BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'

Subject: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Feb 07 - 06:34 PM

In fast-breaking news today: the pejorative phrase "broke-dick mamalucca" is shortly to be officially designated as hate propaganda and banned under new anti-hate legislation, along with other infamous expressions like "n------", "c--------", and "z-----------g".

This will come as a great relief to legions of people who have suffered deep and lasting trauma and emotional damage from being called a "b------d----m------", but it will no doubt prompt vigorous challenges from a vociferous but tiny minority of people who still claim that it is their right of free speech to use this hateful label and inflict it upon others.

Expect to see a lengthy period of court challenges and high profile cases over this. It will get nasty. Those in favour of eliminating this kind of hateful rhetoric can take comfort in the certainty that when the Supreme Court finally puts its stamp of approval on the total ban that all those recalcitrant people who still insist on calling others "b-------d------m-----"'s will be incarcerated in a top security holding facility in Ohio and made to clean out old pigpens till they repent of their misdeeds.

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: artbrooks
Date: 13 Feb 07 - 06:41 PM

Well, I got "naughty" and "communist," but there are too many spaces for "zoftig."

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: pdq
Date: 13 Feb 07 - 06:46 PM

I think we should ban the Macaca arctoides (Stump-tailed Macaque). They make chimps real nervous.

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 13 Feb 07 - 06:46 PM

And too few for "zit-faced warthog".

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Feb 07 - 06:47 PM

The number of spaces, actually is arbitrary. Don't go by that. I'd tell you what the words are, but I can't, because it's forbidden to use those words now!

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: Ebbie
Date: 13 Feb 07 - 06:47 PM

Why not just subject them to silent deletion? :)

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Feb 07 - 06:47 PM

I can believe that chimps are nervous about that...

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 13 Feb 07 - 07:32 PM

Chimps are currently being silently deleted all over the world with their habitat being destroyed by the actions of Man.

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: Rapparee
Date: 13 Feb 07 - 07:54 PM

Well, if the law bans B-DMs only the B-DMs will have B-DMs. Besides, B-DMs don't cause B-DMs, B-DMs cause BD-Ms.

Or something like that. Or maybe not.

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: akenaton
Date: 13 Feb 07 - 08:12 PM

Speaking as one who has been subjected to this form of words....I can't bring myself to actually say them....I must applaude the actions of the Supreme Court and hope that people who utter this hateful phrase are "dealt with" in the strongest possible fashion

Perhaps banishment a la Martin and Clinton would be a good start.

This forum has been deteriorating over the last few years and its time for mudcatters to strike a blow for decency and the Queens English.......Down with BDM.....Ake

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 13 Feb 07 - 08:23 PM

My relatives taught me that those who resort to such hateful words

1) are TRYING to hurt you - remember 'sticks & stones' - you CAN REFUSE to be hurt if you DON'T ACCEPT the premise of their remarks.

2) are demonstrating their lack of intellect/education. The more educated/intelligent DON'T have to ACCEPT the premise of their remarks.

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: akenaton
Date: 13 Feb 07 - 08:45 PM

Thank you Foolstroupe.....I find your words a great comfort.

Hopefully before long, Joe and his posse will have identified the ringleader of the insidious cult who's mantra this phrase has become and ensured that he is no longer free to "spew his filth" over the decent citizens of Mudcatville...Ake

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: pdq
Date: 13 Feb 07 - 08:47 PM

Hey, Hey We're the Monkeys with Herpes

By Bill Manson

The macaque monkey lets a golden stream tinkle from his perch on the upended tree trunk. Maybe he's nervous. He's five feet behind the fence here in the Sun Bear Forest area of the San Diego Zoo. A group of kids lean over the railing, five feet on this side of the fence.

Ten feet, and a wire fence with large-mesh (two-inch by three-inch) wiring is all that separates these curious young humans from one of their closest cousins, India's lion-tailed macaque monkey. If the macaque chose to leap onto the wire mesh, with the kids craning their necks in towards him, the distance between man and monkey could close to a mere four feet. Easy spitting distance.

Or urine-spraying distance.

Last month, a 22-year-old primate researcher in Atlanta died when a macaque monkey she was studying squirted some fluid -- probably urine -- into her eye. She succumbed soon after to simian herpes. The herpes B virus.

Herpes B is the macaque equivalent of humans' herpes simplex. It is usually transmitted sexually among the monkeys and results in oral lesions. It is nothing more than a minor nuisance to them. But when a human contracts it, she or he can come down with potentially fatal meningoencephalitis. Seventy percent die.

So nobody in the research community was surprised at the young researcher's death. Yet everyone was shocked at how she caught the virus. Until that incident, it was believed you could only contract simian herpes if a macaque monkey bit or scratched you and drew blood. That the lab worker could become infected from a splash in the eye sent a shiver through the veterinary and zoo world.

