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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: mousethief Date: 15 Feb 10 - 06:07 PM I heard he never made up that time he was AWOL -- zat true? O..O =o= |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Bobert Date: 15 Feb 10 - 05:13 PM Word on the street is that George was spending his daddy's dough on coke, Rigs... No, not the cola... Was that "whut" fir me, Eb??? If so, I wasn't really sayin' that you said those things but I sometimes take our tandum thinkin' for granted... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Ebbie Date: 15 Feb 10 - 04:30 PM Whut? |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Riginslinger Date: 15 Feb 10 - 04:07 PM Was George Bush spending like a drunken sailor when he was AWOL from the National Guard? |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Bobert Date: 15 Feb 10 - 08:02 AM That's what partisan's do, Eb... Especially those here, many of whom are not musicans at all... I find it interetsing that rather than take on the overall substance of my "hate rant" which dealt with the general state of affairs in the country, Sawz, like his hero Teribus, decided to find one part and attack it as if it was the Holy Grail of the liberal/progressive movement... Yer right, Eb.... Sawz really doesn't car one way or another about kids being hungry... But that is the conditioned repsonse one expects of today's so-called Republicans... They watched George Bush spend like a drunken sailor for 8 years and applauded... The fact that George Bush created quite alot of deficits that would kick in during the next president's term doesn't stop them from their daily pounding away at Obama as a "big spender Democrat"... Yer right, Eb... They just want back in power so they can get back to the deeper end of the money trough... That's what this is about... Iy's not about caring for country, for ones countrymen or for one's countrykids... It's all about being in power... Power, power, power... That is the only goal for folks like Sawz... That have had it for 30 years and they are not ready otr willing to either share it or let the other fraternity have it... It's like a bigass "capture-the-flag" game for them that has nothing to do with the kids going hungry, the highest incarceration rate in the so-called civilized world, broken families, stagnation of wages for the working class... No, Eb, it's about power and how much more wealth they can extract outta a sinking economy and society... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Ebbie Date: 15 Feb 10 - 01:02 AM Boy, Sawzaw, you are on a roll, aren't you. There are very few political leaders who don't put on a spread for guests. Frankly, you don't appear to actually care about hungry children at all. You are merely sniping at everyone and everything. I don't suppose you get the reason why, but I still think you should be ashamed of yourself. |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Sawzaw Date: 15 Feb 10 - 12:56 AM THE WHITE HOUSE Office of the First Lady A DISCUSSION WITH THE FIRST LADY, SOCIAL SECRETARY DESIREE ROGERS, EXECUTIVE CHEF CHRIS COMERFORD, PASTRY CHEF BILL YOSSES AND STUDENTS FROM L'ACADEMIE DE CUISINE White House Kitchen 3:58 P.M. EST MS. ROGERS: We are so excited to have all of you here. And welcome to the White House Kitchen. I don't know that you've ever been in here. And so we're delighted to have all the students here. We're delighted to have the First Lady here on the eve of our inaugural dinner. One of the things that you may not know -- MRS. OBAMA: Our Governors' Ball Dinner. .....You'll see that the chefs have selected many of the vegetables and the meats from across the country, as well as the wines. And so we are really excited about what is going to occur tonight, and particularly excited that the culinary students are here to really be able to share and interface with the staff here. Maybe one day you guys might wind up being a White House Chef. (Laughter.) And so we've got 130 people coming tonight to eat in the State Room. And then the President and Mrs. Obama will invite them to hear the Marine Corps Band. And then of course one of the American legends, a band I really love, Earth Wind and Fire, is going to be here. (Laughter.) So with no further adieu, Mrs. Obama. MRS. OBAMA: Thank you, Desiree. Well, welcome everybody. This is an exciting day for me, for all of us. It's my first official dinner, and I've got with me Cris Comerford, the Executive Chef, as well as Bill Yosses, who is the head of our pastry division. This is so exciting, and I want to just welcome all of the students from L'Academie de Cuisine. You guys are the top students, so we are so excited to have you here. This is going to be a fun day for us. We're going to have good food, we're going to have good music, so we're very excited.... ....And of course the first things we considered are what's seasonal and what is fresh, and of course representing the best of the American spirit. And you have to make sure -- like we tried to look at the northeastern part and see what's the best thing that they could offer at the season. And let me just go through each courses, so every course will be explained well to you. Our first course is Chesapeake crab agnolottis, which are stuffed pasta with sunchoke puree. I heard a question earlier from one of the press. They wanted to know what sunchokes is. A sunchoke is also called Jerusalem artichokes, but they're not really artichokes; they're actually a root that's very reminiscent of potato and –- (inaudible). So it has a very -- ooh, wow, on cue -- (laughter) -- this is Tafari right here, who is one of my assistant chefs, who did just a wonderful plate that we'll be serving tonight. These are three agnolottis that are served with the sunchoke puree, a little basil oil. It's really wonderful. It's very light and airy, and of course it's Mrs. Obama's favorite. So thank you, Tafari. And then next I'm going to talk about our main course, which is the Wagyu beef, or the -- it's actually an American-style Kobe beef. It's actually a cross-breed of the Kobe and the Angus beef, and actually this particular cattle herd is from central Nebraska. In these particular