BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Dave'sWife
Date: 13 Oct 06 - 06:46 PM

GUest - it depends on jurisdiction. In cities, and towns it is often illegal ut in rural areas - it's permitted with warning signs

This page has some very good info about Escape Artist dogs in general and Hotwires..

Escape Artist dogs - solutions

Here's the relavnt statement about Hotwires from aove link:

>>As to the legality of using hot wire, in rural areas it is completly accepted so long as it has warning signs on it. In urban areas, generally you are forbidden to use electric fence by itself or on the outside (public side) of your other fence; but there is no limit on using it on the inside (ie private side) within your own property. If persons other than your family are allowed inside your yard, eg service people, you probably should put up warning signs and/or instruct them about the fence, or simply turn it off when such persons are present.<<

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Oct 06 - 06:34 PM

Sure hope the dog warden doesn't hear about that electric fence you have rigged up there WYSIWYG as they aren't legal for dog containment due to the tangle factor.

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 13 Oct 06 - 05:19 PM

Keep that scent trail fresh and i'm sure she will find you Kat :)

Yours,Aye. Dave

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: SINSULL
Date: 13 Oct 06 - 03:39 PM

kat,
When you finally get the little darling home, dry, fed and bedded, please announce it with a new thread. I think the 'Cat can stand the duplicate threads.
SINS

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Dave'sWife
Date: 13 Oct 06 - 02:17 PM

Stilly River Sage ahs the right idea. We started taking Puppers to Runyon Canyon park (where he fell in love with Famke Jansson's dog Licorice as you may recall) when he was 6 months old so we could tire him out enough to keep him from coming up with new ways to escape. Sometimes on weekends, my husband would take him twice and hike the hill 2 times each just to get him exhausted enough to settle down at night. Big dogs need exercise or they get crafty and figure out how to escape or they decide to take a more creative route and dig a hole to the earth's core.

We took EVERY precaution a reasonable person would and yet Puppers would still find the chink in our armour. Dogs are good that. MY friend Bill had a mixed breed terrier/spaniel named Cassidy who simply LIVED to find new ways out of the yard. He dug tunnels, he chews planks, he climbed trees - he was such a naughty boy. oddly enough, when we had a very large earthquake and his two dog pals Sundance and Buster made a reak for it, Cassidy stayed home! Bill was in oregon and called us in a panic saying he had heard from a neighor that the other two had gotten out. Sundance was a Shephers/St.bernard mix and I think buster was a boxer. We had to go over to their house in the hills and search for them. I found Sundance but Buster stayed lost for days.

Keeping my fingers crossed and you in my prayers Kat

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: wysiwyg
Date: 13 Oct 06 - 09:32 AM

Our escape artist is a big dog, so after trying all else, we went to the ag store for a hotwire.

"Do you want cow-strength or pet-strength?"

"We want him to get religion, but we don't want to send him to Heaven!"

So they gave us the dogwire to try, and it has worked just fine. One light zap was enough to convice him that fences were not for climbing.

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: jacqui.c
Date: 13 Oct 06 - 08:55 AM

Fingers still crossed (makes typing difficult though!)

I hope that today really is the day.

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: GUEST,Bee
Date: 12 Oct 06 - 11:50 PM

...with fingers crossed. (That's a lotta fingers on a bee, y'know). I think you're going to find her tomorrow.

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Oct 06 - 11:05 PM

As the owner of an escape artist myself I can sympathize with all of the efforts to keep them in. It is a big help if you take them for a good long walk every day--that is their work, they look forward to it, and you wear them out enough that they're less descrutive and less likely to try to escape.

Good luck with the pooch coming home.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: wysiwyg
Date: 12 Oct 06 - 10:46 PM

Thanks for the report! (Now I can sleep.)

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: katlaughing
Date: 12 Oct 06 - 10:23 PM

Thanks, Dave's Wife and everyone else. Great story. We had a half German Shepherd, half Dobie who was like that. Out and off in a thrice laughing as we scurried along to catch him.

