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BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!

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Subject: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: Rapparee
Date: 12 Nov 06 - 11:00 AM

The Secret Democratic Agenda was found in a briefcase left under Hillary Clinton's bed following her tryst with Nancy Pelosi at an undisclosed location somewhere in Liberal, Kansas. This will begin in January, about the same time that Laura Bush files the divorce papers citing Condi Rice as alienating George's affections.

Hush-hush Top Secret Democratic Agenda

1. Mandatory homosexuality.
2. Drug-filled condoms in schools.
3. Introduce the new Destruction of Marriage Act.
4. Border fence replaced with free shuttle buses.
5. Osama Bin Laden to be Secretary of State.
6. Withdraw from Iraq, apologize, reinstate Hussein.
7. English language banned from all Federal buildings.
8. Math classes replaced by encounter groups.
9. All taxes to be tripled.
10. All fortunes over $250,000 to be confiscated.
11. On-demand welfare.
12. Tofurkey to be named official Thanksgiving dish.
13. Freeways to be removed, replaced with light rail systems.
14. Pledge of Allegiance in schools replaced with morning flag- burning.
15. Stem cells allowed to be harvested from any child under the age of 8.
16. Comatose people to be ground up and fed to poor.
17. Quarterly mandatory abortion lottery.
18. God to be mocked roundly.
19. Dissolve Executive Branch: reassign responsibilities to UN.
20. Jane Fonda to be appointed Secretary of Appeasement.
21. Outlaw all firearms: previous owners assigned to anger management therapy.
22. Texas returned to Mexico.
23. Ban Christmas: replace with Celebrate our Monkey Ancestors Day.
24. Carter added to Mount Rushmore.
25. Modify USA's motto to "Land of the French and the home of the brave.


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: Rapparee
Date: 12 Nov 06 - 11:03 AM

Oh...there are handwritten notes about banning such songs as "Lord Randall" (for references to hunting) and "Mary Ellen Carter" (for espousing alcohol abuse).


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: katlaughing
Date: 12 Nov 06 - 11:12 AM

You forgot the annual ritual, mandated by law, of Burn Georgie in Effigy Day! Lest we forget...


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: Rapparee
Date: 12 Nov 06 - 11:18 AM

Well, it's still being worked out. But outdoor burning...I dunno...air pollution and all that, you know.


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Nov 06 - 11:30 AM

The part I like best is giving Texas back to Mexico! ;-) If anyone deserves to get something back at this point, it is the Mexicans. Hell, give 'em California and the Southwest back too, I say.


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: Amos
Date: 12 Nov 06 - 11:40 AM

Awful generous with other folks' stuff, huh, Leedle Hack?


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: Ron Davies
Date: 12 Nov 06 - 11:52 AM

That's great. What else did Rush say? I must have missed that broadcast. Maybe I should PM Teribus or pdq--I'm sure they heard it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Nov 06 - 11:59 AM

I tend to think of myself as an American (in a sense) when these matters come up, Amos, because half of my youth was spent living in the USA...and because I think of all of North America as a single entity. The political systems foisted on us are artificial impositions which divide us. I wish there were no borders at all, and a Star Trek kind of society where everyone was an equal citizen, everyone had a good standard of living, and they could all travel freely wherever they wanted to.

But quite aside from those serious thoughts, my comments about Texas and California were merely a joke in the spirit of the post that began this thread. ;-)

The fact is, Mexico has a very corrupt government, controlled by a few rich families, and they are in cahoots with the rich controllers in the USA, and the same is true in Canada. A sad situation all around.


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 12 Nov 06 - 02:56 PM

I'm puzzled by when the Democrats became coherent enough to have an agenda. I must have missed something, as the source cited in the first posting appears unimpeachable.

It is puzzling why Kathleen (Sebelius - our re-elected Kansas Gov) wasn't invited to the tryst in Liberal KS. Maybe three such "hotties" in one place would have attracted too much attention.