feed lots, we would, like, feed the beef like grass feeding; 90 percent of it's live, and towards the last 10 percent, it's given nice, organic whole grains, and some -- you know, just to enhance -- you know, fattening and marbling of the meat. So as Tommy is putting together a wonderful beef on the side, I'm going to explain to you some of these wonderful carrots. I'm going to take it away from Franky, who's actually a graduate of your school. So we have one of your alumni. (Laughter.) This is a Red Dragon carrots that is growing in a greenhouse in Huron, Ohio. So pretty much, as you can see, what connects all of our menu is really trying to use up things that are indicative of this area, but then at the same time, you know, not forgetting that we could get some things that are good -- let's say, for example, in Nebraska -- just like what the beef represents. So we try to be really very good with using the best of the local products. And as you can see, what the guys are doing right now is just cleaning it off. And later on, this kitchen at about, like 5:00 p.m. -- when this press review is over, it's going to be so busy, trying to put together things. Everything is pretty much prepared and done here. And this is Tommy, my Executive Sous Chef, who put together this wonderful main course. And it's of course the Wagyu beef that's served on a carrot puree. And of course we have some Nantucket sea scallops that are wonderful -- and it's also Mrs. Obama's favorite, so we have to put it in there. MRS. OBAMA: The President loves scallops, too. MS. COMERFORD: He loves scallops, too. We won't forget him, either. MRS. OBAMA: Don't forget about him. (Laughter.) MS. COMERFORD: And then for the salad tonight, I mean, you want something that's really light and very citrusy, to kind of like finish this course. It's not, you know, technically heavy, but it's really kind of like -- thank you, Sam. Sam here has put together a wonderful plate of -- you want to explain what's on this? MR. KASS: Sure. So these are -- we'll start from the bottom up. On the bottom is watermelon radishes that are grown very close to here. They're really big and beautiful. And it's a citrus salad, so we carve our oranges and grapefruit. And then our lettuces are mixed with ice plants, which grow really well through the winter. And we have crystal lettuce, and they're very -- basically the same variety of plant, and with Sicilian pistachios that have been lightly candied, and a honey citrus vinaigrette. So it should be very tasty. MS. COMERFORD: And of course you saw all of the three courses. And of course this course won't mean anything without Bill explaining -- (laughter) -- the dessert. So I'll pass it on to you. MR. YOSSES: Thank you. Thanks. The desserts are in the same philosophy as the main courses, in that we like to use regional specialties, natural and unadulterated, whenever possible. So tonight we're going to be serving a huckleberry cobbler with caramel ice cream. It's one of the First Family's favorites. And here's the huckleberries. They come from Idaho, so I sort of have the West Coast covered. (Laughter.) Idaho and Washington state, Oregon, they all specialize in huckleberries. As you may know, it's a wild product, it's a wild bush that grows on the mountains. They have not been able to cultivate it yet, though they tried. Mother Nature seems to want to keep those for herself. So we are proud to serve this tonight, and happy to have you with us. MRS. OBAMA: And we're going to have ice cream, right? MR. YOSSES: And ice cream, as well. (Laughter.) You've got to have that, yes. -in the meantime, I can bring some of these pieces. For the after-dinner guests, we don't want to forget them, so we brought a little selection of goodies for them, as well. These are maple truffles; New Orleans pralines -- they seem to be requested quite often -- (laughter); a pear layer cake; these are cheesecake lollipops; this is a huckleberry -- a little version of the huckleberry tart for the after-dinner guests; a meringue; and a raspberry tart; and a passion fruit..... "1 in 5 children go hungry" I wonder how many kids you could feed with what that elitist spread cost? |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Sawzaw Date: 15 Feb 10 - 12:08 AM Here we go Bobert. I don't believe this is a right wing blog: President Obama's 2015 Paper: Tackling Domestic Hunger "From 2000 to 2007, the number of individuals living in poverty rose by nearly 6 million, to a total of 37.3 million." [the population rose by 20 million] "According to the Department of Agriculture, in 2006, 430,000 children in the United States experienced hunger." [.06% page 20 of 66 1 in 5 is 20%] "1 in 6 children lives in a household that is food insecure" [at times during the year, the food intake of household members was reduced and their normal eating patterns were disrupted because the household lacked money and other resources for food. page 13 of 66] I hope nobody here thinks I don't care about children going hungry or that I think there are no children going hungry. There are children going hungry and it should be corrected. Is the statement "1 in 5 children go hungry at night" a fact or an exaggeration? Bobert won't say it is true and he won't point it out at the USDA. He just ducks the question. I don't hate Bobert or anybody, I am just questioning his "facts". |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Sawzaw Date: 14 Feb 10 - 09:03 PM "I think the link to a pdf with the reference about food poverty can be found a little way down on this page. US food crisis" It says on blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/01/26/the-u-s-food-crisis-1-in-5-went-hungry-last-year/ Is that a right wing blog or a left wing blog Bobert? It says: "In it comes the striking news that one in five Americans went hungry at some point in 2009." Now we have gone from 1 in 5 children go to bed hungry as per USDA report to 1 in 5 Americans went hungry at some point in 2009" I am guilty of being hungry at some point in 2009. Were you ever hungry in 2009? And it refers to a non USDA report that says: "Of the 436 congressional districts (including the District of Columbia), only 23 had a food hardship rate below ten percent. 