BS: Who will win the World Cup?

Subject: RE: BS: Who will win the World Cup?
From: Declan
Date: 18 Jun 02 - 10:10 AM

Quarter final line up :

England v Brazil Germany v USA Turkey v Senegal South Korea v Spain

Not many would have predicted those four games at the start of the tournament.

I think the winners of England Brazil match will be the favourites to win the competition, but in many ways its one of the most wide open tournaments ever, and there'll probably be a few more shocks before the end.

Subject: RE: BS: Who will win the World Cup?
From: Mad4Mud
Date: 18 Jun 02 - 10:09 AM

It's tempting to bet on Senegal just for the odds!

Subject: RE: BS: Who will win the World Cup?
From: Mad4Mud
Date: 18 Jun 02 - 10:09 AM

And Spain.

Subject: RE: BS: Who will win the World Cup?
From: Mad4Mud
Date: 18 Jun 02 - 10:08 AM

Germany's still in too.

Subject: RE: BS: Who will win the World Cup?
From: catspaw49
Date: 18 Jun 02 - 10:03 AM

Yeah....Korea.......Who just sent another favorite to the showers.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Who will win the World Cup?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 18 Jun 02 - 10:02 AM

SO, who's still in? Turkey, the US, Senegal (GO SENEGAL), Brazil? I must be missing some...

Subject: RE: BS: Who will win the World Cup?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 17 Jun 02 - 08:57 PM

Which makes the analogy even more accurate. (Though it's still the All Ireland, both Hurling and Gaelic Football.)

Subject: RE: BS: Who will win the World Cup?
From: Big John
Date: 17 Jun 02 - 08:56 PM

We (THE IRISH) have our World Cup Final in Phoenix Park at 6 p.m today (18.6.02). (It is now 1.50 am. here) . The amazing thing is that thousands of "FANS" who three weeks ago would have erected a gallows in Phoenix Park to hang Mick McCarthy will be there tomorrow to give him and the BOYS a HERO's Welcome. And of course we have the complainers who think the celebration should be held in Dublin city centre where 100,000 people can congregate around one bus carrying thr heros. My "choice" for the winning team is Italy. They had 4 disallowed goals in two matches, three of which were borderline. Those guys CAN score goals.

Subject: RE: BS: Who will win the World Cup?
From: firínne
Date: 17 Jun 02 - 08:17 PM

McGrath......Hurling is hardly even 'all' Ireland. There are plenty of counties where hurling wouldn't be the main game, it would be gaelic football instead.

Subject: RE: BS: Who will win the World Cup?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 17 Jun 02 - 08:03 PM

I sometimes wonder why it is Ireland doesn't have a "World Series" of Hurling instead of a prosaic old "All Ireland Series"?

As for the World Cup - Brazil, or whoever beats Brazil.

Subject: RE: BS: Who will win the World Cup?
From: DougR
Date: 17 Jun 02 - 07:43 PM

I'm saving my predictions for the World Series (The DBacks will be repeating of course).

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Who will win the World Cup?
From: catspaw49
Date: 17 Jun 02 - 06:44 PM

I figure we have it wrapped up now......We'll play Senegal for the Cup and win 4-1.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Who will win the World Cup?
From: Mad4Mud
Date: 17 Jun 02 - 06:33 PM

I would LOVE to know the answer to this question as I'm off to Las Vegas this weekend and plan on making some bets on the World Cup!

Subject: RE: BS: Who will win the World Cup?
From: GUEST,Mike Strobel
Date: 17 Jun 02 - 12:51 PM

USA over Italy in a squeaker............

Subject: RE: BS: Who will win the World Cup?
From: C-flat
Date: 17 Jun 02 - 11:49 AM

Well Bill D, Your right of course. It IS just a game. Although I seem to remember another "Bill"(Shankly) saying during a post-match interveiw

"Football isn't life or death.........It's far MORE important!"

C-flat(just kidding)

Subject: RE: BS: Who will win the World Cup?
From: Ebbie
Date: 17 Jun 02 - 11:38 AM

Yep. Winning 'five out of the last four' is tricky. :)

Subject: RE: BS: Who will win the World Cup?
From: NightWing
Date: 17 Jun 02 - 11:19 AM

I'm curious why GUEST, Jim Jones, thought that Mexico should handle the US so handily (sorry, unintentional pun there). Before this morning's game, the US had won four of the last five meetings with Mexico. And that's with the generally VERY strong crowd support Mexico gets, even when playing here in the States. Now it's five of the last four.

Now if only I could have a hope of an upset over Germany ... but I wouldn't bet on it. *sigh*

BB,
NightWing

Subject: RE: BS: Who will win the World Cup?
From: Bill D
Date: 17 Jun 02 - 11:11 AM

it is NOT 'important' in the way some folks want it to be...

it is wonderful when your team does well, and it is exciting watching some of the best teams in the world compete, but in any single game (as we have seen), the 'best' team may not win......If Portugal were to play the US and Korea 10 times each, they might win 7-8 of the 10. This time they didn't. (And the US might beat Poland 7 of 10...they didn't this time)

Therefore is is worse than ludicrous for people to connect the depths of their souls and national pride with what happens on a football field!!! Be happy, pleased, disappointed, sad, joyous....whatever the day calls for....but NOT like the guy who shot the Colombian player a few years ago for an accidental 'own goal'.

