BS: Positive Things The Irish & British Did.

Subject: RE: BS: Positive Things The Irish & British Did.
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 07 Dec 06 - 03:41 AM

Boddingtons is gone, Grab. Mind you you were right - In it's latter years, owned by Whitbread, it did produce crap beer. It's it's early days mind you, when the water came from the underground stream that passed below Strangeways prison...

Ahhhhh.

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Positive Things The Irish & British Did.
From: GUEST,CrazyEddie
Date: 07 Dec 06 - 04:23 AM

"It's it's early days mind you, when the water came from the underground stream that passed below Strangeways prison..."
Is that what gave it its wonderful golden colour, frothy head, & rich aroma?

Subject: RE: BS: Positive Things The Irish & British Did.
From: Grab
Date: 07 Dec 06 - 08:40 AM

Is it? I know I've not seen it in pubs for a few years, but I hadn't exactly been going out of my way to find it, and Cambridge is Greene King country. Ah well, no great loss there.

Graham.

Subject: RE: BS: Positive Things The Irish & British Did.
From: GUEST,Chris B (Born Again Scouser)
Date: 07 Dec 06 - 11:27 AM

BeardedBruce needs to get out more.

Subject: RE: BS: Positive Things The Irish & British Did.
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 07 Dec 06 - 01:21 PM

I think someone else brews something called Boddingtons but the Strangeways brewery has been closed for a year or two now.

It was indeed, Crazie Eddie:-) How else do you think the inmates got their own back for the beer fumes wafting into their cells?

:D (tG)

Subject: RE: BS: Positive Things The Irish & British Did.
From: eddie1
Date: 07 Dec 06 - 01:41 PM

The typical Englishman finishes his breakfast of toast and MARMALADE, invented by Mrs Keiller of Dundee, Scotland, and slips into his RAINCOAT, patented by Charles MacIntosh from Glasgow, Scotland.
He walks to his office along an English lane, which is surfaced by TARMAC, invented by John Loudon MacAdam of Ayr, Scotland - or he drives his English car, which is fitted with PNEUMATIC TYRES, patented by John Boyd Dunlop, of Dreghorn, Scotland.
Before he acquired a car he used to travel to his office by train, which was powered by a STEAM ENGINE invented by James Watt of Greenock, Scotland.
In his office he deals with the mail bearing ADHESIVE STAMPS, invented by John Chalmers, of Dundee, Scotland, and makes frequent use of the TELEPHONE, invented by Alexander Graham Bell, born in Edinburgh, Scotland.
At home in the evening he dines on his favourite traditional ROAST BEEF from Aberdeen Angus, raised in Aberdeenshire, Scotland - and then watches an item on TELEVISION, an invention of John Logie Baird, of Helensburgh, Scotland - about JOHN PAUL JONES, Father of the United States Navy, born in Kirkbean, Scotland.
His son prefers to read TREASURE ISLAND, written by Robert Louis Stevenson, born in Edinburgh, Scotland, whilst his daughter plays in the garden with her BICYCLE, an invention of Kirkpatrick MacMillan, of Thornhill, Scotland.
It is impossible for an Englishman to escape the ingenuity of the Scots!
In desperation he turns to the BIBLE only to find that the first person mentioned in the good book is a Scot - King James VI, who authorised its translation.
He could, of course, take to drink, but Scotland makes the finest WHISKY in the world. Nearing the end of his tether he could uplift a rifle to end it all, but the BREECH-LOADING RIFLE was invented by Captain Patrick Fergunson, of Pitfours, Scotland.
Anyway, if he escaped death he could find himself injected with PENICILLIN, discovered by Sir Alexander Fleming, bacteriologist, of Dervel, Scotland, or given CHLOROFORM, an anaesthetic first used by Sir James Young Simpson, of Bathgate, Scotland.
Out of the anaesthetic his mood would not be improved if his surgeon told him that he was as safe as THE BANK OF ENGLAND, which was founded by William Paterson, of Dumfries, Scotland.
Perhaps, in order to get some peace, he should request a transfusion of guid Scottish blood so that he too would be entitled to ask -
"Wha's like us?
Damn few and they're a' deid!"

Eddie

Subject: RE: BS: Positive Things The Irish & British Did.
From: Les from Hull
Date: 07 Dec 06 - 04:54 PM

And yet you're telling us all about it on the Internet. I wonder who invented that?