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: Bill D
Date: 12 Nov 06 - 03:28 PM

1. Mandatory homosexuality.

uummm....so when we sing "Way, Hey, blow the man down.." we are into a new era?


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: Peace
Date: 12 Nov 06 - 03:29 PM

Rapaire, you are long-winded about saying little has changed. And Bill: blow is just an expression.


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: pdq
Date: 12 Nov 06 - 03:31 PM

Maybe that's the pacifist answer to "blow the man up".


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: Bill D
Date: 12 Nov 06 - 03:48 PM

(yes, yes...only an expression. Until you meet someone who takes expressions literally. Very strange experience.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: Peace
Date: 12 Nov 06 - 03:51 PM

Well, it's reassuring to see that the Democrats HAVE an agenda. It seems that the Republicans have done without one for six years, and that didn't work out so good.


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: pdq
Date: 12 Nov 06 - 03:56 PM

There are more:

26. All candystripers will be required to give blowjobs 'on demand'.


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: Peace
Date: 12 Nov 06 - 03:59 PM

Make sure George gets in line for that. He is in dire need of one.


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Nov 06 - 10:50 AM

Hey, both of those parties have a very definite agenda. They just don't talk about it openly or honestly, that's all, they talk about other stuff so people will vote for them.


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: kendall
Date: 13 Nov 06 - 04:40 PM

How about national health care, a raise in the minimum wage and getting the hell out of Iraq? They seem like agenda to me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Nov 06 - 01:03 AM

Reasonable. But let's talk about the real Redemocrapublicant agenda: getting in power, remaining in power, serving their corporate masters faithfully all the while, robbing the American public blind, keeping the war industry at peak production, controlling all the oil, and looting the Third World, all for the sake of more money in their pockets! ;-)

Now, THERE's an agenda! And one with a proven track record too. Nothing exceeds like excess.


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: Old Guy
Date: 14 Nov 06 - 06:53 PM

So who do we give Canada back to? England or France?


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Nov 06 - 09:26 PM

You know, I started this because I thought the "agenda" was funny (it was originally sent to me in an email).

I'm sorry I started this thread.


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: Old Guy
Date: 14 Nov 06 - 09:41 PM

Funny around here only applies to Republicans and conservatives.

Anybody that tries to make fun of a liberal or Democrat is scorned.


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: Amos
Date: 15 Nov 06 - 09:24 AM

My experience is that around here, funny applies to (a) the intentionally humorous and (b) the stupid, regardless of other persuasions.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Nov 06 - 02:19 AM

Who do we give Canada back to? Why, the Indians, of course. Who else? ;-) The Mexicans are about 98% Indian, by the way...just a trickle of Spanish blood got mixed in.


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: Amos
Date: 16 Nov 06 - 02:19 PM

HEre's an agenda:

1. Repair and reorganize the economic infrastructure moving away from derivatives, hedge funds and gambling and restoring a fundamental industrial capability in the country, repairing infrastructure, for example.

2. Get rid of Bush, Cheney, and the rest of the high-rollers who bleed the economic structure and undermine the banking system through false baloons of wealth (disguising core bankruptcy).


3. Define a process which will make a sane withdrawal from Iraq -- not an easy task, but absolutely necessary.

4. Embrace FDR fundamentals in building a sound footing for future economics.


There's a thumbnail version of a viable agenda leading toward long-term stability.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: Old Guy
Date: 16 Nov 06 - 11:31 PM

LH:

I saw a TV program that explained how European people arrived in North America before the Asians. They traveled on hunting trips on the frozen North Atlantic ice, ventured too far, got stranded and eventually made it to North America.

It was even proven by DNA testing of supposedly pureblooded Ojibwa and other tribes.

So the Indians are intruders and that means the Mexicans are intruders.

http://www.pbs.org/saf/1406/segments/1406-4.htm

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11451616/


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: Amos
Date: 16 Nov 06 - 11:57 PM

Intruders into whose territory?


