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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: JudyB Date: 18 May 06 - 09:46 PM Yes, it's a new nest with different eagles. The camera's actually 80 feet away on a crane - don't remember the details, but it's a type of crane that's relatively quiet to minimize disruption when it was brought in, and they had the animal protection people on hand during the whole procedure. The plan is to reduce the zoom a bit as the eaglets get bigger, but for now they have a tight focus on the part of the nest where they spend much of the time. By the way, I can see them fine from home - it's just my computer at work that appears to not want to watch any more. :( |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: TheBigPinkLad Date: 18 May 06 - 04:49 PM The owner of Hancock House, David Hancock, is an intrepid nutter who I can easily imagine shinnying up that tree to plant a camera. He must be well into his 60s now. I had the great privilege of accompanying him on an expedition to capture grouse as part of an biodiversity insurance project in 1989. You may have seen some of his books, M, they sell on the BC and Washington ferries about wildlife and NW Indian Culture. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: Stilly River Sage Date: 18 May 06 - 04:31 PM I went back to look--they are both still there, though bunched up and it looked like only one creature at first. So this is a different nest and new birds? And the eagles let them get close enough to put up a camera? Brave tree-climbers! SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: Stilly River Sage Date: 18 May 06 - 04:27 PM I looked just now and saw just one chick. Has the other taken a header from the nest (or been given a push?) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: JudyB Date: 18 May 06 - 02:22 PM Flushed everything I could find yet again, in Firefox and IE. Rebooted. Tried Opera, which I've never used for watching eagles (I use it for testing web pages but little else). Tried Windows Media Player. Tried RealPlayer. Tried the old computer that I keep for a couple of things that just won't work on the new one. Tried a different login to our local network. Nothing. I think our IT guys have blocked it. Thanks for your help - guess I'll check on the eaglets when I get home. JudyB |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: MMario Date: 18 May 06 - 01:28 PM I'm on watching live. Try flushing your browser cache. |
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Subject: Problem with Eagle Cam? From: JudyB Date: 18 May 06 - 01:25 PM So I admit I'm a bit addicted to the eaglets - most days I check in on them in the morning when I log in. This morning when I clicked on my shortcut http://www.infotecbusinesssystems.com/wildlife/default.asp, I got a page from DirectNIC.com, which I think is probably their web host - and it said "The Requested URL was not found on this server." That worried me - I occasionally get "timed out" messages when the servers are busy, and occasionally "server not found" messages when they're working on things - but this sounds more as if the web hosting company had pulled the plug on them. However, being a bit persistent, I called Hancock House (which is the eagle experts part of the project and which has an 800 number) and the woman who answered the phone said the site had been down earlier in the day, but was working now. She had refreshed her browser and you can see things moving, so it seems unlikely she's seeing an cached page. But that was over an hour ago, and I still can't get on to any parts of the Infotec site. So my question for other eagle watchers is - can you get on? I know I have an active internet connection (I'm typing here) and I know our IS people haven't blocked us from streaming content as I can still see the Maine eagles. And I tried using the same link the woman at Hancock House used, in case something had been changed. Hancock House is (I think) in BC, as is Infotec - but if there's something preventing US users from contacting Canadian sites, I shouldn't have been able to get to Hancock House either (and I just went to a Canadian TV station site to be sure). Thoughts? Thanks, JudyB |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: MMario Date: 11 May 06 - 11:18 AM They are being fed at the moment. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: JudyB Date: 10 May 06 - 07:42 PM Well, they have an endearing little waddle. They also have eagle beaks stuck on their fuzzy heads, and you don't want to be in back of them when nature calls! I think the jury is still out on cute. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: MMario Date: 10 May 06 - 01:28 PM |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: GUEST, heric Date: 10 May 06 - 01:13 PM (They being the camera people, of course. . . ) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: heric Date: 10 May 06 - 09:09 AM Despair not. They have set up at a new nest with two chicks. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: dianavan Date: 05 May 06 - 08:16 PM I thought I saw one of the eagles with eggshell in its beak! I have to admit I was slightly disgusted to think that eagles might canibilize their own offspring. I guess thats one way of getting rid of a rotten egg! I think the cams are much more informative than zoos. I hope zoos and aquariums are phased out as this becomes a more popular way of learning about wild animals. I found it fascinating. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: JudyB Date: 05 May 06 - 11:28 AM The latest reports I've seen say that both eggs collapsed, probably because they were rotten inside. General consensus is that there never were viable chicks inside - the eggs were probably infertile, or else the eggs died soon after conception. What looked like a hole may have been the shell starting to rot. The parents removed some of the shells from the nest and may have buried other pieces - probably to keep other predators from coming to check out the smell. Watching the process with the second egg made it more obvious that the same thing had happened with the first egg, and a review of the first few minutes after the camera came back on after the first egg disappeared showed what were likely pieces of shell in the nest. (This is based on reading a very long thread - egg turning frequency - where many of the people who seem to know about things post - I'm not an expert!) Those who have seen the tape from last year noted that the parents started stockpiling food before the eggs hatched - the fact that they didn't do that this year makes me think they never heard any pre-hatch pecking from inside the egg - supporting the theory that the eggs were never viable. As others on the forum there have said, it makes me feel a little better to think that we didn't lose two eaglets because there were never eaglets in the eggs to begin with. The crew behind the web site have found another nest with hatchlings and are in the process of setting up a camera, though the view won't be as clear - they need to have the camera far enough away to not disturb the nest. It won't be the same as the eagles I watched now and then for the better part of a month (and kind of bonded with, in a strange sort of way) - but I'll probably check out their new site when it comes up. And they're also talking about a grizzly bear cam - I don't know about you, but I wouldn't want to be the one to put a camera in a grizzly bear nest, hibernation or not! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: dianavan Date: 04 May 06 - 08:49 PM Its all over. There are no eggs in the nest. I do see two depressions in the nest. I think I watched one of the eagles making a hole yesterday. My guess is that they pushed the rotten eggs down into the holes. I hope we are able to watch next year. I learned alot. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: dianavan Date: 03 May 06 - 03:38 PM Tuned into the Hornby Island eagles just in time to see the egg unattended (20 seconds). The egg definitely has a hole in it and it looks bigger than the last time I saw it. I don't have much hope for an eaglet but at least the eagles are still caring for it. They haven't pushed the egg out of the nest just yet. If they still have hope, so do I. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: katlaughing Date: 03 May 06 - 03:15 PM I did find a different nest with a live feed with LIVE babies. Not as close up as this one, but still fun...we just watched one of the adults feeding the babies: click here |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: katlaughing Date: 03 May 06 - 02:53 PM Darn it, thanks, Jeri. I can get the site now, but no video. Maybe they have turned it off due to the infertility? Or is it the 10 million viewers a day? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: Jeri Date: 02 May 06 - 08:08 PM Kat, the forum was down, but the camera feed in Judy's direct MP3 player link, was still working. Now, the forum's there, but the camera feed's gone. One of the eggs was due on April 30, so if it's the one still being sat on, it's only 2 days over, but they're calling it infertile because it doesn't show any signs of hatching. Here's the Hancock House site, with the statement. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: katlaughing Date: 02 May 06 - 07:06 PM Anyone else getting a "page not available" when they try to get to the main site? Looks as though they lost their internet connection or something? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: JudyB Date: 02 May 06 - 10:54 AM The egg did disappear at night - when the camera switched to live feed in the morning there was only one egg in the nest. I don't know if the experts running the site will be able to see anything in the overnight tape (I'm guessing they tape at night but don't stream it - doing a rerun of the previous day's tape seems more interesting than watching a slightly lighter spot on a black screen that might be the head of a sleeping eagle). I think I also read that last year's eggs hatched but the chicks died after a few weeks. JudyB (still hoping....) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: catspaw49 Date: 02 May 06 - 02:09 AM I think last year the loss of the eaglets was due to a virus but the eggs did hatch. I still have some hope but very little that the remaining egg will produce. Carrick and others have noted that as eagles age they have more problems reproducing...just like us. This pair has had a very successful history. If a pair only reproduces themselves once, that is enough as someone else said. I think this pair has had 15 or more eaglets so they've done their job. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: dianavan Date: 02 May 06 - 12:03 AM Its going to be a long, cold night. The wind is howling from the North West. I did see the remaining egg and it sure looks like there's a hole in it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: LadyJean Date: 01 May 06 - 11:54 PM GUUUUYYYYYYS! Can't a Raptor have a little privacy! All we want to do is raise our eggs, catch a few fish, eat a few pigeons, and ride the updrafts. Then you humans come along with your cameras, and put them right in our nests, no respect for our personal space, watching us do everything. How'd you like it if us raptors went around perching on your windowsills and watching you! T.J. Eagle |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: dianavan Date: 01 May 06 - 10:24 PM With so many people watching, how did they manage to get that egg out of the nest without anyone seeing? Do you think they did it in the night? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: dianavan Date: 01 May 06 - 10:21 PM Maybe if they had salmon to eat instead of possum they would be healthier. Who knows! They are past their prime so it may be that they are infertile or they may be producing offspring that are not strong enough to actually hatch. I notice that there is only one egg left. I wonder if it will hatch. The odds do not look good. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: Sorcha Date: 01 May 06 - 09:23 PM Yes, the site says that the eagles seem to be sterile...and this is the 2nd yr in a row this has happened at this nest. Too bad. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: GUEST,heric Date: 01 May 06 - 08:49 PM There are now serious doubts that any eaglets will hatch from the nest on Hornby Island that has created worldwide "eagle fever" on the internet. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: JudyB Date: 30 Apr 06 - 06:43 PM I've been following the "expert" discussion - 35 days is average, which makes the first egg 3 or 4 days overdue. However, last year's eggs in this nest took about 38 days to hatch, and it can be as long as 45 days (though that's not common). The second egg is at its due date now, though again another 3 or 4 days is not at all uncommon. Once the chick starts breaking out of the shell, it may take 12-48 hours (or possibly longer) after the first hole before the chick emerges. There is also a theory that the initial black spots that were assumed to be holes might have been muck or something - one of the eagles returned from hunting with some black gunk on it, and that might have gotten on the eggs. I'm not sure if there's agreement among the experts as to which of the visible marks are holes; most of the posts call them holes, and it seems likely that some of them are - but it seems unlikely that both chicks would have started making holes at the same time as the eggs were laid 4 days apart - giving weight to the theory that one of the parents should have taken a shower before returning to the nest. Guess we'll find out eventually. There was a news release that one of the eggs had hatched - it looked as if the head of a chick was coming out, but a later review of the film showed that it was some moss stuck to the egg. I doubt if the follow-up story got as much press. Must admit I do find the site rather addictive, and am watching a couple of other sites where there are hatchlings of various sizes - the oldest of which are beginning to try wing-flapping exercises. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: Charley Noble Date: 30 Apr 06 - 05:53 PM Ebbie- "Laid" not "hatched." We all hope for the best. Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: Ebbie Date: 30 Apr 06 - 02:53 PM I was present just now for the changing of the guard. Fascinating. I've seen many eagle trees and nests but this is the first one I've looked down on. However. Given that the eggs were hatched March 21 and March 24, at least one of the chicks is seriously overdue, right? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: Donuel Date: 30 Apr 06 - 08:40 AM I saw a bunch of eagle hatchlings on the Colbert Report but probably no conection to the webcam watch. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: Sooz Date: 30 Apr 06 - 08:16 AM Theres a lot of moss moving going on at the moment and I just caught sight of both eggs (both of which appear to have holes in them) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: katlaughing Date: 30 Apr 06 - 12:15 AM Finally got in but it's so dark all I can see if the white head. I ma hearing a wonderful panalopy of bedtime bird songs, though! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: dianavan Date: 30 Apr 06 - 12:09 AM Me too! I wondered what was going on with the two gigantic yawns which didn't make a sound. ...and yes, both eggs have holes in them. I thought maybe the eggs were between the wing and the body so the hatchlings could breathe but I guess not. They seem to roll the eggs around a bit. I even saw it tuck the eggs under its neck. Somehow I thought they would hatch all at once, within a matter of minutes. I guess I was wrong.......... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: catspaw49 Date: 29 Apr 06 - 11:48 PM The wing bit is to adjust the temperature of the eggs.....a ventilation technique. Also, it was neat yesterday to both of them with beaks partially open as if they were panting, which indeed they were. Like dogs, they don't sweat so it adjust their temperature. Hatch or not, I'm learning some neat stuff following this. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: dianavan Date: 29 Apr 06 - 10:36 PM I guess it was only the song of the birds going to sleep and not the eaglets, after all. Did see the adult eagle get up, roll the eggs (including the one with the hole in it) pad the nest with more fluff and turn his head into the wind. I wonder why? I think the wind is changing from a south-easter to a north-west. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: dianavan Date: 29 Apr 06 - 10:16 PM Is it possible? Did I hear pecking and cracking followed by a cheep and a song? Cool trick with the left wing! Wow! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: dianavan Date: 29 Apr 06 - 10:00 PM Left wing permanently up and away from the wind for over a minute. Could be some hatching going on. I think they should be call Benn and Kramer. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: dianavan Date: 29 Apr 06 - 09:51 PM Anticipation is definitely in the air and, of course, the eaglets are due at any minute but I don't have a good feeling about the egg with the hole in it. It may mean that the lttle hatchling wasn't strong enough to break the shell. It could also mean that a raven has found the nest. As I said, I did see the nest unattended for awhile. Less than a minute actually. Maybe it was the changing of the guard. I hope at least one eaglet survives. What is really amazing is watching them learn to fly. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: Rapparee Date: 29 Apr 06 - 09:32 PM Someone -- dad, I think -- got up and turned his back to the wind. It looked like two eggs.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: catspaw49 Date: 29 Apr 06 - 07:28 PM As of a couple of hours ago, there are NO chicks yet. Doug Carrick the main Eagle wrangler admitted that he and his wife were both fooled by a piece of fluff around one of the larger holes. Mom and Dad have both been extremely active and there are some who say that's anticipatory and others who say its because something is wrong.......everybody has a different opinion of course. Goes to show how little we do know about things sometimes doesn't it. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: katlaughing Date: 29 Apr 06 - 07:01 PM I haven't been able to get it to work at all for the last couple of days. Guess I'll go look at screen shots.:-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: Sorcha Date: 29 Apr 06 - 04:55 PM Ihaven't seen a chick yet...there was something moving but I think it was a feather |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 29 Apr 06 - 04:47 PM Dianavan, when I saw it yesterday I saw the head of a chick sticking out of one of the eggs, and moving around somewhat. Also, "cheep-cheepy-cheepy cheep" almost continuously. Dave Oesterreich |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: Sorcha Date: 29 Apr 06 - 04:32 PM When we were at daughter's house last weekend, in South Dakota, we got to watch at least 10 of them playing in the thermals. Was really neat! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: Sorcha Date: 29 Apr 06 - 02:23 PM LOL |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: heric Date: 29 Apr 06 - 02:19 PM Oh, crap, no. That's Martin's website. Let me try again. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: heric Date: 29 Apr 06 - 02:13 PM I see a little tweety bird wearing an eggshell cap like a yarmulke |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eagle Eggs Ready to Hatch--LIVE From: heric Date: 29 Apr 06 - 02:09 PM Thanks Sorcha. It worked! |