311 had a rate 15 percent or higher. In 139 food hardship was reported by one fifth or more of all respondent households." So now it is 31% of all congressional districts has 20% of the households reporting a food hardship. Quite different form the original Bobert fact that 1 in 5 children go to bed hungry" |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Sawzaw Date: 14 Feb 10 - 08:20 PM Your claim is that it appeared in some website page and they attributed it to the USDA. But where is it at in the report? Where does it say anything about 1 in 5 children? You are refusing to answer by trying to pass the responsibility of your claim to someone else. Or if it is my responsibiltiy to prove or disprove it, I say if the numbers in that report are right, it works out to 34 children per household. Now how is that possible? I could be wrong but where? |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Bobert Date: 14 Feb 10 - 07:00 PM I'd say that if you want to argue with anyone concernin' my claim, I've given you a phone number... Call it... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: GUEST,KP Date: 14 Feb 10 - 06:18 PM I think the link to a pdf with the reference about food poverty can be found a little way down on this page. US food crisis Its from the food hardship and action centre, although I don't know who they are, an agency or a charity. |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Sawzaw Date: 14 Feb 10 - 02:36 PM Yes Bobert and I have emailed that organization and asked them: It says on your website at http://www.foodfirst.org/progs/humanrts/ "The U.S.D.A. reports that in 2000, nearly 1 in 5 children (10 million) went hungry. (4) " While reading the referenced USDA report, I can not find that information. Please direct me to it. Keep up the good work. I also sent a request to www.rainbowfund.org Both of these organizations evidently have good intentions and I am not disparaging them. Meanwhile at the "leftie" USDA I find: Household Food Security in the United States, 2003/FANRR-42Looks like Households with food insecurity and children and hunger maxed out in 1998 at 1% and In 2003 it was down to .6% Supposing that .6% of households had 20% of the children in the US: According to the US Census Bureau there were 72,293,812 people in the US under 18 in 2000 so 1 in 5, 20%, would be 14,458,762 million children in 420,000 households = 34 children per household. Ahhhhhhhh, how does that work Bobert? My math could be wrong and if so I would like to know where. |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Bobert Date: 14 Feb 10 - 07:26 AM When I Google in "1 in 5 children hungry" the very first listing is for: http://www.foodfirst.org/progs/humanrts/hungerinamerica.html By the way that site is for an organization called Food First They can be contacted be email at foodfirst@foodfirst.org or at 510 654 4400 Here where I think yer problem is, Sawz... I think that you have Googled so many right wing web sites that your computer has has organized yer information to give you rightie-sites before it gives you anything else... I understand that computers do recognize browsing hstories and when you say that you cannot find a site the uses U.S.D.A. sources it tells me that you are being fed a steady diet of right winged BS from your serce engine... I'd say that yer pudder needs some serious attention becuase it is brainwashing you... Serious business... And this would also explain the endless list of rightie0sites that you cut and paste... Yer computer is just trying to, ahhhhhh, please you... Glad that I Google all kinds of stuff from various political leanings 'cause I'd hate for my cumputer to have the decision power over what it wanted me to know... Obviously you ahve become your computers lacky... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Richard Bridge Date: 14 Feb 10 - 06:30 AM While the "1 in 5 children in the US go to bed hungry every night" may be elusive googling for "1 in 5 children" and "hungry every night" produces many repetitions of the expression, so if it is a fantasy it is a widespread one. I did however find a very interesting paper http://www.bris.ac.uk/poverty/news_files/Inaugural%20Lecture%20Transcript%2018.10.041.pdf and if the position of the USA in some of the tables there does not make the US economic right hang their heads in shame, it really ought to. |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Sawzaw Date: 13 Feb 10 - 11:01 PM Don't see any answer from Bobert. Where is that fact Pop? Can anybody here find it? |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Ebbie Date: 13 Feb 10 - 10:44 PM Good grief. Go to bed. |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Sawzaw Date: 13 Feb 10 - 10:19 PM R*****K: n. Offensive Slang 1. Used as a disparaging term for a member of the white rural laboring class, especially in the southern United States. 2. A white person regarded as having a provincial, conservative, often bigoted attitude. |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Sawzaw Date: 13 Feb 10 - 09:42 PM Ok Bobert, Here is the report. Where is your one 1 in 5 children go to bed hungry "fact" in that report? Where does it contain your revised "1 in 5 Children Hungry" "fact"? |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Bobert Date: 13 Feb 10 - 09:24 PM Give up, Sawz... Find something else... You are embarrassin' yourself here... Serious business... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Sawzaw Date: 13 Feb 10 - 09:19 PM "Youy support so many haters in your threads" Who Bobert? got any names. If I did, did I say I hate somebody? When? Where? Now you are trying to project youe hate speech on me saying I hate somebody. And I agree with you that your name is not Howard Dean. But when a "Progressive" utters a racist statement you pull out that old tattered dogeared "out of context" card and then follow it up with the Joker card. Which Progressive said this?: "You cannot go into a 7-11 or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. Oh, I'm not joking." |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Bobert Date: 13 Feb 10 - 09:01 PM Well, Sawz... When I Googled up "1 in 5 Children Hungry" the firast site was one where the U.S.D.A. was referenced... Maybe you got a right winged chip in yer computer that only allows rightie material to come to you... That would explain alot... Sho nuff would... I mean, yer purdy good with the pudder so I find it astonishing that all you can find is right winged stuff... Maybe that's all you care about??? I donno??? What else??? Ah yes, redneck... Again, you are 100% wrong... Sorry, pal, but it looks like yer in a slump... It referes to white folks who really have no knowledge of the issues, are more into NASCAR, nationalism, sports, tatoos, trucks and are willin' to fight anyone who they think are elitists... I know all about rednecks... Most of the folks I know are rednecks... Hey, I gotta a little redneck in me... I like car racin'... Might of fact, Sawzm I know you will find this incredulous but I used to own and drive a mini-stocker... I like my shine... I like pot... Oh, yeah... Rednecks are into the pot these days... Their daddies just like shine but younger Redneck Nation don't mess with no shine.... It's pot... Yo, Sawz... You ain't no bad guy... I don't hate you... You just ain't all that informed or worldly... I know it's hard fir ya to be lectured about rednecks by an ol' hippie who has lived with black folks and has lived with rednecks and brings a little of both cultures to the discussion but that's the way it is... Yeah, I reckon if I was you I'd be purdy pissed off, too... But, like I said, when it comes to race and subcultures this ol' hillbilly ain't someone you want to mess with 'cause... ....it weren't my idea to do the things I've done or live the way I have lived or experience the thing I have experienced but, no brag intended here, I have lived a most astonishing life that has brought me in close contact with alot of very different sub-cultures... This is one area where I could prolly write a book... Really... LIke I said, I didn't ask for this life... It just happened and it gives me a persoective on racial issues that I think very few people have... I mean, this stuff is internalized... I have palyed music in juke joints in Mississippi where there weren't too many white folks... I can talk the talk and walk the walk... There's somethin' that alot of white folks don't know... I'm not sure what you call it but I call it an African American groove... When I talk with black folks who I have never met there is an instant connection... You don't have a clue what I just said, Sawz because I am guessin' that you have not emersed yourself into the black culture... Then if you were to see me walk into the general store tomorrow morning outside of Stanley, Va. you'd see me interact with the local rednecks in a manner that is equally comfortable... Hey, when I walk into the store in the mornings everyone in there wants to talk shit with me... Hey, I know redneck... I ain't sayin' that this makes me better than anyone else... It's just the way it is... Kinda like one guy plays the offensive line at 300 pounds better than the other guy who plays opposite on the defensive line at 300 pounds... Ain't no rhyme ot reason... Just the way things are... But if you want to continue down this path of me being some kinda hate speech hillbilly 'cause I use the term redneck the way I have know it to be used then have at it... Don't much matter to me... I told you to pick somethin' else... Maybe some policy difference where you might get a few points on the board... You won't get any here 'cause... ...that dog won't hunt... Yer over yer head here... You can pull up as many rightie blogs as you like, Sawz... It won't help you 'cause in this one area I, by defualt, have gotten a PHD... What else??? Oh yeah, a little refresher on hate speech... The term redneck does not refer to white people in general... It refers to a certain segment of white people... A sub-culture... So using the term, while being offensive to you, is ****not**** racist.... It is also not hate speech as defined by law... Your proclamation to the contrary are just that: proclamations... Now before you say that what I say are proclamations keep in mind what I have said here... If you need the details of my history living amongst various subcultures then we can do that... I don't think it will serve any purpose other than to further weaken your case but we can do that... Like I said, find somethin' else to argue over 'cause you will lose this one 100 times outta 100 attempts... No brag, just fact... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Ebbie Date: 13 Feb 10 - 08:34 PM Sawzaw, I don't know about 1 in 5 but if I were you, I'd be ashamed to be that blase about human hunger, whether American or not. Take a look at these stats and don't argue over who deserves food and who does not. I am ashamed of being human. * In the Asian, African and Latin American countries, well over 500 million people are living in what the World Bank has called "absolute poverty" * Every year 15 million children die of hunger * For the price of one missile, a school full of hungry children could eat lunch every day for 5 years * Throughout the 1990's more than 100 million children will die from illness and starvation. Those 100 million deaths could be prevented for the price of ten Stealth bombers, or what the world spends on its military in two days! * The World Health Organization estimates that one-third of the world is well-fed, one-third is under-fed one-third is starving- Since you've entered this site at least 200 people have died of starvation. Over 4 million will die this year. * One in twelve people worldwide is malnourished, including 160 million children under the age of 5. United Nations Food and Agriculture * The Indian subcontinent has nearly half the world's hungry people. Africa and the rest of Asia together have approximately 40%, and the remaining hungry people are found in Latin America and other parts of the world. Hunger in Global Economy * Nearly one in four people, 1.3 billion - a majority of humanity - live on less than $1 per day, while the world's 358 billionaires have assets exceeding the combined annual incomes of countries with 45 percent of the world's people. UNICEF * 3 billion people in the world today struggle to survive on US$2/day. * In 1994 the Urban