Subject: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: dianavan Date: 02 Jan 06 - 02:22 AM On another thread, someone stated that the U.S. has plans to invade many countries. I laughed it off but: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/29/AR2005122901412_pf.html ...I'm still laughing but wonder how much these strategists get paid. I think I'm in the wrong business. |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: John O'L Date: 02 Jan 06 - 02:57 AM A 94 page document. I don't think they got paid much. |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: John O'L Date: 02 Jan 06 - 03:43 AM Come to think of it, the strategy for invading Iraq probably came from a document considerably smaller than that. |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: JohnInKansas Date: 02 Jan 06 - 04:59 AM Not to attempt to trivialize the article, but every officer in the US military, before becoming eligible for promotion to "Field Grade" (Major or Lt Col or above for the Army) must attend the Command and General Staff School. Part of the curriculum there is to prepare a "strategic plan" for an "invasion" of some country. These "school papers" would normally be classified, quite probably secret, just to minimize the risk that some editor would get wind of them and write a story like the one cited about a current plan. The same C&GS school also trains large numbers of members of "friendly nations" who do the same sort of "studies." It's claimed, apocyphally, that Japanese students trained there for several years using an attack on the US as their "lesson plan," and that in fact(?) the plan used for the assault on Pearl Harbor was essentially as prepared there (but nobody wants to confirm that). Having a plan doesn't necessarily imply any intent to use it. It's just a matter of good sense to continually analyse the defenses of both our friends and our potential enemies. I would expect that there also was (and is) a plan to defend Canada, or at least to assist them, in the event they are attacked by ._._._.. (fill in the blank with each of the contries one might guess might be a threat). There likely would be several - one for each possible threat, regardless of how unlikely the development of the threat might be. There almost certainly is a plan (or several) for repelling an attack by Canada on the US. There probably are (there should be) also plans for attacking each major US city, just in case someone "unfriendly" happens to take one over. As long as Canada remains the largest supplier of crude oil imported by the US, and supplies it at a cost less than the cost of an invasion, Canada should have no reason for great concern about an invasion by the US. Sleep well, Canadian friends. John |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: gnu Date: 02 Jan 06 - 06:21 AM JohninKansas said, "There almost certainly is a plan (or several) for repelling an attack by Canada on the US." Too late! We are already among you. Hahahahaha!!!!! |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: GUEST Date: 02 Jan 06 - 06:45 AM Eh? |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: kendall Date: 02 Jan 06 - 08:07 AM We tried it in 1812. We failed. Get over it. |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: number 6 Date: 02 Jan 06 - 08:36 AM My father was a field grade officer in the reserve Candadian Forces Regiment Grey and Simcoe Forresters. For 3 consecutive summers when I was a we kid they would attack Meaford Ontario. sIx |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: freda underhill Date: 02 Jan 06 - 08:49 AM Raiding the Icebox - US plans to subdue Canada Why invade Canada? |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: number 6 Date: 02 Jan 06 - 08:53 AM Thanks Freda! Whew .... I noticed an arrow on that map doesn't point to the Maritimes. sIx |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: freda underhill Date: 02 Jan 06 - 09:22 AM ..gulp!! |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: Rapparee Date: 02 Jan 06 - 09:34 AM Oh, hell, we tried again just after the Civil War, too. Some Irish veterans wanted to capture Canada and swap it to the Brits for Ireland. And no, I'm not kidding. Besides, when I was in the Army (1963 to 1971) the US had ALREADY been invaded. Detroit, Chicago, Boston, DC, New York City, Rochester, Cleveland and other cities had been nuked and Army Group SANT LAURENKO had captured both sides of the St. Lawrence Seaway, including Quebec, Montreal, Toronto, Ottawa, and Blind River. From the west, Vancouver, Victoria and Seattle/Tacoma were radioactive ash and there was severe fighting in the Canadian and US Rockies (Alaska, YT and NWT had long ago fallen). In the South, a strike force was coming up the Mississippi and Memphis, St. Louis, New Orleans, Little Rock, and Paducah (really!) were glowing heaps of rubble. Yessir, them Aggressor Forces were pure hell on wheels! I remember one time we had to go out with our rifles and machine guns and some steaks & beer and defend a city park from Aggressors who were coming up the creek from the Mississippi. They didn't give us any bullets, but we managed to both repel the invaders and finish off the steaks & beer in a good military manner. |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: JJ Date: 02 Jan 06 - 09:38 AM C'mon, everyone knows Canada will be destroyed from within. Didn't you see "H2O?" |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: gnu Date: 02 Jan 06 - 10:15 AM You think Jim Carey is really human? He was bio-cloned from Alan Thick and Suzanne Sommers!!! Not only do we have regular forces stationed in you major population centres, like Lorne Michaels in New York and Celine Dion (truly sorry abut that one) in Vegas, but we