The Battle of New Orleans

Subject: The Battle of New Orleans
From: Roberta
Date: 14 Mar 99 - 06:17 PM

I found the lyrics for "Battle of New Orleans" recorded by Pete Seeger, Jimmy Drifwood and Johnny Horton. Can I get a recording of this for my 8th grade history class??

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From: Ronn
Date: 15 Mar 99 - 12:53 AM

Roberta-- There are many recordings available that include Johnny Horton's or Jimmy Driftwood's version of this song. I never knew that Pete Seeger had any involvement with writing it, and I do not know of any recording of it by him. I happen to be partial to the version by the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band.

Versions by any of these people should be available in any decent record store or any number of internet sources.

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From: Wally Macnow
Date: 15 Mar 99 - 07:31 AM

Jimmy Driftwood wrote it and it's available on his "Americana" boxed set recordings at Camsco Music - www.camsco.com

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From: N.C. Girl
Date: 23 Nov 99 - 04:25 PM

I am looking for "Streaming Audio" of the Johnny Horton recording of The Battle of New Orleans." It is a song my uncle sang to me as a child. I found a site a while back that did have it, but the site is no longer active. I would appreciate it, if anyone out there knows where I might find a link to this. I want to record it into my Midi Files for later use. Thanks, Sharon Dover Romanek

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From: Allan C.
Date: 23 Nov 99 - 04:34 PM

Look here for Rockin' Woman's site

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From: Allan C.
Date: 23 Nov 99 - 04:36 PM

However, none of Rockin' Woman's (Marybeth) recordings are re-recordable.

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From:
Date: 23 Nov 99 - 04:39 PM

Wally, straight from the horse's mouth just doesn't cut it anymore. Better get an New Age PR man who can work the modern process: Just praise them for some trivial thing, and then they feel good and love you, and then you can sell them anything.

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From: Betty
Date: 23 Nov 99 - 04:54 PM

I grew up in Arkansas and visited Jimmy Driftwood's house to listen to him sing as a child--he always said he wrote that song as a teaching aid in American History. Not grammar, I hope! The old fiddle tune he used is "The Eighth of January," which is the date that the Battle of NO took place: Jan. 8, 1815.

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From:
Date: 23 Nov 99 - 05:01 PM

Find the laocaion of the file eg the Temp folder in a windoze box, find the file usualy a ra type, simply mocve that file to a permanent location and rename it to myra - that simple, oh to record it run the analogue feed out to a mixer .... more fun heheheeee

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From: bunkerhill
Date: 23 Nov 99 - 10:19 PM

Thanks, Allan C., that's a great site. Sandy Paton, whose name I've seen around the Mudcat Forum, was carrying a collection of Driftwood recordings. Someone might have a link to his record company's site. Anybody remember anything about a parody Homer & Jethro did of "The Battle...?"

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From: Gene
Date: 24 Nov 99 - 12:31 AM

The Battle of Kookamonga/Homer & Jethro
Click here for - * previous H & J discussion *

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 24 Nov 99 - 02:28 AM

I'm afraid you've confused me (Sandy at Folk-Legacy) with Wally Macnow at Camsco Music. He's the one with the Jimmy Driftwood collection, among many great recordings of more traditional material. Watch the Mudcat for a blockbuster announcement about events relating to the Camsco web site and its future!

Sandy

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From: Pete Peterson
Date: 24 Nov 99 - 08:04 AM

Roberta-- no you are NOT crazy Pete Seeger DID record it with Frank Hamilton on their Folkways record "Nonesuch"-- in fact there was a posting by Frank a little while ago asking for one of the verses which he himself had forgotten! I've never heard the Jimmy Driftwood recording but certainly know the Homer and Jethro parody!

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From: arkie
Date: 24 Nov 99 - 09:55 AM

Cassettes of Jimmy Driftwood songs are also available from the Ozark Folk Center in Mountain View, Arkansas. PO Box 500, Zip 72560. The cassettes have about 10 songs, come without jackets, but are pure Jimmy. They were compiled by Jimmy before his death. Cost is $9.00 plus $2.00 shipping. There is also the everpresent sales tax of 60 cents. Arkansas has a sales tax on everything including oxygen.

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From:
Date: 06 Jan 00 - 04:25 AM

Could someone please send me lyrics to Jonny Horton's songs???

