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BS: Pelosi

GUEST,Isolep 08 Nov 06 - 06:21 PM
Big Mick 08 Nov 06 - 06:40 PM
Big Mick 08 Nov 06 - 06:42 PM
GUEST 08 Nov 06 - 07:41 PM
Barry Finn 08 Nov 06 - 07:53 PM
Bobert 08 Nov 06 - 07:56 PM
michaelr 08 Nov 06 - 08:11 PM
Big Mick 08 Nov 06 - 08:47 PM
Rapparee 08 Nov 06 - 08:54 PM
Donuel 08 Nov 06 - 09:05 PM
Don Firth 08 Nov 06 - 09:14 PM
Rapparee 08 Nov 06 - 09:18 PM
GUEST,MN Matriot here 08 Nov 06 - 09:24 PM
Bobert 08 Nov 06 - 09:31 PM
282RA 08 Nov 06 - 09:31 PM
McGrath of Harlow 08 Nov 06 - 09:35 PM
GUEST,MM 08 Nov 06 - 09:39 PM
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Don Firth 08 Nov 06 - 10:17 PM
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Subject: BS: Pelosi
From: GUEST,Isolep
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 06:21 PM

"Yesterday, the beauty and the genius of our democracy, the American people spoke with their votes, and they spoke for change and they spoke in support of a new direction for all Americans," Pelosi said, and she pledged "civility and bipartisanship" on behalf of her party, as well as "partnership … and not partisanship" with President Bush and the Republicans in Congress.

http://usinfo.state.gov/xarchives/display.html?p=washfile-english&y=2006&m=November&x=20061108154544esnamfuak0.4397241

What is it you Democrats hate about the Republicans? Bush's torture camps scattered around the world? The vaporization of habeas corpus? Trillions of dollars missing from the Pentagon, and no-bid contracts going to Halliburton? Well, Nancy Pelosi has no problem with these things. She's going to work in "partnership" with GWBush.

She needs to go. Now. You need to call your Representative and blast him or her for even THINKING about supporting Pelosi for Speaker of the House. The momentum from the election will be diverted into support for the Bush Plan if you don't do this. Pelosi has said she will not allow impeachment of Bush, and she will not allow investigations into his malfaesance. Screw her. You want blood? Pelosi won't do the blood-letting.

They say a call to your congressperson has the impact of 200 votes. Democrats need to get anti-Pelosi real fast or Bush and his gangsters are going to walk away from their crimes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: Big Mick
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 06:40 PM

The use of the anonymizer doesn't hide you. This is the same old bile that you have been spouting for years, and no one is listening. Posting under different names and ID's means nothing, Matriot. You are irrelevent.

It is fun to watch you flop around and keep posting this drivel over a number of threads. And more fun to watch serious folks just ignore you.

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: Big Mick
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 06:42 PM

What really pisses you off is that you are afraid she will be successful. Just like it pisses you off that Hillary is successful. Heaven forbid that the Dems might actually start moving a progressive agenda. That would show you for the embittered and out of touch ass that you are.

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 07:41 PM

Is this the progressive agenda?:

House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi of San Francisco has told her caucus that the idea of impeaching President Bush isn't in the cards if the party takes over the House in November's elections.

...Pelosi also restated her opposition to the idea of censuring Bush over his decision to invade Iraq in March 2003.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/05/13/MNG94IRGOO1.DTL

(CBS/AP) Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., attended a fundraiser Monday for her Senate re-election campaign hosted by conservative media mogul Rupert Murdoch....

Murdoch's media holdings include the New York Post and the Fox television network.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/07/18/politics/main1816866.shtml

Sure it steams me that Pelosi wants to let the gangsters in the White House get away with their crimes. What pisses YOU off is that you know this is most likely a hollow victory. The Democrats are going to carry on big business as usual and protect their fellow criminals, unless YOU make an effort now.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: Barry Finn
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 07:53 PM

Pelosi can't ask for these things, she's now 3rd in line to be President. BUT a united front can, I believe that the tables will turn as the new year turns & we'll find the 2 lame ducks quacking their way towards the prepared barbi.