It also raised a question relevant to San Diegans: how safe is it to leave macaque monkeys on display within a few feet of an unsuspecting public? Should the San Diego Zoo risk inviting visitors to stand within spray-range of a species known to harbor this lethal virus?

At Vilas Zoo in Madison, Wisconsin, which houses one of the largest macaque colonies in the world, zoo director Dave Hall has decided the risk is too great.

"My personal opinion is that [the macaque monkey] is probably not an appropriate species to have at the zoo, given the developments about the herpes B virus," he recently told the Wisconsin State Journal. "It does definitely make a significant impact."

Hall will soon be sending away all 150 of his stump-tailed macaques and rhesus monkeys, also of the macaque genus.

Not so San Diego Zoo. "I don't take these human tragedies lightly by any means," says Donald Lindburg, director of the zoo's behavioral division. "But every time we have an incident [such as the Atlanta death], we have people coming out with ever-more draconian measures to respond to this kind of thing. If an elephant kills a keeper -- and elephants kill more than two keepers every year [in zoos worldwide] -- we don't say, 'Let's kill all the elephants.' So we do not overreact to these kinds of situations either, and say, 'Let's kill all the macaques,' It's a manageable risk."

Lindburg, a nationally recognized expert on macaques, acknowledges that scientists don't yet know everything about ways herpes B could be transmitted. But he says that most people appear to have a resistance to it. The proof, he says, is in the figures.

"When we consider that hundreds of laboratory macaques around the world are intubated, injected, bled, or otherwise handled each day," he wrote in a 1993 editorial in Zoo Biology, a journal he edits, "the rate of exposure during 60-plus years of biomedical research must approach an astronomical figure."

Yet, he writes, most reliable figures reveal an average of one case of a laboratory worker being infected every 2.5 years over the past 60 years. And laboratory workers' contact with the monkeys is far more frequent -- and intimate -- than zoo workers'.

"Zoo personnel are rarely exposed to their animals in the ways that are considered necessary to spread the virus to humans [bites, punctures]. If I am anywhere near the mark, zoo personnel have experienced over 11 million exposures to macaques since the first human case of herpes B infection was reported in 1932. How many cases of herpes B in zoo personnel have been reported? To my knowledge, none."

To make sure that doesn't change, Lindburg says, San Diego Zoo takes extraordinary precautions with its zoo workers.

"Here in the zoo, we don't touch the animals unless they go to the hospital for some procedure, and then everybody's wearing gloves and masks. We have a different level of contact in a zoological garden than you would have in a research facility, where they do a lot of invasive kinds of techniques. They are handling the animals. They get direct exposure."

Lindburg says zoo staff also wear protective masks, gloves, and plastic lab coats when they, for example, hose out the monkeys' compound and risk being splashed by water laced with urine or feces.

Lastly, San Diego's macaques are regularly tested for the virus (it does not attack any other species of monkey). When checked three weeks ago, they all tested negative. Despite this, Lindburg acknowledges nearly 100 percent of macaques do carry the virus. It stays hidden in dormant mode until they become stressed or weakened by illness. He sees the need for "national protocols" on safety to be set by the American Association of Zoo Veterinarians and has criticized their lack of action.

Lindburg confesses to one weakness: he loves these animals. He first studied them as a graduate student in their native India. And as their forest environment shrinks, their existence on earth is in question. His major crusade is not so much to display macaques but to participate in a captive-breeding program to help keep their numbers up.

"Perhaps," he writes, "if the threat from infective macaques were visually perceived, like those from speeding autos and muggers, we would have come to terms with it by now. But in fact we are dealing with an organism so small that 100 million of them packed together could easily fit on the period at the end of this sentence."

Still, he says the zoo has no intention of copying the "paranoia" of some zoos and getting rid of its six or seven macaques at the zoo, or the troop of 16 (not on display) at the Wild Animal Park. "We have training, we have regular inspections. We feel like we're already doing everything humanly possible to protect our staff."

But what about the public? What about those macaques urinating just five to ten feet away from us, with no glass to protect us from urine spray?

"You cannot make the public dress up [in protective gear] as they come into a zoo to see these animals on exhibit. We do not knowingly put anything out there that would be a threat to the public."

He says the chances of herpes B being transmitted through the wire mesh is almost nonexistent, although he recognizes some risk always exists.

"How could you possibly be 100 percent safe unless you just totally closed those sections of the zoos or got rid of those kinds of primates? You don't go out and cut down all the trees on the ski slope because a couple of people crashed into them."