have bands of roving spies like the Cirque du Soleil, awaiting orders from the supreme commander.... wait for it... William Shatner. Afraid yet? |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: Rapparee Date: 02 Jan 06 - 10:17 AM Well...well...OH YEAH????? |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: gnu Date: 02 Jan 06 - 10:38 AM Hey... if youse guys are planning to invade, could you give us a few days notice so's we can tidy up a bit. Nothing more embarrassing than company showing up unexpected when the place is cluttered eh. Oh yeah - pick up some beer on yer way cause, like, we got lots a steaks and spuds and charcoal for the BBQ. |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: kendall Date: 02 Jan 06 - 11:19 AM Rubbish can be so funny. |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: GUEST,War Date: 02 Jan 06 - 11:23 AM I'm all for it. We need cheaper wood. Why let the beavers have it? |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: Once Famous Date: 02 Jan 06 - 12:15 PM We don't need to invade Canada. But if they are nice to us, we will still protect them. |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: number 6 Date: 02 Jan 06 - 12:20 PM Would you like me to get you a coffee or anything MG ?? sIx |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: Raptor Date: 02 Jan 06 - 01:32 PM The last time the U.S. tried to invade us was in 1912. But We're still using the same weapons we had then!!! They've already got our Tim Hortons Raptor(hideing under his desk) |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: number 6 Date: 02 Jan 06 - 01:35 PM Tims Horton's .... kicks (pinky) Dunkin' Donuts ass !! sIx |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: Metchosin Date: 02 Jan 06 - 01:41 PM Watch out for those Chinese or Russian tanks rolling over the tundra. LOL But your right MG, the US doesn't need to to invade Canada, why invade when you can buy it all outright. Its not as messy. |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: leftydee Date: 02 Jan 06 - 01:41 PM I think Tim Horton's IS a Canadian plot. The doughnuts and coffe are fine..... but have you tasted the food? It is inedible. Our McDonald's , on the other hand, is clogging your veins as we speak! Keep your stick on the ice! (to those of you who don't know... this is Canadian for "Have a nice day") |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: Rapparee Date: 02 Jan 06 - 01:49 PM I will vote for anyone who brings a Tim Horton's to Pocatello, Idaho. |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: Ebbie Date: 02 Jan 06 - 01:52 PM I thought it meant that if your stick is on the ice you can't hit me with it. *G* |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: gnu Date: 02 Jan 06 - 01:53 PM Protect us? Don't you watch "24"? If it wasn't for Kiefer, that there nukylar missile woulda blown the bejeepers outta yas. I see on the TV that he'll be back soon ta save youse again at the last minute in the last episode. Rubbish, Kendall? If you don't believe me about Jim Carrey, just look at him and Martin Short real close. See? Proof that we are gettin better at bio-cloning. Just wait until we bio-clone Neil Young and Alanis Morrissette. Now, buddy, that'd be right f***in ironic (moronic?). Psychological torture me arse. |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: GUEST,Kent Ovation Date: 02 Jan 06 - 02:03 PM Raptor, you moron! You're out by an entire century. It was 1812 not 1912. |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: bobad Date: 02 Jan 06 - 02:29 PM "I will vote for anyone who brings a Tim Horton's to Pocatello, Idaho." Tim Horton's is Canada's fifth column. The plan is to obesify and clog the arteries of the part of the population that is not already in this condition, we will then roll in as you roll over. You've been warned. |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: Rapparee Date: 02 Jan 06 - 02:39 PM Okay, so you're not eligible for office. I hereby change my offer to: I'll give a big ol' sloppy, passionate KISS to anyone* who brings Tim Horton's to Pocatello, Idaho. *who is female and doesn't frighten the cows. |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: Rapparee Date: 02 Jan 06 - 02:52 PM In 1866. Not 1812. |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: artbrooks Date: 02 Jan 06 - 03:28 PM Well, strictly speaking, the US invasion in 1812 was of the British colony in North America, not of the nation of Canada (which didn't exist until the late 1860s, or something like that...aren't there several dates that mark "independence"?) and the abortive "invasion" in 1866 was by Irish veterans of the Northern and Southern armies. Besides, who wants Canada? The US has entirely enough cold and snow as it is. BTW, as best as I can remember, we didn't develop any invasion plans in Command and General Staff College. That is the majors' course, and focuses more on battalion and brigade-level tactics and logistics. Hypothetical invasion plans would be more likely to be a part of the Army War College curriculum. AWC is the colonels' course, and has a more strategic focus. |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: Metchosin Date: 02 Jan 06 - 03:42 PM You want a Tim Horton's? Its not a Canadian company, go lobby Wendy's, they own it lock stock and barrel. I'm sure Dave would kiss you but I believe he's dead. |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: Rapparee Date: 02 Jan 06 - 03:46 PM Hell, we don't even have a Starbucks here. (Not that I miss it, mind you.) So, if I kissed Wendy.... |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: Peace Date: 02 Jan 06 - 03:50 PM '"We've got thousands of Canadians in the U.S. right now, in place secretly," he said. "They