Barry


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: Bobert
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 07:56 PM

All I can say is that fir 66 years old, she is one hot lady... I'm going to enjoy watchin' her kick Bush's butt... Or just watchin' her...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: michaelr
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 08:11 PM

The original poster is quite right. Mick, your irrational hatred for this poster appears to blind you to this fact.

I quote Stephen L. Rich from another thread:

"Remember that these are the same spineless characters who have, for the most part, refused to speak out or take action against the incrimental advance of facism by the neo-con. Whenever a rare voice, like that of Russ Feingold, has been heard the rest of the Democrats hid under the benches hoping that the voice would go away and stop calling attention to them.
    While they are promising a "new direction", the direction is most likely to be sideways."

Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld etc need to be prosecuted, convicted and imprisoned. Impeachment isn't enough. These people are criminals.

Cheers,
Michael


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: Big Mick
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 08:47 PM

No, Michaelr, that is not the answer. Unless you want to incite the middle class, the military, the conservatives, the independents, and who knows who else to revolt completely against the gain just made. The problem with this idiot that posts all this, is that she is long on criticisms, full of pompous self righteous opinion, and short on any solutions. I see these types all the time. While they are busy spouting this horseshit, they fail to admit that this is a nation of laws. It is a nation where we resolve differences politically. Go to the solution she proposes and you lose those that aren't as radically inclined as I, or you, might like. Lose them, and you lose the necessary support that you saw last night.

What really makes this person pissed is that she sees something that has the potential to lead to progress. She can't have that, because it makes her wrong.

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 08:54 PM

Pelosi has taken impeachment "off the table." She has said that it won't happen.

And I hope that it doesn't, at least not yet. We do not need any more divisiveness in the US right now.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 09:05 PM

We should note that trillions of dollars have been missing at the pentagon on an ongoing basis since the 60s.

Before the sixties it was only billions of dollars.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: Don Firth
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 09:14 PM

Nancy Pelosi is a shrewd politician. She has made her opinion of Bush known in no uncertain terms a number of times, but she knows that if she keeps talking like that, everything that has been gained yesterday will go down the tubes.

Impeaching Bush sounds like a lovely idea, but that would create one helluva mess and might not even be successful. But now, Bush has been chained to the post and is going to be very restricted in what he can do.

Much as she might want to consign Bush and Cheney to the pit (after all, if that were to successfully happen, she'd be president), she knows that would be a damned stupid and dangerous thing to try.

So she's too smart to try to satisfy the bloodlust of people like the nameless GUEST who started this thread.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 09:18 PM

Exactly, Don. And as President she'd very likely have even more against her, seeing her as a vindictive bitch.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: GUEST,MN Matriot here
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 09:24 PM

Tsk, tsk. Seems some clones are confused as to how many people are posting "anon" these days. Guess that happens when irrational hatred of a perfect stranger colors one's judgment. Twasn't I ranting above. I'm not out for blood, vengence, etc.

Although I'd be happy to see some Dem heads roll, starting with Mike Erlandson's. In what was once a true blue state, in an election with a Democratic sweep, the MN DFL party fielded yet ANOTHER dumb ass white guy for MN governor, and lost the farm AGAIN. Repubs hang on to the governor's seat in MN, thanks to the lame ass, same old same old "middle class moderate centrist" candidate.

MN sent the first Muslim and African American rep to the US House, elected it's first woman US senator, and had two of the other three constitutional offices go to women--every single one of them a Democrat.

But the governor's race? Same old, lame old.

Pelosi is the tired old face of the same old same old tired Republicrat party. No change there, and anyone who expects meaningful change as a result of moderate Repubs being swapped for conservative Republicrats is ah...sailing that same river in Egypt that Bushy Boy is swift boating down.