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Nov 06 - 09:06 AM

Which proves exactly what? That people came to North American via a land bridge over the Bering Sea AND via an ice bridge from Europe? There's also a lot of evidence for sea-borne immigration from Polynesia.

We fall into the trap of our beliefs and ignore new or different evidence that is found. Even Einstein did it ("God does not play dice with the Universe," he said, rejecting the evidence before him).


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Nov 06 - 11:44 AM

Heh! Interesting theory, Old Guy. My reaction is *shrug*. There are many theories about who was where "first". Native medicine people that I have spoken to on various occasions have told me that in their opinion the Bering Strait theory is only partly right...it's a fragment of the whole puzzle. They said that some of the forefathers of some of today's Native Americans came across from Asia...some came from islands in the Pacific...some came from islands in the Atlantic (Atlantis)...and still others were "always here".

I could explain more about it, but it's complicated. I think people are foolish to imagine that they have the whole answer to any subject like this just because they embrace the latest scientific orthodoxy that has been passed on to them by their present culture. They are dealing in partial evidence and a lot of guesswork.

Anyway, I was joking when I said that Canada should go back to the Indians. Canada belongs to anyone and everyone who is born here, and it's also a welcoming country to many new immigrants, and that's fine with me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: DougR
Date: 17 Nov 06 - 08:11 PM

L.H.:if things keep going as they have been, it won't be necessary for the Democrats to give Arizona back to Mexico. The daily invasion of illegals from Mexico into our state is such that they might outnumber us any day now.

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: Peace
Date: 17 Nov 06 - 08:53 PM

It is comforting to know that the Dems HAVE an agenda, secret or otherwise.

Hey, Doug, the sky is falling.


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Nov 06 - 08:57 PM

Doug, they've recently found a message from the Micmacs to the Zunis that said EXACTLY the same thing. Imagine that!


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Nov 06 - 09:41 PM

You may be right, Doug. ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: Old Guy
Date: 18 Nov 06 - 07:55 AM

It is more than a theory. Euro men were here 17,000+ years ago VS 13,000 years ago for the Asians. Therefore all this crap about the Asain Indians are the true owners of the North America is hogwash.

The Mayans, Aztecs and Incas may have migrated from Polynesia and may be the first people in South America.

Stone Age Columbus

Who were the first people in North America? From where did they come? How did they arrive? The prehistory of the Americas has been widely studied. Over 70 years a consensus became so established that dissenters felt uneasy challenging it. Yet in 2001, genetics, anthropology and a few shards of flint combined to overturn the accepted facts and to push back one of the greatest technological changes that the Americas have ever seen by over five millennia.

The accepted version of the first Americans starts with a flint spearhead unearthed at Clovis, New Mexico, in 1933. Dated by the mammoth skeleton it lay beside to 11,500 years ago (11.5kya), it was distinctive because it had two faces, where flakes had been knapped away from a core flint. The find sparked a wave of similar reports, all dating from around the same period. There seemed to be nothing human before Clovis. Whoever those incomers were around 9,500BC, they appeared to have had a clean start. And the Clovis point was their icon - across 48 states.

An icon that was supremely effective: the introduction of the innovative spearpoint coincided with a mass extinction of the continent's megafauna. Not only the mammoth, but the giant armadillo, giant sloth and great black bear all disappeared soon after the Clovis point - and the hunters who used it - arrived on the scene.

But from where? With temperatures much colder than today and substantial polar ice sheets, sea levels were much lower. Asia and America were connected by a land bridge where now there's the open water of the Bering Strait. The traditional view of American prehistory was that Clovis people travelled by land from Asia.

This version was so accepted that few archaeologists even bothered to look for artefacts from periods before 10,000BC. But when Jim Adavasio continued to dig below the Clovis layer at his dig near Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, he found blades and blade cores dating back to 16,000BC. His findings were dismissed as erroneous; too astonishing to be credible. The Clovis consensus had too many reputations behind it to evaporate easily. Some archaeologists who backed Adavasio's conclusions with other similar data were accused of making radiocarbon dating errors or even of planting finds.