Subject: RE: BS: Positive Things The Irish & British Did.
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 07 Dec 06 - 05:27 PM

And who got all the money from the oil revenue I wonder. There are some countries good at inventing things, others are good at cashing in on it:-)



DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Positive Things The Irish & British Did.
From: Shields Folk
Date: 07 Dec 06 - 06:06 PM

MARMALADE.... europe possibly Portugal
RAINCOAT.... In 1821, the first raincoat was manufactured. Made by G. Fox of London, it was called the Fox's Aquatic.
TARMAC.....The first recorded use of asphalt as a road building material was in Babylon around 625 B.C.,
PNEUMATIC TYRES.....RW Thomson invented and patented the Pneumatic Tyre
STEAM ENGINE..... In 1765, James Watt while working for the University of Glasgow was assigned the task of repairing a Newcomen engine, which was deemed inefficient but the best steam engine of its time. That started the inventor to work on several improvements to Newcomen's design. Richard Trevithick (1771-1833) built the first steam engine tramway locomotive.

I would continue but I'm getting bored..


All from GOOGLE....began as a research project in January, 1996 by Larry Page and Sergey Brin, two Ph.D. students at Stanford University, California.

Subject: RE: BS: Positive Things The Irish & British Did.
From: skipy
Date: 07 Dec 06 - 06:18 PM

Nude morris dancing, very English, very Oxforshire!
Skipy
Oh! and we don't wear bells, so we qualify for the nobells prize!
Skipy

Subject: RE: BS: Positive Things The Irish & British Did.
From: diesel
Date: 07 Dec 06 - 06:38 PM

Personally I prefer the Irish weather, a walk in the hills. the craic and wit of a stranger in the street or pub. The smile and catching the eye of an irish girl,the rhythm of the bodhran and pulse of the Irish music and overall the general live and let be attitude in Ireland as I grew up !
If it's still there in today's 'celtic rat-race' - oops tiger, economy I'm not sure, but I'm sure it is.

Failing that - see below !

Diesel

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A List of Irish scientists, engineers and inventors, people who were either born on the island of Ireland or lived and worked there for an extended period.

Vincent Barry (1908-1975), led a team that discovered a treatment for leprosy
Francis Beaufort (1774-1857), hydrographer, developed a scale for classifying wind strength
John Stewart Bell (1928-1990), atomic physicist, 'Bell's Inequalities'
John Desmond Bernal (1901-1971), X-ray crystallography
George Boole (1815-1864), inventor of Boolean algebra, the basis of all modern computer arithmetic
Robert Boyle (1627-1691), pioneer scientist, 'Boyle's Law'
Louis Brennan (1852-1932), principle of a guided missile, wire-guided torpedo
Lucien Bull (1876-1972), high speed photography, modern electrocardiogram (ECG)
Jocelyn Bell Burnell (1943- ), discovered pulsars
Nicholas Callan (1799-1864), inventor of the induction coil and discoverer the principle of the dynamo (See link: http://chem.ch.huji.ac.il/~eugeniik/history/callan.html)
Aeneas Coffey (1780-1852), heat exchanger
Nicholas Comins, binaural stethoscope
William Monad Crawford, entomologist
William Dargan, railway engineer
John Boyd Dunlop, Scotsman, pneumatic tyre
Michael Everson, expert in writing systems and Unicode, born in USA
Henry George Ferguson, engineer, designer of the modern farm tractor, inventor of the three-point hitch
George Francis FitzGerald (1851-1901), theoretical physicist, 'Fitzgerald-Lorenz Contraction'
John Robert Gregg (1868-1948), Gregg shorthand system
Sir John Purser Griffith (1848-1938) Chief engineer for Dublin port and Irish Free State senator (1922-1936)
William Rowan Hamilton, quaternions; mathematical physics
John Phillip Holland (1841-1914), submarine designer
Ellen Hutchins (1785-1815), botanist
John Joly (1857-1933), photometer, colour photography
Richard Kirwan (1733-1812), meteorologist
Arthur Leared (1822-1879), binaural stethoscope
Robert Mallet (1810-1881), seismology
Sir James Martin (1893-1981), aircraft ejector seat
Alexander Mitchell (1780-1868), lighthouse and marine engineer
Sir Charles Parsons (1854-1931), English born inventor of the steam turbine
Francis Rynd (1811-1861), doctor, hypodermic needle
George Stokes (1819-1903), mathematician, physicist, 'Stokes Theorem' and Stokes-Navier Equations'
George Johnstone Stoney (1826-1911), atomic physicist, named the 'electron' and measured its charge
John Lighton Synge (1897-1995), mathematician
William Thomson, Lord Kelvin (1824-1907), physicist
John Tyndall (1820-1893), physicist
Ernest Thomas Sinton Walton, physicist, 1951 Nobel Prize in Physics
Mary Ward (1827-1869), microscopist
John Walker (1841-1910), principle and forerunner of the caterpillar track
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Subject: RE: BS: Positive Things The Irish & British Did.
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 07 Dec 06 - 07:45 PM

The Englishman and the Irishman met the Scotsman.
Thus giving birth to the phenomenon known as 'the joke'.