She was just to the vet a few weeks ago and he told us she was too young to spay just yet, so maybe she isn't quite six months. At any rate, she was the runt and is smaller than her sister. Her sister is not in heat, so I think we are safe that way.

Rue took off the whole afternoon and walked all over in the area she was seen and then some, with Blondie in tow. She put up about another thirty flyers and spoke to everyone she saw. My brother lives right on the canal bank in the same area and will keep a sharp eye out for her, too, now that we know where she is hanging. There are plenty of places which she can get shelter and also probably food. Plus she loves grasshoppers and other bugs to eat. Did I say the area is near my grandson's daycare? We're wondering if she is confused at smelling the car scent from when we drive over there twice a day. Not sure about that, though.

I think I said, Fri. the 13th is always lucky for me, so here's to finding her, tomorrow!

Thanks so much,

kat

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Dave'sWife
Date: 12 Oct 06 - 05:21 PM

est wishes and prayers sent your way Kat.

Despite us having a scure and locked wrought iron fence, my recently departed Puppers The Alsatian managed to have himself a few big adventures during his 8 years on Earth. One of last times he got out, he figured out that if he ran around the yard 6 times in a figure eight, he could build up enough speed to just sail over the fence by an inch. I had just stepped in the house to go take something out of the oven, came back and saw no dog! He thought he was in the all clear and was trotting up the street to visit his girlfriend Stella the loodhound when he was confronted by our mail carrier who snagged him by the collar and brought him home!

Sometimes, Fences, locks, ID. Tags, Microchips, collars and a chain collar can be gotten around. ANother time he slipped out of the yard when my husband foolishly let him walk down the driveway with him to put back trash cans while neglecting to close the gate behind him. In a flash, Puppers was down the drivway and off on an adventure. I got close enough to grab his collar and in a deft maneuver, he managed to wiggle out of it. The two of us and 12 neighors chased him around for almost 2 hours. he loved every minute of it too, letting us get just close enough to touch him and then running away.

Finally, an elder we know from the local Kingdom Hall very near us happened to be driving by. He stopped, got out and commanded the dog to sit down. Puppers obeyed as if Georgio was Moses coming down from the mount with the ten commandments! Georgio, the elder, came over, picked up the dog, put him in the backseat of his car and drove him home. Georgio's congregation still laughs about that to this day and teases him. My dog was funny that way. He obeyed Jehovah's Witnesses and Firemen - 2 things we have plenty of in our neighorhood. LOL.

Well, You've clearly done everything good pet parents are supposed to do. I'm sure you've already thought of offering a reward too. All my pets have 'Reward for safe return' stamped on their secondary tags.

It's good that she's been sighted with other dogs. They are no dout helping her out by showing her where the good garbage is! That should help you catch her. I too hope she's been spayed.

Pleasem keep us posted on Numa sightings. We worry aout her.

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Sorcha
Date: 12 Oct 06 - 05:20 PM

Come on, kat....let us know.....

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Maryrrf
Date: 12 Oct 06 - 05:04 PM

Great news! I hope you find her!

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Becca72
Date: 12 Oct 06 - 04:04 PM

That's great news, kat!! Hopefully today is the day she comes home.

I once had a cat who went missing for almost 8 months and showed up again one day. There's always hope, even for snarky guests.

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Blowzabella
Date: 12 Oct 06 - 03:39 PM

Fingers toes and eyes crossed!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: wysiwyg
Date: 12 Oct 06 - 03:35 PM

Hope she's been spayed, or you'll have quite the Auction set in a few months!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Zany Mouse
Date: 12 Oct 06 - 01:24 PM

Guest: That was NOT helpful and I see you're too ashamed of your comment to identify yourself!

Kat: Very best of luck. Keep us informed.

Luv
Rhiannon

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Wesley S
Date: 12 Oct 06 - 12:54 PM

Good luck. I hope it pans out.