Decisive evidence would have to come from an independent arena. Douglas Wallace studies mitochondrial DNA, part of the human chromosomes that is passed unchanged from mother to daughter. It only varies when mistakes occur in the replication of the genetic code. Conveniently for Wallace's work (piecing together a global history of migration of native peoples) these mistakes crop up at a quite regular rate. The technique has allowed Wallace to map the geographical ancestry of all the Native American peoples back to Siberia and northeast Asia.

The route of the Clovis hypothesis was right. The date, however, was wrong - out by up to 20,000 years. Wallace's migration history showed waves of incomers. The Clovis people were clearly not the first humans to set foot across North America.

Dennis Stanford went back to first principles to investigate Clovis afresh, looking at tools from the period along the route Clovis was assumed to have taken from Siberia via the Bering Strait to Alaska. The large bifaced Clovis point was not in the archaeological record. Instead the tools used microblades, numerous small flint flakes lined up along the spear shaft to make its head.

Wallace's DNA work suggested migration from Asia to America but the Clovis trail contradicted it. Bruce Bradley stepped in to help solve this dichotomy, bringing with him one particular skill: flintknapping and the ability to read flint tools for their most intimate secrets.

He spotted the similarity in production method between the Clovis point and tools made by the Solutrean neolithic (Stone Age) culture in southwest France. At this stage his idea was pure hypothesis, but could the first Americans have been European?

The Solutreans were a remarkably society, the most innovative and adaptive of the time. They were among the first to discover the value of heat treating flints to increase strength. Bradley was keen to discover if Solutrean flintknapping styles matched Clovis techniques. A trawl through the unattractive flint offcuts in the storerooms of a French museum convinced him of the similarities, even though five thousand kilometres lay between their territories.

The divide was more than just distance; it crossed five thousand years as well. No matter the similarities between the two cultures, the possibility of a parallel technology developing by chance would have to be considered. More evidence emerged from an archaeological dig in Cactus Hill, Virginia. A bifaced flint point found there was dated to 16kya, far older than Clovis. Even more startling was its style. To flintknapper Bruce Bradley's eye, the Cactus Hill flint was a technological midpoint between the French Solutrean style and the Clovis points dating five millennia later. It seemed there is no great divide in time. The Solutrean flint methods evolved into Clovis.

If time could be discounted, Bradley's critics pointed to an obstacle that was hardly going to go away: crossing the Atlantic Ocean in small open boats. How could Stone Age people have made such an epic journey, especially when the Ice Age maximum would have filled the Atlantic with icebergs.

Dennis Stanford returned to his earlier hunch, looking for clues among the Arctic Eskimo peoples. Despite the influx of modern technologies, he was heartened to discover that traditional techniques endured. Clothing makers in Barrow, Alaska, recognised some Solutrean bone needles he showed them as typical of their own. The caribou skin clothing the Inuit still choose to wear could equally have been made by people in 16,000BC. And for Eskimo peoples the Arctic is not a desert - but a source of plentiful sea food. If the Solutreans had the Clovis point it would have made a formidable harpoon weapon to ensure a food supply. Would modern Eskimo ever consider a five thousand kilometre journey across the Atlantic?

The answer it seems is yes - they have undertaken similar journeys many times.. Most encouraging was the realisation that Inuit people today rely on traditional boat building techniques. 'Unbreakable' plastic breaks in the unceasing cold temperatures whereas boats of wood, sealskin and whale oil are resilient and easily maintained. The same materials would have been available to Solutrean boat builders. Even if the Stone Age Europeans could make those boats, would it survive an Atlantic crossing?

Stanford believes the boats' flimsiness is deceptive. With the Atlantic full of ice floes it would be quite possible for paddlers in open boats to travel along the edges, always having a safe place to haul out upon if the weather turned in.

