BS: Down Syndrome women used as bombers

Subject: RE: BS: Down Syndrome women used as bombers
From: Bobert
Date: 01 Feb 08 - 08:33 PM

The propaganda is comin' outta Washington...

I don't really care how officail the news reports look, they are all "cooked books" reporting these days, folks...

Every major news department in the US has cut funding for news in the last few years...

Why???

Because it doesn't turn a profit...

So what we get is the company fight song sung in whatever key fits ya'...

I would bet the farm that this is another lie... Oh yeah, the lies are gettin' more gloss to make them look beleiveable but a lie is a lie is a lie...

The reason that Bush is making every possible effore to twist the events on the ground in Irag is that he has to... Yes, has to... This game is winding down and he is trying to get folks to think that ********The Surge********* is working...

Bull!!!

**********The Surge********** is another lie... Paying the Sunni's not to kill US ain't victory... It is a collasal drain on the US Treasury... That what this is all about... Of course you can get the numbers down if you have enough friggin' cash to buy off the folks who want you dead???

Where is the victory there???

So when something like these bombinf occur, Bush can't allow the American people to think for ***one friggin minute*** that *********The Surge********* ain't workin' so his PR folks rev up yet another line of bullsh*t....

Oh, and for the record, the Iraqis never threw the babies out of the incubators in Kuwait...

Lie, lies and more lies....

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Down Syndrome women used as bombers
From: Sorcha
Date: 01 Feb 08 - 08:27 PM

Yes. Either way, lie or truth, it's just vile.
A New Low shall we say.

Subject: RE: BS: Down Syndrome women used as bombers
From: Peace
Date: 01 Feb 08 - 08:24 PM

"I wholly agree, Villan, with the same personal reason as you have to reinforce my feelings."

Ditto, guys.

Subject: RE: BS: Down Syndrome women used as bombers
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 01 Feb 08 - 08:10 PM

I wholly agree, Villan, with the same personal reason as you have to reinforce my feelings.

And that's true either way. Making use of these poor women as mere instruments is despicable, whoever might be doing it and for whatever reason, killing or propaganda..

Subject: RE: BS: Down Syndrome women used as bombers
From: Rasener
Date: 01 Feb 08 - 08:03 PM

If it is true, then all I can say is "You weak livered scumbag bastards"

I have a special needs daughter and the thought of somebody doing that with my daughter just appalls me.

Subject: RE: BS: Down Syndrome women used as bombers
From: Peace
Date: 01 Feb 08 - 08:02 PM

"If is is yet another Bush PR stunt, then Bush should be impeached..."

There are worse things for which he should already be impeached.

Subject: RE: BS: Down Syndrome women used as bombers
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 01 Feb 08 - 07:59 PM

I can't see where the advantage would lie in doing it this way - genuine suicide bombers are evidently not too hard to recruit. I have a suspicion that these poor women might have been among the victims of this murderous atrocity, and the story that's been put out is somebody's idea of a clever bit of black propaganda.

Either way they are dead, along with a lot of other innocent people.

Subject: RE: BS: Down Syndrome women used as bombers
From: Peace
Date: 01 Feb 08 - 07:55 PM

http://ukpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5jiH8JaSTeM_Repryn4z-tPht03Vg

http://www.kgan.com/template/inews_wire/wires.international/29824de5-www.kgan.com.shtml


Articles about it, Bobert.

Subject: RE: BS: Down Syndrome women used as bombers
From: Nickhere
Date: 01 Feb 08 - 07:47 PM

Emma: "If I had a God like those who post here witness I would howl!"

eh?

Subject: RE: BS: Down Syndrome women used as bombers
From: Bobert
Date: 01 Feb 08 - 07:46 PM

If is is yet another Bush PR stunt, then Bush should be impeached...

Yeah, the problem with the PR crap that the Bush people have gotten away with for 7 long years is that it always hits its mark but when it is found out to be just another friggin' lie that has been devised to keep people all pissed off then the tretarctions are buried on page A-17...

Here is my suggestion... Assume it is a lie... No matter how disgusting, it most likely is just that... Bush and his "Surge", which BTW is another bigass lie, want you folks to think what ***he*** wants you to think...

If I had to rawe this one on the credibility chart I'd give this one about a 1 in 20 chance of being the truth...

But if you want to believe it, go ahead... It's supposedly a free country and that means that you can believe the sky is green if you like...

So have at it...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Down Syndrome women used as bombers
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 01 Feb 08 - 07:33 PM

If it's true it's vile.

If it's false that's vile.

And the fact we can't honestly tell which of those is the true one is vile.

Subject: RE: BS: Down Syndrome women used as bombers
From: Melissa
Date: 01 Feb 08 - 07:31 PM

Whether the story is true or propaganda, it's disgusting.
Either way, it's sick and twisted.

Subject: RE: BS: Down Syndrome women used as bombers
From: Bobert
Date: 01 Feb 08 - 07:27 PM

Ummmmm???

First it was WMD's...

Aluminum tubes...

Uranium cakes from Niger...

Saddam is a bad man...

etc., etc...

Hey, I flat out don't believe the media anymore becasue they are no longer journalists but messengers for Bush's PR folks...

Anyone who believes this story should contact me immediately 'cuase I ahve a bridge to sell..

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Down Syndrome women used as bombers
From: LilyFestre
Date: 01 Feb 08 - 07:22 PM

This is just SO wrong.

Subject: RE: BS: Down Syndrome women used as bombers
From: kendall
Date: 01 Feb 08 - 07:12 PM

On the other hand, considering that my government has lied to us so often, how do they know the women were mentally challenged? They had to know before hand. So. How do they know?

