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BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret

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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: Naemanson
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 10:36 PM

It's quite easy to teach a man to use the cleaning appliances around the house. Just make sure your appliances are in a nice manly black, maybe with racing stripes, and explain to them that these are not appliances but large power tools. When faced with a power tool no self respecting man could do anything else but put it to work.


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: Sorcha
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 09:53 PM

Yes, indeed. Clean and COOK!! (let's not forget sorting laundry, and knowing how to run the machines, LOL!) Esp. if Someone expects his wife to be gainfully employed.....therefore, not AT HOME!!


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: Matt_R
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 09:46 PM

Haha! Thanks goodness! PARENTS! Teach your sons to clean!! Their wives will love them!


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: Sorcha
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 09:30 PM

Nah, matty, just 27 years of marriage and 2 kids kicking in, sweetie!I know you clean kitchens, so you are exempt from sarcasm!!


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: Matt_R
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 09:28 PM

No need to be hostile, Sorch!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: Sorcha
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 09:23 PM

A REALITY CHECK FROM SPAW???!!!! GOTTA BE A FIRST, NO???

Another reality check here, from MomSorcha--ya know, guys, all we really ever want is for Stuff to be Noticed and Acted Upon........ie, garbage full--carry it out w/o being asked. Grass too tall? Cut it,w/o being asked. Seat up/down--no prob, really. Just fix it to suit yourself as long as you don't pee on the floor....if you do, clean it up. Your "stuff" all over the house so we can't clean/vacum? PICK THE DAMN STUFF UP AND PUT IT AWAY!! (w/o being asked/told/nagged)
Somehow, guys (sic) tend to equate being asked with being nagged.......If you don't notice and function, WHAT THE HELL ELSE ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO? Get a ferret? Well, really, I ask you.......(and I don't need a ferret, thank you very much--I have 4 cats,2 dogs, 2 male humans and one adolescent human female in my house--quite enuf shite if you ask me.......which you didn't.)


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: Naemanson
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 09:07 PM

Oh right, inject a little reality into the thread! Thanks a lot, Spaw! Get us running and then try to steer us into a reality we could not possibly live up to!


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: CarolC
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 09:03 PM

P.P.S. Thanks, Spaw. Merry Christmas.


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: CarolC
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 08:54 PM

...so anyway, it looks like Joe Offer, Naemanson, and Chanteyranger have kindly offered themselves as possible candidates.

How could I possibly choose only one of three of the best men in the Mudcat?

Although I do like your persistance, Naemanson. (And the though of you running up my pant leg and making me laugh.)

What I was actually referring to in the other thread was whether or not to take a semester off from school and whether or not to buy a car. And also what I want the direction of the whole rest of my life to be. Haven't got a clue.

Anybody got any suggestions on any of that?

Carol

P.S. You guys are great!


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: catspaw49
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 06:54 PM

......oooooo boy...................

Interesting how a thread goes isn't it? This one seems to have gotten some interesting responses and even a piece of real sage advice from Bill D. But, uh........Ya' see, Carol never said a thing about a boyfriend OR a ferret. What Carol said on the other thread was this:

My very good friend, Ela, who lives in Maine (U. of M. at Orono) will be coming to visit me and spend New Year's Eve with me (weather permitting). My friendship with Ela is one good lasting thing I got out of my second to last significant relationship (with her father). It's always a treat to get to spend time with her.

For 2001. Boy, that's a tough one. I honestly don't know in which direction I need to move during the upcoming year. So I guess my first goal is to try to get some clarity about what comes next.

Well, me being a bit warped and liking to play with words, I responded:

Well here's a thought Carol.......You could get to working on making Ela's father your third to last significant relationship. Or maybe you could buy a ferret. Your choice, but something to consider.

The ferret bit was once again the silliest thing I could think of as a juxtaposition. And since I thought it was funny, I also thought, "Why not start a thread?"........Not a grain of truth to be found of course..........

Just shows that we'll talk about anything at any level for any reason. Gawd, I love this place!!!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: Naemanson
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 05:43 PM

Back in the bad old uneducated days I used to get a lot of mileage out of "yes, dear." Unfortunately that also earned me some bruises. I think it was the whiny tone...

Anyway I have learned my lesson and now I know exactly what to say and when to say it. And if you think I'm going to give ammunition like that to my competitors you have another think coming.

You know, Carol, a kitten and a man would be a good combination. And, hey, I have a kitten right here! Well, OK, she's more of a full grown cat, and she isn't very friendly...


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: Amergin
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 05:22 PM

hey, Matt, I used to get into arguments with my ex (weird saying that) over that....she wouldn' let me do anything for her when she was sick and I would get a little upset....only once did she let me and she was very sick then. I just wanted to say, lad, that I know exactly how that feels.

Amergin


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: Matt_R
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 05:17 PM

Morty, the answers are a, a, and b. My girl is sick with a fever right now, I wish I could cook her dinner and rub her feet and buy her shiny things, and do the dishes an laundry for her!


