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BS: Do you believe in UFOs, God, Atlantis...

WFDU - Ron Olesko 15 Mar 06 - 04:57 PM
Clinton Hammond 15 Mar 06 - 05:00 PM
Little Hawk 15 Mar 06 - 05:05 PM
Peace 15 Mar 06 - 05:58 PM
Bill D 15 Mar 06 - 06:32 PM
CarolC 15 Mar 06 - 06:36 PM
Little Hawk 15 Mar 06 - 06:39 PM
Rapparee 15 Mar 06 - 07:04 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Do you believe in UFOs, God, Atlantis...
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 04:57 PM

make a left at Narnia and bear right when you pass Oz and you will find Atlantis


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you believe in UFOs, God, Atlantis...
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 05:00 PM

I'm the one LAYING those tracks....

Follow them if you dare!

:-P
Heh

" It seems more probable to me that we are spirits..."

Really? Well, we puts our money on the table, where we think it'll do the most good eh....

At least you show glimmers from time to time of knowing you are sat AT the table with the rest of us..... Unlike the ones who are laying twitching at our feet, hallucinating they are soaring around the rafters...

This post gives me an ice-cream headache..... I'm gonna go see if there are any pictures of pretty young naked women on the internet....


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you believe in UFOs, God, Atlantis...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 05:05 PM

Oh, there are...no question about that. It beats hell out of doing your tax return, eh?


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you believe in UFOs, God, Atlantis...
From: Peace
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 05:58 PM

47


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you believe in UFOs, God, Atlantis...
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 06:32 PM

hey! you want Atlantis? I got info right here!

pictures 'n maps & such of related stuff

How & why & when

wow...I found it using Google, so it must be true.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you believe in UFOs, God, Atlantis...
From: CarolC
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 06:36 PM

Bill, you are entirely too gullible. We're going to have to do something about that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you believe in UFOs, God, Atlantis...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 06:39 PM

There's enough stuff on zetatalk, Bill, to keep you amused for eons.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you believe in UFOs, God, Atlantis...
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 07:04 PM

To get back to the thread title, yes, I believe in God because it's damned sure that somebody Up There is out to get me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you believe in UFOs, God, Atlantis...
From: Don Firth
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 07:35 PM

Gawd, Bill, that brings back memories. I had a close relative who was into all of that stuff. If anybody questioned any of it, she would lapse into this smug, all-knowing smile and mutter something about "concrete-bound."

I became fascinated with the "Buck Rogers in the 25th Century" comic strip in the Sunday funnies when I was about six years old, and have been a heavy-duty science-fiction fan ever since. Whole bookshelves full of Asimov, Heinlein, Edmond Hamilton, all those guys, and on into many of the more recent ones, plus often attending science-fiction conventions, meeting authors, taking in workshops. Jerry Pournelle and I used to be drinking-buddies. I have a couple of half-written science-fiction novels just waiting for me to get back to them (gotta do some up-dating, though). Never missed a single episode of Star Trek, except a couple episodes of Enterprise after it started getting a bit tedious (main thing that kept me watching was Jolene Blalock in a cat-suit; love women with pointy ears; madly in love with Galadriel, too). Science fact also. I rarely miss an episode of Nova, watch the Discovery Channel a lot, and I devour books by people like Stephen Hawking, Carl Sagan, and Michio Kaku. I can let my mind hurtle through vast expanses of space and time, and speculate endlessly on an infinity of possibilities. No lack of imagination.

But I never buy swampland or bridges. At least, I haven't yet.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you believe in UFOs, God, Atlantis...
From: Peace
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 07:39 PM

Don,

I expect that you would enjoy reading James Blish's "Cities in Flight". It's a novel (made up of four novels) and there is a gang of neat stuff in it. Starts with a team building a bridge on Saturn (?). The bridge goes nowhere, but there is much more going on than that. It is sci-fi, but IMO one of the ten best ever written. I know that ain't yer bag, but just maybe . . . .