Time to change the holy water and the Kool Aid.

And maybe time for Big Mick to take a computer course on using the Firefox browser.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: Bobert
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 09:31 PM

Why's everyone all bent outta shape here???

Look at it this way... Okay, beyond the fact that find the ol' gal a hottie there's more to this woman than looks...

How the heck did she get this far anyways???


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: 282RA
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 09:31 PM

Pelosi is a politician and she knows better than to shoot her mouth off about going after Bush. She knows as well as anyone that it will have to be done. Bush knows it too. But it will be done gradually. They have until January and they need to plan this thing out. But there is no way Pelosi is going to squelch investigations into the run-up to the war and the fraud and thievery it spawned--not to mention the torture, the warrantless wiretapping, etc. She's not stupid. Unlike some people.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 09:35 PM

Surely impeachment would really only become relevant once other inquiries into what has being going on had brought out evidence that Bush had done things that merited impeachment.   

Bring on the inquiries.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: GUEST,MM
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 09:39 PM

She can't talk about going after Bush before she rescues the troops.

Bobert, have you had your eyes checked recently? Pelosi looks like an anoxeric, over hill Barbie with a stick up her arse that makes her eyes pop out!

However, I did hear Britney is looking for a shoulder to cry on these days.

Just funnin' wit ya Bobert. I know you lust after those Dixie Chick types.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 10:09 PM

The new "leadership" of the Democratic party is saying crimes against humanity are fine. And they take millions from neo-con fascists like Murdoch. The best way to put the final stamp on yesterday's vote is to remove the Republicrat Pelosi from consideration as Speaker of the House. She is on the Bush team.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: Don Firth
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 10:17 PM

"Pelosi looks like an anoxeric, over hill Barbie with a stick up her arse that makes her eyes pop out!"

Yep. That's all you need to know about her (not that I agree with the description) to be opposed to her, I guess.

And there we have a fine example of "an informed electorate."

Thomas Jefferson must by spinning in his grave.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 10:21 PM

Not opposed to her Don, just not impressed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: GUEST,MM
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 10:22 PM

Oh wait! I've something positive to say about the old girl!

She is definitely more liberal than Margaret Thatcher.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: pdq
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 10:24 PM

Election Year Rag ~ Steve Goodman


Come on babe, won't you take a chance,
Your papa's gonna show you a brand new dance,
You shuffle on down, now don't you be no drag
And do that Election Year Rag.

You take two steps to the left and two steps to the right,
Then just land in the middle and you hang on tight.
Come on down now, don't feel mad,
You can do that Election Year Rag.

Jump on that old bandwagon,
Here's what you gonna do:
Go down to the Precinct Captain's house this morning
And scarf up some lame duck stew.

Well, don't you cry, don't shed no tears,
You know it only comes around every four years,
And I am your dark horse and you're my nag,
Do that Election Year Rag.

If you feel like you need a score card,
Well, you really don't have to fuss.
You know the winner's always somebody else
And the loser is always us.

And it's shake it to the East, shake it to the West,
Hand me down my bullet-proof vest.
It's nobody's choice and it's anybody's guess
And do that Election -
There ain't no selection,
And do that Election Year Rag.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 10:27 PM

The world just isn't the same without Steve Goodman, is it?


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: Ebbie
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 10:31 PM

I heard Pelosi say that the Democratic Party and she have worked too hard for too long to have it turn out to be about the administration. She said the Democrats have a full work agenda and that is what they are going to work on.

That said, I have also heard others in the party say there will have to be investigations of various kinds, especially an investigation in how the country got into the mess it's in.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: Bobert
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 10:32 PM

Well, okay... Different strokes for different folks... I still think she'sa looker but...

...nevermind all that... She is also a successsfull woman with a lot of balls an' she is gonna kink George Bush's arse back to the stone-age... She's gonna have him sayin' "yes mame, no mame, please don't look under that rock, mame", etc., etc....

