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GUEST,Barry Devine BS: What does patriotism mean to you? (130* d) RE: BS: What does patriotism mean to you? 05 Jul 08


Donuel, alanbit just thanked everyone for not making things personal. Maybe you could stick to that spirit?

I like some of what Obama said in his speech, am indifferent to most of it, and loathe the rest.

I'm voting for Obama not because I think he is great, but because the opposition is so god awful. NO ONE should be pledging loyalty to Obama or McCain. To do so very much misses the point of the democratic traditions or "American ideal" if you prefer, doesn't it? That we support the rule of law, not men?

The problem with partisan loyalty and loyalty to the person is the very problem the Revolutionary War was supposed to have addressed. Loyalty to the rule of men is loyalty to a monarchy.


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