could be on your street. We've sent people like Celine Dion and Mike Myers to secretly infiltrate American society."' (from the links by Freda) Heed this well. |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: artbrooks Date: 02 Jan 06 - 03:53 PM Who are Celine Dion and Mike Myers? |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: gnu Date: 02 Jan 06 - 04:37 PM Mr. and Mrs. Dr. Evil. Now, that's a real Canadian joke. Seriously, that's cracking me up.. hehehehehe........... I can't stop laughing!!!!!!! hehehehehehehe....... sorry Rene.... heheheheh.... |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: Peace Date: 02 Jan 06 - 06:01 PM Let's not fight the War of 1812 which is officially named the War of 1812-1814--even when it lasted until 1815. It is much too confusing. Like having a Hundred Years War that lasts for 116 years. Anyway, if y'all do invade us you will be held up for a long time at Customs. |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: Peace Date: 02 Jan 06 - 06:09 PM In fact, the last time I went through Canadian Customs I wanted to invade Canada. |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: Rapparee Date: 02 Jan 06 - 10:14 PM Yeah, and Canadian Customs makes it damned near impossible to take a hunting rifle into Canada, much less a tank!! |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: number 6 Date: 02 Jan 06 - 10:50 PM Metchosin ... well, ya your correct ... Tim Hortons merged with Wendy's, but TH is managed, and operated out of their Head Office in Oakville, Ontario .... in spirit Tim's is still truly Canadian, like professional hockey. The U.S. .... not long before it is owned by China. sIx |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: LadyJean Date: 02 Jan 06 - 11:41 PM At some time in the 19th century, a group of Americans hoping to liberate Canada, invaded near Odelltown in Montreal. I know this because I have family of a rather distant sort who settled there, and I made inquiries about the place. (Didn't find them, though. Any Canadian catters knowing anyone named McFall from Odelltown, tell them they have a cousin in Pittsburgh.) |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: GUEST Date: 03 Jan 06 - 08:12 AM Hi Martin Gibson, what are you protecting us from...? |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: GUEST,Dave Date: 03 Jan 06 - 08:19 AM A National Lampoon MArtin Gibson Vacation, where Martin Gibson takes his family on a tour of the world spouting rascsit obscenties in every capital in the globe until someone lamps him one for being a complete tool. The film ends with Gibson being plunged over Niagra Falls by some pissed off Englishman, an outraged arab and a band of crazed canucks. |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: GUEST,Roll credits Date: 03 Jan 06 - 08:23 AM National Lampoon Martin Gibson vacation CAST Harry the Whelk as George W Bush George W Bush as Harry the Whelk Martin Gibson as Rascist tool Imaginary friend as Mrs Gibson Micheal Moore as Himself The Canadian national hockey team as themselves Vinny Jones as Pissed off Englishman Martin Gibson as Mohammed Gibson |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: GUEST,Directors commentary Date: 03 Jan 06 - 08:26 AM "this is where I show how much of I tool I am in which I visit Jordan and call everybody a turban wearing camel-fucker,........ in this scene they're inserting my head into a camel as Imaginary wife and kids look on" |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: Charmion Date: 03 Jan 06 - 02:22 PM The last Fenian raids were in 1870 and 1871 -- two in 1870 in the Eastern Townships of Quebec (as mentioned by Lady Jean), and the 1871 raid in Manitoba. Fortunately, the Montreal and Eastern Townships militia companies repelled the 1870 raids without much to-do, and the 1871 raid fizzled out in the bald-headed prairie. The most important fall-out of the Fenian raids was a sharp getting-with-the-program effect in the Department of Militia and Defence. Most of Canada's infantry and cavalry (armour nowadays) regiments date from the 1860s, but the end of the Civil War caused a considerable slackening of attention to the security issue. Confederation was a big distraction, with a new level of government to blame for not spending enough money in the right places, so for Militia supporters the Fenians were actually a welcome sight, even paddling across the Niagara River. Defence Plan 1 and War Plan Red are hardly news in Ottawa, I'm afraid -- in fact, I remember declassifying a copy of Defence Plan 1 in 1987. After all, before the Ogdensburg Agreement, Canada and the U.S. had quite contradictory world views and not very much in common at the political level. Come to think of it, has that changed do you think? |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: beardedbruce Date: 03 Jan 06 - 03:24 PM Charmion, And why SHOULD Canadians have the best interests of the US at the top of their list? Or US the best interest of Canadians? Shouldn't a country make decisions based on what it believes are in its own best interests? |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: gnu Date: 03 Jan 06 - 03:42 PM Nope. Not us Canucks. We make a lot of decisions based on the best interests of everyone, including youse guys. You're welcome. |
Subject: RE: BS: U.S. plans to invade Canada From: Donuel Date: 03 Jan 06 - 05:04 PM Just because the current US administration has made swipes against Canada for their meager support for our war doesn't mean we will invade. However We will in 5 years institute a policy for any American or Canadian who wish to cross the border to have a passport and submit to inspection. btw the friendly US fire that killed Canadian troops is all but forgotten. |