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you believe in UFOs, God, Atlantis...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 08:36 PM

You'll change your mind, Don, if you come up to Orillia, Ontario. I have a little swamp out here in the woods that I am willing to part with for a song...well, not literally, but a surprisingly low price! Yes indeed. And who would ever guess that beneath this little swamp is rumored to be hidden...Captain Kidd's pirate gold! Would I like to you? Of course not.

Then there's the bridge. It's near here, and it's a lovely antique bridge over the Coldwater River near beautiful downtown Coldwater. This picturesque reminder of our small town heritage can be had for a mere $30,000...payable in small unmarked bills.

But hurry! I can't promise that these items will last long, not at these prices. I'm practically GIVING THEM AWAY! I'm giving you this hot tip because I'm a friend, and that's what friends are for.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you believe in UFOs, God, Atlantis...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 08:38 PM

Ummm...I mean, would I lie to you? Well, whaddya think? Of course I wouldn't! My word is my bond and my generosity is legendary.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you believe in UFOs, God, Atlantis...
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 09:15 PM

"Has it been definitively established that there never was a place called "Atlantis", then?"

If you know anything about reading Plato, how and why he wrote what he did then, yes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you believe in UFOs, God, Atlantis...
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 10:42 PM

I'm not completely sure that I believe Idaho exists, much less Atlantis.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you believe in UFOs, God, Atlantis...
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 11:01 PM

sure it does


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you believe in UFOs, God, Atlantis...
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 11:02 PM

I can't find one of Atlantis...doesn't that prove...ummmm


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you believe in UFOs, God, Atlantis...
From: CarolC
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 11:09 PM

This is what I found in your link, Bill...

Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /71354/LK-Idaho.gif on this server.

Maybe Idaho really doesn't exist. I'm not too surprised, actually. I know I've never seen it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you believe in UFOs, God, Atlantis...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 11:09 PM

If it didn't exist, someone would be compelled to invent it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you believe in UFOs, God, Atlantis...
From: Peace
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 11:12 PM

Idaho has been kidnapped.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you believe in UFOs, God, Atlantis...
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 11:15 PM

awww..shucks. Jeff, who makes icons ,wants to charge for some. The states list is free, but you seem to have to go in the front door.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you believe in UFOs, God, Atlantis...
From: CarolC
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 11:18 PM

Well that settles it. There is no Idaho. I looked in Jeff's list and it's not there, so it can't possibly exist.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you believe in UFOs, God, Atlantis...
From: Don Firth
Date: 16 Mar 06 - 04:28 PM

The Cities in Flight series by James Blish. Great stuff, Peace! I read the series as separate novels back in the Sixties. I think I have them around here somewhere and they definitely merit re-reading. Mind-boggling! Thanks for the reminder!

I saw a science program on the tube a few of weeks ago where a couple of heavy-duty physicist were discussing possible space drives. One of the things they talked about was using a rapidly rotating mass to control gravity waves. Sounds a bit like Blish's "spindizzy" antigravity device.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you believe in UFOs, God, Atlantis...
From: rock chick
Date: 16 Mar 06 - 04:39 PM

I must be careful what i say or they may cart me away in a straight jacket!! mind you they may do that anyway ;o))
Seriously though, I say anything is possible and if it gives you faith and helps you lead a better life then go with it, providing it harms no one in the process.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you believe in UFOs, God, Atlantis...
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Mar 06 - 04:42 PM

So, if you're driving from Alberta south to Salt Lake City or Elko, when you get to the border with the US you just softly and silently vanish away.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you believe in UFOs, God, Atlantis...
From: Don Firth
Date: 16 Mar 06 - 08:00 PM

Aha, Peace, I found it! Cities in Flight, four novels in one volume, by James Blish. Due to the good offices of my wife, Barbara, who works at the Seattle Public Library and used her skills to organize our bookshelves, it was sitting amid other novels by James Blish, just to the right of a couple of novels by Alfred Bester. 600+ pages. I may be "spaced out" for awhile.