All this evidence was still essentially circumstantial, making the Solutrean adventure possible not proven. Douglas Wallace's DNA history bore fruit once more. In the DNA profile of the Ichigua Native American tribe he identified a lineage that was clearly European in origin, too old to be due to genetic mixing since Columbus' discovery of the New World. Instead it dated to Solutrean times. Wallace's genetic timelines show the Ice Age prompted a number of migrations from Europe to America. It looks highly likely that the Solutreans were one.

The impact of this new prehistory on Native Americans could be grave. They usually consider themselves to be Asian in origin; and to have been subjugated by Europeans after 1492. If they too were partly Europeans, the dividing lines would be instantly blurred. Dr Joallyn Archambault of the American Indian Programme of the Smithsonian Institute offers a positive interpretation, however. Venturing across huge bodies of water, she says, is a clear demonstration of the courage and creativity of the Native Americans' ancestors. Bruce Bradley agrees. He feels his Solutrean Ice Age theory takes into consideration the abilities of people to embrace new places, adding, "To ignore this possibility ignores the humanity of people 20,000 years ago."


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 Nov 06 - 11:29 AM

That's interesting stuff, Old Guy.

Does it really matter, though, who was "first" on a piece of land? No, it doesn't. It's interesting, but it doesn't matter. What does matter is that we are all human beings right now, brothers and sisters, and we might best all have enough maturity to get along and share an area of land mutually and with goodwill toward one another.

Strange how this thread was based on a joke, yet it keeps veering into a serious debate about who lived in North America first (mostly due to your efforts).

My suspicion is that there were people living in North America a very, very long time before any of the evidence you cite above occurred, but it's only another theory. I won't attempt to bore you with further details about why I hold that theory, because I don't really mind if your theory is different from mine. There's room in tbis world for lots of theories...as there is room in Canada for lots of different people. ;-)

No one will ever supply the final answer to the question of where people (such as Asians, for example) came from. We can only find evidence...partial evidence...about some of the places where they have been at various times in the past.


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: Alba
Date: 18 Nov 06 - 12:03 PM

Well Rapaire ma dear.
Funny stuff, thanks for posting it.

Even in jest the "all in the spirit of a good laugh" Democratic Agenda beats the living shit out of the presently in place (but not for much longer thank goodness) Neo-conmen's doctrine/Agenda of Hate.
                     
Jude:)


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 18 Nov 06 - 12:50 PM

That stuff of Old Guy there is interesting enough, but what's it got to do with anything? He clearly thinks it does have some kind of implications, but I just can't get my head round what it can be.

"The impact of this new prehistory on Native Americans could be grave. They usually consider themselves to be Asian in origin; and to have been subjugated by Europeans after 1492. If they too were partly Europeans, the dividing lines would be instantly blurred.!"

But what possible difference does it make whether or not you have some common ancestors with people who have occupied your home and generally pushed you around and persecuted you? Someone walks in and takes your house and puts you on the street, and then says "Not to worry mate.    Some of great-great-grandparents 20 generations ago are the same as some of yours."

Do Palestinians feel any less unhappy at what has happened to them because the people who have done it it have ancestors in common with them, who used to live in that part of the world thgousands of years ago?

It's generally thought now thought all our ancestors at one time lived in Africa. Does that somehow make the slave trade more acceptable?


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Nov 06 - 01:34 PM

Agenda of Hate

Not just neocons with that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: Alba
Date: 18 Nov 06 - 01:53 PM

Sadly Guest tis true.

Hate begets Hate:(
J


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: Peace
Date: 18 Nov 06 - 01:55 PM

Sorry. That was me in this post:

Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Nov 06 - 01:34 PM

Agenda of Hate

Not just neocons with that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Nov 06 - 02:39 PM

Ol Guy, Also the ancient Egyptians (Zep Tepi) may have gotten as far as Washington state. Their scouts/explorers certainly got as far as Australia where their hyroglyphs can still be found. When Pharoic mummies were found to have the break down remenants of cocaine in the tissues it was theorized that trade with the South American continent was possible back then. Of course the archeologist that suggested that was excommunicated by her scientific peers.

