your definition of a 'box office bomb'?

After December 23–25, 2005, it was only in 13th place and grossed $1,910,310.00. This is down a bit from 8th place $2,508,494.00 the previous weekend, but that's not anywhere near being a bomb. The fact that it does seem to be being shown in far fewer cinemas and STILL making this much money is significant.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: GUEST,Pinky
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 12:14 PM

I think I am in love with Amos. He's so sweet.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: kendall
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 12:47 PM

How could a full grown man screw a monkey? Impossible.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: MMario
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 01:09 PM

well the monkey certainly wouldn't enjoy it. But kendall - face it - if full grown men can screw chickens and ducks they can probably screw monkeys.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: Amos
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 01:14 PM

Only if he could get the monkey to hold relatively still. I have no idea how one would go about arranging such a thing....


:D


A

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: number 6
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 01:20 PM

I wouldn't want to even wonder about it !!

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: gnu
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 01:46 PM

Beastiality? And now bondage... unless it was a really friendly monkey... or ugly.

Glad I stopped by to see how this thread was progressing... digressing... regressing... time to egress.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: DougR
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 02:14 PM

Mack/Misophist: I suspect the longer the cowboys were out on the range, the better looking those heifers got.

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: number 6
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 02:22 PM

gnu ... I think I'll take you cue and egress out of this one !

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 02:32 PM

Boxoffice failure? Check THIS out, Martin.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: katlaughing
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 02:43 PM

Kendall, some full-grown men aren't...

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: DougR
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 03:37 PM

kat: didn't realize they were herding sheep, not cattle. Well, perhaps the Ewes probably become more desirable the longer you live with them.

No question but that this movie is the "darling" of the movie critics. Our local movie critic fell right in line with the others. Shocking, isn't it though, that such an excellent movie, as seen through the eyes of those critics, is not doing that well at the box office. I think it made about 10 million the weekend it opened. Were I an investor, I think I would be a bit nervous about recovering my investment in the film.

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 04:18 PM

Yes we should stick to traditional themes that every moviegoer can take his family out to for a christmas treat.

Harry Potter meets the monkey fuckers, Charlie and the fudgepackers factory, the lion the witch and whoevers available in the wardrobe......

the point I was endeavouring to make was that you have a flair for finding an arresting phrase Martin, learn to take compliments graciously....

its a bit like that song, A Whiter shade of Pale. the phrases are arresting and entertaining. I'm not sure the meaning is of paramount importance.

stating the opinions that you do, would get you smacked in the mouth in most bars in even a provincial city like Derby an Nottingham near where I live, I'm pretty sure they would in a hip groovy sophisticated place like Chicago - if its anything like it appears on the tv.

Admit it, you don't want to make people think or change their minds - you want to press buttons, and you do that pretty well.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: bobad
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 04:51 PM

Dan Bern - No Missing Link

They looked for the missing link
There's no missing link
They'll never find the missing link
There's no missing link
We're not something
You can figure out with an equation
We are the genetic mutation

Aliens came and fucked the monkey
They fucked the monkey
Aliens came and fucked the monkey
They fucked the monkey
Aliens came and fucked the monkey
They fucked the monkey

Darwin tried explaining it
Darwin the best he could
Evolution, pretty theory
But how could Darwin know?

That aliens came and fucked the monkey
They fucked the monkey
Aliens came and fucked the monkey
They fucked the monkey

How explain fax machines?
How else explain computer enhancement?
How else explain fiber optics?
How else explain Mozart?

We do not belong here
This planet was a terrarium
Intergalactic broken home
Have to go outer space
And one day find our Daddy

How else explain pay at the pump?
How else explain limited access freeways?
How else explain digital remastering?
Plastic flowers, linoleum, beefalo, Michael Jordan?
Religion?
Astronomy?
Astrology
That looks to the stars

We do not belong here
This planet was a terrarium
Seven billion bastards
Screaming for our Daddy

Aliens came and fucked the monkey
They fucked the monkey
Aliens came and fucked the monkey
They fucked the monkey
Aliens came and fucked the monkey
They fucked the monkey

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: Peace
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 05:14 PM

I have never understood why anyone cares about the sexual orientation of another person. Or about the clothes she wears or the colour of his skin; the religion she is or the language he speaks. I don't doubt that there are circumstances when such considerations might be important, but not most circumstances.

I seldom go to movies, so it's unlikely I will see this one anytime soon. That said, I knew some gay farmer/ranchers many years back. They were good people, paid their taxes, helped their neighbours when the help was needed and accepted help when that was necessary. It was 'redneck' country, but it seems to me that rednecks are not quite the stunned bad asses their reputation says they are. The couple was accepted by the community and ya'd be hard put to start hassling one of those boys because they were both fairly big and strong men. The one time I heard of them being hassled by a group of 'outta-towners' in the town's downtown area, I also heard that about four or five of the regulars showed up within a few minutes and the situation seemed to settle down real fast. As it should have.

I have great difficulty judging a person based on things like sexual orientation, colour, language, religion or political belief because we are all of us so much more than that.

I recall a dog that belonged to a neighbour. I don't remember the type of dog it was (the kind that have a pushed-in face that makes 'em look like they been chasing parked cars), but I swear it was the ugliest thing I have ever seen in my entire life. He was also kind, obedient to his master, quiet, friendly and I'm quite surprised his arse was able to stay attached to his body because he was like to shake it off the way his tail swung his rear end when he saw someone he knew. But, he was pretty easy to write off at first glance.

I am not addressing this to anyone in particular. People have things they hold to in terms of their perceived morality, and it ain't my place to argue with that. But it is my place to state a position.