BS: Attitude problem?

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: The Shambles
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 06:15 PM

According to several contributors on the 'Cat', the moderators have an attitude problem.

I am not sure who is accusing any of them of this but it could be that someone who is 'moderating' in order to protect us from abusive personal attacks but over time repeatedly responds with abusive personal attacks and name-calling when they feel they are being treated unfairly - perhaps does have an attitude unlikely to achieve the stated aims.......

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 06:05 PM

Here is a page with some cartoons about "attitude problems".

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 05:56 PM

I was thinking along the lines of the dog that ate his Master's Fedora, the dog had a hat he chewed problem!
Giok
I'll get me leash!

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 05:43 PM

When you fall out of a window you are likely to have an altitude problem. I thought I'd post that before someone starts up a copycat thread...

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: jacqui.c
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 05:39 PM

Right IMHO Mike.

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 05:38 PM

According to several contributors on the 'Cat', the moderators have an attitude problem. Not so! They run the show and those who question their right to do so have an attitude problem....right or wrong?
Best wishes, Mike.

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 05:33 PM

Agreed BWL.

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 05:31 PM

holding fairness and honesty in low regard would be considered an attitude problem for... a social worker

I wouldn't bet on that. Social workers who persist in regarding fairness and honesty as a priority, and see their role as primarily to help their clients are liable to be regarded as having "an attitude" problem" by management.

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 12:21 PM

"Attitude problem" implies that the expression of one's attitude runs contrary to a goal held by another, usually someone or some entity that perceives itself as being "in charge" and, thusly, with a right to dictate what one's attitude should be. So, what constitutes an "attitude problem" depends on who's calling the shots.

If one works in a used car lot, holding fairness and honesty in higher regard than making money is probably an attitude problem because it means the boss is going to make less money. Conversely, holding fairness and honesty in low regard would be considered an attitude problem for an accountant, a social worker or a judge.

One person's values = Somebody else's attitude problem

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 12:18 PM

If your non sequiturs are being deleted from those threads where they are even more irrelevant than they are in this one, then you have to start more threads in order to spread the propaganda don't you?
Giok.

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: The Shambles
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 12:06 PM

Wolfgang -

*Smiles*

If your suspicions were right you would have had the satisfaction of knowing that you were right - had you not already posted, refreshed the thread and turned it into what you predicted it would be.

I have not noticed any reluctance on your or anyone else's part to continue to refresh the longer threads you refer to and post here to complain about.

Could it just be that I wanted some resposes to the question I asked in this thread as a starting point for a discussion?

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: Wolfgang
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 11:48 AM

You have an attitude problem Roger, and it even comes over in black and white typeface! (Giok) (in the no posting of judgements week thread)

If others may find a problem with my attitude of always trying to say what I mean and meaning what I say - perhaps it is they who have an attitude problem? (Shambles immediate response)

Let me translate Shambles first post:
I want to start a new Shamblecentric thread and hope to attract some other posters by an innocuous sounding question. I can turn the thread later to make my usual point. Nobody seems to open the old thread anymore because it is too long. Let's play my favourite game in a new thread. I think I'll better not link or quote for then it might be too obvious.

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: jacqui.c
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 10:34 AM

As in "Your attitude bothers me". If said by one person - their problem. If said by more than one - maybe it's YOUR problem.

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: kendall
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 10:24 AM

Actually, the problem is not in the person you address, it is in the one who says "You have an attitude problem."

We often hear thing such as, "You need to pick up that mess." "You need to stop doing that." WRONG, More accurate to say , "I need you to...etc"

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: Bill D
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 09:39 AM

sort of similar to the phrase "having a chip on one's shoulder".

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 09:32 AM

It's true enough that the way people react to a situation is coloured by the way they are feeling, on that occasion or habitually, and that somnetimes this is more significant than the objective circumstances. Road rage is an example. "Got out of bed the wrong side this morning" is a way of summing it up when it's a one-off.

But "he has an attitude problem" or "you have an attitude problem" can also be used as a method for dodging the question when there is a real issue in play, in a way that is hard to defend against, and it therefore tends to escalate the conflict. I think it's an expression best left on the shelf.

"You're just arguing for the sake of arguing" is perhaps a better way of saying the same thing, without the psycho-babble implications of "attitude problem".

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: Alba
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 09:32 AM

It means it is time to have a look at your attitude and decide if it serves you well or badly..imo.

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: Amos
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 09:23 AM

They are saying that it isn't the issue as such, but the way in which you are dealing with it, that is causing the difficulty -- that you are being uncooperative, or in some other way adopting a personal approach that is getting in the way.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: John Routledge
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 09:03 AM

When dealing with situations our attitudes affect the way we react. If our attitude is such that we usually respond inapropriately then we have an attitude problem.

Everyone has some degree of attitude problem which varies from time to time and with the passage of time - not necessarily for the better :0)

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 08:16 AM

It means you adopt the wrong attitude to deal with whatever situaution you are in. It can also be a bit like what used to be called 'dumb insolence' in the army.
Sort of personification here
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: Attitude problem?
From: Mr Fox
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 07:55 AM

They don't agree with you.

Subject: BS: Attitude problem?
From: The Shambles
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 07:48 AM

What is meant when someone accuses you of having an attitude problem?