"I think that I would tend to be a little more conservative than [Lindburg] is on this issue," says Dr. Joe Kemnitz, the man in charge of the Wisconsin macaque and rhesus monkey colony that is being dispersed, at least partly because of last month's herpes B death. "My own personal position as director of the Wisconsin Primate Center is that I would not ever want one of our animals to infect a visitor of the zoo. In recognition of the fact that contracting the virus is so often fatal, even if it's a very low risk, to my mind it's a recognized risk and an avoidable risk. I think that macaques can be safely displayed in appropriately designed displays. [More Plexiglas between monkeys and public] would be one solution. Another would be simply imposing sufficient distance between the public and the animals."

Lindburg's colleague, Dr. Bruce Rideout, pathologist for the San Diego Zoo, disagrees. "From a medical standpoint," he says, "I don't think there's a big risk. The virus is not known to be transmitted by aerosol, so the kind of situation we have here should not pose a significant risk. I don't think our zoo visitors have anything to be concerned about. If they wanted to be concerned about disease problems, I'd be a lot more worried about the person standing next to me than I would be about the primates in the enclosure."

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Feb 07 - 09:06 PM

My God. It's worse than I thought.

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: pdq
Date: 13 Feb 07 - 09:08 PM

Now you see why chimps get nervous.

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Feb 07 - 09:16 PM

I do indeed. No wonder Chongo's been so uptight lately. Geez.

Foolestroupe and Akenaton, you have both tuned in perfectly to the most vital aspects of this burning issue. I, like you, trust that the dark forces that have used the BDM phrase to cowe and harass and silence decent people WILL be brought to justice, and that the unscrupulous person who has led them in that nefarious effort will finally be STOPPED from inflicting those hurtful words on the innocent.

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: Rapparee
Date: 13 Feb 07 - 11:09 PM

But...what about Boise??????

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: Amos
Date: 13 Feb 07 - 11:34 PM

Boise is the Nation's Capital of BDM. Their center, home, nesting place, spawning ground, and strange attractor. That is what.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: Rapparee
Date: 13 Feb 07 - 11:40 PM

And if they are banned, where will they go? WE sure don't want 'em.

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Feb 07 - 11:46 PM

I'm thinking they should be sent to some place where no one else wants to go. Maybe Schenectady.

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Feb 07 - 12:09 AM

Or Blind River, Ontario.

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Feb 07 - 01:38 AM

Yeah...

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: Rusty Dobro
Date: 14 Feb 07 - 03:23 AM

Where does this leave us Ms who haven't got a B-D? Hatred spreads in invidious ways.

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: John Hardly
Date: 14 Feb 07 - 06:10 AM

'brokeback mountain-dick mamalucca'

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Feb 07 - 08:57 AM

Mountain Dick is in the Idaho Legion. He's called that because he's a puny little runt, only stands 6'7" and can lift no more than 350 pounds with his left hand while lifting himself up with his right (he pulls himself up by the hair on his head). He wouldn't like the "M word" being used for him, but he's such a wimp and a wuss that he wouldn't do anything about it except sit in a corner and cry.

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: John Hardly
Date: 14 Feb 07 - 09:07 AM

Sounds like a classic case of Legionaire's Disease.

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: GUEST,Sparticus
Date: 14 Feb 07 - 09:13 AM

Pissed and broke - dick mamalucca?

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 14 Feb 07 - 04:40 PM

Subtitles, for those of us who speak English?

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Feb 07 - 12:25 PM

The term "BDM" appears to have originated in New York City, being first used there by Italian-Americans in low-life street gangs and underworld criminal organizations. As a term of abuse it was intended to denigrate and emasculate the target of abuse, normally a male, and humiliate him in the presence of his peers. The expression was then picked up by travelling salesmen, pimps, and cheap divorce lawyers and made its way to the Deep South and the Midwest, where it became a tool of those bent on character assassination and petty harassment. In recent years there has arisen a secret cabal of antisocial individuals centered in the state of Ohio who have made a fetish out of the expression BDM. It is the nefarious activities of those particular individuals that are being addressed by the forthcoming legislation. It's time they were stopped.

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: Amos
Date: 15 Feb 07 - 01:11 PM

Spoken like a world-class broke-dick Mammalucca, Little Hack!!


A

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Feb 07 - 01:33 PM

You won't be able to get away with saying those hateful words any longer after the new legislation goes through, Amos!

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: Amos
Date: 15 Feb 07 - 01:39 PM

Oh.

Well, mon cher Leedle 'Ack, I yam sure I will find some others to use, of equal weight, timbre and color!


A

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: jeffp
Date: 15 Feb 07 - 01:49 PM

Of course, it all depends on whether or not you are a natural broke-dick mammalucca.