And she knows she can get away with it and Bush does, too...

No, I wouldn't want to be Bush when the guard officially changes and Ms. Hottie reveals her "First 100 Hour Plan"... Yeah, gonna be 4 days from Hell for the poor boy...

And, well yeah, it won't be too long after that that this ol' hillbilly will be jumpin' on the Dems, I'm gonna enjoy the heck out of watchin' this anorexic granny whup Bush like his daddy should have done more of...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 10:39 PM

Well, if she's gonna get kinky w/Dubya's arse, I wanna see it on You Tube.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 11:34 PM

Has Pelosi mentioned repealing the PATRIOT Act? Is she going to repeal the Military Commissions Act and give Americans the right of habeas corpus again? What's this progressive agenda all of you are under the impression Pelosi has worked out? What exactly would a Pelosi-led House do, aside from let the Bush junta off the hook for crimes against humanity? The Bush criminals need to be tried and hung. Pelosi has said that's not an option. And the Rupert Murdoch-controlled press is shoving her in your face as the new Speaker of the House. A fascist media mogul is telling you liberals what to think. You're being conditioned to accept a do-nothing Representative as the new mouthpiece for the House Democrats. But we need a bulldog. Bush and his henchmen need to pay for what they've done, and the Democrats need to undo the bad legislation passed over the last 6 years. Pelosi won't do that. The country needs someone who will.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: Barry Finn
Date: 09 Nov 06 - 12:03 AM

Guest,,, get a job or a life or something. You're telling me what's wrong. Ya got a little milk on your chin sonny go home & have a shave or better yet have the cat lick ya face.

"Rupert Murdoch-controlled press" may be trying to tell you something but there are many here that do more than just read a rag every so often.
Nancy won't push the Bush & Cheney impeachment issue yet, she can't. She's 3rd in line & steps into their shoes once they're out but it doesn't mean the issue won't, in due time, get pushed. I wouldn't mind her stepping in as Pres when the 2 ducks get tossed out. They haven't even stepped up to the plate yet & you're already bashing them, I guess you need things done yesterday. In due time, though it better not be a long time. 100 days isn't to long, Bush got 6 years. I like the woman, she's called Bush & company on their every move & she's let them know exactly what she thinks of them & she's not gonna waste time looking for blood but I'll bet the farm she'll get her pound of flesh from the bastards. I'd just as soon give them all life sentences too but I'm older now & I'm not looking for a revolution anymore. That's the last resort & the action of youth, I was there once & it's not a place I'd like to see again. But don't let anyone stop you, be my guest,,,huckleberry.

Barry


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: 282RA
Date: 09 Nov 06 - 12:10 AM

>>Surely impeachment would really only become relevant once other inquiries into what has being going on had brought out evidence that Bush had done things that merited impeachment.<<

It may be better not to impeach him. They can hold it over his head as a kind of bargaining chip. Because if you impeach Bush, you make Cheney president and if you impeach him, you make Pelosi acting president and that's pretty radical in a time of war and the nation probably won't go for that without good reason. If Bush vetos too much popular legislation then impeachment procedings can begin without much outcry.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: 282RA
Date: 09 Nov 06 - 12:11 AM

>>The best way to put the final stamp on yesterday's vote is to remove the Republicrat Pelosi from consideration as Speaker of the House. She is on the Bush team.<<

Feel free. Let us know how it goes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: 282RA
Date: 09 Nov 06 - 12:12 AM

>>She is definitely more liberal than Margaret Thatcher.<<

Who isn't?


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: 282RA
Date: 09 Nov 06 - 12:15 AM

>>Has Pelosi mentioned repealing the PATRIOT Act? Is she going to repeal the Military Commissions Act and give Americans the right of habeas corpus again?<<

They probably won't simply repeal it. They might want to first show Americans why these things are not good ideas and then repeal it. Otherwise they come off as being vindictive and not caring what the people think about it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: Barry Finn
Date: 09 Nov 06 - 12:20 AM

Or let the Supreme Court toss it out as illegal & against the Genevna Conventions, like the last time.