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From:
Date: 06 Jan 00 - 11:11 AM

Check out Cowpie and OLGA for most of that:

Cowpie
OLGA

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From: vikinglass
Date: 06 Jan 00 - 08:04 PM

Roberta, Thanks for your post. You've given me a blast from the past. That was one of my favorites as a child. Now you've got me wanting an old Johnny HOrton recording of that song to pass on to my kids. After 30 years I still can remember the words.......AMAZING!!!! If you find one, please send me a personal message. Thanks.

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From:
Date: 06 Jan 00 - 10:26 PM

There are a couple of sites with some information about the song...

War of 1812
Johnny Horton

If you want recordings with the song

Honky Tonk Man
Greatest Hits of Johnny Horton

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From:
Date: 06 Jan 00 - 10:32 PM

Whoops! That first link should be: War of 1812

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From: Susan A-R
Date: 06 Jan 00 - 10:39 PM

Nice timing for this site being refreshed. Isn't the tune to the song The 8th of January? I always say I'm going to play the tune on the date, and I always forget. Maybe not this year (or do I have the wrong tune entirely?

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From: jeffp
Date: 07 Jan 00 - 03:51 PM

Susan, you're right. The tune is the 8th of January. That tune holds a special place in my heart, since that was also the date I moved out of my parents' house to begin my life as an adult (sort of).

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From: Susan A-R
Date: 07 Jan 00 - 09:24 PM

Thanks for posting again Jeffp, now I am even more likely to remember to play the darned thing tomorrow. Me memory isn't what it used to be, and it has always been particularly bad about playing this tune on the appropriate day.

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From: wildlone
Date: 07 Jan 00 - 09:33 PM

There should be a progamme on channel 4 soon about the American sailors imprisoned in Dartmoor and the escape they made.

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From: Billy the Bus
Date: 02 Aug 03 - 08:08 AM

I've just been listening to our Kiwi version of this song on the wireless, so thought a thread revival appropriate.

Battle of the Waikato
Gerry Merito, 1960
"This is a Maori memory of their ancestors' actions against the British in the 19th century land wars. It helped make The Howard Morrison Quartet extremely popular in the 1960s. It is a variant of The Battle of New Orleans".

It's on the NZ Folk Song site. There's lyrics, a link to an MP3 (Which I can't hear, must get the sound system hooked up again). Also information on the Howard Morrison Quartet, and links to the NZ Land Wars, for those with an historical bent.

Kia ora - Sam

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From: Amos
Date: 02 Aug 03 - 04:16 PM

Sam:

Thanks -- I have just spent the last three hours wandering among the various accounts of the Maori strategies and fortifications during the years when they were seriously embarassing the British.   I am very impressed, and delighted to learn about this important piece of history which was completely omitted from my education.

Thanks for the lead!!


A

Subject: Lyr Add: THE BATTLE OF NEW ORLEANS (Lonnie Donegan
From: Mr Happy
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 07:35 AM

Here's Lonnie Donegan's jolly rendition:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtGI9z0L2bg

His version:

BATTLE OF NEW ORLEANS

Well, in 1814, we took a little trip
Along with Colonel Pak’n’am down the mighty Mississip'.
We took a little bacon and we took a little beans,
And we fought the bloomin’ British in a town in New Orleans.

CHORUS: Well, we fired our guns and the British kept a-comin'.
There wasn't nigh as many as there was a while ago.
Well, we fired once more and they began a-runnin',
On down the Mississippi to the Gulf o' Mexico.

Well, we looked down the river till we see the British come,
There must’ve been a hundred of 'em beatin' on the drum.
They stepped so high and they made their bugles ring.
Well, we stood beside our cotton bales and never said a thing. CHORUS

Old Pakenham said we could take 'em by surprise
If we didn't fire our muskets 'til we looked 'em in the eyes.
We stood quite still 'til we seen their faces well,
Then we opened up our muskets and we really gave 'em—well, CHORUS

Well, they ran through the briars and they ran through the brambles
And they ran through he bushes where the rabbits couldn't go.
They ran so fast that the hounds couldn't catch 'em,
On down the Mississippi to the Gulf o' Mexico.

Well, we fired our muskets 'til the barrel melted down,
Then grabbed an alligator and we fought another round.
We stuffed his head with cannon balls and powdered his behind,
And when we touched the powder off the 'gator lost his mind. CHORUS

Well, they ran through the briars and they ran through the brambles
And they ran through he bushes where the rabbits couldn't go.
They ran so fast that the hounds couldn't catch 'em,
On down the Mississippi to the Gulf o' Mexico.