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: katlaughing
Date: 12 Oct 06 - 12:42 PM

Just got our first phone call with a definite siting!! I am headed over there, now. She was seen two days ago running with a big brown dog with a black tongue, must be part chow. She loves other dogs so that seems accurate. The woman saw her picture in the paper and said it is definitely her!!

Thanks, so much and please keep it up. You are the BEST!

BTW, the woman who called got her miniature pinscher back after SIX months!! No false hopes there.

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: pixieofdoom
Date: 12 Oct 06 - 12:02 PM

Still thinking of you and the pup and hoping for some good news soon

Fiona xxxxxxxxxxx

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Oct 06 - 11:35 AM

False hope is foolish.

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Canberra Chris
Date: 12 Oct 06 - 11:05 AM

I lost my cat down the drains when I left her with someone she knew. She was elderly, cold, hungry, thirsty, alone, frightened, lost and in darkness. I had been walking all the streets around calling her. One time as I pulled up on arriving to search again she recognised the sound of my car, and I heard the faintest cry when I cut the engine. It took me three days to lure her out.

Don't give up hope.

Chris

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: wysiwyg
Date: 12 Oct 06 - 09:57 AM

Thanks for the update, Kat.

It is early to be hearing back from folks, just yet.

Keeping up the walks with her partner, in wider areas and at different times of day, should narrow down the area where she may turn up playing in someone else's yard.

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: katlaughing
Date: 12 Oct 06 - 09:47 AM

Thanks, again, folks. Nothing to report. Not one phone call from two paper ads, radio announcements, veterinarians, humane soc., animal control, nor flyers. It *feels* as though she is okay and someone has maybe decided they want to keep her. I am hoping they will be *shamed* into calling us or just put her in the front yard.

More as soon as I know anything.

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: GUEST,Partidge
Date: 12 Oct 06 - 02:18 AM

Like the other posters, I'm hoping for good news.
Pat x

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: GUEST,Bee
Date: 11 Oct 06 - 08:21 PM

Still hoping to see good news when I open this... git home, Dawg!

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Janie
Date: 10 Oct 06 - 09:20 PM

Like Sorch....

Hey there prettypup, git yerself on home!

J

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: JennieG
Date: 10 Oct 06 - 08:30 PM

Still no news? Sending positive thoughts from Oz....wandering puppy go home, your folks miss you.......I'll sool our cat onto you if you don't go home......!

Cheers
JennieG

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Bert
Date: 10 Oct 06 - 08:19 PM

I keep checking here hoping you've found the pup.

Luvya.

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 10 Oct 06 - 05:16 PM

Hi Kat.

I hope you get good news soon. Thinking of you from across the ocean.

EWIS

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: katlaughing
Date: 10 Oct 06 - 04:59 PM

Yes, she is, on every walk and ride. Thanks so much, everyone.

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: wysiwyg
Date: 10 Oct 06 - 04:54 PM

Don't forget that her littermate can reach her better than anyone-- is she going along on all of the walks to woof, sniff, and attract? Even from a car, she can be a big help, but by laying down a familiar scent trail she can leave clear instructions!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Sorcha
Date: 10 Oct 06 - 03:25 PM

I keep opening this.......

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 10 Oct 06 - 03:20 PM

Was hoping to hear she was home today, kinda had the feeling she would be for some reason... Keep yer chin up lass.

Yours,Aye. Dave

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: pixieofdoom
Date: 10 Oct 06 - 12:09 PM

Really hope you find her kat........thinking of you

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: jeffp
Date: 10 Oct 06 - 12:02 PM

Thinking good thoughts here, kat.

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: katlaughing
Date: 10 Oct 06 - 11:52 AM

Thanks, folks. I wish I had something to report. One newspaper ad came out, today. No calls so far. The other paper had to add another day for processing the photo. Jeez! Morgan and I drove the neighborhood late in the afternoon, yesterday, and handed out a few more flyers to road workers and house builders as well as a local feedstore and Taco Bell.