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: Bill D
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 05:10 PM

deep analysis of basic issue:..hope it's not too serious for this crowd

you can 'get' (as in "go shopping for") a ferret...and if you buy one, then you are sort of committed, but you know how this goes.

you don't just 'get' a boyfriend...you meet people, some of whom are men, and you explore, muse, peruse and enjoy as best you can and perhaps become friends...if one of them fits 'boyfriend' status, it will become obvious...*grin*...BUT...if you are perceived as 'shopping' for a BF, you tend to attract the wrong kind..(have watched this process several times..*sigh*)

so... a BF who likes both you & ferrets could provide HOURS of entertainment, but only the ferret aspect is likely to be immediately obvious...people are just too complicated,,*wry smile*

(oh, yeah...the important part!..you find the RIGHT people by going places and doing what you like to do...if that's playing pool and smoking & drinking, then go to a bar...if it's reading, go to a library...if it's music, well...various choices..etc.etc...the right ferrets are at a decent pet store...but you knew that...*wink*)


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: GUEST,Melani
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 04:47 PM

Carol, I personally favor rats--the furry kind with tails, that is.


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: catspaw49
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 04:43 PM

Very good Mort!!! I think that men can be trained as you all have noted and one of the most useful phrases (suggested by Blake Clark) they can learn is:

"Yeah, you're right, I'm sorry."

This one works in a large variety of situations and can be used in about 90% of the situations such as.......

"You forgot to take the trash out again and the garbage truck has already gone."
"The grass looks awful."
"We never go out anymore."
"You spend way too much time _____________."
"You need to get some exercise."
"You left the toilet seat up again.

See? Very useful and easily learned by most men. A word of caution though, yopu DO have to have at least a minor grasp on what is being saic or else the phrase could make matters worse. Such as:

"This dress makes me look fat."

This type of thing cannot be learned by a ferret, although the listening skills required cannot be learned by some men.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: Morticia
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 04:22 PM

Or try these, gentlemen.....,b>If you see a toilet paper spindle empty, do you
a) refill it
b)panic and use the other bathroom for a few days
c) a what? The love of your life has had a tough day, do you
a) cook her dinner and rub her feet
b) offer to take her out to dinner
c)my cars had a tough day?
You decide to buy your lady a present, do you choose
a) flowers and chocolates
b) something pretty and shiny from the jewellers?
c) a new lawn mower
Answers on the back of a five pound note to Morticia please, those with the correct answers will have their names forwarded to Carol.C, other submissions forwarded to Germaine Greer or the NYCFTTS as appropriate.


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: Naemanson
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 03:32 PM

I don't think that is such a good example, Troll. Washing dishes is something a lot of male Mudcatters have confessed to. Try this one instead. When you walk out of the bathroom, what is the position of the toilet seat? This is a point on which the Mudcat women would more likely focus as an example of whether or not men can be trained.

Ferrets always leave the seat up!


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: Troll
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 03:27 PM

Get both. A ferret can be trained to use a litter box and a man can be trained to be helpful and (somewhat) sensitive to your needs.
It can be done.The Memsahib did it to me. But I'm damned if I know just HOW she did it. All I know is, I just washed, dried, and put away all the dishes from a monster dinner.
She went shopping.
It was MY idea!

troll


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: Rich(bodhránai gan ciall)
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 02:06 PM

I think we should leave it up to the state of Florida to vote on it. Carol can have her new game plan for 2001 some time in mid-2002.

Rich


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 01:13 PM

Matt_R: Probably because you rise to the bait so well, Matt.

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: Matt_R
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 11:02 AM

Damn. Make that "why".


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: Matt_R
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 11:01 AM

Kendall, I haven't picked a fight with you in months. We are you trying to annoy me?


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: Cap't Bob
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 10:05 AM

Get a man who ~ likes to eat pickled garlic ~ poops in various corners of the house ~~ will tolerate being caged for extended periods of time ~~~ likes to dig holes in carpets (especially under doors) ~~~~ chews the rubber tubing off the bottom of instrument stands - - - - THEN YOU CAN HAVE THE BEST OF BOTH.

Cap't Bob


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: Peter T.
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 10:03 AM

I think it is time that you broke out of the traditional thought patterns, CarolC. This ferret/man dilemma is so boring, it is like, old. It is time to try a new dilemma, or even a trilemma. Why not have to be forced to choose between a heron/ballerina/steak knife? Or, one of my favourites: grave robber/30 minutes with a shopping cart in the sex store of your choice/retired road manager for Queen? And then the classic: distraught lesbian/man camped in middle of roundabout for 6 weeks/Isis.

It is a new century. Time to expand your horizon of choice....
yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 09:53 AM

CarolC said: "I just don't know what to do."

If you like, you may borrow my A-1, M-1, Handy-dandy, Decision-making machine. If you don't recognize it by that title, some folks refer to it as a quarter.

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: kendall
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 09:40 AM

"US" guys, Matt?