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From: GUEST,Jim
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 07:54 AM

"Pakenham," the General in charge of the British force attacking New Orleans? Not "Ole Hickory?" Didn't they go down to New Orleans with "Col. Jackson" or "Gen. Jackson" instead of "Pakenham"? I know Donegan was a Brit, but you'd think he'd at least not mix up the British and American commanders.

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From: Mr Happy
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 07:57 AM

....could've been deliberate?

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From: Rasener
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 08:15 AM

Battle of New Orleans

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From: kendall
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 08:16 AM

No one brags about getting his ass kicked.

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From: Mr Happy
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 08:44 AM

My mistake, just substituted 'Jackson' for 'Packenham' in my copy.

More here:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_new_orleans

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From: Marc Bernier
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 08:54 AM

Donnegan also clearly says Bloomin' British instead of bloody british. I assume to please television sensors. Bloody doesn't mean anything bad here.

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 09:13 AM

"Bloody" could not have been broadcast back then in UK.
"Hell" probably could here, but not in US I think.(...we really gave 'em well")
Did either side get "ass kicked" Kendall?
I believe it was closer than the song suggests.

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From: PoppaGator
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 10:08 AM

Battle as NOT close; Jackson. Lafitte, and the Americans turned back the British invaders at Chalmette, so they never reached the city proper..

What no one knew at the time was that the war had already ended; the treaty had recently been signed, but word didn't get here in time to prevent the carnage.

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From: GUEST,Jim
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 10:13 AM

No, Keith, it really was a slaughter. The British attempted an unfortunate two-pronged assault on the entrenched Americans, with one of the columns arriving late (forgot ladders or some such?), leaving the frontal assault mired deep in Mississippi Delta mud, in a perfect killing field. Over two thousand British casualties, as opposed to less than a hundred American.

(This is all off the top of my head, so I may be, and probably am, wrong on the particulars.)

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From: goatfell
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 10:51 AM

over here it was recoreded by the Late Lonnie Donigan

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From: Mr Happy
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 10:53 AM

Really??

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From: goatfell
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 11:06 AM

go to youtube and type in Lonnie donigan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTKSWnWIxnM

and there you will see him doing it.

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From: Mr Happy
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 11:08 AM

Astounding!!

Do you realise the words he's singing are nonsense?

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From: Rasener
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 12:11 PM

2036 Brits killed versus 71 Yankees.

As a Brit that doesn't sound fair to me.

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From: Marc Bernier
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 12:44 PM

So, who here finds posts like Arran's amusing?

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From: Marc Bernier
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 03:29 PM

Sorry Arran. I believe my earlier comment was uncalledfor.
Marc

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From: John Hardly
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 03:49 PM

eighth of january

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From: Big Mick
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 03:57 PM

Keith, your defense of all things British is well noted in these parts. But to ignore facts is ridiculous. The British suffered 2037 casualties in this series of battles. There were 291 dead (including 3 senior Generals one of which was Packenham himself)on the British side. This included 1262 wounded, and 484 captured or missing. The Americans suffered 71 casualties, which was made up of 13 dead, 39 wounded, and 19 missing.

By anyones math, sir, that is an ass kicking.

Mick

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From: Rasener
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 04:01 PM

Maybe but we will get you one day LOL

Lonnie Donegan is God in the UK, so don't you yanks knock him.

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From: kendall
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 04:01 PM

Trivia. The British army suffered the largest single day slaughter in history. The battle of the Somme in WW 1, 57,000 dead and wounded charging German machine guns.
Brave men led by dinosaurs.

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From: greg stephens
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 04:01 PM

Big Mick: we Brits do not have asses, so by definition we cannot receive an ass kicking.What we got there, in Brit war parlance, was a bloody nose.

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From: Big Mick
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 04:19 PM

greg, you apparently also have a blatant disregard for following the rules. I am speaking, sir, of the Mudcat rule which requires a warning when making posts such as that one. You are required to warn folks to empty all body cavities that have an opening to the outside world prior to reading. As a result of your callous, and typical British arrogance, you now owe me a new keyboard and monitor, a new pair of underwear and jeans, and you must write a note my wife explaining the stain on the chair.

Do this again, and as a Site Moderator, I will consider banning you for several lifetimes.

Mick, still chuckling. That one just caught me as funny.

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From: Rasener
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 04:25 PM

LOL

Subject: RE: The Battle of New Orleans
From: PoppaGator
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 04:36 PM

What do Brits have in place of asses? There must be something holding their trousers up behind...