It IS still just a game....

*rant over* ..go back to your emotional biases and recriminations now.....(what--me? opinionated?...naawwwww)

Subject: RE: BS: Who will win the World Cup?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 17 Jun 02 - 10:40 AM

I'm rooting for Senegal!

Subject: RE: BS: Who will win the World Cup?
From: Gervase
Date: 17 Jun 02 - 06:37 AM

Wait yer turn - some of us in the old country want to be a republic first!

Subject: RE: BS: Who will win the World Cup?
From: Hrothgar
Date: 17 Jun 02 - 06:19 AM

Well, I suppose now Ireland are out, I don't mind if the poor old Poms win.

Then can we be a republic?

Subject: RE: BS: Who will win the World Cup?
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 17 Jun 02 - 04:55 AM

Well, after USA/Mexico, it looks like the traditional wisdom continues to flounder! Anyone for USA-Senegal?

(I know, I know, we're not likely to get past England. Of course, we weren't likely to get past Mexico, either...)

Aloha,
Mark

Subject: RE: BS: Who will win the World Cup?
From: Wolfgang
Date: 17 Jun 02 - 03:11 AM

All my four quarter final predictions before it started went wrong, so I may as well give you my prediction (before it all started) for the final: England - Italy with Italy winning. At this moment this is still possible. (My before the games prediction for Germany was leaving after a quarter final loss against Italy)

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: BS: Who will win the World Cup?
From: Terry K
Date: 16 Jun 02 - 07:40 PM

Col K - it obviously doesn't matter to you, but to several millions of people around the world it is a great source of pleasure. And if it doesn't matter, why open the thread? Is it just that you're trying to show how clever you are to be disinterested? I thought that sort of thing went out in the seventies.

And on a serious note, we will beat Belgium and win the final. But if we have to play Brazil instead, it will be a great game and I simply don't know.

So there you have it!

cheers, Terry

Subject: RE: BS: Who will win the World Cup?
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Jun 02 - 07:32 PM

ColK,

Yes it matters a lot.

If England win (still unlikely I know) there will be a massive mood change throughout the country.

The same will happen with any other country that might win.

Senegal have called a national holiday as a result of their last victory.

Millions of people are happy and feel good.

If that doesn't matter...

Subject: RE: BS: Who will win the World Cup?
From: allanwill
Date: 16 Jun 02 - 05:15 PM

Jim - fair enough.

ColK - Yes.

Allan

Subject: RE: BS: Who will win the World Cup?
From: Col K
Date: 16 Jun 02 - 05:11 PM

Does it matter?

Subject: RE: BS: Who will win the World Cup?
From: GUEST,Jim Jones
Date: 16 Jun 02 - 05:01 PM

Allan,

I didn't forget Germany. I'm just not too impressed with them this year and would fancy Italy if the two meet.

Jim

Subject: RE: BS: Who will win the World Cup?
From: allanwill
Date: 16 Jun 02 - 04:50 PM

Jim Jones

Somehow, I think you've lost track of Germany in your (excellent) summation.

I'm going for an old-fashioned England v Germany final, with England to reign supreme.

Allan (a staunch Republican Australian, but still want England to win).

Subject: RE: BS: Who will win the World Cup?
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Jun 02 - 04:46 PM

Oh dear, Liz

There can't be a Brazil/England final. We (most probably) meet in the next game.

What exactly do you have against this thread? I can't see that it's offensive in any way.

Subject: RE: BS: Who will win the World Cup?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 16 Jun 02 - 04:41 PM

IT'S ONLY A GAME FER CRISSSAKES!!!

(having said that, I fancy Brazil/England final with Brazil pipping us)

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Who will win the World Cup?
From: C-flat
Date: 16 Jun 02 - 03:09 PM

There's been so many "dead-certs" that have gone out that I wouldn't hazard a guess! The real surprise package, for me, have been Senegal. These guys aren't just getting lucky EVERY time! As for England/Brazil, if we defend properly we're in with a good chance. The Brazilians haven't been too hard to score against (working on the "you score two, we'll score three" principal) and England have the best defensive record in the championship so far. This has been the most open world cup that I can remember so it's going to get really exiting. By-the-way, I thought the Irish were unlucky, especially as they looked like edging it in extra time.

Subject: Who will win the World Cup?
From: GUEST,Jim Jones
Date: 16 Jun 02 - 02:55 PM

OK, we're down to twelve teams now, and the quarter finals are:

England v Brazil or Belgium

Germany v Mexico or USA

Spain v South Korea or Italy

Senegal v Japan or Turkey

I think that Mexico should easily beat the USA (sorry US catters) and despite their injuries Italy should dispatch South Korea.

A Germany/Mexico quarter final could go either way, but I think Italy would beat either in the semi.

On the other side of the draw:

I'd back Turkey to beat Japan, but who knows with the home support? Senegal/Turkey could go either way. That one's hard to call.

It would take a huge upset for Belgium to beat Brazil, so I expect a Brazil/England quarter final. Whilst I think it will be tight, head rather than heart suggests Brazil.

Whoever wins that one will almost certainly beat Senegal/Turkey/Japan

So I'm going for an Italy vs. Brazil/England final with Brazil or England to win.

What do you think?

Jim