Don't forget, if a Muslim dies in defense of Islam against the infidel, they go directly to heaven. It's THEIR belief system that motivates them, not ours.

Subject: RE: BS: Down Syndrome women as bombers
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 01 Feb 08 - 05:35 PM

These women cannot have been willing attackers. One of my uncles had Downs Syndrome and he would not have been able to make a decision to be a suicide bomber. It is definitely not a suicide bombing.

Actions like this make me so sad; they are using and killing vulnerable and innocent people. It is cowardice of the worst form.

Subject: RE: BS: Down Syndrome women as bombers
From: Sorcha
Date: 01 Feb 08 - 04:48 PM

Or any god, goddess, no matter what the name. Sickening.

Subject: RE: BS: Down Syndrome women as bombers
From: Rapparee
Date: 01 Feb 08 - 04:19 PM

If 'tis true, 'tis more than a pity. It is a crime for which the perpetrators deserved to be eternally ground between the teeth of Shaitan.

Subject: RE: BS: Down Syndrome women as bombers
From: Wesley S
Date: 01 Feb 08 - 04:17 PM

CNN's version of the story here

Subject: RE: BS: Down Syndrome women as bombers
From: Emma B
Date: 01 Feb 08 - 03:56 PM

It was reported on the news in the UK; the women were described as 'mules' - unknowing and 'disposable weapons'

Just one more atrocity in an ocean of atrocities.

If I had a God like those who post here witness I would howl!

Subject: RE: BS: Down Syndrome women as bombers
From: Bee
Date: 01 Feb 08 - 03:07 PM

Agreed. Any one who could do this is indeed scum, regardless of motive.

Subject: RE: BS: Down Syndrome women as bombers
From: Wesley S
Date: 01 Feb 08 - 03:01 PM

You're right. Suicide is not the proper word. They were used as if they were suicide bombers but they were just delivery systems. That makes the people who used them scum sucking pigs regardless of the reasons or justifications used.

Subject: RE: BS: Down Syndrome women as bombers
From: Don Firth
Date: 01 Feb 08 - 02:58 PM

Some years ago, my wife and I attended a peace conference over a Fourth of July weekend at the Seabeck Conference Center out on Hood Canal. Beautiful pastoral setting, a perfect place for such an event. Barbara and I arrived in the morning of the first day of the conference, and at lunch, we shared a table with a young woman who had a daughter, about three years old, I would guess, who had Down's Syndrome. Her condition was apparent from her facial features, and she couldn't talk, but it soon became evident that she was a sweet, happy child.

We saw the child and her mother many times over that weekend, and as I went from meeting to meeting in my wheelchair, every time the child saw me, she would come running down the path or across the lawn, crawl up in my lap, and give me a big hug while her mother stood by. She and I would smile at each other while the little girl clung to me and I hugged her back.

Whatever life had in store for this little girl, I felt that she had one very important thing going for her. She was a little bundle of love. Pure, unconditional love. It's so rare that you actually experience something like that. I've never forgotten her, and I never will.

When I read that story, I thought of the little girl, and I'm having a hard time dealing with the way it made me feel. I'm having a hard time reconciling the feeling of simple, open love I received from her with the fury that overwhelmed me at the thought that there are people in the world who would take someone like this innocent little girl and use her as a weapon.

Hell can't be hot enough!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Down Syndrome women as bombers
From: Peace
Date: 01 Feb 08 - 02:49 PM

From 29/40 TV News (I think).

'BAGHDAD -- The chief Iraqi military spokesman in Baghdad said the female bombers who killed nearly 70 people Friday in separate attacks on two markets in the Iraqi capital may not have been willing attackers.

His office said the female bombers apparently had Down syndrome [alternatively called trisomy 21 or Down's Syndrome]. And officials said the explosives were detonated by remote control.

In the first attack, police said a woman detonated explosives hidden under her traditional black Islamic robe, killing at least 46 people.

As many as 22 others died when a second female suicide bomber struck a bird market in a southeastern Baghdad.

Iraqi President Jalal Talabani said the attacks were committed by terrorists motivated by revenge, and hoping to show that they "are still able to stop the march of history and of our people toward reconciliation."'

Subject: RE: BS: Down Syndrome women as bombers
From: PoppaGator
Date: 01 Feb 08 - 02:42 PM

Since the explosive devices were equipped with remote control, is "suicide" really an operative term in this case?

More like outright murder, seems to me...

Subject: RE: BS: Down Syndrome women as bombers
From: Riginslinger
Date: 01 Feb 08 - 02:33 PM

Okay, I'll admit, it was a rotten thing to say...

Subject: RE: BS: Down Syndrome women as bombers
From: Big Mick
Date: 01 Feb 08 - 02:20 PM

I knew it wouldn't take long. Listen Rig, I am opposed to this war and have been from the git go. But there is no justification for this, none.

Mick

Subject: RE: BS: Down Syndrome women as bombers
From: Riginslinger
Date: 01 Feb 08 - 02:15 PM

What about a mentally handicaped president invading the country to begin with?

Subject: RE: BS: Down Syndrome women as bombers
From: Big Mick
Date: 01 Feb 08 - 02:15 PM

I want to hear the whole story, but if this checks out, it is as low as it gets. I cannot imagine what justification the apologists will use if this is true. Disgusting.

Subject: RE: BS: Down Syndrome women as bombers
From: Peace
Date: 01 Feb 08 - 02:14 PM

Wesley, that is one of the very few news articles I've ever read that made me want to puke.

Subject: BS: Down Syndrome women as bombers
From: Wesley S
Date: 01 Feb 08 - 02:09 PM

This has got to be a new low in "warfare". Despicable.

Down Syndrome women used as suicide bombers