Institute in Washington DC estimated that one out of 6 elderly people in the U.S. has an inadequate diet. In the U.S. hunger and race are related. In 1991 46% of African-American children were chronically hungry, and 40% of Latino children were chronically hungry compared to 16% of white children. * The infant mortality rate is closely linked to inadequate nutrition among pregnant women. The U.S. ranks 23rd among industrial nations in infant mortality. African-American infants die at nearly twice the rate of white infants. * One out of every eight children under the age of twelve in the U.S. goes to bed hungry every night. * Half of all children under five years of age in South Asia and one third of those in sub-Saharan Africa are malnourished. * In 1997 alone, the lives of at least 300,000 young children were saved by vitamin A supplementation programmes in developing countries. Malnutrition is implicated in more than half of all child deaths worldwide - a proportion unmatched by any infectious disease since the Black Death * About 183 million children weigh less than they should for their age To satisfy the world's sanitation and food requirements would cost only US$13 billion- what the people of the United States and the European Union spend on perfume each year. * The assets of the world's three richest men are more than the combined GNP of all the least developed countries on the planet. * Every 3.6 seconds someone dies of hunger * It is estimated that some 800 million people in the world suffer from hunger and malnutrition, about 100 times as many as those who actually die from it each year. And it only gets worse... |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Sawzaw Date: 13 Feb 10 - 08:17 PM Bobert fact: "The term r*****k does not specifically refere to anyone's race" Real world fact: R*****k is a disparaging term that refers to a person who is stereotypically Caucasian and of lower social-economic status in the United States, particularly referring to those living in rural areas. |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Sawzaw Date: 13 Feb 10 - 08:04 PM Are you projecting all these Bobert facts onto the teabaggers? "I hate it that the Supreme Courth has got 5 memebers with their heads up Rush Limbaugh's ass" That must be painful. Now where is the documentation? Are the stats purported to be from the U.S.D.A correct or is the Obama stats and the Census bureau correct? Why is Obama only interested in the epidemic of childhood obesity? "Don'tcha just *hate* it when ol' hillbilly knows what the heck he's talkin' about???" No Bobert, the hate is your forte. Nowhere have I said I hate anybody or anything. "The claim of 1 in 5 children go to bed hungry is from statistics provided by, ahhhhhh, the leftie U.S.D.A!!!" Where Bobert? When I google "1 in 5 Children Hungry" I see No results found for "1 in 5 Children Hungry" Below that it says "Fact: 1 in 5 children in South Africa go to bed hungry each night." I see nothing like that at the USDA website. do seePrevalences of Food Insecurity and Food Insecurity With Hunger National Conditions and Trends Eighty-nine percent of U.S. households were food secure throughout the entire year 2003 (fig. 1). "Food secure" means that all household members had access at all times to enough food for an active, healthy life. The remaining 12.6 million U.S. households (11.2 percent of all households) were food insecure at some time during the year. That is, they were, at times, uncertain of having, or unable to acquire, enough food for all household members because they had insufficient money and other resources for food. About two-thirds of food-insecure households avoided hunger, in many cases by relying on a few basic foods and reducing variety in their diets. But 3.9 million households (3.5 percent of all U.S. households) were food insecure to the extent that one or more household members were hungry, at least some time during the year, because they couldn't afford enough food. AHHHHHHH it says right there on the USDA website that 3.5 % of households hand one or more members hungry at least some time. 1 in 5 is 20 % so where did your number come from Bobert? |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Bobert Date: 13 Feb 10 - 05:46 PM Thank you, Eb... I reckon that Sawz will come along now and say I hate America... Nah, that is bogus thinkin'... Let me add that to my hate list... I hate it that if you do what Tom Jefferson expected us to do in questioning our governement then the right says you hate America... Amd I hate it that the right is so smug in their self-righteosness that they don't even have a clue what I just said... As for CNN??? No they are very much to the right of center... DemocracyNow, yeah, is right (bad word) about where I am politically... Here's what I would love to see... I'd love to see a debate between and average "leftie" and an average "rightie"... No, not celebs like Amy Goodman and Rush Limbaugh but a couple folks off the street who define themselves as lefties or righties... I think that would be interesting because, even though this isn't going to happen, I'd put my money on the average leftie to take the average rightie to the cleaners... (Oh, Boberdz... That sounds so elistist... You really think that folks on the left are better informed and smarter that their rightie counterparts???) Yo betcha, I do... That's why the Repubs won't put forth any ideas on health care reform... With their dull normal IQ's they just don't have any... If their positions run off the end of the bumper sticker they are lost... But thanks, Eb... But aren't you afriad to be associated with a man filled with so much hatred??? lol... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Ebbie Date: 13 Feb 10 - 03:44 PM Bobert, that is a wonderful summation of what is wrong in our nation. |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: GUEST,David E. Date: 13 Feb 10 - 02:33 PM That's what's interesting about how we view news, life, opinions, everything really. It's all a matter of where we are standing. Bobert uses the term "rightie media outlets" and I'm not even sure what that means. News reporting seems to go from extreme one-sidedness (Democracy Now!) to what is termed the objectiveness of NPR but with most of it (CNN, Reuters, most newspapers) on the "left" side of things. Again, from where I am standing, based on my experiences and values. Sure beats living in Iran anyway. David E. |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Bobert Date: 13 Feb 10 - 12:49 PM I didn't realize that NPR actaually hired people/reseacrhers that did nuthin' but twist information for the sake of politics??? NPR is not radical at all... Or even liberal... The problem with NPR is that in trying to be, ahhhhhhh, objective (what a concept), yes, compared to the rightie media outlets they do seem to be liberal... Heck, I am way left of NPR... I mean, way left!!! B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Greg F. Date: 13 Feb 10 - 11:56 AM Correct! They are VERY unlike NPR. |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: GUEST,David E. Date: 13 Feb 10 - 11:01 AM "I hate it that there are so many right winged corporate sponsored think tanks that *hire* so many righties and actaully *pay them* to do nothin' but sit in front of computers all day long and twist information into a form that it can be easilly digested and reguritated by folks who were never taught to think for themselves..." Unlike NPR... (smiling) David E. |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Bobert Date: 13 Feb 10 - 08:36 AM BTW, Sawz... The claim of 1 in 5 children go to bed hungry is from statistics provided by, ahhhhhh, the leftie U.S.D.A!!! Google "1 in 5 Children Hungry" for deatils... Don'tcha just *hate* it when ol' hillbilly knows what the heck he's talkin' about??? lol... I hate it that there are so many right winged corporate sponsored think tanks that *hire* so many righties and actaully *pay them* to do nothin' but sit in front of computers all day long and twist information into a form that it can be easilly digested and reguritated by folks who were never taught to think for themselves... So add that hate to my list... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Bobert Date: 13 Feb 10 - 07:41 AM Thank you, Richard... Yeah, the term "hate speech" has generally be used in terms of hating someone because of their race, national origin or sexual preference... "Hate laws" address those concerns and not hating specific policies... Yeah, as I pointed out above there are alot of things that I "hate" but none qualify as "hate speech"... Yes, do use the term "redneck"... The term redneck does not specifically refere to anyone's race, national origin of sexual preference... Sawz is very much like these activist Supreme Court justices and thinks he can jsut rewrite law to fit his own biases and prejudices... Most folks here see and understand that... Hey, if yer gonna rewrite the rules then, yeah, one can label anyone anything they want to label them... Hate speech, as defined by the current defination, ain't me... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Richard Bridge Date: 13 Feb 10 - 03:56 AM Very well said Bobert. |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Sawzaw Date: 12 Feb 10 - 11:52 PM "I hate it that Boss Hog has been able to use his vast wealth and ownership of the media to get woking people to vote agsint their best interests" Most of them voted for and elected Obama. Isn't he the one that is in their best interests? |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: mousethief Date: 12 Feb 10 - 11:46 PM My point is that Bobert posted a long post and in response you posted what seemed to be a response to it, but the points in your response didn't respond to anything bobert had said -- it was just spleen-venting. None of them was relevant. As I said. O..O =o= |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Sawzaw Date: 12 Feb 10 - 11:44 PM And your post is relevant to what?? Your point is what?? You don't like what I say or what I think so you attack me personally. I don't mind it a bit because you have that right and you are welcome to it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Sawzaw Date: 12 Feb 10 - 10:45 PM "I hate it that 1 in 5 children go hungry at night" According to the Obama regime: More than a million children regularly go to bed hungry in the US, according to a government report. According to the US Census Bureau there were 73,941,848 people in the US under 18 as of July 2008. Help me with the math Bobert. Whip out the Ol' WGSR and divide 1 million by 74 million. Does it come out to one in 74 children? There were 21,005,852 people under 5 years old so if your statistics featured a cut off point where every person over 5 was fed at night but every one under five did not get fed it would be one in 21 children. Check it out with the WGSR and get back to me. I am in agreement that a million are too many but why does it happen? And then we are told: WASHINGTON - First lady Michelle Obama on Tuesday launched "Let's Move," her biggest-ever campaign, aimed at conquering childhood obesity within a generation. Earlier Tuesday in the Oval Office, President Barack Obama signed a memorandum on childhood obesity. He said it would trigger a 90-day plan that "provides optimal coordination" among federal agencies to fight the epidemic. About one in three U.S. children now is considered obese or overweight, meaning the country leads the developed world in the problem, said Judith Palfrey, president of the American Academy of Pediatrics. U.S. Surgeon General Regina Benjamin delivers remarks about government and community efforts to fight childhood obesity during an event with first lady Michelle Obama and Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius while visiting the YMCA January 28, 2010 in Alexandria, Virginia. Benjamin released a paper on the public health challenge posed by the rise in obesity, particularly among children, and the importance of involving parents, health care providers, schools, and local communities in finding comprehensive solutions. |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: mousethief Date: 12 Feb 10 - 09:32 PM Sawz, your capacity to spew irrelevance is astounding. Stomping teabaggers into the ground? TOtally irrelevant to what Bobert said. Moonshine? Totally irrelevant. Redneck? Totally irrelevant. Smoking dope? Totally