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: GUEST,LynnT
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 09:17 AM

The Phillipine stuff is Baloot, not bluke -- it's fermented partially-developed chicken embryos, sold in the shell by street vendors. At least to this Westerner, the texture was every bit as revolting as the smell (think little cartilaginous bits in glue). I'm a Navy officer, and I encountered the stuff as part of "Truth Serums" administered to the junior-officer Defense Attorneys in old-style Chief's initiations some 20 years back. Haven't quite forgotten it yet.

Re housebreaking of men and ferrets: At least the ferrets are straightforward about it, and CAN be taught to use a litter basket, cat-style; the men let you THINK it may eventually be possible...

Lynn


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 09:08 AM

....here, maybe? Methinks there are many rational and progressively forward thinking members of the male persuasion (who also turn an eye to the 'traditional' perspective on things) that frequent these threads. The old saw comes to mind about the thing you're looking for often being right under your nose....

As for getting one of them to follow you home...hmmm. Just be yourself, that should suffice - and woo him with sweet strains of music from your accordion. If you take RichM's advice and opt for both, get the man to take care of the ferret for you.


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: Naemanson
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 08:55 AM

Actually I make a pretty good chicken soup and have received compliments on my back rubs.


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: CarolC
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 08:43 AM

Guest, you have a very compelling argument. Where do these particular men hang out, and what do I have to do to get one of them to follow me home?


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: RichM
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 08:23 AM

Get a man.
Get a ferret.
Not necessarily in that order. You CAN have both!


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 08:16 AM

A ferret may, in the long run, be better company and less of a problem, but sexist-ly speaking, you won't ever coerce a ferret to take out the garbage or change a flat tire. Need a box of books or a piece of furniture moved from one corner to the other? You'll have better luck getting a man to do that. And in keeping with the season, if you're taken with a cold or the flu, a man may be persuaded to prepare some consomme and bring it to the sick bed, whereas a ferret - well, you get the drift. Of course, there's always a trade-off. It depends on your priorities....


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: Naemanson
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 06:30 AM

Life is short and eternity long,
Life ain't no fun if you handle it with tongs,
Ya gotta jump in, get some dirt on your hands,
So to hell with the ferrets, git yerself a man!

Besides, if you re-read my first post here you'll notice my coments about ferrets being weasels. If you choose the right man you can have both!

Unfortunately I can't help you on being both but maybe some of the others here... *BG*


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: CarolC
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 03:30 AM

Having lived with both men and ferrets, I have to say I tend to lean slightly in favor of men. However, so much wisdom has been imparted on this thread, most of it in favor of the ferret.

I just don't know what to do.


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: zander (inactive)
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 03:10 AM

Sorry to dissapoint you Wildlone, you can no more housetrain a ferret than a man. Cheers, Dave


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: Peter Kasin
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 02:20 AM

Well gee, Carol C., I'll throw my hat in the ring. Hope the ozone hole doesn't do a number on me without my hat...


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: mousethief
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 01:21 AM

I've never had a boyfriend or a ferret, so I really can't help you a lot, I fear. I've had a pet rat, which was a delight, and two wives, one of which is a delight and the other of which was a pain in the ass.

Time to use your lifeline.

Alex


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: catspaw49
Date: 28 Dec 00 - 12:21 AM

If you want to talk about bad odors how can you rule out men?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: Naemanson
Date: 27 Dec 00 - 11:16 PM

If you want to talk about bad odors let's talk about a potato house in July, still full of last year's potatoes, growing sprouts and rotting, and stinking to high heaven.

Note: In Aroostook County, Maine, a potato house is where a potato farmer stores his crop before selling it for french fries, bakers, or starch.


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: Sorcha
Date: 27 Dec 00 - 11:15 PM

Bluke is sort of like 1,000 yr old eggs......and I think it is the capacity of the critter----save us if ferrets put out as much as pigs......


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: MMario
Date: 27 Dec 00 - 11:12 PM

gypsy, I agree.


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: Gypsy
Date: 27 Dec 00 - 11:06 PM

Ummm....creep, creep, creep. I'll put up hogshit as the worst smelling, over ferret debris! Or is it the capacity of a hog to eliminate?


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: Matt_R
Date: 27 Dec 00 - 08:22 PM

Try Bondo fumes...they're pretty insane. But come on...us guys aren't THAT bad, are we?


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: flattop
Date: 27 Dec 00 - 08:22 PM

You stumped me on that one.


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: Sorcha
Date: 27 Dec 00 - 08:20 PM

nothing, not even Filipino "bluke"......


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: flattop
Date: 27 Dec 00 - 08:17 PM

Nothing?


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: Sorcha
Date: 27 Dec 00 - 08:08 PM

You could also deep six both ideas and get a new computer....less care and feeding of either of the above. I always thought ferrets were so soft looking, then I got to touch one.....worse than a wire haired terrier, and they stink badly, even when de scented......NOTHING is worse that ferret poop.


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: wildlone
Date: 27 Dec 00 - 08:03 PM

Get the ferret.
At least you can housetrain them


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Subject: RE: BS: CarolC's Decision:NewBoyfriend or Ferret
From: hesperis
Date: 27 Dec 00 - 03:38 PM

Get a hamster.

Boyfriends are a lot of work.


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