And, Little Hawk, thanks for the offer on the swampland and the bridge. I'll check it out with my broker and see what he thinks (I call him "my broker" because "broker" is what he would keep me if I let him).

But let me run this past you:   perhaps we could work a swap. The swampland and the bridge for a neat little "mini-act" I have. It consists of a mouse, a tiny grand piano, and a canary. The mouse wears white tie and tails and plays the little grand piano. The canary wears an itty-bitty tiara and a gold lame evening gown, and stands in the incurve of the piano with the tips of her little wings clasped. They don't do any folk music, unfortunately, except for some gussied-up concert versions, but they have a big repertoire of opera, lieder, Broadway show tunes, pop songs from all eras, and a whole bunch of novelty songs. If you were to take this little act on the road, you could probably make a fortune! Think it over and let me know.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you believe in UFOs, God, Atlantis...
From: Don Firth
Date: 16 Mar 06 - 08:03 PM

Sorry, Little Hawk, the deal's off. My conscience got to bothering me. I mean, after all, you're a good bloke, and if I were to lumber you with that mini-act, I would be cheating you. The thing is a total fraud!

That stupid canary can't sing a note. The mouse is a ventriloquist.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you believe in UFOs, God, Atlantis...
From: Peace
Date: 16 Mar 06 - 08:07 PM

LOL

However, BE WARNED: Don't take it on the road in Idaho. It ain't there. As Rapaire said, people have been vanishing lots lately. And truthfully, when's the last time a potato looked you straight in the eyes and said, "I am from Idaho!" Aha, thought so . . . .


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you believe in UFOs, God, Atlantis...
From: frogprince
Date: 16 Mar 06 - 08:18 PM

Accidentally learned from the "tube" last night that almost all potatoes for chips (U.S. type chips) are grown in Pennsylvania. But that may be just since Idaho disappeared.


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you believe in UFOs, God, Atlantis...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Mar 06 - 08:32 PM

Darn! Well, I should be relieved, I guess. I was almost ready to go for that deal. ;-D


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you believe in UFOs, God, Atlantis...
From: Don Firth
Date: 16 Mar 06 - 08:50 PM

Last time I tried to look a potato in the eyes, I felt like I was trying to stare down Marty Feldman.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Do you believe in UFOs, God, Atlantis...
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Mar 06 - 10:43 PM

Once upon a time, before Idaho disappeared, the land that came to be known as "Idaho" was flat as Kansas or Saska...Saksa...the province to the right of Alberta as you face North. It was, geology has shown, a high, flat, plain and rather boring from end to end.

Then came the potato.

What is known to only a few -- it's kept secret by the US Dept. of Agriculture and you'll learn why in just a minute -- is that potatoes are not vegetables!! Potatoes are actually a sightless, subterranean parasite much like a nemotode. Potatoes take their nutrients from the roots of what we call the "potato plant" or "potato vine". Potatoes will travel many miles (or kilometers in Canada or England or Ireland) to latch onto the roots of this plant, much like leeches do to warm-blooded creatures. The potato will suck the life from the plant if permitted to do so.

Potatoes were indigenous through the Idaho Plateau. There were literally millions of the critters, and when humans began planting potato plants the potatoes were of course attracted to their primary food source.

But humans didn't plant the potato plants evenly. No, they concentrated them in farms, in areas convenient to the humans. Thus the potatoes, generation after generation, migrated to what was, to them, a cheap and easy food source. But when the potatoes migrated nothing moved in behind them to fill the underground space that was vacated. Gradually, the land caved in, filling in the areas once full of potatoes. In many areas of Idaho this migration was so great, the swarms of potatoes so huge, that eventually the rocky "spines" underground were all that was left, and humans coming later thought that Idaho had always been covered with mountains.

This is a simple explanation, of course. You can read the entire story in Larribee's definitive work, Idaho Geology: The Challenge of the Potato (Moscow, Idaho: University of Idaho Press, 1947). Of course, the U of I no longer exists but you might find the book in some library somewhere.


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