Barry


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: 282RA
Date: 09 Nov 06 - 12:26 AM

That would work.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Nov 06 - 01:21 AM

The voting yesterday was a MASSIVE landslide for the Democrats, but the machine tampering kept it down to a slight tilt of the scales. And you Democrats are going to be satisfied with that. And you won't care if the tyranny continues to build as long as "one of ours" is at the top of the pyramid. Impeachement is a charade, the Senate would never vote to convict, but it's a necessary charade because it'll uncover the TRUE depths of depravity in the Bush White House. Yet Democrats are going to lay back and let their day in the sun stretch into a week, then a month... No wonder Republicans despise you. You wield power like children. They know you won't question the bogus election results because you got you stinking bone from good ol' massuh. You have an opportunity to absolutely annihilate the most destructive criminal/political machine the US has ever produced, and you're going to choose to do nothing. Just trust massuh's appointed overseer and things'll be fine, won't they?


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: GUEST,I Vote For 282RA
Date: 09 Nov 06 - 02:55 AM

"Pelosi is a politician and she knows better than to shoot her mouth off about going after Bush. She knows as well as anyone that it will have to be done. Bush knows it too. But it will be done gradually. They have until January and they need to plan this thing out. But there is no way Pelosi is going to squelch investigations into the run-up to the war and the fraud and thievery it spawned--not to mention the torture, the warrantless wiretapping, etc. She's not stupid. Unlike some people."

Thanks 282 (can I call you by your first name?) for the predictably cogent response.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: ard mhacha
Date: 09 Nov 06 - 04:36 AM

Bush Cheney Rumsfeld and everyone else connected with this parcel of murderers should be tried as war criminals, they are responsible for the deaths of countless innocents.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: GUEST,MM
Date: 09 Nov 06 - 08:45 AM

The stage has already been set for Bush, et al to get away with their murderous agenda, because the Democrats taking power colluded with the them. Which is why there will be no impeachment proceedings against Bush. The Democrats are knee deep in blood, just like their Republican co-conspirators. Pelosi and the Democratic Leadership Council led faction of the US Congress colluded with the Bush administration, and are every bit as guilty of war crimes as the administration. They voted to approve the policies, the budgets, and never did their job of oversight while in opposition.

Anyone who thinks things will be different under the Democratic leadership is sadly deluded. I'm not saying this is a mean spirited, vengeful way, either. I'm really deeply troubled by it.

As some have pointed out, those with this pathological hatred of Bush are now ignoring the many voting problems that occurred, because Bush got spanked. Which does show how shallow they are, and how little they truly care about the good of the nation. They really don't give a damn if there are voting problems, so long as their team wins. It isn't about making every vote count to these Democrats, it's about power and loyalty, just like with the neo-cons.

There is a good reason why historically, those to the right and left of liberals, view liberals with such contempt. It's their venality, their lust for power, their hypocrisy, and mafioso type behavior they use to intimidate others in order to maintain "party loyalty". The reason why they so hate the Bush admin neo-cons, is because they are so much alike.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: Bobert
Date: 09 Nov 06 - 08:50 AM

Like I've been sayin', GUEST is correct... The time for heavy liftin' for pregressives is upon us and we're gonna have to stay on top of the "new bosses" or it's gonna be "Animal Farm" all over...

Yeah, First and formost the Dems need to restore habeas corpes and right after that repeal the executives autority to wiretap without FISA oversight... These are two real biggie and I would implore anyone with even half a brain to write their new Congressperson today and voice one's concerns about these two affronts to our freedoms...

And guess what, progressives... The Dems might not be all that progeressive but I think they are a lot more approachable than the last batch of crook so...

...do it now just to let them know they ain't gonna get a pass...

You can write to them thru their various campaign committees...