If you study Shakespeare, you will realise before this groundbreaking event - they were pretty much buggered. Just feeble attempts at humour. In fact Chaucer wrote The Millers Tale, and he couldn't even speak bloody English. Nobody laughed. I was there at the time. We all said, sod off Geoffrey! That's not funny, and you can't bleeding spell.

Of course now we know know what its about.....

Subject: RE: BS: Positive Things The Irish & British Did.
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 10 Dec 06 - 03:06 PM

One important thing the Irish and British did together was to defeat the Nazi threat in WW2
True the Irish government chose neutrality but with understandable reasons and they did help where they could.
Less understandable was the IRA's active support of the Nazis and their plan to cleanse Europe of Jews.
But brave Irish lads in their tens of thousands flocked to join the British armed forces to fight shoulder to shoulder with British and Commonwealth lads.

Subject: RE: BS: Positive Things The Irish & British Did.
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Dec 06 - 08:53 PM

Didn't Irish writers save the English language from degenerating into yelps and barks?

Subject: RE: BS: Positive Things The Irish & British Did.
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 11 Dec 06 - 03:40 AM

No.
Both Ireland and Britain have produced a disproportionate number of great writers.
But no.

Subject: RE: BS: Positive Things The Irish & British Did.
From: GUEST,Penguin Egg
Date: 11 Dec 06 - 05:37 AM

The positive attitude that Divis tried to encourage by this thread seems to have degenerated into squalid and ugly ethnic oneupmanship. Grow up. Well done to those who have followed the spirit that Divis tried to engender.

Subject: RE: BS: Positive Things The Irish & British Did.
From: Divis Sweeney
Date: 11 Dec 06 - 06:25 AM

Thanks for that Penguin Egg. You do know I will be getting the blame for posting your remark and using your name (wouldn't be the first time I was accused).

Thanks for your remarks. It was meant to be a lighthearted thread.
Ah well whatever pleases them. At least some of us have moved on in our attitudes to people and life.

Subject: RE: BS: Positive Things The Irish & British Did.
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 11 Dec 06 - 06:53 AM

I would disagree Penguin Egg and Divis.
There was scope for light hearted and serious comment.
It was a nice idea for a thread on positive Anglo Irish achievements and it was nice that other nationalities wanted to join in.
The only negative posts were 6Dec 11.58 am and 10Dec 08.53 pm.
Both anon. Guest (and both anti Brit).

Subject: RE: BS: Positive Things The Irish & British Did.
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Dec 06 - 04:15 PM

Keith that post by Guest on 6Dec 11.58 is a mystery what country could he be referring to, none that I can think of, 1000 years? hmm.

Subject: RE: BS: Positive Things The Irish & British Did.
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Dec 06 - 04:21 PM

Positive things the British did last week, they voted for a Royal as the sports person of the year, a few years ago Princess Anne also was voted Sports person of the year, they were both very positive, well done.

Subject: RE: BS: Positive Things The Irish & British Did.
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 11 Dec 06 - 05:26 PM

Guest (or guests, how can we tell)
If you want an argument, please start a new thread and I am sure that someone will oblige you.
Divis offered this as a thread for the positive.
I intend to respect his wishes.
Goodnight.

Subject: RE: BS: Positive Things The Irish & British Did.
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Dec 06 - 05:44 PM

What about Billy McKinley Keith ?

Subject: RE: BS: Positive Things The Irish & British Did.
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 11 Dec 06 - 09:36 PM

On behalf of the entire english-speaking world I would like to take this opportunity to thank the English for teaching us to speak.

I also would like to personally thank the English for sending the Beatles to bring us out of the darkness. And the Irish for giving us Thin Lizzie, to show us that amplifiers are good. The Welsh for giving us Richard Burton and showing us that Shakespeare is best when uttered in a spit-barrage. The Scots for giving us an object lesson in the humility and pathos of aging in the form of Rod Stewart. And the Cornish for their tiny and delicious game hens. Thanks, all of you.

Subject: RE: BS: Positive Things The Irish & British Did.
From: Cluin
Date: 12 Dec 06 - 12:31 PM

And the Manx for their really strange cats.