irrelevant. Right to bear arms? Totally irrelevant. Allow to have same priviliges as we? Bizarrely irrelevant. Different standard? Stupidly irrelevant. What planet are you from? O..O =o= |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Sawzaw Date: 12 Feb 10 - 09:25 PM "He gave money to the banks" Loaned money to the banks. I say we get some goons and go stomp those teabaggers into the ground. The hateful bastards. I bet those disgusting little r*****k hypocrits Buy moonshine just to screw the government out of the taxes. I bet they smoke dope and brag about it to show how much contempt they have for the law. Don't those hateful people know the right to bear arms is just a mistake written into constitution by gun nuts? Why should we allow them the same privileges and rights that "we" have? They don't deserve it according to the different standard that applies to them. |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Bobert Date: 12 Feb 10 - 04:58 PM First of all, my name ain't Howard Dean, Sawz... Secondly, I'm sure if Howard actually said this it was in jest and has been lifted outta context by who else but Boss Hog hisself... As for KKK hate speech, Sawz??? Even heard of "projecting"... Youy support so many haters in your threads that for you to call me on hate speech is a joke... Yes, there are some things I hate... I hate being cheated... I hate being lied to... I hate having my tax money used for stupid wars... I hate it that the corporations have taken over our government... I hate it that the Repub appointed FCC has allowed media consolidation... I hate it that the Supreme Courth has got 5 memebers with their heads up Rush Limbaugh's ass... I hate it that progressive thinkers don't get any microphone time.... I hate it that the conservative movement is backed to the hilt by corporations... I hate it that the poverty rate in our country is a higher percentage than it wa 30 years ago.... I hate it that 1 in 5 children go hungry at night.... I hate it that those forces who have hated the New Deal have their eye on dismantling Social Sec urity and Medicare... I hate it that the upper 5% has now coraled 80% of the wealth... I hate it that 30% of our nation's wealth goes untaxed because it means less services for th working guy.... I hate it that Boss Hog has been able to use his vast wealth and ownership of the media to get woking people to vote agsint their best interests... I hate it that we don't have publicly financed elections... I hate it that the conservatives cry like babies when they are being called upon to expalin why they think they own everything... I hate it that the corpoarte interest have demonized the word "liberal"... I hate it that we have such a high percentage of rednecks who think it's cooler to be that way than to have gotten an education... Speakin' of eductaion, I hate it that the conservatives have taken over school boards and won't let teachers teachers teach real science... I also hate it that our schools don't teach critical thinking... I hate it that Big Oil is standing in the way of real movement in Green technologies and in fighting the polution that fosil fuel burning creates... I hate it that flat-eart scientists have gotten the microphone and have convinced so many non critical thinking folks that greenhouses gased don't contribute to global warming... I hate it that the current Republican Party is using the fiilibuster like it has never been used in order to shut down the governemnt... I hate it Booby Kennedy, Martin Luth King and John Kennedy were assasinated because it ended the last progressive movement... I hate it that conservatives gloat so much... I hate it that conservatcves get away from callin' thinking people "elitists"... I hate hypocrisy whereever it is found... I hate it that news depeartments are having to cut their staff budgets because that means less real information... I hate it that it'd been 3 deacdes since we had our last caring presdient until Obama... I hate it that a Tea Party gun-nut can show up at a ralley where the president is with an AK-47 strapped to his leg but if I were to have shown up anywhere with a gun where Bush had been speaking I would have been shot... I mean, I could go on... Yeah, if this is hate speech, then quilty as charged... But it ain't no KKK or racist speech... That's the difference between me and the Tea Partiers... I'm not sayin' that they are all racists but I am suggesting that a good portion are... They weren't all that pissed off at the goverenment when Goerge Bush was president... I mean, he spent like a runken sailor... He gave money to the banks... Leads me to wonder why all this anger all of a sudden... Obama ain't no liberal... Ain't no socialist, either... Might of fact, he seems to be more "moderate" than Bush was... Definately more cautious... So that leads me to wonder how people could get so worked up??? Everyhting points to race here, Sawz... That's the way I see it... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: GUEST,David E. Date: 12 Feb 10 - 02:32 PM "I'll take this government over any in the world." I'd second that. David E. |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Sawzaw Date: 12 Feb 10 - 11:48 AM Another KKK/Bobert hate speech. He views the government as the enemy. I'll take this government over any in the world. If there was a better one where people were better off, I would go there. That is if I could pass their immigration laws and of I could swim upstream in the flood of people disparately trying to get into the US Howard Dean: "the only way to get this many bl**ks in a room like this is to hire them as wait staff" That's not condescending is it? Not if you use two standards. |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Bobert Date: 12 Feb 10 - 07:41 AM My personal hell is condescending conservatives, Sawz... They have played their little pathological/mythological "elitist" card so many times that for people who don't view the government as the enemy it's become very irritating... When ya'll conservative wake up and wnat to be part of the solution then maybe we can get somewhere... But to hear alll your hand-wringin' about "elitists" ain't part of any solution... All it is is the corpoarte head-in-the-sand knee jerk reatcion that Boss Hog want to get outta his massive takeover of media and information.... Garbage in- garbage out... Yes, intellegent people who want to see the playing field leveled so that the average Joe won't go bankrupt if his kid get's sick, or lose his house if he loses his job, or get sicker because he can't afford health insurance, or, or, or--- yeah, we feel completely "victimized" by folks who think they are "superior" because they have been mindless ebough to buy every lie that Boss Hog has put in theor little inimaginative minds... The fact of the matter is that progressives have had 3 decades of being ***ruled*** and ***preached to*** by stingy, selfish, unamiaginative, corporate puppets... No one like to be condescneded to and, yeah, we've had enough of ya'll's bullshit and bad policies... No wonder this country can no longer compete... Thde stupid people are running it... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Riginslinger Date: 12 Feb 10 - 07:32 AM Except, America doesn't have any unused land. |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Richard Bridge Date: 11 Feb 10 - 11:45 PM I have an idea. America has so much unused land. Put the people who want no government on reservations, with no government and no government support. It's just the original tea party reversed. From "No taxation without representation" to "No representation without taxation". |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Sawzaw Date: 11 Feb 10 - 11:30 PM There's that hate hate hate creeping back in. I hate them because I claim that they hate the government. Boss Hog did it. Somebody did it to me. I lost. Somebody else won unfairly. It's not my fault. What a loser mentality. "I have lost. I can't win. I will continue to lose all my life. Boo Hoo. Take pity on me and help me out. I can't handle it my self. It's too hard. Life is just too hard." I just watched a Documentary on Colonel Sanders. He started out poorer than dirt. No government took care of him. He worked his way up and now I suppose Bobert would claim he is Boss Hogg cause he made so much money. I feel sorry for you Bobert. You have your own personal hell you live in that makes you bitter so keep at somebody's throat. |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Bobert Date: 11 Feb 10 - 07:44 PM Another thought on the Tea Partiers... In a way they are modern day Yippies except that a scarey percentage of them are mad because a black man is president... But the rest of them are just anti-governemnt... You know, yippies... Yeah, I know this is a stretch but I have really been thinkin' about just who these people are and what they want... Like yippies, they aren't sure what they want but very sure what they don't want (until they need it, of course)... They just hate the governemnt and, hey, after the last year of unprecidented anti-governement ads by the isurance industry, I wonder if they are parroting or they really just flat out hate the governemnt... My problem with these folks is that I know these kinda people... Yeah, they hate the governemnt until they find that the governemnt is only gonna pay "x number" of days for their mama in long term for rahab from that stroke... Then they really hate the governemnt... But let's back up here... These folks say they want out from under the governemnt... Thay say that they don't want a strong national governemnt... But when they need something the first place they turn is to, ahhhhhh... The governemnt that they hate???? But thems is like, ahhhhh, details that haven't been fully worked out by the Tea Partiers... But they sho nuff hate the governemnt... Yippie!!! B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Bobert Date: 11 Feb 10 - 06:44 PM That is the problems, Sawz... Little Hawk probably says it best: it is the $y$tem and the $y$tem is all about keepin' folks at each other's throats... I mean, vien poppin' Tea Party typr anger is what the $y$tem loves to see... That means that the $yStem will keep fleecing everyone... The $y$tem is what I refer to as Boss Hog... He wnats to keep all the peons pissed off at each other... "Ya got keep 'um seperated..." That's the problem I have with the Tea Prtiers... They are so outragious that they are even rilin' up moderates... The gantlet has been laid down by them: Scream at someone or stand aside and let someone who is willin' to scream at someone to ccupy yer space... This is a very dangerous movement that will insure that Boss Hog and the $y$tem will stay hummin' along like a fine tuned BMW and everyone else will be screamin' at each other... No, the tax codes suck... They have been wriiten by Boss Hog to protect Boss Hog.... No, it goes beyond just protection... Seems everytime ya' turn around Boss Hogg is gettin' another socialistic welfare check from the peons... BTW, Richard... I love yer idea... Actually, what is wrong with the country and will bring it down is waht is wrong in any country where the governemnt is owned by the rich... There just ain't alot of money after Boss Hog been to the trough and had his fill left for things like that... But great idea... Anything that wrestles some of the wealth ***back*** to the working class is a good thing for the overall, long term health of the country... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Sawzaw Date: 11 Feb 10 - 06:25 PM Well I be danged. Here I done jumped in Bobert's s**t thinkin he was gonna get all riled up and start lashin' out like Godzilla trashin Tokyo but it seems like he ain't too mad after all. I will defend Bobert's right to say whatever he wants to say and to believe anything he wants to believe. My point is you don't point out how hateful someone you disagree with is by showing hatred toward them. There is such a thing as constructive criticism. Yep, They are off a bit. Who ain't? Who is the perfect party? You just have to sit back and decide for yourself which of their ideas is right and which is wrong with out a lynch mob mentality. You don't need a talk show hate monger to help you decide. I watch Al Jazeera, French news, Russia today, Euro news, Nigerian TV Hongkong TV, Tiawan TV Vietnamese TV etc. which are amazingly unbiased compared to our Cable news chanels. |