Thanks, Mick. Rue is checking both of them every other day. She's on her way to both shelters this morning.

Susan, thanks. I'd like to believe she is safe and taken care of.

I will add my "woof-woof, get your arse home," too!

I've also added to tomorrow's ad: "Three year old child misses very much. NO QUESTIONS ASKED. PLEASE RETURN." You can see an outdated photo and the original ad by PMing me.
Thanks, again.

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Big Mick
Date: 10 Oct 06 - 11:32 AM

I hope that you are checking regularly at the shelters used by animal control. Sometimes they bring animals in, and due to lack of room, take action very quickly. Please keep checking on a very regular basis.

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: LilyFestre
Date: 10 Oct 06 - 11:25 AM

YEAH! What SINSULL said!!!!!!!! WOOF!!!

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: SINSULL
Date: 10 Oct 06 - 11:24 AM

Dammit dawg! Get your ass home NOW!

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: wysiwyg
Date: 10 Oct 06 - 10:07 AM

Patient gratitude that she is home today or happy in whatever circumstance she has landed herself.

I do know that wherever she is, she's fine. I know she is missed, but isn't this a wonderful ole world? It might be helpful to draw some pictures of Numa Jean in various good situations-- even the good side of the worst situations her little boy might be imagining.

There is ALWAYS a good side, and kids are usually better at finding these than we old fools are! :~)

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Zany Mouse
Date: 09 Oct 06 - 07:17 PM

Oh Kat, that's awful. Positive thoughts on their way immediately.

Keep updating.

Rhiannon

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: katlaughing
Date: 09 Oct 06 - 10:28 AM

Darn papers! I have receipts from placing the ads online, which say the ads would be published TODAY. Now, I find they will not be in until tomorrow as there was a "glitch" in their online placement system.

Painted a long, wide piece of subflooring, a scrap, with a lost puppy notice and attached it to our fence. I hope someone comes by, maybe having been gone all weekend, and finds her and calls.

Thansk for your continued support.

kat

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: wysiwyg
Date: 09 Oct 06 - 09:38 AM

Keeping grateful best thoughts as I head off for the water world.

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Blowzabella
Date: 08 Oct 06 - 05:52 PM

Fingers still crossed, kat

blowz

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 08 Oct 06 - 02:07 PM

Dogs can travel quite a distance in a fairly short time. Makes it hard to find them if you have a traveler. The neighbor meant well--you have at least one of the dogs. I'm sorry he wasn't able to catch both of them. Before I put in the invisible fence my neighbors put my dog in their back yard a couple of times (or she went in there herself--but she couldn't get back out again).

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: katlaughing
Date: 08 Oct 06 - 11:04 AM

Thanks, again, folks. It is a source of much comfort to know you all are sending good thoughts, too.

Susan, thanks, we've done all of that and a bit more. The ads come out tomorrow as we missed the deadline for the weekend. Best case scenario, she comes walking home on her own; next, she lost her collar and someone is waiting to see an ad/poster for her.

Thanks, again, it is sunny here, today so that should help. Morgan keeps telling his mom, "I want my Numa!"

luvyakat

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: GUEST,Partridge
Date: 08 Oct 06 - 09:34 AM

I hope Numa is home now, if not then I hope she's home very soon.
Thinking about you.
love
Pat x

Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: wysiwyg
Date: 08 Oct 06 - 09:25 AM

I dunno how it is where Numa Jean lives.

Where we live, we would:

Call the county animal warden (gummint job)
Call the ASPCA (nonprofit job)
Call the local veterinarians

And take the above places a L&F flyer with picture, to post on their Lost & Found board.

Also:
Put L&F announcement in the local paper and the local ad paper
Put up L&F flyers in the stores
Put up a L&F poster at the local feed/pet supply stores

~Susan