My contention is that virtual modern man (homo or not sapien) has been around for close to 100,000 years,perhaps longer. Lots of mixing has flowed under the bridge.

The wonderful research that has been done shows a trail of DNA by using the female markers that do not change is eye opening.

What it does not prove however is that other trails could have split off in very limited areas that do not follow the the large homogeneous model.


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: Amos
Date: 18 Nov 06 - 04:59 PM

One of those evil liberal lefties has finally confessed. A key piece of their secret agenda has finally reached the light of day. Read and weep for this honorable nation:


"November 14th, 2006

 

To My Conservative Brothers and Sisters,

 

I know you are dismayed and disheartened at the results of last week's election. You're worried that the country is heading toward a very bad place you don't want it to go. Your 12-year Republican Revolution has ended with so much yet to do, so many promises left unfulfilled. You are in a funk, and I understand.

 

Well, cheer up, my friends! Do not despair. I have good news for you. I, and the millions of others who are now in charge with our Democratic Congress, have a pledge we would like to make to you, a list of promises that we offer you because we value you as our fellow Americans. You deserve to know what we plan to do with our newfound power -- and, to be specific, what we will dotoyou andforyou.

 

Thus, here is our Liberal's Pledge to Disheartened Conservatives:

 

Dear Conservatives and Republicans,

 

I, and my fellow signatories, hereby make these promises to you:

 

1. We will always respect you for your conservative beliefs. We will never, ever, call you "unpatriotic" simply because you disagree with us. In fact, weencourageyou to dissent and disagree with us.

 

2. We will let you marry whomever you want, even when some of us consider your behavior to be "different" or "immoral." Who you marry is none of our business. Love and be in love -- it's a wonderful gift.

 

3. We will not spend your grandchildren's money on our personal whims or to enrich our friends. It's your checkbook, too, and we will balance it for you.

 

4. When we soon bring our sons and daughters home from Iraq, we will bringyoursons and daughters home, too. They deserve to live. We promise never to send your kids off to war based on either a mistake or a lie.

 

5. When we make America the last Western democracy to have universal health coverage, and all Americans are able to get help when they fall ill, we promise that you, too, will be able to see a doctor, regardless of your ability to pay. And when stem cell research delivers treatments and cures for diseases that affect you and your loved ones, we'll make sure those advances are available to you and your family, too.

 

6. Even though you have opposed environmental regulation, when we clean up our air and water, we, the Democratic majority, will let you, too, breathe the cleaner air and drink the purer water.

7. Should a mass murderer ever kill 3,000 people on our soil, we will devote every single resource to tracking him down and bringing him to justice. Immediately. We will protect you.

 

8. We will never stick our nose in your bedroom or your womb. What you do there as consenting adults is your business. We will continue to count your age from the moment you were born, not the moment you were conceived.

 

9. We will not take away your hunting guns. If you need an automatic weapon or a handgun to kill a bird or a deer, then you really aren't much of a hunter and you should, perhaps, pick up another sport. We will make our streets and schools as free as we can from these weapons and we will protect your children just as we would protect ours.

 

10. When we raise the minimum wage, we will pay you -- and your employees -- that new wage, too. When women are finally paid what men make, we will pay conservative women that wage, too.

11. We will respect your religious beliefs, even when you don't put those beliefs into practice. In fact, we will actively seek to promote your most radical religious beliefs ("Blessed are the poor," "Blessed are the peacemakers," "Love your enemies," "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God," and "Whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me."). We will let people in other countries know that God doesn't just bless America, he blesses everyone. We will discourage religious intolerance and fanaticism -- starting with the fanaticism here at home, thus setting a good example for the rest of the world.