I've allready writen Jim Webb...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: Maryrrf
Date: 09 Nov 06 - 09:00 AM

I for one am very impressed with Pelosi. She's intelligent, well spoken, and I'm glad she's speaker of the house.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Nov 06 - 09:05 AM

The Democrats weren't any more approachable during the Clinton administration, and Clinton never governed with majority rule. He co-opted the Republican agenda and made it his, which is what pissed off the Gingrich Republicans so badly we ended up with the abuse of oversight power by the opposition, that resulted in impeachment for a blow job.

These Democrats are the same people who gave us NAFTA, globalization, welfare reform that has resulted in the saddest abandonment of children in generations (I know, because I'm working with these kids every day), and all sorts of other problems that set the stage for political corruption on the grandest scale since the Gilded Age.

And we're supposed to have faith in these people?

No thanks.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: Bill D
Date: 09 Nov 06 - 09:56 AM

Oh, I am impressed! Two days after the election, and a couple months before transition, and the anonymous kibitzers already have worked out all the problems, and have their predictions and solutions available for the rest of us to swoon over. As my Daddy used to say, "If you're so damn smart, why ain't YOU in charge?"

Sheeesh! We've done what we could...we've tossed out a batch of the problems and set the stage for a real opportunity to slowly drag this country back to some semblance of sanity. Give it a CHANCE! Recovering from 10 years of Republican messes is not a simple, quick matter.....and we will never do it unless we work carefully, methodically, and pick a decent replacement for The Shrub in 2 years.

...and BTW...if I had the energy, I'd giggle hysterically at the idea of Nancy Pelosi being in league with the Bushites....


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: GUEST,Massuh
Date: 09 Nov 06 - 12:32 PM

For internal circulation only:

The spin campaign seems to have worked. Some liberals even believe Peliosi is ALREADY Speaker of the House. Mr. Murdoch is highly pleased that his investment has not been in vain. According to projections based on past trends, the Democrats will now wallow in masturbatory self-satisfaction until well past the House vote on Pelosi. They will then support Pelosi as she turns their attention to non-issues. The repressive legislation put into place by our Bush operatives will remain in place, and Democrats will never know the difference. Another forcible insertion may be needed in the presidential race of 2008, and we're leaning towards Hillary Clinton at this time because she's onboard with our police state agenda 100%. Of course, if a Republican is still needed in that office, our voting machines will take care of it. Kudos on a job well done.

End of transmission.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: Ebbie
Date: 09 Nov 06 - 01:25 PM

It would be VERY interesting to know what these Guests are doing to effect change and what they've done in the past. I suspect they, without exception, live in darkened rooms in the equivalent of little holes in the ground and fire off their impotent bullets in anonymity and safety, seldom venturing into the real world.

As for me, for the first time in quite awhile I feel hope.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: Wesley S
Date: 09 Nov 06 - 01:37 PM

Yes Ebbie. I love that the person who is asking us to stand up and be counted - is afraid to use a name of their own. Things that make you go Hmmmmm......??


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 09 Nov 06 - 01:42 PM

The Mudcat equivalent of wearing a burkha...Anonymous, but very much in-your-face.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 09 Nov 06 - 01:47 PM

I don't know, Kevin - it's not my face they're addressing...


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Nov 06 - 01:58 PM

Nice racist statement there McGrath--of course, not the first time for you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Nov 06 - 02:03 PM

Ebbie, I wouldn't worry. Your hope is all tangled up with the self-satisfaction and smugness of knowing your team won the playoffs.

How you feel has nothing to do with the reality of politics as usual in Washington. When Republicans win, it is politics as usual. When Democratics win, it's more of the same.

When independents shake things up, something might actually be changing. Other than that, nothing changes but the faces.

Even Peter Townsend knows that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Pelosi
From: kendall
Date: 09 Nov 06 - 02:17 PM

There will be no impeachment, and if there are any investigations they will only investigate the crimes that no democrats are mixed up in.


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