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: GUEST,lox
Date: 15 Feb 07 - 05:41 PM

Does BDM have anything to do with BDSM?

I think we should be told!

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Feb 07 - 05:44 PM

That is a very disturbing possibility. I think you may be onto something.

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Feb 07 - 06:12 PM

Please stop! Stop this legislation NOW! If you don't everyone in Boise -- male, female, both, neither, and undecided -- won't know what to call themselves! Someone will ask, "So, what ARE you, anyway?" and the person/thing from Boise will reply, "I'm a                ."

For the sake of Boise, STOP!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: Amos
Date: 15 Feb 07 - 06:25 PM

Now, now -- Mother Nature takes care of her own. Boise will be Boise.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Feb 07 - 06:27 PM

Mother Nature hates Boise, 'cause Boise is...unnatural.

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Feb 07 - 06:35 PM

I've been to Boise...and survived. And I'm still lucid.

That should tell you something.

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Feb 07 - 09:15 PM

So have I, but I've had my shots. But, LH, how would you know if you were still lucid? And why would you go to Boise if you didn't have to?

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Feb 07 - 09:21 PM

I wanted to find out if it was as bad as they said it was.

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Feb 07 - 09:31 PM

It's not. It's a lot worse.

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Feb 07 - 09:36 PM

Well, I didn't stay long enough to be really sure about that...

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Feb 07 - 09:42 PM

Would it be possible to turn Boise into a BDM preserve of some sort? Where they could live out their lives in peace and not reproduce?

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Feb 07 - 09:53 PM

Sounds like a plan to me.

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: artbrooks
Date: 15 Feb 07 - 10:01 PM

The BDMs that even the BDMs don't want to be around are gently neutered and placed on a quiet farm outside Pocatello with others of their kind. I understand that it used to be the home of a polygamous Mormon family.

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Feb 07 - 10:06 PM

Yes. We call it "The Legion Hovel." Only not all of 'em are neutered.

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Feb 07 - 10:50 PM

You mean.....???

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: catspaw49
Date: 15 Feb 07 - 11:13 PM

As the main user of this lovely term, I would like to say I am appreciative of all this deep thought which it has brought and to all of you deep thinkers. It is worth noting of course that the term can and is applied to a variety of individuals. It can be used to poke some fun at the friendly bozo, otherwise known as the Simpleton BFD. Then there is the far more serious usage when one encounters a Real and True, No Shit, Honest to Gawd, Broke-Dick Mamalucca


Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Feb 07 - 11:38 PM

And that, folks, appears to be the definitive and final word on this sordid subject.

We need only wait for the law to be passed.

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Feb 07 - 11:53 PM

Oh? How would I find it?

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: Sorcha
Date: 16 Feb 07 - 01:17 AM

Shambles has been attacked. Little Hawk too if he wants to read it that way.

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: GUEST,Richard Mamalucca, PhD.
Date: 16 Feb 07 - 09:04 AM

I'm Dick Mamalucca, and I teach at BSU. I am not currently broke, and I will certainly object if I can't tell people who I am -- especially if at some time in the future I AM broke.

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: MMario
Date: 16 Feb 07 - 09:12 AM

you're not listed in the directory.

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: GUEST,Richard Mamalucca, PhD.
Date: 16 Feb 07 - 09:28 AM

Of course not. I just started in January and the Directory hasn't been updated yet. I might not appear until the Fall Semester, or so I'm told.

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: MMario
Date: 16 Feb 07 - 09:40 AM

typica!

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: Amos
Date: 16 Feb 07 - 10:44 AM

The reason he isn't in the Directory is because it is constrained to the subset of entities whose existence can be confirmed in ordinary space-time. Not belonging to the set, he has been excluded from the index to the set.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: artbrooks
Date: 16 Feb 07 - 10:50 AM

And anyone who would accept, and admit to accepting, a job at Boise State University has more problems than his name....

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Feb 07 - 11:56 AM

Idaho is more than Boise (thanks all the gods and goddesses!) and higher education in Idaho is LOTS more than Boise State!

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: Lox
Date: 16 Feb 07 - 11:58 AM

... Aaaahhhhhh ...

... I see .....

... so that's a simpleton BFD ...


Doesn't look very lucid to me ='P

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Feb 07 - 11:59 AM

The neat part of Idaho starts just north of Boise, as I recall. Beautiful mountain country up there.

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: Lox
Date: 16 Feb 07 - 12:02 PM

Nice crisps too yes?

(idaho ripple)

(Never mind - just another example of the crass marketing of location names in other countries to add mystique to irrelevant products)

Subject: RE: BS: Law to be against 'broke-dick mamalucca'
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Feb 07 - 03:09 PM

Yeah, LH. Nothing around here to see. Just leave your money and drive to Boise.