 

12. We will not tolerate politicians who are corrupt and who are bought and paid for by the rich. We will go after any elected leader who puts him or herself ahead of the people. And we promise you we will go after the corrupt politicians on our side FIRST. If we fail to do this, we need you to call us on it. Simply because we are in power does not give us the right to turn our heads the other way when our party goes astray. Please perform this important duty as the loyal opposition.

 

I promise all of the above to you because this is your country, too. You are every bit as American as we are. We are all in this together. We sink or swim as one. Thank you for your years of service to this country and for giving us the opportunity to see if we can make things a bit better for our 300 million fellow Americans -- and for the rest of the world.

 

Signed,

Michael Moore "


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 Nov 06 - 05:06 PM

Heh! Nicely said.


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: Old Guy
Date: 22 Nov 06 - 06:16 AM

"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God,"

As nicely said as any asshole Liberal elitist hypocrite can say it.

Michael Moore: "I'm a millionaire, I'm a multi-millionaire. I'm filthy rich. You know why I'm a multi-millionaire? 'Cause multi-millions like what I do. That's pretty good, isn't it?"


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: Amos
Date: 22 Nov 06 - 09:26 AM

OG:

Can't stand the message if uit comes from the wrong kind of person, huh? Elitist? Michael Moore? Give me a break. He's fat, homely...and the Birchers hate his ass.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: Greg F.
Date: 22 Nov 06 - 10:08 AM

Guess I shoudn't be surprised that Fat Old Woody would call Jesus Christ an asshole Liberal elitist hypocrite.


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: GUEST,Old Fat Woody
Date: 22 Nov 06 - 07:06 PM

Greg Jong-ill would call Jesus Christ an asshole Liberal elitist hypocrite. And a fascist too.


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: Greg F.
Date: 23 Nov 06 - 06:39 PM

RE: hypocrisy: you'll find- if you look- that George Dumbya's personal fortune is many times larger than Mr. Moore's. Not to mention the Bush FAMILY fortune...

Poor old George H.W.- sonny-boy keeps ruining the toys Daddy's bought him. Like a National Guard Commission, a sports team, an oil compauny, the U.S. presidency & etc.


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 23 Nov 06 - 10:42 PM

Put a real chimp in the White House if you want things straightened out, not an ersatz chimp.


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 24 Nov 06 - 07:57 AM

Chongo,

I thought you were smarter than that- The White House?


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Subject: RE: BS: Secret Democratic Agenda Revealed!!
From: Amos
Date: 14 Nov 07 - 11:38 PM

House Clears Way to Funds for Military, With Strings
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By DAVID M. HERSZENHORN
Published: November 15, 2007
WASHINGTON, Nov. 14 — The House on Wednesday approved $50 billion of the nearly $200 billion that President Bush had requested for military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan but attached many strings to the measure, virtually guaranteeing that Senate Republicans would block it.

The strings included a requirement that troop withdrawals begin within 30 days, a narrowing of the mission to focus on counterterrorism and on training Iraqi security forces, and a goal of full withdrawal by mid-December 2008.

The bill would also require all American personnel, including C.I.A. operatives, to follow Army Field Manual rules on torture, among them a ban on waterboarding, an interrogation technique that simulates drowning without causing death.

In two hours of rancorous debate on the House floor, Republicans stressed the recent progress in Iraq while Democrats said that the political situation remained bleak and that it was time to pull out American troops.

"The sacrifice of our troops was simply not met by the actions of the Iraqi government," said Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Democrat of California. "This legislation today offers something fundamentally different than what President Bush is proposing, a 10-year war, a war without end costing trillions of dollars. It provides the tools to our troops so they can get the job done. It also presents a strategy that will bring them home, responsibly, honorably, safely and soon."

The bill was approved by 218 to 203, with 4 Republicans joining 214 Democrats in favor in a vote just before 10 p.m.


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